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TTC 10 months + Part 17.

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MuddyWellyNelly · 25/09/2013 16:49

For all the lovely 10+ers, and anyone else lurking, who has been trying for long enough to start worrying. This is a great place to rest until the elusive BFP shows up.

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joycep · 27/09/2013 09:13

Oh gin that's not what you need, I am sorry but thank goodness they have found it now and so they can treat you and your little one when time comes. I am sure I was reading that some pregnant women don't even get tested for it which is absurd. Anyway I am sure it is of little comfort, you kind of just want the worrying to stop.
5bb is good, mine is 4cc and the other doesn't even have a grade!

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 27/09/2013 11:08

Pff, right the stress does not end ever, does it...

So sorry about the scan cos. It ain't over, and I am willing little cosfoetus on with all my might. But it is more worry. I agree it is time FertilityFuckers to give us here a break.

Sorry about the worry gin. I am sure they'll care well for you and ginestas and you'll soon be home with the perfect baby bundle.

Only 18 weeks to go, buzz. Other people's pregnancies fly by!


Well done on switching off joy! I am hoping for a lovely surprise for you.

As for me, the positive tests were preceded by no spotting, the last 3 years worth of cycles mostly with spotting. So no, I don't think I have a chance. But til AF is here, I am not drinking etc just in case. She'll be here tomorrow though, more spotting after rather a "tricky poo" to borrow euro's expression or was that on a another thread?

But after flapping, menkulling and crying last night and this morning I am moving towards pulling myself together. After breakfast I got my (healing, hurrah) injury treated, met my sister and nephew (and a baby born on my due date plus his mum) for coffee. I held the little person for ages and it felt good. I was happy about that. The heart-wrenging pain will not keep me from enjoying other people's children.

I went home, it's a nice autumnal sunny day, town looked lovely, I had a chat with my neighbour about his garden and little jobs that always need doing. Since being at home I came up with a plan for the next few months. I am allowed to start running again, but have to take it easy. So running one day, core stability exercise the other, and horrid ankle strengtheners every day...

I'll try and do something fun twice every week (or more) for the next month or so, think cinema, meeting people for drinks or dinner. I am going to write my diary again to give the whole IVF-adventure a place. We'll escape for another mini-break to regroup and then do the next FET in November/December.

In my appraisal there was a bit more talk than I liked about sick-leave, so I might have to have a word with occ health. There are big decisions being made and I am on a short contract so I would like to keep the whole fertility business out of their attention. Of course crying like a baby when confronted with my absences which include a mc, a chem pg, and EC won't help my case. Oh well. They thought my performance was excellent despite it, so... And they'll reduce my work load a little, as it's a bit heavy, as you've noticed Wink

So that's enough mememe. I needed to write it down, apparently!

Handholds, loves and crossed fingers to you lot!

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rumisyum · 27/09/2013 11:22

Thanks, nelly, I'll add my chocolate cherry brownies to the tent's selection, and make myself comfortable. Smile

cos, I'm hoping with all I've got that this is just an artefact of the very early scan. Hang on in there.

buzzy over half way! How wonderful.

gin, I'm sorry to hear about the strep, but am certain everything will be just fine for your little one. At least it's been found so it can be dealt with, yes? Hugs to you, though, extra worries are the last thing any of us need!

I just lied outright to a colleague who asked me about why I've been a bit up & down & unwell at work recently. "Are you trying to get pregnant?" "Not really." Shock But seriously, how are you supposed to respond to that?!

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rumisyum · 27/09/2013 11:29

X-post, lemon. Tricky stuff, but sounds like you've worked through to a good place with things at the moment?

I understand about work. I was hoping that denial would get me through this & work wouldn't notice, but last week it became apparent I really need to man up & confess that I'm struggling & make adjustments, before I start fucking up in any serious way. (I need to be very emotionally robust for my job, which I clearly am not at the moment.) So I've started having Talks about reducing responsibilities & hours. It sucks, but thankfully everyone has been supportive. (If also somewhat nosy if they're not in the know - I'm trying to keep the details on a strict need-to-know basis to minimise gossip, but it doesn't look like it's helping!)

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CocoAndNuts · 27/09/2013 19:26

Just a quick post before my train gets to my station ..

Happy birthday mad hope you've been spoilt rotten.

lemon your plan sounds fab. Putting yourself back in control and making positive steps. You are such a strong woman.

gin sorry about the extra stress. Thankfully they have detected and can take the right measures.

Just arriving at my station, so waved to you all.

