Out with the OPKs, ban the body temping; here's Just Shagging thread 14!

[Rockchick1984]

Ladies, Fred title says it all; we are the ones who shag as much as our men can cope with in order to get upduffed without the stress of scientific whatnots!

Fred rules (copied from previous Fred)

1. Thou shalt shag as much as humanly possible in order to get upduffed.
2. Thou shalt not partake of OPKs, temping, or charting.
3. Thou shalt keep symptom spotting to a minimum.
4. Thou shalt share and with your fredmates where needed.

JSing lingo;

ERTD = Evil Red Tide of Dooooooommmmmmm. Or AF to most others.

Pant snot = Egg white cervical mucus.

Doing a kitten = Getting upduffed soon after joining (warning: may induce in other posters).

Viroid = This is you, dear poster. This is from the first JS thread when someone tried to type 'ladies' and it autocorrected to 'Viroids' - so there you go!

POAS = Pee On A Stick (of the pregnancy detecting kind, not from a tree). Also known as PIAR (Pee In A Ramekin - cos we're posh birds innit). Or PIATLH (Tea light holder) PIAWG (Wine glass) or anything else you care to pee in!

Shagging like something = JSing like a teenage nymphomaniac.

Giving a hooya = Giving a much needed slap to a fellow poster in danger of slipping into ttc obsession.

Contraband = Of COURSE none of us EVER partake of any silly opk's or temp charting. They are Contraband

The link to Part 13 is here

The link to the latest grads thread is here

Happy shagging shaggers

Hello rock nice to see you

Yeah it is painful almost all the time. Hopefully I'll get the ultrasound in a month cause the dr has asked me to come back in 4 weeks.

Hi Rock- good to hear from you. Sorry it's painful atm but hopefully that will ease up. Sending you sly hugs. x

Cookie - sorry that you've got what seems to be a cyst. I hope you can get it sorted soon and that you aren't in too much pain in the meantime. Look after yourself. x

Well, we've obviously been discussing the Boob a bit too much because guess what I keep getting adverts for? Yes, his new album and I haven't mentioned him anywhere else in cyber world.

This is just a quickie from me while DH is in the shower. Well, turns out that the doctors have done diddly squat about our referral. DH rang up about it and found out - he was furious for hours after and I daren't mention it now as he gets angry thinking about it. He has a docs appointment for next week to talk to the doc and get the referral there and then. So, they've wasted a good 6 weeks of our time - thanks very much!

Plus, if one more person announces they're pregnant on evil FB I may just have to throw something. I really, really wnat to post on my FB either: 'Would you all stop telling me you're pregnant and making me feel bad?' or at other times I want to say, 'I'm so sad, because I feel left behind and I really, really want it to be me next.' But we can all sympathise with that here can't we?

Sorry, been annoyed by that all day and I can't tell anyone in RL and DH just gets a bit angry about it atm as I said. I'll try to be a bit more positive in future. Apart from that, everything else is going okay. How's eveyine else?

*everyone

Evening all!
bear, don't feel you have to be positive, it's shit! Stupid drs. 6 weeks is a long time . I hate that when there's so much in life to enjoy, and we shouldn't wish it away, that stupid things like that make time seem long and frustrating. Maybe DHs frustration will help move things along now?
FB is very annoyingly full of pregnant people and people with children. And people posting stupid daily mail type comments about "benefit scroungers" and Margaret thatcher.
I have had a frustrating day too. After 4 days at my mum's cleaning and cooking I've come home to a pigsty. I don't even think the washing ups been done since I was gone. I was so annoyed when I got in that I stormed out and went to the bakery and got a cream cake, put the Voice (recorded) on and ate it. Err...That'll teach him.
I also found out today that I have an interview for a job I really want next week. If I get it we'll have lots of decisions to make about ttc, and even more complicated ones if I happened to be pg this month. Part of me really resents the impact having a baby could have on my career. Part of me would love to give it all up and be a stay at home mum too, sigh. and its annoying how much of it all boils down to money. Any advice, more experienced shaggers?
Hope everyone's had a good day
Xxxx

Bear I would be furious re the referral!

MrsAVB the best FB pictures are the ones comparing "This pensioner lives on 50p a year, while this illegal immigrant gets £45,000 a minute". I take a small amount of pleasure in commenting to point out that if they are illegal they don't actually get any benefits :)

Re work/SAHM I was a mortgage adviser pre DS. I've given up work - my wage would basically have covered childcare and work expenses (smart clothes, travel, lunches etc) with only about £100-200 left over. I had been planning on returning part time but once DS arrived I just loved staying at home with him and didn't feel ready to put him into childcare so I resigned. Financially it's not easy but I've got time to shop around and have cut our weekly food bill in half as I cook more from scratch, have time to nip to Aldi for some stuff, butchers for meat then asda for the rest rather than a big online shop topped up with milk and bread from the stupidly expensive corner shop. I wouldn't change a thing but also wouldn't make any firm plans before your baby arrives.

