TRC 10+ months. Part 15...

[MuddyWellyNelly]

New thread for the lovely 10+ers. 14 was awesome so another like that please!

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Buzzy great to hear from you. Hooray for Barry and the top notch porn selection . Huge vibes for gazillions of embies by tomorrow and a BFP in a couple of weeks. Lining sounds good too. Well done to you both, I'm in awe of the way you've handled it all. Fingers so very tightly crossed.

Critter what news of your little brood of embies? Are you PUPO?

I don't think I can use a digital yet as I don't think they are as sensitive. I do have a FRER but not sure I'm brave enough to change brands... I've been panicking a bit that if I'm not imagining those lines (I'm not, MrN can see them too!) then they are still just because of the micro dose of HCG last week. And then I swing back to thinking there is a teeny chance I might be pregnant. Time will tell I guess!

[ThatWayMadnessLies]

Hello buzzy. Interestingly MrM was quite put off by the presence of a sofa in the room at our clinic. Far too much potential for germs . I am curious about what set the porn apart . My test date isn't for another week [wails]. I need work to be busy so the week will fly past. Feeling bloated and a bit meh but nothing that i haven't convinced myself was evidence of pregnancy before when there most certainly wasn't any justification. It is just too early..... Fingers are crossed for an excellent egg haul.

Oh nelly I have everything crossed for you!!!!

[MuddyWellyNelly]

MrN thought I was weird for asking questions about the wank room! Last time he was taken off to do his stuff whilst I was in theatre. This time probably because one egg doesn't take long to retrieve he didn't go until after I was back. I told him that didn't take long then started asking questions, until he told me to shut up.

I know what you mean about the imagined symptoms Mad. I was quite tender last night but have certainly been tricked by my body enough times not to fall for it. The oddest thing I have is probably unrelated. I sort of feel like I'm being squeezed around the waist, but from the inside like I've done too many sit ups. It's not exactly in the womble area though so probably means nothing. I also feel my period could start any second so trying and failing not to obsess either way.

I'm quite embarrassed at just how much I've posted on here the last week, but can't seem to stop myself.

[CritterPants]

Hi gang

nelly a darker line is an excellent sign! I have everything crossed for you. Don't worry about posting a lot, I will be too over the next couple of weeks I'm sure - this is when you really need this thread! Also, your posts are always funny and cheer me up.

mad it seems like your test date is a looong way away! Do you think you'll test before then? I can imagine that the mentalling would be intense!

gin I have thought about embryo donation a lot. My sister has been asking whether we would donate an embie to her, if necessary... but MrC isn't keen - as it would be genetically his child too of course. Funnily enough he would be in favour of donating anonymously. I just don't know... at the moment I guess I'm hoping to put off the decision. I would donate eggs in a heartbeat (although at 33 I think I'm too old now) but embies, especially if we have our own children... I don't know. How are you feeling? Still retching? I hope only in a good way. My goodness there is a lot of waiting in this process!

sea Four years? Anniversaries and 'deadlines' are bloody hard. On your downregging question - I'd just ask the clinic - but I would have thought it would be ok.. it probably gets absorbed by the skin inside your nose?

buzzy at the better porn selection! MrC said they didn't have any videos at our clinic, just a large loo (like a disabled loo) with a few mags. So glad it's all going so well. I have such high hopes for you. You are an amazing lady. Fingers crossed for a lovely clutch of eggs and a family of embies of Victorian proportions!

Back from my ET. There were two good-looking blastocysts but we decided to only put one of them back. The doctor seemed a little surprised at that - he said that most people go for two - and he actually even mentioned how some people went for three! I think it was the right decision for us, but of course I'm now stressing and googling about lower pregnancy rates from elective single embryo transfer. There were three other embies at the 'early blasto' stage and five at the morula and early morula stage so hopefully there'll be more than one for the freezer - the lab will call me tomorrow and let me know how many made it to the freeze-worthy stage. It was SO cool seeing the little white puff of water going into my uterus on the ultrasound screen. I was just smiling from ear to ear. My OTD is May 23rd but I will probably crack and test before then.

[CritterPants]

Also - mrsd are you ok? Am sending you lots of love and hoping that your gardening work yesterday has led to some beautiful blooming baskets.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Critter that's so exciting! I know what you mean, that white blob was so amazing to see. Hurray for being PUPO. I think you did what was right for you re SET and therefore it was the right decision.

On the embryo donation, I think I maybe said this before. My sister has 2 frosties left after a surprise natural BFP. She had once mentioned them to us; but for me it would be too weird because the resultant child would be a full sibling to hers. I'd rather do DE so MrN still got to be the father. For donating eggs 35 is the usual cut off I think. But is your sister still single? That might be a bit different.