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Tenmonthsandcounting · 27/09/2013 19:27

Wow, evening ladies so much has happened in the past week or so. Another apology that I have disappeared but we yet more family deaths (for fear of outing myself I will skip the details) but suffice to say thingsa re a bit hectic. I have been trying to keep reading but in the end admitted defeat and have just had to go back to the last thread to remember what has happened. I cant remember who it was who mentioned they have been here for a while, I for one remember reading thread 6 and 7, that seems like a long time ago.

Thank you for your kind words about MIL, MrT seems to be handling it remarkably well, and I am just trying to be as supportive as possible.

Pout I am not sure if you will ever read this but I want to add my voice to the chorus of those to say I am so so sorry that this was the outcome for you. I imagine it will take some time to recover from this.

Cos I am sorry to hear the news about the heartbeat, I really hope that it isnt a bad sign. Big hand hold.

Rabbit Your appointment sounds like a horrible shock, I think no matter what it is hard to hear the tough messages from the horses mouth. I am sorry that you feel so low as a result. The ladies here speak so much sense in terms of giving IVF a go, you really dont know what the outcome will be. Taking things one step at a time and not fast forwarding mentally to the worst outcome (a fault I have) may be helpful? I hope that you start to feel a bit less low soon, infertility is like bereavement, the five stages definately apply to how I have felt over the last few months.

Joy I am sorry that your run up to ET was so stressful for you and you felt that the clinic didnt listen to you. I am very impressed with your bravery about the injections, I am terrified about them and I dont think I have any scary ones coming. I also like Sarlats fuck them rant, I agree and second it!

Mrs Den Your colleague sounds like a right cow. I am so glad that someone told her that her behaviour was unacceptable, what a totally rude thing to say, even if you notice something like that you NEVER mention it rude rude rude.

Rumi Sorry about cyst news, but yay to lots of wine, that sounds like a good plan! WHy do people continue to ask inappropriate questions like that!!!! Drives me mad. I do feel bad about lying to friends though.

Lemon I am hoping that your test tomorrow is a positive, but your list of all of the good aspects of your day is a fantastic mindset. Also having a plan of nice things to do that are non ttc related is great. I understand the issues with work, I cant tell my firm that we are doing IVF, equal opportunities etc have not been heard of, I work with all men in a very corporate world, at least they think your performance if fantastic! That is great.

Gin I am sorry about the new thing to menkall about, it doesn't get any easier does it.... at least they know, this is treatable (I know these platatudes wont make a blind bit of difference!)

Coco I am sorry AF arrived again, have you spoken about why he doesnt want to consider IVF? I dont think MrT had considered that we would do it until a consultant explained how low our chances of conceiving naturally to him. Until then he thought that it would happen at some point. Is there anyway of getting him infront of a doctor? Or is it an ethical thing?

Buzzy 22 weeks, great news!

Hello to everyone else I have missed Euro Nelly et al...

AFM we had out initial consultation at Create today, ICSI antagonist protocol agreed on and will be starting this cycle. I have no idea how I am going to manage this with work, I am terrified of needles, and generally feeling a bit cr@p that we have finally reached this point. BUT I am lucky that we are able to give this a go, I am lucky that Create are fairly local and can use as few drugs as possible, I am lucky that I have a wonderful husband who I wouldnt change for the world despite his quite frankly shite offerings.....I am also hoping that I have run out of bad luck given all the recent deaths and that we might just have an easy ride for once (pleeeeessseee fertility gods) Grin

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CocoAndNuts · 27/09/2013 22:31

ten so sorry you've had another bereavement. Life certainly knows how to dish out the crap doesn't it.... Hope you and MrT are doing ok.

Unfortunately MrC has already been put in front of the Drs and give some facts. But the Drs didn't seem too "concerned" about our chances. Sighting the two miscarriages in two years as evidence of working tubes and juices.
He's said, what will be will be, and although he'd prefer to have children. "If it didn't happen for us then so be it" .....
It's not an ethical thing, more to do with not wanting to spend all our time in Drs waiting rooms.
I don't know if he'll change his mind later but at 38 there doesn't feel like there's much "later" left.
I had a crap day today. Very weepy for no apparent reason. Almost hormonal but that makes no sense. Guess it's all just getting to me. Plus my father is unwell. Then work is very uncertain, with the company I work for having lost three quarters of its staff in the last six months. It's all piling on.
Then as I was leaving for the day, I bumped in to my boss in the loos. I was looking red eyed after blubbing due to a work colleagues last day. And she said "oh no have had another one?" (Meaning mc) Hmm. Guess there's no secrets in this office then.

