Out with the OPKs, ban the body temping; here's Just Shagging thread 14!

[Rockchick1984]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly opk's or temp charting. They are Contraband

The link to Part 13 is here

The link to the latest grads thread is here

Happy shagging shaggers

Hi All

coffee how is DH after his run in with DS? glad to hear DS is back to himself now.

andie any news on af/a bfp yet? Its so frustrating when af doesn't show and you just don't know why isn't it!

Humpty i thought my tea/coffee in take each day was high but you beat me hands down! Good luck with finding caffiene free alternatives. I started drinking more of the fruit teas in work when we started ttc in an effort to cut down on the caffiene. I find the tesco apple and cinnamon one nice. I just told everyone I was trying to be healthier and they were a way of getting more of my water intake every day! They all bought it!

rock thinking of you. hope the dizziness has passed. I miss being on the pill when I had light periods with no cramps!

cookie hope you and dh managed to stay awake and get the cape out!#

Red thanks for the support. It does help to have everyone on here and know we are not alone doesnt it! Tell me, why is Easter different for Russian Orhodox?

Update from me, cd12 and i'm already on the verge of giving up ttc. my cm seems to be gearing up for ovulation earlier than it has in previous cycles, but i thought best to get the cape out last night and get started so as not to miss an opportunity. I got stone cold rejected by dh. What do I do with that!!!!!!!???????!!!!!

Hi all,

Gosh, a lot happened on here this weekend.

essie how are things going now? Any news?
humpty wow! Fantastico! Lots of rest now for you!
Red I constantly get asked when number 2 will be coming along. I just think that clearly they have never had any issues themselves and so wouldn't dream that I might.
lil1ady sorry to hear your cape was not working at full power last night. Hope it is charged up for tonight!

We have had family staying so I haven't had a moment this weekend, between cooking, clearing away, washing up, making teas and coffees. I got to the point this afternoon where I just wanted someone to make me a bloody cup of coffee!

Sometimes I really wish people would help when they came to stay. It just means you spend your whole time in the kitchen and they spend it sitting around bored in the living room. I had to round everyone up to get out yesterday otherwise we would have been in all weekend and it's been such lovely weather too!

Anyway...it also meant that we couldn't DTD at prime time so not much hope for this month. Grrr.

Hey y'all! Have been away for a few days visiting a friend, yay for the lovely weather! Boo to being vommy at all times and especially on flights. Anyway, just wanted to pop back to high five humpty and see how you're all doing? essie how are your grandparents?
Lots of love xxx

High Five back atcha MrsAVB - you're on the grads fred, aren't you?

lil and totes sorry to hear you've been having a lack of cape action. That's horrid. You sound like you need a sexy weekend away.
Hope everyone else is okay. xx

Yeah, totes - I don't have any kids yet, so I can understand my family's intrigue, but you'd think that would be even more reason to say to themselves, "Gee, maybe she's having a hard time and I shouldn't ask AGAIN." My cousins are doing a fine job popping out kids like candy from vending machines. Like I said, there are already FIVE great grandkids. Everyone can just sit and wait on us. Hmph! I am sort of horrified that your guests didn't give you a hand. I am always the first to offer to wash dishes, etc.

lil I must preface my crap explanation of orthodoxy by saying I am married in and know very little . It's similar to Catholicism except they don't follow the pope (because they believe no one man is infallible - makes sense actually) and they follow a different calendar (hence holidays falling later). It also means you get to stock up on candy at 50% off after "regular" Easter (bad, I know). The Russian church DH's family goes to (not often, mind you) is gorgeous. There's still a lot of iconography and mystery - singing, incense, the whole bit. Interesting stuff.

essie hope your grandparents are doing better. You too.

red before I had DS I had a Family member who would constantly ask if there were any buns on the oven in front of others and I also felt like everyone else could just look at a man and fall pregnant. On a deeper level, it made me feel like a failure, but unless you have experienced the ever increasing disappointment of getting AF every month, it's probably not something you can comprehend and thus be sensitive too. At least that was how I forgave this family member!

As for the guests, it makes me reluctant to have them back!i remember they came when DS was a few weeks and didn't help either. Again, total lack of thought on their part.

Just having a nosey again....hope the GPS are ok essie....

And huge congrats to humpty!!