I too am hoping MrsD is ok. Is OTD tomorrow or Wed? I will keep everything crossed that Sunday was just too early.

I think I may have over-exaggerated the darkness of today's line vs yesterday. In all honesty the thing I'm clinging to most is that in my last cycle I had a BFN the equivalent of 2 days ago. But I still feel like my period is extremely imminent (TMI but like something is about to slip out ). Am slightly beginning to menkull....

[ThatWayMadnessLies]

nelly the cruellest thing is that lots of people say that they were convinced their period was about to start when they got their bfp. If mother nature were kind there would be no mistaking the two.

critter i don't think there is strong evidence that two embies put back maies much difference and with the new freezing technology you would have an excellent chance with a frostie. I would find it hard to watch someone else raising a child that was biologically mine. I would be with MrC that anonymous donation would be easier to live with. Anyway welcome to the PUPO gang . I might try a test on the weekend. Monday morning at 6am doesn't sound like the best time to test from mental health point of view

Dinner ready. More later.

[buzzybee123]

critter yay to being pupo, i'll be testing around the 23rd, well actually more the 20th as that is two weeks from EC, your sister could do IVM where they can collect immature eggs and freeze them, its the process they use for women under going certain medical treatments, I know Create do it so I would imagine most other clinics do it, she can then have her own babies in the future if she needed them

nelly its natural to post lots in your 2ww I think it might be hard bringing up your sisters biological child, DE would mean that Mr N could still do his bit, plus you don't have to worry about stimming, I would recommend Brno, its a good y grand cheaper than DE in the UK, I haven't been as stressed as I thought I would be, perhaps it will hit me later

madness I suppose a couch is better than doing it in a toilet, a bit more relaxed, I didn't ask if the couch could be wiped down or not but the rest of the clinic was spotless

just been out for yummy dinner, my main cost £4

oh nelly did we have a deal that if the arse bullets worked you'd name your baby mini buzzy I thought of that while using my own arse bullets

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Buzzy I am glad you thought of me whilst using your arse bullets

We may have to compromise on the name as we'd have a double initial with MrN's surname. Though I am very very grateful for them so thank you again.

Hooray for 4 quid meals!

[ThatWayMadnessLies]

nelly I'm posting lots too. I think it's only natural as we're thinking about this so much every waking second. I am confident the progesterone is doing its thing. I would normally have started spotting by now but nothing. It's also making my boobs quite sensitive, especially the nipples which is quite new for me. I do think it is just the progesterone though.

So glad it's going well buzzy and you are feeling happy with your clinic choice. I don't think MrM sat down at all! He didn't want me asking too many questions either though

[joycep]

Just popping in to say best of luck Mrsd. Sorry it was a bfn the other day but in my experience 13dpo is too early. So hoping this is the case.

Nelly - omg I really hope this is it for you. I believe AF pains are a good sign especially if they aren't thê usual thing for you.

Mad - hang in there, you're doing brilliantly!

Critter - well done on the embie transfer and hooray for frosties.

Buzz - hope all is going well out there.

Will check in later , have had a lovely weekend out of town.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Glad you had a nice weekend away Joy, you certainly deserve it.

Buzzy looking forward to hearing your news, keeping fingers crossed.

MrsD I hope you are managing to keep busy and willing better news for you on blood test day (tomorrow I think?).

At this end, stripey art continues. Still faint, still hard to tell if its darker. I'm now 13DPO. I never thought a positive at this stage would be so inconclusive. I've no idea whether it's a true positive, and I'm now on obsessive knicker watch. I am expecting AF any second. I know you all think the daily testing is nuts. But if I'd not done that and waited till today and got a faint positive, I'd have properly believed it. Bad news on blood test day would therefore have been devastating. This way, I have a bit of hope to cling to but with a hefty dose of realism. I was still wide awake at 5am panicking though. Oh it's going to be a long week.

[joycep]

Oh crumbs nelly- your hcg injection should be well out of your system. A line is a line in my book plus AF signs is all positive!. as I have kept mentioning on here before , I had a negative at 15dpo after a positive beta test. The next day with fmu I had a very very faint line but beta levels were over 200. When is your otd? Can you go and get a blood test at 15dpo?
You must be beside yourself . Crossing all fingers.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

. I don't think I'd clicked you didn't get a BFP before your blood test.

Thank you for supporting my insanity. It should be a good sign, but I really can't believe it. Blood test will be 16DPO so I will just have wait it out. Badly. Impatiently. Publicly . I'm down your way tomorrow and might be free after 2/2.30. Wonder if anyone can sneak out for an afternoon coffee (Euro or anyone who is central??).At least my all morning meeting will stop crazy knicker checking tomorrow...

