If TTC # 2 has turned you into a nut job this thread is for you! (Part 4)

[sebsmummy1]

Hey!! We have had lots of graduates from Part 3, so let's get on the TTC bus part 4 and make this place a ghost town.

Destination Pregnancy, choooo choooooo

Sebs not depressing at all, just totally right! I think it's information overload these days, was chatting to my mum yesterday and she was pregnant in the days before home tests existed so no one ever really knew much early on and there was therefore less time to stress, I like the sound of that! Roll on 12 wks, it can't come soon enough - but then I'll just find something else to worry about

As if to prove a point I ordered some hpt ICs to chart my hcg level on it's way down so I know when I'm no longer showing a positive. Well the test line is as dark as the control line even though I miscarried on Saturday. It will stay this way for potentially 4-6 weeks.

I think once you get a positive move away from the tests as they really cannot tell you much more.

Staying away from sticks is a good idea. I'm so tempted by digi but don't want to as if only says 1 -2 weeks will be stressing!! I have just exhibited excellent restraint by going to superdrug and not buying any tests!!

Cough medicine you take the recommended dose 3 times a day during fertile period. You need some cm already for it to work. Use the red robutisson one as it's the guanefera or whatever that is the magic ingredient

Sebs had the bleeding stopped now?

No, it's at light period level, marking a pad every 2 hours.

Good tip re cough medicine.

Fed up if the world has any justice left in it you deserve to sail through this pregnancy without any problems xxxx

I'm so sorry Sebs, just seen the news :( I echo what everyone else has said though. You sound very strong, and certainly have the right attitude. I hope I will be as strong if the worst happens.

Thanks Geta for what you said, made me quite emotional. Hope I don't change your mind with what I am about to say as it may show I'm not as strong as you think.

So I've spent most of this week an anxious wreck, managed to get an appt for the GP yesterday who then referred me to EPU and I got an appt this morning. I'm only 4 weeks 1day so wasn't expecting much, and unsurprising nothing seen on the scan except an area of blood (which they said MAY be from implantation, and some free fluid which MAY be from ovulation, and a thickened uterus. So fairly neutral really. Today's hcg test came back at 619 which apparently is really good for how far I am... And I do another test on Sunday to check if the levels are rising as they should.... So again all sounding fairly positive... Except ever since I woke up this morning I've had terrible abdominal pain.. Like bad indigestion.. Just like when I had my ectopic... It's totally freaked me out and to be honest I'm pretty sure this one is going to end badly. I just keep thinking about that 'free fluid'in the uterus now, and the blood, and wondering if I'm already rupturing. The pain is just constant and it's hard for me to believe it is anything else after what happened last time. Anyway, just thought I'd keep you updated.. Keep your fingers crossed for me, I'm really hoping for a miracle.xxx

Oh Punky I can hear the fear in your words. Can totally understand how worried you must feel, particularly since your last experience.

When is your next scan and are they going to do more bloods to check the hcg is rising as you would expect?

Thinking of you and praying you get the reassuring news soon that everything is as it should be xxx

I've just been plunged back into a dark place by someone who posted that they thought I was still retaining the pregnancy sac and I hadn't actually miscarried yet. I think they could be right and I'm scared all over again

punky you poor thing. It would take a super human to remain strong at what you are going through. Where is the pain? Centred? Did they say where the free flui was, just in pelvis? Apparently blood in pouch of Douglas (or whatever they go on about is pretty common) as is fluid from ov ( I had that at my scans for cysts). I almost this it's worse scan ing you that early as at 4 weeks I didn't think you would see anything... And 6 weeks is best for a location scan. I'm thinking of you and can imagine how worried you are and how you feel, I really can.

sebs hmmm I don't know - maybe, partic as you had no cramping. But could also mean there is still a baby. What a head fuck though. Hang on til Monday, not long now but will get you those answers you so need.

I don't know about me. The world isn't fair so I could just as easily have another mc. I've got no blood which is my personal panic but also this is the first preg I didn't have implantation cramps so now worried about that and it will be another blighted ovum or whatever. I wish I was still naive and carefree pregnant. I think I am 4 plus 3 but not sure. Told my mum today when she had got me a particularly strong coffee that I refused. She's v happy for me but naturally more cautious this time - in nov she was ridiculously blasé about the bleeding.

Right better get myself pizza stuffed self off to bed.... Night and big (non MN) hugs for you sebs and punky tonight xxxx

Thanks Sebs and Fedup, I'm having another hcg test tomorrow when if the pain is still there I am going to push for... Something!! They haven't booked another scan, I think it is dependent on the hcg, but last time it rise normally so I'm really just praying for a good scan ASAP as that is the only thing that can put my mind at rest.