Morning ladies.
Just checking in making sure husbands, grandparents and kids are ok. I've been very busy this bank holiday weekend taking others on holidays, wish I was on mine. Grrr
As of tonight one shall be donning her cape of shagability again in vain hopes of grounding myself. I fear this summer will be a mega killer.
Anywho Have a lovely hot Tuesday and eat lots of cake, moderate coffee and plenty of how's your father! Xxx

Hi ladies!

Still no frigging broadband at home, hence radio silence from me. Hoping they will get it fixed next week.

coffee hope your DS and DH are ok! Poor things.

Humpty the carte noire decaf is quite good, but blimming expensive. The pukka mint and liqourice tea is really nice but also stupidly expensive, though liqourice is probably on the banned list isn't it?

GPs are ok, lots of broken bones but otherwise doing alright. Other driver still in intensive care but police liaison says he is expected to make a full, albeit slow recovery. Gpa appears to be losing the plot a bit though, which is v sad and difficult for everyone, especially my Dad. Logistically its going to be a lot of work though as they need to be relocated as they can't stay in their current house now they don't drive.

However, had a nice weekend mostly and really enjoyed the sun. Loving having a garden for first time in years!

Not sure I've ovved again this cycle. Starting to get a bit freaked out. Pretty sure I ovved cycle 3 and 4, but nothing seemed to happen last cycle, or this one which is cycle 6. CD 17 today and no sign of anything much happening and previously I've had pant snot at appropriate times and been able to feel something vaguely going on. This whole early menopause thing is starting to freak me out, though my cycles are actually really regular so perhaps I need to just chill or go to Dr and get some reassurance. Almost wish I didn't know about it, but tbh if I didn't I'd probably still be faffing about pretending I was 21.

I too thought I'd get up the duff the minute I came off the pill. Two of my best friends came off the pill on the day of their weddings (which were also two weeks apart!) and got up the duff on the honeymoon. Quite amazing!

I think chocolate is in order today!

Love to all xxxxx

Morning ladies. Sad to say AF arrived with a vengeance yesterday. I've had three months of relatively light and painless ones and typically, because this one was late and I got my hopes up its very heavy and painful. I spent yesterday feeling sorry for myself and eating cake.l

Stupid thumbs!

essie Glad your GPs, and the other driver, are going to be ok. That's a shame about them having to relocate, it can be harder to adjust when your older. Sorry your Gpa isn't doing very well, sometimes a shock or an illness can bring things tumbling down for people. I know my nan wasn't herself at all when she was taken ill suddenly and it can be hard to deal with so I feel for you and your family.

Hi Andie sorry to hear ERTD has got you. Mine started off light after I came off the pill but the last couple have been a bit more normal! Cake sounds like a good idea though! Here have some too. Hope you feel better soon.

Thanks re GPs. Just feel sad and a bit helpess as nothing really I can do. :(

xx

I had the implant (which was awful, I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy!) out in August, had screwed up cycles until Jan then they settled to 31-35 days and eased up but this one has been 41 days and is awful again. :(
At least I have my new job to l

*look forward to.

Aw andie sorry to hear ERTD is here.

essie glad to hear things are getting better. I too am very worried about my gps who seem to be going down hill quickly now. It's hard on all the family.

Congrats to all with BFPs an hello to everyone I have not mentioned!

Had a very drunken weekend. Rebelled and had my first cigarette too. Just think I am so pee'd off with the ttc thing that I need to cut lose!

Anyway bank on the healthy band wagon this week and we had some damn fine drunken JSing at the weekend. Should be oving around now so all good!

*back not bank!

andi I also had the implant and it has taken a while for my cycles to get back to sync. almost there after 4 months.

ds and dh are back to their normal selves! although it's weeks like that I wonderabout my sanity thinking of having another!

I'm now officially it if the fertile window and on the count down to ertd.... not very hopeful this month...

red and totes that kind of pressure is unhelpful. Why can't people understand it? It's on TV/films/in books enough - pay attention FFS!

essie thanks for the Carte Noire tip - and I think liquorice is fine (not on NHS list of foods to avoid, I do not trust DM to give me nutritional advice!) so I'll check out the tea. I found sweet chai (non-caffeinated) in Holland and Barrett earlier, it's quite nice.
Glad to hear GPs are physically on the mend and the driver too, although sorry to hear your GPa is struggling to cope - not surprising really. Needing to be relocated is no fun. You have my sympathy.
Also, as for the ov'ing, do you use contraband whispers if so I could send you a set of 30 OPKs? stops whispering

andie sorry the witch got you - and so agree about the bloody implant. I had it years ago for 6 months. Bled everyday, I nearly strangled the doc who said 'Can't you give it another 6 months to 'settle'?' when I went to have it out. I think it's evil.

quark maybe drunken JSing is what it takes? If tv soaps are to be believed, all you have to do is get drunk and have sex once to get preggo...

coffee glad your DH & DS are both okay now. Phew. Fx for you.