Have to go. Sleep time. Night lovelies

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Tenmonthsandcounting · 28/09/2013 07:51

Ah I'm sorry Coco it sounds like you are having a stressful time, be kind to yourself, sometimes things feel harder to deal with for some reason, so don't beat yourself up for feeling emotional. It sounds like you have a lot on, and this ttc shit takes it out of you emotionally.

I'm afraid I have no idea of what you could try with MrC apart from explaining how important it is to you to have a baby and therefore how important it should be to him. Sorry sure you have already tried that, but worth a shot hey.

As you say though the mc show you can fall preggers, so this isn't the end of the road for you at all, you just need the next one to stick where it is supposed to, this can happen naturally for you.

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Cosmos1 · 28/09/2013 16:32

Have got my head together a bit now so will attempt a catch up.

Lemons thinking of you today - what's happening are you still spotting? Have you tested or are you holding out to test? Hope you're ok. Good for you for still enjoying those babies.

Joy honey how you doing? Are you still feeling calm, hope so. Did you make it through the rest of the week at work ok?

Rabbit lovely I'm so sorry you've had such a tough week. I can completely understand how you've been feeling, it's a very tough thing to hear. I really do think you can feel very proud of how much effort you've gone to with the dietary stuff, you must have iron willpower. It will make it harder going into Ivf knowing you're probably not going to get high egg numbers, but after all the stories I've read now its so not as simple as more eggs / embryos equals more chance of a baby. You've got as much likelihood of Ivf working as anyone, and the only way of knowing is to give it a go with all you've got. Why not add DHEA into your already healthy living, it can only help right? I agree with Sar's motto, think open heart and go for it. You don't need to make a decision about donor eggs now so why not forget about that for the time being? And as far your past and ED I don't think that's got anything to do with it, you could have lived your healthy lifestyle you lead now forever and it could be the same, it's just shitty shitty bad luck. I agree with the others that you've had a cp on your own recently so you were nearly there, I really hope that Ivf just controls things that but more to help it happen. How are you doing now btw?

Buzzy thanks for all your support recently, I'm so glad you've got to the week you have, that's such good news. Mr S didn't give me an actual heart rate so I don't know but I could see it wasn't flashing very regularly.

Mrsden you've def been waiting a long time and deserve your turn now.

Mad good luck for your scan, is it on Monday?

Nelly I always love the sound of your outdoorsy life, I have an image of you romping round the countryside all ruddy cheeked and flowing hair!

Ah Gin that's not what you need, it really never stops does it. So glad they know so can treat you both appropriately. I'm sure it will all be fine, please don't worry.

Sar glad you're progressing we'll, are you starting to feel better yet?

Rum how rude of your colleague to ask so directly. I say blunt questions deserve blunt answers.

Ten glad your appointment at Create went well and you've got a plan - goog to get going so quickly.

Sea how are you getting on with the waiting?

Coco it is hard when you and DH have a different idea of what a good future plan is. I have the opposite issue that DH would prefer to keep doing Ivf unlimited number of times which fills me with dread that there will be no end point.

Waves to pottering, euro and anyone else I missed.

Afm after epic wailing session down the phone to my mum last night am feeling calm again. Will just have to see on Friday. I think the odds are low but there's still a chance it will pick up so need to keep going for now. Thanks for all the supportive messages, I feel very high maintance!

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Buzzybee123 · 28/09/2013 21:38

cos Shehata isn't the most optimistic, see what happens on Friday, but I would recommend a second opinion if you are not 100% sure, my fingers are crossed for you, I agree with gin its hard to know what is going on at this early stage, their isn't much to see

ten so sorry to hear about the family death, glad you have a plan with Create

coco I cannot believe your boss said that,what a cowbag, sorry you are feeling blue, big hugs x

rum yes half way is a milestone, and I am very grateful

I have to say it doesn't feel like it is flying by, I don't really feel any different, just unwell

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Buzzybee123 · 28/09/2013 21:39

lemon any news from you ??

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 29/09/2013 07:51

No news yet and af was due yesterday! Otd tomorrow. Scary, but possibly good news... Petrified to jinx it tho!

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joycep · 29/09/2013 09:09

Lemon- keeping everything crossed for tomorrow. Sounding good.

Coco - sorry to hear you are having a rough time and to hear your dad is unwell. I hope you feel better today.

Ten - the anticipation of ivf is often worse but I am glad you are getting going quickly. I think many of us had a fear of needles on here but it's extraordinary how normal it be ones.

Cos - I understand how horrendous this all is. I have lots of hope that all will be ok next week.