[akuabadoll]

Helllooo TRCers
nelly I for one love the test lab. It does look promising, really.
well done critter it all sounds brilliant. Hoping for good news mrsden and hang in there madness. So glad your experience is good so far buzzy
nelly my glamorous life continues with some dodgy Brooklyn Thai food last night keeping me awake half the night the fat belly was massive when I got in last night, think it might be a bit smaller now I bought some Prenatal vitamins on sale yesterday (I can't find them at home), biggest box, 180 tabs, felt pleased with myself until I realised you are supposed to take 6 a day. Six! They smell like a farm yard and I gagged on one yesterday. Yet another fine purchase....

[joycep]

Nelly - when clinic called to say I was pregnant, I ran to Boots to buy some sticks and it was negative. It was a bit of a let down! But for some reason hcg levels don't seem to properly or clearly register on sticks until about 17dpo with me. just shows everyone is different.
It's a hell of a wait. It's mental torture. It's impossible to be patient, to stay sane, to function, to concentrate, to sleep so I just hope Friday comes as quickly as possible for you..
Ooh I reckon I could slip away at 2ish tomorrow but where are you going to be? PM me if you like.

[mrsden]

The trigger would surely be out your system now nelly? I'm going to offer you a cautious congratulations

Critter, wonderful news about your little embie. I'll eat my hat if you dont get a baby from the round.

Buzzy, glad to hear all is good in Brno. Good luck.

Joy, that's really interesting that you didn't get a bfp on a stick for a long time. Do you think that was an early sign that things weren't right? Or are the two things unconnected? My clinic did say not to poas because they're not that accurate, yet on the packet it claims 99% accuracy so it confuses me. It's all irrelevant for me anyway because I know I'm not. I have no symptoms at all. The blood test is tomorrow and I'm hoping ill be able to get some closure on this round with the result. I do feel very sad that it didn't work and I wish there was a way of knowing why. I would really like to hide away under a rock right now but there is no option but to carry on. I have cried myself to sleep for two nights in a row. I'm determined that there will be no tears tonight, I need a good nights sleep.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Doll you do make me laugh. 6 a day, sheesh!! If you want vits I could post some out to you if you like? Though US does seem to be cheaper generally. And hope the fat belly is feeling better

Joy I am glad you think my insane witterings are just normal for an ivf 2ww. I didn't feel this way last time but I wasn't getting the positive pee sticks, and also my wedding was rather distracting. I normally work at home on a Tuesday but decided to come to the office to force me to concentrate more. Not sure it's working too well.

I googled pregnancy symptoms. Dry skin was one and yesterday I noticed dry patches by my eyebrows. And yes the constantly feeling that you are about to start bleeding. I should probably step away from google.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Cross post MrsD. It breaks my heart to think of you crying yourself to sleep. It's the worst feeling ever, I am offering you a hand across the water. Fingers crossed for tomorrow. But if its bad news remember you have learnt loads about the drug regime, and you made embies when you were very worried about it. Next time, if you need it, you'll get a better response and it will work. Get a nice bottle of wine out aside in the meantime and allow yourself to be sad. I still hope you don't need it though, fingers tightly crossed.

[mrsden]

Thanks nelly. I've already instructed dh to buy a bottle or three of wine. Step away from the symptoms list! that dry skin is a sign, I bet oily skin is too.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Probably!!! I was actually looking for more specifics on the feeling I have that my insides are falling out and the link I clicked had a whole list. I don't have any of the others, promise! Am I the only person whose boobs never hurt and weren't affected by progesterone??

I appear to have inadvertently bought a Brie filled lunch. I'm happily eating it, but if this is a real BFP I better do some fast research. I've steadfastly refused to look beyond the 2ww for so long now, I am ill prepared.

[MuddyWellyNelly]

Also I am going about your use of the C word . Even if I get the good call on Friday, I probably won't believe it until .... Well, ever.

I hope I don't have a dodgy batch of tests. I have a feeling I'm going to be like Peter (of the crying wolf).

[joycep]

Oh Mrsd, huge hug. Of course I hope you get thê shock of your life tomorrow but if not I echo Nelly's words. There is a lot to be learnt from this cycle and you can go on to the next one more confidently. I know that doesn't make it any easier right now but crying and getting it out of your system will help.
My hcg levels not showing on a stick at that point are unrelated to the outcome. It was about 2 weeks later when my beta levels were 9000 that they suddenly slowed down. They took several weeks to get to 30000 when it probably should have taken days. That all indicated something was wrong.
Anyway I hope tomorrow comes quickly for you so you just know one way or another. We are here for you.