Mornin' folks.
Getting full in here now. Well I'll soon be on the dreaded 2ww though it's probably a no from me as due to my long and ridic busy shift yesterday I was to pooped to do the gherkin jerkin. Then this morning he was tired so it was a no then and according to the app yesterday was the prime time! I guess I just have to hope that one little stubborn swimmer floated around from the night before.
Though I did spend all day yesterday with a weird tight elastic band stretching feeling going on, thought it had gone but no, it's still here.. hmm?
Hope everyone is well, ILS not getting on tits, houses being cleaned and moved into swiftly, eclairs being shovelled furiously and JSing being utilised to its maximum potential.

rock lovely to have you back x

Urgh, house move turning into a disaster, I am struggling to believe it but our accountant is a total berk. He cannot count. He's left us without enough money to complete this week! So now we can't complete or move on time unless the solicitor is a wizard. DH blaming himself, I am livid because I said the numbers didn't add up but accountant told me in not to many words, not to worry my pretty head over it. Will all be ok and should be able to move next week but means rearranging EVERYTHING I spent ages sorting out and taking yet more time off work.

To top it off I had a stomach bug yesterday so had to sit in my house full of boxes and fester in my fury!

Rock great to see you back, sorry you are in pain though, hope it eases soon, poor thing. I worry about how everything will work if I get pg and how we will afford everything. DH says it will all be fine and we've worked out how the numbers would work in theory (without the expert help of our nobhead of an accountant) , I think I'd want to go back to work, but til it actually happens it's impossible to know how I'll feel.

cookie sorry to hear you are not feeling great either, thats not good, hope they don't keep you waiting to get it sorted.

bear so blimming annoying about the referral, its so upsetting feeling like no-one is working to help you. When I had all those problems a couple of years ago it just dragged on until I started hassling. I hated that I had to but it did get things happening a bit quicker. Glad you've chased though and hope they get their act together now for you. I'm afraid when people announce they are pg on FB I hide them from my newsfeed so I don't have to hear about it.

MrsAVB sorry to hear you came home to a pigsty, I know the feeling. I'm on cleaning strike at the moment because we are moving out and I've booked a cleaner to clean after we've left so I am making the most! Cream bun and the Voice sounds like a good protest though, my tummy must be better cos the cream bun sounds appealling!

Minion I'm in 2ww, think we'd have to have some sort of divine intervention to make me pg this cycle too. Just hope ERTD doesn't mess me around as I have a hen weekend shortly after she's due and I want to get drunk! Keeping fingers crossed for you and for everyone else in 2ww and otherwise. Hope someone gets a BFP soon.

Sorry for the epic and Hi to anyone I've missed, can only see most recent page due to stupid phone. xx

Hi :)

Can I join in please?

I have a ds age 5 and a dd age 2 weeks today i can promise you I am not crazy :) been ttc for ... Well ... 1 night dh and I got back into the swing of things last night, we would ideally like a small age gap between dc#2 and 3. Its never taken me long to get pregnant 4/5 months with ds, 1 month with dd.

Not going to do any of the ovulation/calender watching stuff. It drove me crazy doing that with dd and I only did it for a month. I couldn't imagine doing it for longer if we didn't concieve so quick this time. Plus I'm pretty sure I got all the dates wrong last time

Hope everyone is well and doesn't mind me joining in.
Ill poas in a month if no period has happened. I obviously don't know when period is due ect as I haven't had one for 9 months the only bleeding I had was for about 10 days following dds birth. I guess that can't be counted.

Good luck ladies

Welcome twinkles, will reply properly later, but you sound like 1 brave lady wanting another baby when yours is only 2 weeks!
Xxx

bear that's bloody ridiculous. How have they done nothing? Stupid docs. So inefficient. Also, I hear you on the 'why can't you all just STOP getting upduffed before me' - I wouldn't say it, but I do think it...

Rock nice to see you - how you doing?

Mrs AVB bloody husbands eh. I have to nag Mr Humpty to do ANYTHING, he forgets otherwise. Good thing I'm very good at nagging...
As for the SAHM thing, I'd love to SAH, we'll have to see when if the BFP comes along. I'm all for leaving options open!