The free fluid was in the pelvis I think. The pain is central, as it was last time. Just like bad indigestion. It is slightly less this morning but last time was also the same. Roll on the next scan I say!

Thinking of you Punky, hoping you get reassurance really soon xx

Feeling ok today. Cervix is now high and closed, bleeding minimal, hpt test showing fainter. I still think it's weird that I had no cramping and didn't see anything that resembled the sac, but a week today I was passing huge amount of mucus and clots so I wonder if it happened then and I just didn't realise. Will see what the sonographer says tomorrow. Who would have thought id be relieved to be told my uterus was clear and a pregnancy test was negative. Crazy!!

It is weird when you are desperado for a neg hpt. I remember the first one I did a week after my erpc was the strongest bfp ever. It was horrible but that was 12 weeks of raging hormones all built up so I'm sure yours will go down quicker sebs (I hope) although I guess it's been a week already.

So... On non ttc or pregnancy news I PASSED! I can officially teach now. So relieved and means I can finally have a night off. Normally I would have a few drinks to celebrate but today it's decaf tea

Hurray! Congratulations Fedup, that is amazing, and on top of your BFP, hopefully everything will start going your way now! Congratulations
Maybe some chocolate to celebrate?
Good advice re pelvic floor muscles, I really must make a concerted effort to do them if I don't want to be wearing incontinence pads by the time I'm 30!
Sebs that was interesting what you said about it not being another baby that you need to fill the void, what a great idea to get some volunteering under your belt and focus just on you for a bit, hopefully it will be just what you need to get pregnant!! Also your advice/summary made me chuckle, you are so right, in fact I am going to save those words somewhere and refer back to them when I start worrying about whether I've drunk too much coffee that day!!
Cake stop POASing! Good luck for your appt on monday, and I hope that everything turns out just fine for you. And please keep lurking! Also I think I'm starting to agree that maybe back to basics is better. It's great that we have the advancements we do in modern medicine today, but I think sometimes it can be worse to know too much. The more we know that can affect/alter getting pregnant and the more we know that can go wrong, the more there is for us to worry about and the worse it can be. I think the old days must have been alot more clearcut - you wait for your period to be late, get it confirmed by the doctor then wait patiently and hopefully until that first scan!! None of this pissing in tealight holders and tracking your temperature!
Punky I 'm afraid I don't have the knowledge that the others do, but I am keeping everything crossed for you, and hope you reach 12 weeks with no hiccups, that goes for you too Fedup, I am hoping and praying it all goes well for the ladies on here now, you have all coped admirably with what has been thrown at you and deserve for 2014 to be an easy and happy year!
In my corner, I finally got a smiley on an opk today, CD16 so a bit later in my cycle than usual, so just hoping AF makes a late appearance so my LP isn't too ridiculously short. (obviously a no show would be even better! ) Think I might go ahead and ring the Drs anyway on monday and get the ball rolling...

Thank you ginger
Well I started doing all this as I was unhappy in my job and was waiting to have another baby so could leave once on mat leave so I decided I was leaving anyway in the summer and felt so much better immediately. IF this pregnancy goes the distance I will prob stick it out til mat leave but If I lose it and leaving in the summer as planned.

I read a great weblink (a bit American but v good) about miscarriage after you start to question what you did and didn't do to cause it - is very good. Will track it down. Basically says nothing you did caused it, it's just fertilised egg wasn't right and not that you drank coffee!

I read it over a few times when feeling down about my mc and also sent to friends who were questionning everything they did when they mc.

I know. My mum was like - you know before your period is due?! She said with me she went to the doctors as she was having heart fluttering and thought she was really ill and the doctor was immediately -noooo, you are pregnant!! But knowing as early as we do now and almost too much about it all medically can be more of a head fuck.

Yay for smiley face!! Get on it!

And ps no harm to go to doctors... And get ball rolling but you will prob get preggers this month as a result!

Fantastic news fedup, so pleased how things have turned around and we've got a lovely succession of positive news events now. Just goes to show if we could glimpse into a crystal ball we would worry less (hopefully) about what was coming up for us as things have a way of coming good in the end

My birthday is end of this week. We normally go away but I had an inkling that that wouldn't be a good idea this time so we are having a Staycation, and thank god we are really as I'm not going to know till tomorrow whether I have really come to the end of this mc. I've still got this nagging doubt about whether I'm retaining tissue. I've got no cramping and the lightest of spotting but I really need closure on it.

