The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

[happylass]

Here we go again.....

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Grr, sorry about AF Pip, hope they can fit you in for this next one!

Well done on your book RP, that's some achievement just writing a book in my eyes! Have you tried decaf coffee? I LOVE the smell and taste of a good coffee but unfortunately if I have even a sip of normal coffee I feel all light headed and shaky, so have to stick to the decaf - which I suppose is a good thing for me at the moment!

Hi Aqua, could the Dr not put you on clomid first for a bit if you feel IVF is too much at the moment, or IUI or something, or would those not work? Do you know what your issues are yet? (Noisy me ) My BMI fluctuates around 19/20, and is luckly 20 on my notes so no one has said anything, but my Dr did say (as she was poking around) when she was doing an internal exam how easy it was as she could feel pretty much everything from the outside. I was a bit that's a bit freaky.

Charming I think hot baths are only unadvised for the men if their SA isn't great. I think hot baths/saunas used to be associated with miscarriages but think research has since ruled it out. Hope you get the invoice sorted - I know how you feel, spoke to an unhelpful receptionist who was trying to get me to cancel my IVF consultation appointment on 27 Dec because she doubted I would get my scan done in time (which is done at a different hospital, so how should she know!) and have since spoken to someone else who said my scan is booked for the 4th, so even though it was just a bad experience with one receptionist I was not exactly filled with confidence about this clinic!

Just poking my head in again. I've been awol for a few weeks. I took November as a month off TTC, although we did dtd a few times anyway. No miracle 'I'm not trying' diffment though; just a very, very short cycle - 23 days .

I've also been the victim of incompetent staff. I'm seeing the FC next week and my GP told me to pick up test results before the appointment so I phoned at the beginning of the week to check that was ok as I can only easily get there one night a week when it is open late and receptionist said I could come any time so I went last night. The girl on reception last night said she couldn't give them to me and I had to speak with the gp first. gp then rings today asking what I needed a call for so I explained and all she was was 'that's fine I'll print them for you to collect from reception'. I can't understand why the first woman didn't arrange this or why the second woman couldn't have just given them to me. I'm now going to struggle to get them before the appointment as they aren't open late again until the day after my appointment. Grr

Anyway, sorry for returning with a rant .... I hope everyone is having a good Friday.

pip fx for you this time

aqua hello

Kuma I'd be fuming. Could they not mail them to you, since you did as requested but the miscommunication was on their end?

RP very exciting about your book; what an awesome accomplishment!

Charming how'd the invoice situation turn out?

pip yay on AF showing up (never thought I'd type that) and fx they can do your second round this month!!

Ho-hum here. DH & I have arranged for all the blood tests barring 2 to be done through our GPs. 2 for me will have to be done at the private FC at or after our initial consultation in a couple of weeks. Still sore from the hysteroscopy but no longer bleeding, hurrah. Getting fed up with all of it and wish TTC weren't such a huge part of our lives. Really gutted by how easy it is for some, while the rest of us struggle.

Kuma that is incredibly annoying. somehow the 'small stuff' actually gets on your tits more than the big issues, I find!

Birdy I think I may have to cut down on the coffee in the New Year if not pg by then. I am at the sort of stage where I could inject it neat through my eyeballs and wouldn't notice. So it's probably time to get a bit healthier.....

It's just been a rough few months at work and somehow, coffee and a biscuit is the thing that enables you to stay that extra hour or come in at the weekend or whatever. I always lose weight when work gets easier....... think I am odd though!

Right ILs over tonight so need to go and tidy kitchen so they won't judge me too much

Spent 6 hours helping a mate move house today so I'm not going for a run tonight I'm off for a nap on the sofa in front of the fire!
CD14 but keep forgetting to poas!! Not that I've ever had O before cd19 at the very earliest even on the last clomid cycle, but the sticks are there waiting I just keep forgetting - too much time off while I was waiting for AF to arrive post mc!! I'm out of practice! DP said last night (as I explained that he'd have to try and perform despite us getting in from the pub at midnight and him drinking 3 pints) that we're 'not as organised this month'. I think he meant that I wasn't giving him daily updates about my cycle day and whether he was needed or not that evening... Just not feeling the ttc love this month, too exhausted from so much other stuff going on. Means I'm not obsessing though, which is nice .

Happy Friday peeps!

Any news from clinic pip?

Sorry to see you return with a rant kuma please stay and be less ranty lol. Grrrrr on your behalf though!

sid I know how you feel, this week with the ivf approaching I am feeling very sad that it hasn't happened naturally and annoyed that for some it is so easy grrrrrrrrrr

barking not obsessing is nice!

It's weird, now that we are heading towards ivf I feel less pressure, knowing that it's highly unlikely to happen naturally means no obsessing about DTD at certain times!