Minion sorry about the long shift/no shag cape, but fx for a stubborn swimmer! Plus your app might be wrong. Don the cape!

essie that's bloody shit - stupid accountant. You poor love.

twinkle welcome - and BLIMEY! JSing TWO WEEKS after your dd was born?

DH, solicitor and mortgage people are all bending over backwards to sort problem out so we can still complete on Fri rather than next week. It's looking vaguely possible now. Please x everything!

Welcome twinkle yes, agree, you are very brave! Congrats on your little one too!

Yes Minion definitely keep the cape on, my ERTD is pretty regular but ov is anything but. Keep jsing!

Humpty I am amazing at nagging too. My day job is essentially just organised nagging as I arrange training, meetings, events and appointments for about 120 men and 5 women (I work in construction which is why so many men!).

Haha - I feel like all I do is organised nagging too, Essie, and I'm a teacher!

Well, Essie and MrsAVB - you definitely take the stress crown from me. Hope your respective shit gets sorted soon. Poor form from nobhead accountant and Mr AVB.

Essie - Good idea about blocking people from the evil FB feed - I like it!

Minion- get your freak cape on. You could ov later as others have said - it's worth a try!

Humpty, Rock and others who mentioned it - yes, referral or lack of it is totally shit when there's potentially an 18 month waiting list for IVF. Not sure who is to blame, but they are generally crap at our doctors and I'd like to move. DH has said he is going to write a letter. How very British! Bless him!

Hello Twinkles - welcome, welcome. Pull up a chair. My, you are brave getting your cape on after just 2 weeks! Total respect for your dedication to the cause. Hope you like it here.

I had one of those pointless meetings today for an hour of the type that only the public sector can create. Let the good times roll, eh!

I would love to be a SAHM if I ever get a BFP, but then I worry about not being able to get a job once the DCs are grown up so feel I should keep my hand in. Also, could be a struggle financially, so don't think it'll happen for me.

Hope everyone is well today.

Donning cape for shenanigans later on tonight.
Purple, fur lined, crushed velvet, like a pimp yo'. Hoping it doesn't hurt like other night, that was pretty weird. Plus need this odd feeling to go to get me in über mood!

Hello all!
Thanks for your wise words re. SAHM etc. DH and I talked last night and have agreed, if I'm not already pg, to put the cape aside until after I know whether I've got the job, and if I do get it to put it aside for 6 months or so afterwards . If I am already pg and do get the job, we'll have a very difficult decision to make, as depending on the new employers maternity arrangements, it will likely leave me with only maternity allowance not SMP, which will be hard to manage financially. So I'm kind of hoping that either I'm not pregnant, or I don't get the job. Thinking long term, the potential new job would be much better, eg. Closer to DH's job so we could move somewhere more affordable with room for DCs, more money, better potential for progression, more interesting. If I have to make a decision not to take the job because I'm pg, I think I'll be very sad and resentful, especially because as we all know, so much can go wrong in a pregnancy and I could end up losing both. Guess i need to stop thinking so far ahead but its hard not too. Ain't it hard being a woman. And the interview is on my bloody birthday.
rock I also hate those kitten falling over and "men are shit" updates on Facebook. Why oh why oh why!
essie your house stuff sounds like a bloody nightmare, sounds like you need a cream bun! Hope your tummy is feeling better.
humpty and essie I think I need some nagging lessons, I hate having to nag mrAVB (I mean DH, not the spurs manager , and end up bottling it up or being passive aggressive, or doing what he should have done whilst stomping about.
minion I like the sound of that cape! Enjoy
Xxx

Oh Minion - I'm pretty sure that I read that when it hurts at certain times of the month it can be because your cervix isn't in the 'right' position i.e. you're not fertile and when it doesn't hurt, then you are. This happens to me soemtimes too and I never knew, so just thought I'd share. Of course, it could be something else, but I figured it was this as I get it fairly regularly.

Hi all. Just checking in after a busy start to the week. Feeling knackered after the weekend and work is mental!

Sorry to hear about your house essie. Buying a house is apparently up there a one of the most stressful things you can do! Can you use jsing as stress relief? ;-)

mrsavb i came home to similar! I chose to blitz on my half day off and leave a pile of washing to fold (6 loads :-)) and all the socks to sort evil genius

6 days to ertd.....

bearface... Not in the right position? Oh man, what do I have to do woman? Good lord this baby making lark is a bit finicky isn't it?
I've still got these really weird low down cramps, I've had them since night before last, so gawd knows what's gone wrong.
And I've got an interview on Friday which people are a bit hopeful for me. If I can get into that department I hopefully can start to change certain things, then if I get up duff...??? Oh dear.

hi all just a quick check in as its late and am on my phone which means I can't see your posts while I type!

