Old birds wanna join the coop???

[Gingerbreadlady1]

Allo ladies! Wondering if there are any other over 35's (apparently the age of fertility suicide, who knew?) ttc for over a year wanting to chat? If so, pour yourself some virtual wine and let the chatting commence!

[AnnieHoo]

LOL Inshock!

Last time I got pregnant i said to DH at 2am "Would you mind hurrying this up, I've got a ferry to catch in 3 hours".

[Inshock73]

LOL Annie! The romance of it all

[Gingerbreadlady1]

Mmmm baileys cheesecake ......

Loving the idea of dunking biscuits in ears lol!

Good luck with scan mampam x that condition sounds really rough, hoping it eases off for you, think my mum had that with us. Suppose we all concentrate so much on bfp we forget its the beginning of it all!

stubborn love your posts, always make me laugh. If you get a bfp ill have a leaf please! X

I've been exercising & tracking calories on fitness pal ap for three weeks, I've bloody put on a pound!!!! Wtf!!!! Feel clothes are bit looser but demoralising. Got 2 wks at amazing luxury all inclusive resort in 2 wks time & I'm already the heaviest I've been. Not good. But still healthy bmi (also keeping eye on it for ivf)

annie that's great about the tests, I would take comfort in that too. You are doing amazingly, you are a very strong bird xx

[spinningirl10]

Ooh Ginger, where are you off to?

I'm also guilty of telling dp to just get on with it....really not romantic!

Stubborn, love the fertility branch, hope it works

Dp and I are away for the weekend, was hoping it would be ov time but we're a few days early. So will dtd for fun

[Tilly73]

Baileys cheesecake made, did lick the spoon mmmm
Hope you have a nice weekend away spinningirl, hope the weather improves for you
and Gingerbread lady you may have gained muscle if you have been excercising if your clothes are looser thats a good sign
How do you do the smiley faces they don't seem to work for me??

[patch77]

Just got appointment through for my ultrasound. The surgery work quick. Tests start next week.

[Gingerbreadlady1]

We're off to cancun spining, can't wait! Also away for a couple of nights next week over ov time so fx.

Hopefully tilly, been fantasising about cheesecake all day!


What shall we call the next thread ladies?

[Gingerbreadlady1]

Excellent patch, that was quick!

[Inshock73]

Old birds quietly nesting and waiting for the BFP's! :)

[Inshock73]

I'm just hoping DP doesn't start to think it's the norm Spinning there's only a small window when just cracking on it with it is acceptable :)

I've been to Cancun Ginger loved it! Very jealous!!

Pleased for you Patch once you know what you're playing with you can work out your next moves.

Tilly to get a smiley click on the colon and then the bracket, a sad face is colon and the other bracket, I don't know how to get a laughing face or a wink they never work for me.

[Gingerbreadlady1]

There's a list at bottom page of all emoticons, that's what I use.

Well today I have been researching ivf clinics in Europe, bought b6 and ordered progesterone cream to see if that helps with lp. Also randomly got called by gp with clomid prescription, double dose. Called fc, they advise doubling, I have only 1 month left on clomid, seem to be ov on current dose (7dpo prog of 28 & 29) and pretty much no periods (it thins the lining). Also will be on hol on day 12 & they'd want to scan me. Really not convinced they know what they're doing....

Not sure how quietly we're nesting in shock

[AnnieHoo]

Oo Ginger that's exciting. The 100mg might be the boost you need. Combined with luxury hot adult only holiday..... Woop woop lookin good!

Is this your last round? What is the next step if round 4 doesn't work?

I've been researching IVF today too at GCRM or Spire Edinburgh. I booked an initial consultation in a few weeks time. Plan to give Clomid one more try then go for ivf.

[Gingerbreadlady1]

I think they want to try other ov inducing drugs, can't remember, metformin maybe? Problem with the 100mg is I will be on hol on day 12 so they can't scan me annie. Plus if 50mg is making me ov what's the point? (on cycle 5 currently). Kinda had enough so my plan is same as you, finish clomid (will be 6 cycles total) then maybe ivf, not sure. Allegedly I've been referred to gri so may see what happens there first. I'm getting impatient! Feel like something else must be wrong with so long & no bfp....

Where you going for open day? I'm thinking of booking June open day at hope(nuffield) and gcrm .

[AnnieHoo]

I'm going to Spire Murrayfield Hospital for an initial consultation meeting with the consultant there costs £195 but need to speak to someone. I also looked at Glasgow Centre for Reproductive Medicine which has a good reputation and same consultant works at GRI. I have family in Edin I could stay with so that's why I chose there. There is a 6-9 month waiting list if I got referred for IVF on NHS but my 41st birthday is in 2 weeks so my instincts are to go private.

The 100mg did the trick for me and I had no monitoring. It's scary though and you might go a bit radge in Mexico. Difficult one

[Gingerbreadlady1]

Lol! I'm planning to go radge in Mexico anyhow!!!! I've to call next week, the receptionist is gonna talk to dr about it all. Wish I could speak to a bloody dr rather than receptionist. Be very keen to hear how it goes for you, think that's a brilliant plan annie .

[Fankletastic]

Ooh...going radge in cancun Ginger - sounds quite delightful! Ya wee radge! (Am reading Skagboys by Irvine Welsh ATM so can't resist a bit of scots banter).

