Old birds wanna join the coop???

[Gingerbreadlady1]

Allo ladies! Wondering if there are any other over 35's (apparently the age of fertility suicide, who knew?) ttc for over a year wanting to chat? If so, pour yourself some virtual wine and let the chatting commence!

There seems to be some level of shame and/or embarrassment if you struggle ttc. I think it's just another pressure society puts on women to be perfect. We're all led to believe having babies is the most natural thing for a woman so if it doesn't happen easily there's a sense of failure about it so women don't talk about it which means other women ttc feel they're the only one struggling so they don't talk about it and so it goes on...

Stubborn was your 21 day test 7 days before AF?

Well, it was on day 18, as my cycle is normally 26 days (day 19 was a Saturday). And then AF turned up on day 24 , so that makes it 6 days before...

The doctor said we'll repeat the test this month.

Stubborn, my understanding is that 30 and above is enough to show you OVd (as opposed to just being good) and that's all they need to know. When I had mine done, mine had to be done a day early because it was the weekend (I had to have it done on the Friday when 7 days post OV for me would have been the Saturday or Sunday) and mine showed the same level as yours, because mine wouldn't yet have peaked. So they weren't in any doubt that I had OVd, especially when you combined it with my temperature readings.

So please try not to worry. Your progesterone wouldn't have been as high as that if you hadn't OVd. It would be down in much lower figures.

You need to do it from the OV date (the 7 days) as opposed to 7 days prior to your AF. Because the LP can be different. So how many DPO were you when they did the test, that's the important bit. If you were only 6DPO, that would fully explain why you hadn't yet reached 30.

That is useful information, thanks KE. That's pretty much what the doctor said, too.....Counting back on my fingers, I suspect I was 6DPO, but that's just a guess, because I haven't been weeing on sticks, and I've only just started temping this cycle...

Well if you were, that makes perfect sense.

Good luck with the temping!! With DD that's how I found out I was PG, but I just can't do it this time. DH gets up for work at 4.30am and sometimes he wakes me and sometimes he doesn't. I did it for a few months but just found that I couldn't be consistent with readings. I would wake up in the night and look at the clock and then get woken a couple of hours later by DH so that was that morning's reading messed up!! I had more 'not quite accurate' readings than accurate ones!!

I managed to get a rough pattern from it, which is when I realized I was definitely OVing every month (I got a very obvious temperature dip on OV day followed but a big hike the day after) but I also found that every month I would get a dip on about 9DPO and the spotting would start. I put 2 and 2 together, went to the GP who spoke to the Fertility specialist who agreed that I should try Progesterone pessaries to stop the spotting. I tried them for 3 months (they should work instantly if it's progesterone related) and didn't make any difference.

I've had a smear and loads of the other swabs plus all the tests so they have no idea as to why I start spotting so early... Might start another thread about it actually and see if anyone else has experienced it.

Good morning!

How is everybody today?

I'm symptom spotting like crazy, but I should really wait another 5 days to test. I have a bunch of the cheap tests from amazon in the draw tempting me...

kegirl I used to have a history of mid cycle spotting even when on the pill. I was prescribed clomid in the end which helped me. X

Good luck Irma xx

I've started properly bleeding now so although it's upsetting at least my body is now trying to get back to normal.

I just hope it doesn't muck my cycles up once this has finished. Can't do anything for three months sadly though.

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Sorry Tranquility, but don't worry about your cycles, the three months where you can't do anything will no doubt help to regulate them again.

As for Clomid, my consultant said that it wasn't worth trying it as I was OVing regularly every month, it would potentially do more harm than good. But I'm going to try Agnus Castus as you recommended, looks like people have good results with it. What's the worst that will happen, I won't get PG. No change there then... xx

Good luck for this month Irma.

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Hi everyone!

Welcome to the newbies!

irma your creepy comment made me laugh, good luck in the 2ww.

Hi to karma in Sweden.

mampam you lurking? How you getting on? How many wks are you now?

annie so glad you joined us, the girls (mean old birds) are an amazing support. You sound like you're doing so well, really amazing. And I highly approve of you hitting the (champagne) bottle.

kegirl I agree with everyone, don't put your life on hold, that way madness, and misery, lies......

stubborn kegirl is correct, those levels indicate ov so all good

sebs how you getting on, hope you're ok?

tranquility I'm giving you a virtual hug x

Who's poa stick soon? Need another bfp!

I'm poas for ov does that count Ginger? :)

As long as somebody is peeing on something for some reason

Me too, ov due sun, are we cycle buddies again?

Yep! :) I'm having another acupuncture session tomorrow, apparently day 13 is a good day to have needles stuck in you.

Probably not a sentence you thought you'd be saying today.....is it a fertility specialist your seeing or general Acupuncturist?

Fertility specialist, they've got a good track record. I know it may not work but I'm trying everything :)

Oops posted too soon!

Tomorrow will be my fourth session, last month cycle was 28 days instead of usual 27 so luteal increased from 11/12 to 12/13. Had acupuncture on cd1 which apparently encourages cleansing and cd13 is to boost OV. If I'm destined to be childless at least I'll be able to say I tried everything :)

I've just received a response from the fertility place I emailed and ugh, it's just such a bloody business isn't it. Really makes me feel like is rather leave the whole thing to fate.

Resist Irma resist! :)

Tranquility I'm joining in with Ginger on a group hug. At least your body is getting back to normal which is a sign of good health.

Sebs what did the fertility clinic have to say?

Ooooo! Wonder what that was about

I was just thinking that :) wonder if it was a troll!

Must have been, weird. Strangely curious as to what they were sayin! What are these trolls all about....never mind! I'm curious about reflexology, went once last month, just to a general spa & my lp went from 10 to 13 days. Not booked in to go again. Maybe see if I can squeeze in a visit....

Oh, I read the deleted message. It was just stupid, and possibly offensive if someone was feeling sensitive. A teenager, I guess. I don't want to repeat it, as wouldn't that be feeding the troll?

Good point, lets not feed the (nasty arse) troll.