I have been in the kitchen all afternoon baking cakes for my work colleagues...we all take in cakes for our own birthdays.

Not sure who said what but some thoughts to share...
I think maternity allowance is exactly the same as SMP so whoever was worried about that I don't think its s problem unless you get additional benefits above SMP with Ur employer i looked at this recently for a client...I'm an accountant, please don't throw me out Essie!

someone said ertd is pretty regular but over not. I thought time between over and ertd was always constant in each woman, although obviously different from woman to woman. I could be wrong though.

bear it really sucks about Ur referral. Good on Ur dh for writing though. I'd be in the phone ranting my favourite line is thats not good enough, now what r u going to do about it?! lol

Back to work tomorrow. I never before thought I'd want to be but lately I have been thinking I'd love to be a sahm. when I was younger the idea of giving up the career I worked so hard for was ludicrous to me, now I realise there is more to life.

will try catch up properly tomorrow. night all xx

Morning shaggers... We did it!! Back in the saddle as of last night, courtesy of a bottle of small amount of wine to relax me

Re maternity allowance and SMP the only difference is SMP pays 6 weeks at 90% of salary, other than that its the same.

Fingers crossed re the house Essie it's so stressful moving, even without idiots messing things up for you!

Coffee 6 days to BFP - think positive about these things :)

Welcome Twinkles

Thanks everyone for being so lovely and welcoming :)

Loving the sound of your pimp outfit minion :) imagine me in something similar except white with gold flecks in the fur trim and a white suit with american $100 bills printed on it :)

I also agree with bearface re the cervix, I get something like this quite regular also.

No js'ing last night I'm afraid i fell asleep and left dh to look after the baby will just have to make up for it tonight

Well done rock, yay, she's back in the saddle! Fingers crossed for you.
twinkle any spare $100 bills going free, bung them over my way, I'll put them to good use. cake

Well I donned the doffed the cape last night as him indoors was up really early this morning and was too tired, bless. So I'm hoping we've done enough as it is.

I've still got those twinges in my lower abdomen and now a feeling of itchy rushing in the boobs. Ugh. This is another joy of PMT isn't it?

oooh Minion that sounds promising? I can't even join you with symptom spotting because my body feels like its in hibernation, not felt anything since ERTD arrived 22 days ago. Probably no bad thing though because THE MOVE IS BACK ON!! - woooo! Thanks to our solicitor who is a legend. Cue frenzied packing as I have spent the last two evenings eating icecream trying to forget about it as I'd convinced myself it wouldn't happen til next week. Yay!

coffee we are synchro peeing aren't we? My app says 4 days to go. ERTD due 22/4. Fx for you.

Well done rock, glad to hear you are back on the pony!

lil I always do homemade cakes for my office too on my bday. They are all boys so appreciate them lots! Happy Birthday! [cake smiley]

MrsAVB I feel for you, we've put off ttc so many times because of this and that but sort of got to the point where my worrying about leaving it too late outweighed my worry about it not being the right time, if that makes sense! It's hard but you have to try to take it one step at a time until you know if you've got the job. Fx for poas and for the interview though!

Bear I worry about getting back into work too after dc that I don't have yet are at school, I saw how hard it was for my Mum, so I hope I can manage to keep my hand in too. My company are pretty flexible and I think I'd be able to go part time but obviously progression would grind to an immediate and probably permanent halt!

Hi to humpty, cookie and twinkle hope I have not missed anyone. Love to all xxx

essie I'm not even trying to try to get my hopes up. I'm just putting it down to PMT and anything else is a bonus? But if it is a yes, it's come at a really odd time. I work as an air hostie and as soon as we say we are PG we get grounded into the office, now I have an interview tomorrow for a different dept in the same company doing something I've always wanted to get my teeth into, but if it's a yes siree bob, what do I do? Either way I'll be grounded but I could walk into a job I've wanted to do for a while but have to go on maternity in 9 months.
Gah, maybe I'll strap kid onto me and work like that?

oooh good luck with the interview minion! Lots of job interviews on here atm!

You've got to go for it if its something you've wanted for ages. If you do turn out to be upduffed as well then it might be a bit odd starting a new role grounded and then on mat leave, but if you are planning on going back to work after and the role would work with dc then it might all turn out ok.

It's a funny thing isn't it suddenly having to factor mat leave/dc into your world, despite so much uncertaintly as to how the timing is all going to work. It's hard to know how much to put on hold and how much to just crack on with it all.

Fx for poas and interview though!