The Elderberry Pavlovas: still chasing that 'copter in the hope of a festive BFP. Thread 16 (the one where Happy was left in charge!!)

[happylass]

Here we go again.....

The smallprint –
Berries have a strict entrance criteria (TTC #1, over 30, TTC for 6+months, NO instadiffers, must have a special pot) and def no mention of baby dust or baby dancing UGH !!! Ooooh aren’t we strict!

Just googled! Long protocol then!

It's sad that we have to go down the IVF route but at least we'll be in it together. We won't be able to keep up with this thread around Feb time!

Ooh boodle exciting! So starting in Jan? Am I the only one on short protocol then?

Jan/feb is going to be busy busy in Berry HQ!

Gil it is sad that we've got to this point but i feel better now I know somebodyelse is in control, does that make sense? I've even kind of given up TTC naturally

I'm on the short protocol too Bunny.

I don't know about January, Bunny; hubster has some unavoidable business travel early next year and I guess we'll just have to look at dates closer to the time. Might have to put it off for a couple of months if the dates don't work.

I feel a bit left behind, if I hadn't had the bfp then mc I'd be starting ivf in January as well.

Now I'm in some weird limbo where I'm still hysterically jealous of bumps and still avoiding the bump-that-should-match-mine, (even thinking about facing it brings me to tears) yet part of me doesn't want to get pg now until next year. I've concentrated so hard since the mc on pushing myself to do all the things that I couldn't do if pg.
It seems to have worked a bit too well as now I'm really looking forward to all that stuff and don't want to stop!!

The approaching wedding doesn't help either. When I got my bfp the dates worked beautifully. I would have been safely pg as much as you ever can be by the wedding, but not too close to the due date. If I got a bfp now I would be likely to be stressing about another mc and/or in the middle of nausea & exhaustion. Also, it'd be at that point where some people would feel awkward because you've told them too early but I couldn't hide not being able to toast my own wedding so it'd be a little obvious!

I'm feeling very mixed up and confused!

Barking you're bound to feel confused. I am crap at advice so can only suggest that you have to keep plodding on, enjoying the stuff you can while you can and knowing that whenever you do get diffed you will be thrilled and the timing won't matter at the end of the day.
What month is the wedding? How's the planning/dress coming along?

Barking tbh, your wedding will work out whatever. You either are so pg you tell people, or don't need to -- or, you sneakily toast with sparkling apple juice. Also you can easily get a dress adjusted by a decent dressmaker. Honestly, the wedding won't be an issue :)

So.... CD6, AF still not entirely finished , plodding along here till weekend after next when I can leap on DH again.

Is it really terrible that these days we mostly just cuddle if we are not actively ttc that week - and we don't mind?

I am v v excited for all the IVF people. In a way, it is great that you are getting such expert medical advice instead of just having to figure it out on your own. I am positive you will all have bfps by spring!

RP lots of cuddling in the charming house.

Well, it turns out that my ov induction cycles only include 2 scans in the package cost. That was not made clear and I went along for 3. I kicked off and they cancelled the invoice. I would not have agreed to more scans had I known. Had to pay for the meds on top as well, so the price quoted is not an ov induction if you ask me.

11 dpo, so not worries about short lp now. Feeling very emotional and cramps, so reckon af on her way. Eating like a heffer and have sore boobs.

boodle glad the appointment went well. I agree about putting yourself into the hands of the experts.

Charming was this a monitored cycle? apologies I always need a recap, I have a terrible memory did you def o? Did you get the third scan for free then?

Ooh Charming I'm glad you made your point and they backed down. I only did 1 "ovulation induction" cycle with them, and only had one scan didn't even occur to me that there might be a set number included in the package. This is one of my pet bugaboos - it's hard for me to feel comfortable if in the back of my mind I'm wondering if I'm being over/under charged, whether I'm being talked into something I don't need, etc. What's the plan for you going forward? How many cycles of Clomid did you think you might do?

Have sent off some forms to our IVF clinic in prep for our appt next week. Starting to feel a bit real, now.

Ah another shorty, when you hoping to start gil?

boodle hope you manage to fit it round hubby's trips!

Oh barking sorry you are feeling bad, hugs x

charming what a pain they didn't explain things properly

Ooh sid it's happening yay!

Dare I mention a new list?!?

Well the 25th has come and gone, which means I will def miss first available cycle!

rp I'm not really bothered about being pg for the wedding (and I'm making the dress myself so that's not an issue) I'm really just terrified that I'll either be throwing up on my wedding day, or much worse, having a miscarriage .

But, shag week here so dutifully upping the frequency to every day if possible.

What will be will be. Unless we decide to stop ttc not going to happen at this point then I just have to accept it is out of my control and will happen when it happens. I need to stop mourning the pg I lost (that was perfectly timed for wedding/work/in sync with friends etc) and move on.

Sorry for the delay bunny and the confusion charming, glad you got it sorted.