Apologies in advance but I am overexcited now I've seem this...

lol @ bunny - I've just been playing the Dr Who Google game- its ace,lol Fingers crossed for Pip & Sid
AF has arrived so I'm out this cycle, - guess we'll be making our anniversary Dr's appointment.
Our acu/GL diet guru lady has told us to come off the caffeine RP so we've gone decaf where we can. (Caffeine is meant to be bad for male & female reproductive stuff apparently).Along with cows milk, due to cow hormones confusing our bodies (!)- we've gone to nut based milk for a while to see how it goes. Its all worth a try! (tmi alert - reducing dairy has improved OH's mucous based issues whilst excercising!). :)

Well no call from the clinic.
So I guess this means that it's all systems go for Friday 13th!

Good rant kuma hope you felt better after that. I've been sent to GP from FC with a checklist of tests / records to get - FC didnt have any record of some of the tests i've done - v annoying - seems to daft to me that they can't just share all fertility related records with each other.

I just had a 23 day cycle too

birdy FC says as I'm probably ovulating and DH sperm ok , so we'd go straight to IVF if laparoscopy doesn't help - I asked him about clomid but he basically said not appropriate for us.

i love coffee too! But can't drink more than a cup as it makes me jittery. I was bad last night and had my entire allowance of three glasses of wine now have to abstain at a dinner party tonight

Pip - glad to hear it's all gearing up for your 2nd attempt. Looks like I'll be doing my 1st cycle sometime around jan/feb. I guess I'd better show some restraint at Xmas as my bmi is already about 26 and I don't want it creeping up with all the festive indulgence!

aquarius it's bizarre how the nhs treats the same circumstances differently in different FCs. You'd think there were some guidelines or something?! FC said the same to me - I appear to be ovulating, DP's sperm all ok - but we're on the clomid!

Very much enjoying my lie in. Stupid dog woke me up at 5.30, took a while to get back to sleep, then stupid DP woke me up at 7.30, and ditto, but the fact remains I've had 12 hours in bed which hasn't been possible for weeks and I really needed it!! I'm not one for a lie in once I'm awake, but I can't remember the last time I was able to not set an alarm and it was bliss! didn't set an alarm on the hen do but that doesn't count as we were up so late both nights!

snow the google dr who game was awesome!

Grrrrrrr aquarius to FC GP annoyance

barking Yay to the lie-in despite the interruptions

pip Oooh it's all go for you! Hooray for you fitting one in before Christmas! My FC nurse said if AF isn't here by 25th (tomorrow) then I won't be able to start till after Christmas!

So I feel really stuck in limbo-land! My messed up periods mean I have no idea when she will be here so I have no plan

cd16 here and feeling very crampy (for the past couple of days) and very bloated today. I'm wondering if it could be the clomid but don't remember this back in July. When in your cycle did you get the bad cramps sid? Did you have any bloating as well?

you fell off my active list so putting you back on

Pip great news

Barking yes, while I was taking the Clomid tablets, I had horrific cramps; it felt like one continuous stitch at my right ovary and at times took my breath away. Was painful enough to keep me awake at night some nights but thankfully went away once I was done with taking the pills - it didn't last all month. around ovulation time my ov cramps were worse. Consultant said it was indicative of how my ovaries were stretching etc to accommodate the extra follicles, but then at scan, I had only developed 2 big ones and a third smaller one - kind of concerns me in terms of how I'll respond to IVF drugs, bc previous scans have shown I ovulate from each side on my own anyway, without drugs.

The whole thing did my head in and I decided not to take the second round of tablets, mostly due to just wanting to get on with IVF.

Anyone remember how long they bled/spotted post-hysteroscopy? I'm still having a bit of pain and random spotting. Surgeon said to not DTD til bleeding was over, to avoid poss of infection. Today's CD9 and I don't want to miss one of our last possibilities for an ironidiff!!

Barking, I got crampy feelings for about 3 -4 days before ovulation when I was on the clomid.

(IVF consultant tactfully said she didn't agree with me ever being prescribed clomid in the first place. Confirmation that my initial FC was a muppet.)

Sid, we waited just under s week to dtd after my hysteroscopy, I didn't want to wait any linger as it was the right time. that was what caused our bfp so I'd say we waited long enough!

It could be ovulation cramps but it would be very early even if 4 days after cramps started. Clomid didn't bring ov forward last time so I'm not expecting it to this time. Not had a + opk yet, still snowy white.
Feeling really mixed and weird about the whole ttc thing at the moment.

It could be ovulation cramps but it would be very early even if 4 days after cramps started. Clomid didn't bring ov forward last time so I'm not expecting it to this time. Not had a + opk yet, still snowy white.
Feeling really mixed and weird about the whole ttc thing at the moment.

Did that just post twice?

Sid - I bled for 5-6 days after the hysteroscopy. It got really frustrating having to wear pads for that long. I'm certainly not looking forward to 9th Dec and my fibroid op. for some reason I think it may be worse.

Boodle did you have your IVF appointment yesterday? How did it all go? Which protocol did they say?

She didn't actually say which protocol it was, despite explaining the process in great detail. Down reg from cd21 and then official test day 6-7 weeks later.