I'm seeing my GP on Friday (will be exactly 5 weeks then). Am excited and TERRIFIED all at once.

Hello all

Glad your all well!!

Essie good to hear the gp's are on the mend.

Andie l think all Contraception is pants i was on the depo for almost 2 years and it messed up my Systems.

Frog hello

Humpty 5 Weeks eek!! All those teas sound yucky!!

Today l fell over, not only do l feel sore l also feel About 5.

Hi everyone.

Am now ready to jet off on holidays (sorry minion) and won't be paying the extortionate charges to use WiFi abroad!

forgive me for vagueness but am on my phone...agree with all of you about birth control being pants. 7 months off it and still wacko cycles. was it Essie worrying not ovulated yet? whoever it was don't freak out too much. last couple if cycles have been about cd31 for me. I think even if they seem to be getting normal Ur cycles could still be wobbly and adjusting and house move may not have helped. But the garden must be worth it!

Good luck at docs Humpty it may start to sink in then!

cookie was it you who fell over? or am I mixing you up with coffee (your names are too similar for my brain to cope with so late at night! well whoever it was hope u didn't hurt yourself. I am always bumping into things walking around the office. dh thinks they beat me up in there I cone back so covered in bruises!

Andie sorry AF is heavy but at least you know where you are at now rather than absent everything!

Quark rebellion is necessary from time to time. its getting back on the wagon that counts. and that's also the hard part!

well I try and catch up with u all again before we fly on Thursday but if not waves baby dust to everyone while I'm gone

Hello hello! Been AWOL for a bit with various things going on but have been checking in from time to time. Wow such a lot has happened!

Essie- sorry to hear about your GPs and all the sadness and difficulty it's left for you. Thinking of you. I have ongoing care issues with family so I know what it's like. X

Humpty- huge congrats! Sorry I'm a bit late to the party. Woo hoo for you!

Coffee - sorry Ds was ill but glad he and DH are better now.

Sorry for those folks who got Ertd. Hopefully next time will be your turn.

Well, in Bearland there's been lots going on the last couple of weeks. We had dreaded school inspection just at the time when I was oving so think we completely missed it this month. I could feel it going on as I was driving to work and felt furious by the time I got there. I had so much extra work to do for inspection that there was no time for shaggedies. Sad face. Then I had a car accident last week. An old person went into the back if me so had to sort all that out. Then was away all weekend visiting family and now back to work I go. Hi ho. Also, I bought a new fitness DVD and OMG it kills both during and after. I'm on day 2 of 60 and I think I might be broken!

Oh yes, and after much faffing we now have our referral to fertility clinic for July, so not too long to wait.

Had a bit of a cry again at the weekend on my own about Ttc. Didn't wang to make DH feel bad. Had to spend time with my adorable nephew who's 4 months and ended up feeling miserable for a bit but managed to hold it together in front of everyone. I feel very up and down about it all but I'm holding onto the referral as our only hope. :( thinking of you guys who are struggling with Ttc. Chances are you'll be pregnant soon though. :) hang in there.

Wang? Er, want I meant.

I also have some amusing predictives. Humpty is either Humphrey or Humpy if I mistype. Essie is Eddie or easier! Arf. :) we could all be old men!

Lol Bear - old men or dodgy porno names if u want to call people Easier and Humpy!!! So glad the appointment has come through for the fertility clinic, I'm very impressed with you holding it together while having tiny squishy baby cuddles - I know it's different circumstance but I'm struggling being around babies since the miscarriage, you are being very brave about it all. Are you ok after your crash?

Lil have a fab holiday! I'm very jealous - we are going to a caravan park in July - not my first choice, but finances and a toddler dictated, and I wouldn't be able to relax on the beach abroad anyway without stressing about DS.

Cookie are you ok after your fall? It's horrible to fall in public, I'm incredibly clumsy and I just want to cry even if it didn't hurt that much when I fall!

Quark both times I've got upduffed I've been incredibly drunk, sometimes it does you the world of good to rebel a bit. Hope you had a fun night

Andie sorry ERTD got you, have some

*Essie] glad everyone involved in the crash will be ok.