Does this thread run out at 25 pages? I can't remember.

oh sebs, not too long to go to know if this is over. hope you have some birthday treats planned.

gingerbread, CD16 for a positive opk sounds way earlier than I have ever had. What's the general point in the cycle for OVing?

My cycles recently have only been 24 days Zippy, which gives me a pretty crap LP of 8 days! How long are your cycles on average?
What time is your scan tomorrow Sebs? Hope all is ok and it will be straightforward news. I think the thread runs out at 1000 messages, so we've a while to go yet! Where are you going on your Staycation?
I really hope it works like that fedup, if I make an appt - it will be a waste of time!! That article sounds good, I think we all know really there is nothing we can do to make a difference, (aside from extreme heavy drinking and smoking maybe!) But it's so easy to blame yourself isn't it and try to find reason with everything that happens. It really is all just a guessing game and luck of the draw, however unfair that seems sometimes . We're still allowed to have a moan though!
I like the sound of your plan Fedup to leave in the summer, or stick it out for mat leave.I too am unhappy in my job so have been waiting to finish on mat leave, but I think if I'm still not pg by September I will go back and retrain, so something to aim for anyway.
Hope everyone is having a nice Sunday!

Oooops we just did the sex lol . Totally unplanned but actually it was strangely healing mentally so all good.

It's at 10.30am xx

ah that makes me feel better gingerbread. For me, AF has appeared on day 27 every month for the past 20 years, pretty much, though since stopping BFing and having blood tests my cycles inexplicably became longer by a few days as did AF itself. The good news is the last two cycles AF has arrived on day 29, and this time day 28, so getting back to normal. also AF has gone back to six days rather than lasting almost two weeks. So combined with my hormone levels going back to normal, and apparently having excellent egg reserve and FSH for being 35, things should be looking better. This is of course of limited comfort on less rational days!

But my luteal phase still seems pretty short, I got the peak fertility sign on the Saturday then AF arrived on the Monday of the week after. That's too short isn't it?

sebs, this is impressive on all levels! :)

Ah zippy that all sounds like brilliant results. Looks like things are going in the right direction for you and you should get your bfp soon! Two weeks for AF isn't nice, hope that keeps shortening for you. At least for me it only lasts 4 maybe 5 days, and only heavy for 2. My cycles were about 27/28 days before DD though I wasn't really counting as she was conceived month 2. Then after I stopped bf (well over a year ago) they were 26/27 days. I don't know when I ovulated though, about 4 months ago they became more irregular and past two cycles have been 24 days, with ov on cd 15 or 16.
Your lp sounds just like mine, I got peak yesterday and will expect AF a week on monday! From reading these threads on mn I get the impression the 'correct' length of a lp is a matter of opinion, I've heard some Drs dismiss it all as rubbish, others don't. I do think 8 days is too short though, so I will have to get some advice on what to do about that.
Sebs excellent news! So glad you are feeling positive and ok, you are an inspiration for me

Sebs that is impressive!

No, the thread lasts til 1000 posts then not quite sure what happens... Which it explodes or what!

Ha ha, I don't think I've ever been impressive before

You do realise we've turned this thread into a right cliquefest. We are going to end up with it just being us lot talking about our day and jobs and half of us won't even be TTC anymore lol

Is that a hint for me to sod off sebs??!!

I've been on this thread for ages now and it's def seen some changing faces... And names!

punky hope hcg test take 2 goes well x

PMSL nooooooooo! I like it that we just chatter in here, makes me happy

HCG test went well today. Results came back within 3 hours (apparently I am a high risk./urgent case.. not sure whether that is a good or bad thing, but suppose it is good they are closely monitoring!) Anyway, from 619 on Friday it was 1350(ish) today so more than doubled. I'm starting to get hopeful now which is scary in itself as I really don't want to start believing it will be ok if it turns out not to be. Anyway, another scan on Tuesday morning when I 'should' have a hcg of around 2600.. so should see something on the scan.. No pain today which is good too.

Massive congrats FedUp on passing! Great to have some good news that wasn't tinted by fear of MC, etc.

Sebs I hope you get some closure soon. Know what you mean about unplanned sex.. so much better than scheduled 'bd'.

I think you are both right about continuing to make plans in life rather than putting everything on hold ttc.. It puts so much pressure on everything.

Have to go, DS appears to want dinner even though we had a very late lunch!
xxx

That's great news punky! And I think it's a good thing you are high risk as you get seen too and looked after. Obviously the circumstances that got you there aren't great but at least they are doing all the right things to check!

My scan is on 18th and v scared. Not even known I've been pregnant for a week and it feels like an eternity.

Just tried my first becks blue... It's rather nice! Oddly am craving beer. Thought of wine is yuk but hand me a beer please.