[FormerlyKnownAsPrincessChick]

Just a quick check in from me...

Cheering the PUPOs along. Hopefully your 2ww's will be over soon and will all be resounding BFPs. MrsD I've still got my fingers crossed for you - it ain't over yet; Nelly tis sounding very promising and I'm loving your chart of pee sticks (you could enter it into an art museum - I reckon you'd fetch a fair few pennies); Madness and Critter hang on in there guys; and Buzzy I'm hoping your ET goes well. Your holiday sounds lovely but I'm in awe of how brave you are being about the whole process and in a foreign country to boot. Hugs for you all.

If it helps, I had no symptoms before my BFP apart from mild backache. I felt like I had raging PMT and that was it. I was convinced that AF was on her way and when 3 days late was convinced it was my body playing silly buggers again. I only did one FRER and the line did take a little while to come up. It wasn't dark until about 10 minutes later. The symptoms didn't really kick in until 8 - 9 weeks, when it was full on nausea and honking several times a day from week 8. I know it's hard and that everyone wants the tick list of symptoms so that they have some sort of definitive yay or nay, but I just don't think they exist. It's not fair. We should know instantly and then be able to avoid booze, guilt, 2 weeks of the waiting misery. Tis not fair this lark. We were joking how baby princess was subjected to champagne, gin cocktails, red wine, pink steak and lobster when he was a small ball of cells. Part of me feels a bit guilty about the indulgence during the 2ww; the other part of me thinks it's not a bad way to start life!

Doll I've given up on multi vits. My iron levels are fine and I just couldn't stomach the taste of them anymore. Plus they made me wretch to the point of vomitting, which kind of negates any of benefits that they could have offered. I have a draw full of hideously expensive unopened supplements that I should have been shoveling for the past few months. But I just think I'm happy to be eating a good diet and not worrying about anymore pills. I don't think it's done any harm as the brute baby I have seems to be busy enough, growing well and doing all the right things.

Sar and Gin hope you two newly diffed ladies are getting on ok... welcome to the world of being treated like a 'normal'. I still find it very, very weird and would like a badge for special treatment and a medal for being in the race so long. The lack of recognition irks me sometimes. Especially when people assume things happened so easily. Not a complaint but just a mild niggle. I also get irritated by instadiffers and announcements, it doesn't give me the Princess Rage but it does make me itchy in my brain hole.

Joy, Euro and Lemons I'm thinking of you ladies and extending a knowing smile and hug and hand hold your way.

Rabbit sorry for the spotting and continuing NHS woes. Did PALS get back to you about your poor experience? Have you found a womb yoga person yet? The lady who does my weekly yoga did a Sat sesh of womb yoga the other week as a one off and invited us all along. It seems to be catching on.

Waves, hugs and / for everyone missed.

Oh, and talking of yoga, did anyone see the whole yoni thread thing a few weeks back (the man from Hull proffering yoni massages - it's in classics and certainly brightened my day when I stumbled over it)? I have obviously heard a lady part referred to as a yoni before (I lived in Brighton long enough, you can have yoni counseling down here if you need to connect with it ) but I was nearly in stitches when our yoga teacher told us to "make the yoni symbol on your tummy; the potent symbol of woman" Oh how I had to keep THAT chuckle in.

So as for me, I'm 35 + 1. It's nearly D Day. I finish work this week. It seems very surreal. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do with a new baby and to be honest it's starting to freak me out a little bit (?) but in a very good and happy way. We are still at the in laws, things are going better at the house and I've been cracking the whip gently encouraging Mr P to go over to the house after work to do stuff, whilst I sit and watch and read books under the guise of getting the bloody thing finished in time and keeping the pressure on keeping him company. In the words of Christina Milian (anyone remember her?), "it's all gravy, baby". I actually have no idea what that means but it sort of seems fitting. Anyway my stress string has well and truly snapped and by exposing myself to The Village weekly, I'm keeping my perspective and monkey under control. I've probably gone a bit cuckoo what with the hormones, heat and 8 month exposure to in laws . ^Rocks in corner repeating it's all gravy, baby. It's all gravy, baby" BUT we nearly have one finished room, the plaster disaster is now resolved and we still have 5 weeks left (more if the baby is late - looks at bump and sternly instructs baby to be fashionably late, no-one likes an early comer to the party.)

Hope it's sunny where you are. Lots of cheer leading and loves, Princess xxx :)

[FormerlyKnownAsPrincessChick]

Doll that's a drawer not a draw. One of my pet typo hates. So slapped wrist me.