Red the Russian orthodox sounds fascinating - I'm not religious but DH is so think DS and any future kids will be raised with the option to believe in it all if they want to. We had DS baptised anyway, so the options's there if he wants it!

Well, ERTD seems to have left the building - onwards and upwards!! Need to dig out the contraband - just to make sure I'm ovulating and everything is back to normal - quite positive about it all at the moment although I'm certain I won't feel like that next month when AF rears her ugly head!!

Ha ha to porno names Rock! Wonder what yours would be being Rock . . . ? Bear doesn't come off too well in my mind either!

Rock - I'm fine after the accident. Had a bit of whiplash and felt groggy for a day or two, but I'm okay now, thanks. TBH at times I don't feel I'm holding it together that well, Rock. I try very hard to remind myself of what I do have and to have hope and I do okay most of the time, but I get soooo jealous sometimes of other people who have their babies that I can't be around them for too long. I can understand why you would struggle being around babies too, but I really hope you get your BFP again soon and this time it'll all be alright.

Can I just share with you guys my utter disbelief at the antiquated systems in this country with fertility clinics? I feel like I have stepped back into the 1950s. So my husband is the one with the low sperm count and morphology and the varicocole which is potentially the cause of our problems with TTC. He goes to the doctor and asks for referral. Let's ignore all the crapness and faffing that has held us up for nearly three months now. So, when the appointment comes through, it's addressed to me and for the gynaecology unit at the hospital. So, I ring up and tell them that DH asked for the referral and now it's addressed to me only to be told that there are no male infertility clinics and that the focus is on the woman because she's the one who gets pregnant. I realise I am just lucky to have an appointment, etc., but goodness me, does that mean that practically no money is invested in male infertility? Also, I know it's just a label and a means to an end, etc, blah blah, but it seems to me to be symptomatic of a reluctance to admit that males have problems with infertility. There is so much information about women, but so little about men and sperm, so that with my name on the appointment sheet the emphasis is on me. Maybe it will be different when we get there, but I was so surprised.

One other quick moan, which is why oh why do I have to go to an infertility clinic in the same place as the antenatal unit? I know the answer of course - no chuffing resources etc. but it's so flippin' insensitive, not just for me, but for everyone concerned. Hmph.

Of course I may be wrong about all these things - will be interested to see how the appointment pans out.

Lil - enjoy your hols! Soak up some sun for me!

Quark - I get like that sometimes too. I'm supposed to ahve given up alcohol, but jeez, I've been at this for nearly two years and I need a bit of joie de vivre at times! I figure as long as it's not a regular thing, then it's okay, so I save it up for when I'm feeling most in need.

Red- don't the RO have beautiful churches? I think I saw some in Italy once in Rome and they were amazingly sparkly.

Right, must get off my bum and do stuff. Have a good day everyone!

ahahaha! Love the porn names. I remember doing that thing ages ago when you get your first pets name and your Mother's maiden name and put them together. My Dad's was Judge Knight.

Bear how flipping crap is that! Makes me wonder statistically (I'm sure the info is on google but I'm not going to start on that) how many fertility problems are down to the man and how many are the woman? Though it looks from your current experience as though no effort is put into male fertility anyway, so any stats out there are likely wrong! So even though the appointment is addressed to you, do they want to see you both, or are they saying at this stage they only want to see you? When I had all the cervical problems a couple of years ago the clinic shared facilities with the GUM clinic which made me feel just amazing. Naaat! Really good that you've got the referral though and hopefully once you've been to this appointment things will move along fairly quickly for you. I hope when you get to the appointment they skip all the crap and get to your issues since you already know what is likely causing the problem and you are probably ahead of other people who go for the first appointment. Glad you are ok after your car accident, not nice at all.

Sooo, I ignored the rules, sorry ladies. I had some EWCM this morning for what feels like the first time in months, so due to my current anxiety about ovving I piar and used contraband. Big fat positive line. Phew. Not going to make a habit of it, but it's enough to make me feel reassured for now! Hope DH doesn't wear himself out at squash tonight! Humpy thanks for the offer of your contraband - v v kind of you, but I had some a friend gave me after she had her 2nd DC and decided that was enough for her! I'd not used them til now because I couldn't really be arsed, but then it seemed silly not to when I was getting in a state. Good luck with your GP appointment too! xx

Think my GPs are still doing okish. My Dad is back from ooop north today so I'll see him tonight and get an update.

Love to everyone. Essie Easier! xx