I'm pretty certain I'll be starting the drugs at the end of Feb Bunny.

Thanks barking I am trying to see the positive and will be having a few drinkies at the work Christmas party! For the best really, if I didn't drink at the party they would all think something was up!

It will take a while to get over your loss Hun, don't rush it x

Gil I hope we can start end December or end jan depending on AF.

Guys! Just GOT to tell you something! Some if you may remember my friend who I've been desperate to join the berries as she's been having such an awful time ttc.

Anyway after 3 years ttc, meant to be starting ivf about feb. her consultant wanted to try one last thing (letrozole and prog pessaries) and she's just got her BFP!!! Know you guys don't know her but wanted to tell you, especially those with very short cycles as this has been her pr

*problem

Ah Kitty that is such good news

Bunny our Christmas party was planned ages ago and for some reason I thought I may be pg by then, so told everyone i'd be driving so I could get away with not drinking. Anyway I won't be pg but have now been roped into giving lifts for others grr

Barking isn't it better to DTD every other day? I've heard if SA shows low count then it is better to have 2 or even 3 days worth 'in stock' but also that if motility if a problem then no more than 2 days between DTD... but then if your DF has healthy little swimmers then it is probably fine so just ignore me!!

Can I please take back yesterday's rant? I want to be pg NOW. I came home to two emails from two different women, both saying they could no longer come to our wedding because they were pregnant. .
The first woman is due a couple of weeks after our wedding. I immediately counted back and realised that the last time we saw them must have been the month they got pg. They had said at the time they were ttc but were both still drinking and smoking heavily (literally chain smoking, I ended up spending most of the evening outside as they wouldn't go inside as they couldn't smoke) while I cradled my one glass of wine all night Why is life so bloody unfair? Also, just to add insult to injury, we'd had the ttc conversation with them, they knew we'd already been trying ages at that point, but there was no consideration of this in the 'sorry I can't make your wedding but good news - I'm pg!' email. Grr. .

Sorry, had to get that off my chest. Feeling very emotional about it. Although I'm also glad that the bumps won't be at the wedding, so there's a bright side I suppose.

birdy The research is very mixed. There is no problem with DP's side of things at all so we don't have to consider that. If we aim for every day we'll probably hit somewhere between EOD and ED. The sperm meets egg plan suggests EOD through the cycle then 3 days in a row after a +opk. In the clomid cycle that got us the bfp we managed every other day with 1101101 in shag week. So basically 5/7 days in shag week. Worked last time so we're applying the same strategy!

Wow kitty that is fab for your friend! There is hope for us all then!

Blue that's crappy, can't you change your mind and get drunk too?

Barking rant away my lovely, that's shite! I cannot believe they didn't consider your feelings when they sent the e-mail.

How is everyone? Any goss?

barking I feel your pain. 2 births over the weekend and 2 pg announcement on one email chain today. Both instadiffers - one honeymoon, other new relationship. Announcements made by the menfolk, so rather insensitive and self congratulatory. I quote ' I'm very proud of my little chap'. Ergh! This is the same group of friends where a pg was announced by the bloke a few months ago via another email chain with the words 'wife will be smashing another one out'. I know blokes are different, but really?
blind that's a great story. Curious...does your cat pay you more attention now like she did with your diffed mate?
12 dpo. Too early to pimp? This is my first clomid cycle & was monitored. Def ovulated, the dominant folly disappeared! It was a day earlier than fc had thought it would be, he thought I'd need a trigger, but it had already happened by the third scan. Had dtd the night before, but not before, as he'd said it would have been too early...hey ho.
Gonna give the clomid two more cycles, but doubling to 100mg. Then it's injections.

Hi all

"Smashing another one out"?? FFS!!!

We had a run of births at our office recently and lots of pics of new borns which I had to delete immediately. And then there's the flipping collection- somehow i just didnt feel that enthusiastic about congratulating all the people who can "smash one out" but you just have to join in or you look really tight

Boo to the diffed wedding cancellers- so not a nice thing to have to hear but at least no bumps at wedding.

V nervous about my AF arriving this month (have pretty much given up hoping for spontaneous bfp now) - its due sometime towards end of week when i have very important work stuff on and i just know it'll have arrive in the middle of it all just want to get my Lap op done ASAP so they can get rid of the endometriosis

It really sucks doesn't it charming?
Personally I'd want to wait until I was late to pimp (although given my luteal phase is generally 8 to 9 days that means I've pimped before 14dpo many times!), but each to their own! Might not be too early for a bfp if there's one brewing .

Eurgh Aquarius, if it's ever possible, hope AF is considerate about her arrival. Or obviously that she doesn't appear at all!!

charming as if you remember! No bump as yet but if once i do, it doesn't get any attention off her we're going to have words!!!!

Still on cloud 9 over my friend! She was actually meant to be going to an adoption night in a few weeks as well as she was convinced ivf wouldn't work