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ThatWayMadnessLies · 29/09/2013 11:48

Morning everyone from summy Scotland.

lemon I have everything crossed. I would so have poas by now. Good luck for tomorrow xx

cos I hope you and MrC are doing ok. The waiting must be unbearable. The scan must have been really early? Mine is tomorrow and I'll only be 7 weeks by my reckoning. I will be thinking of you both.

ten my experience is definitely that these things come in waves. I am so sorry that you've had to go through it. I hope that getting on with ivf will be a real fresh start for you.

coco that must have been very awkward with your boss. I have told quite a few people about my situation (endo surgery made it easier to discuss it) but it does mean that it's harder to keep things private when you want to. I hope that rebalancing your workload will help. Sometimes you just need to put yourself first.

joy hope you're managing to keep busy and distracted during the wait.

rabbit how are things feeling and looking this weekend? You had such a traumatic week it will take a while to get your head around it all. I hope that your hobbies and Hare are helping you to get through it.

gin one more thing to worry about but being forewarned means the hospital can be forearmed and avoid any unecessary stress for the ginlet when she arrives. Not what you needed though.

Big waves to everyone else.

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freedom2011 · 29/09/2013 23:01

Hello! I haven't read but just marking my place on thread now I have found you all again and saying things slowly moving here, insurance paperwork finally done by my clinic so hopefully get the go for IVF soon and chinese doctor still doing his work and I had a 30 day cycle which is great as the previous one was 47 days so this is where I am trying to get to - a regular cycle. Will read up tomorrow, have a good week everyone.

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MuddyWellyNelly · 29/09/2013 23:03

Been away this weekend so can't really catch up, but wanted to wish Mad luck for tomorrow. I hope you get a nice, uneventful, reassuring scan :)

And also Lemon........ Fingers crossed for your OTD.

Will try to post tomorrow if I can. Luffs all round.

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lovesLemonDrizzleCake · 30/09/2013 07:49

Good luck Mad, with scannage!

Otd is here and we're just waiting for official results now! I'll get them to call SB, so won't find out til tonight. But AF's absence continues!

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ThatWayMadnessLies · 30/09/2013 08:19

Oh lemon that must be so nervewracking!! I understand getting SB to take the calls but i really couldn't wait. I am hoping for very good news. You so deserve it.

Thanks for the good wishes. At work now and leaving at ten to meet MrM at the hospital. Had to buy a new bra yesterday as have already gone from a 30F to a GG Shock. I will look like I'm after a career in glamour modelling.....

Here's to a good Monday for us all xx

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Ginestas · 30/09/2013 08:29

Good luck lemons!! I'd be pissing on sticks like a mad woman if I were you Grin

And good luck mad. Additional boobage sounds like a v good sign

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CocoAndNuts · 30/09/2013 09:07

Good lemon So damn excited for you! I'd have cracked way before now if I were in your shoes.

Good luck with the scan today mad GG Shock That's a fine pair of snuggle bumps you have there.

Feeling happier today. Me and MrC had a chat and decided to focus on our future rather than constantly stressing about my Dad and trying to sort his life out. (Long story but in a nut shell his ex-wife has taken him to the cleaners, he's had a stroke, gone blind and is now in massive debt)

We starting talking about our plans for the next 5-10 years. With or without children, there are going to be changes.

Monday morning awaits.
Catch you later lovely ladies.

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Buzzybee123 · 30/09/2013 09:32

lemon you are like superwoman with your iron will, I would have cracked a few days ago, its looking promising Grin

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Tenmonthsandcounting · 30/09/2013 09:56

Cos Fingers crossed for Friday for you.

Lemon This is all looking so positive for you, I hope the news this evening is the best kind! Majorly impressed that you have refrained from pissing on fivers, I would have been broken a few days ago I am sure!

Mad Good luck with your scan today! Boobage sounds like a good sign!

Coco That sounds very stressful indeed, I am glad you and MrC had a good chat and youre feeling more positive.

Happy Monday all!

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joycep · 30/09/2013 10:02

Best of luck to mad and lemon.
Grin at Mad's big norks! Roy has been admiring the size of mine too but that's gestone injections and not pregnancy sadly!

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CritterPants · 30/09/2013 13:18

Very quick good luck waves to mad and lemon from the bus shelter! Thinking of you both and have cry thing crossed. Tail feather preens and fluffs to lovely ten plussers in the tent, will attempt a proper catch up later x x

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CritterPants · 30/09/2013 13:19

Everything crossed, not cry thing crossed, sorry!

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