Can't remember who said earlier in the week about wanting to plan a big holiday to Asia..? Well anyway, fwiw I'd say just go for it. We did it over Christmas and I don't regret it for a minute. We did a 3 week tour from Singapore through Malaysia and into Thailand. We planned it over Christmas and new year because I was dreading another festive season with family and still no good news to share. As much as I love our niece and nephew I was worried I would crack under the sadness. The trip was the perfect tonic- full on, adventurous backpacking, making friends with other travellers, getting drunk on beaches, trekking in mountains, eating and drinking whatever I wanted and experiencing NYE in Bangkok.

DO IT NOW WHILE YOU HAVE THE CHANCE LADIES!!!

[spinningirl10]

I've just eaten a huge piece of cheesecake in Patisserie Valerie, feel sick now!!

Fankle that trip sounds amazing!! Dp and I would love to do that! We did USA Roadtrip on a big motorbike last year which was amazing! Had such fun and came home to a bfp which I sadly mc, we joked about calling it Vegas which is where it would have been conceived

[Tilly73]

We have just finished off the cheesecake!!
You all seem to be having tests done, I haven't even thought about it yet, I suppose the fact that I got pregnant was a good sign. Not sure I could handle the results if they were bad

[AnnieHoo]

Oh god I want cheesecake now! Starving after steamed fish and broccoli!!

Tilly how are you recovering from mmc? I've had all these tests because it was my 2nd mc in 18 months so my v v kind consultant is doing chromosome test for both of us and testing me for thrombophilia, lupus anticoagulant and anticardiolipin. But I know it's just happening because my eggs are 40 years old!

[Tilly73]

I'm physically feeling ok Annie, but have good days and bad days. Little things just seem to set me off. My work colleagues sent me flowers today which made me tearful again.
I did a pregnancy test and it was negative (even though they asked me to wait 3 weeks), but I'm still bleeding!!
I feel the same way about my eggs, even though my DH always tries to reassure me, although others aren't as sensitive and just mention it could be my age!!
I'd said to my DH we would try and if it happened it happened, but then I started getting obsessive about it, and can't believe how dissapointed I felt every time AF came, I feel like I have let him down, esp after this

[AnnieHoo]

I'm the same. I'm finding it a bit hard to get out there and face the world again. We're bound to be a bit shaky but time is healing. At least we know that everything is functioning ok and it's just a case of waiting for a good egg

[fireflyz]

Can I join? Feeling down, just got AF, on month 5 of 'proper' ttc #2 but have actually been off pill for a year, just I delayed things owing to lack of confidence about dealing with being pg and having a active DC#1. Then we both had some sudden family bereavements which meant we just weren't in the right frame of mind. Now I am feeling a bit desperate! I am 39 in October and just hear TICK TOCK constantly! Wish I had got on with it earlier! Even though I know I am lucky as I have one child already and having just the one to focus on means we are very close & I wouldn't change that. But I always imagined having more then one child, so we are now going for it! And it is just making me feel so fed up as we have been trying to do it at the right time each month ie in the middle! It's an effort to feel like doing it sometimes but we are trying to get to bed earlier! I know we haven't been ttc that long really but we were so lucky with dc1, just 2 months! That was about 5 years ago. And now I feel panicked that it's taking longer because I am just too old. And my cycle seems to be 2 days shorter ie 26 instead of 28..... what does that mean? I suppose the hardest thing is feeling like I might not have the choice any more. Sorry for sounding so blue :(
Any words of comfort much appreciated!

[AnnieHoo]

Hi fireflyz

I feel your pain! All I can say is keep informed, get tests done at GP and don't stop believing! The ladies here are going through it too and you'll find great support here xxx

[fireflyz]

Thank you AnnieHoo. Was v kind of you to reply, I was feeling really low last night & saw your reply just before going to bed, cheered me up to read something kind & encouraging.
I have just added up dates again & realised cycle for last 3 months has been 25 days! Hmmmm... Seems like my adding skills are in question too! Gotta laugh really.
I will do some research into maybe supplements that can help? I am already taking seven seas frolic acid vitamin blend.
And I should go see a GP. It would be useful to know if I am even ovulating. One GP I saw a while ago (about something unrelated) said it was best just to try DTD as much as possible in the middle of the cycle, not to get too obsessed on charts and opks etc. So far I haven't tried doing anything except planning a bit with the mumsnet Ovulation calculator. Just don't want to look back and wish I had done more I suppose. So any tips you folks out there have, please share.
Thank you x

[AnnieHoo]

Fireflyz

I was told to "keep trying" by GP a year ago and wish I'd changed surgeries now! You should tell them about your cycle shortening and ask for blood tests to check that you're ovulating ok. No harm in asking!

I have had 2 pregnancies in last 2 years at 39 and 40. Both ended in mc but on the positive side I did get pregnant... The best things I used were the Fertility Friend app or website to record your cycle and I forked out on a clear blue fertility monitor. I also bought a ton of cheap ovulation sticks off amazon for 5 pounds a bag for 100. This way I had a bit of control knowing when I was at peak fertility. I temped too which is the only way to confirm you have ovulated. I probably sound totally bonkers!!! But the stats are not great at 40 so i feel I have to do everything I can now to know I tried my best. It's different for everyone - I just have to do these things to keep sane