TTC 10+ months, Part 11

[buzzybee123]

A very friendly and supportive thread for those taking way longer than they had ever expected to make a baby.

xpost rabbit it is funny about the weight thing. Incidentally, this link says that the issue is that your hormones 'set' at whatever fat level/exercise level you have in your teens, which is why women can be malnourished and still have babies in some countries, but women in the West can lose a few pounds in their twenties and then stop getting periods. It is totally a mental struggle though. I was never anorexic but I was definitely a 'restrictive eater' and had bouts of bulimia in my early twenties.

Oo critter that is interesting. When I'm happy, ibs free and relaxed I level out at about 8 and a half which is what I was as a teenager. I'm consideration under that right now. .

npg welcome. If you hang around here ill be experimenting with clomid feb/march time. We will keep you company.

Ha ha. My posts are mostly non sensical. And I'm single handedly fast forwarding us onto thread 12.

Hello!!! I took 50mg this month. Had one follie measuring 18mm on the thursday and then went back on the tues and they said I ovulated over the weekend. Im now 10dpo on CD 32. I got BFN today though but still hoping theres still a chance x

Fingers crossed for you npg. Are you unexplained?

gin I am so sorry to hear about grandparent and a ill bur baby just adds to the stress and worry

Thanks for the big welcome everyone.
Gin, I've learned a new word with 'crapfest' which really made me smile, so sorry to hear about your grandparent, I can really empathise with it making this whole situation feel worse, I've had similar feelings since Mum. Sorry too about your furbaby (sorry I'm new and I assume that's a pet?) To add to the crapfest of 2012 mine is also ill. I really think 2013 must be a better year all round and for us all. Thanks Lemon for the IUI comment, I wish you sucess this time around - I will deffo be asking for advice in the new year.

Welcome to lissie and npg

Woo hoo for the egg laying Critter. I think you might be right about the weight. When I was a teenager I dieted a bit too hard and my periods practically stopped very briefly. It scared me into eating again. I was very slim through my 20s and I think that caused me insulin resistance problems - my head used to spin if I got hungry and my periods could vary from 3-6 weeks. In my 30s with a BMI of around 21-22, my periods are much more regular and I don't get the insulin resistance symptoms anymore. I think my body thinks this is the perfect weight even if I don't agree when I look in the mirror!

sarlat some people really don't get it, do they? :(
It's good news about the lap date though!

madness he is my friend (although not a very close one). I've never met his wife. I was a bit taken aback by how sad he looked. I said to him "don't tell me that, I've just signed up for another go at IVF" expecting him to say something like "It's bloody hard but I wouldn't have it any other way". But he didn't.

Gin sorry to hear about the bereavement. I need to do a Xmas visit to my gran and she is starting to look very frail. We are not close and I only see her a couple of times a year, so on each visit she looks noticeably older.

I'm feeling very pmt-y today. Still, I've made it to 11dpo, so it means my cycle is looking more normal after last month's very short luteal phase.

Just a very quick hello from me to say hello to newbies, and so sorry gin about the stresses. I prescribe more Rocky Road for you.

Only 4 more sleeps to go. I'm calm yet totally disorganised. Still haven't chosen or written our vows. Not that important though, are they .

rabbit I love to see you chatty! Very interesting on the weight thing critter (hooray for an egg!) - I always hover around 8 stone, though lost a bit at the beginning of last year when I had a very stressful few months with a sick hobble, who eventually died. (Can't remember if I was on this thread at that point). Anyway that was in about months 4-8 of trying. I did go back to 8 stone again though, which is where I am now and always. I once went to 8.5 stone when I was on a long holiday 6 years ago, so my current plan is to try to put on a half a stone on honeymoon when I am not running around after the hobbles all day. It might not make a difference but my hypnotherapist and acupuncturist have both suggested I put on weight, even though my periods are far too fucking regular. Not sure if it's my problem as I have always been slight and was maybe even a bit lighter when in my teens; but I do feel I might be a bit too thin at the moment, despite my best efforts with the Rocky Road. So I am going to increase my calorie intake with .

Anyway I have had very late nights (and I admit a few fights with Mr Nelly, though I'm blaming those on hormones and IVF sadness rather than wedding issues. I am the anti-thesis of bridezilla, having had to calm my mother down today). sar I hope it goes ok at your sisters. We have our own family issues that I won't go into on here. But the day will still be great. Unless anyone does a pregnancy announcement. Still, I'll be pissed and won't care .

Will likely lose internet from Wednesday but will try to read at least.

Just a quick note to say:

Have a fabulous fantastic amazeballs wedding nelly. I might not get on here again today, so had to log in to say that!

And welcome to npg. It is a fab thread, hope you'll get the support you need.

I had some fantastic worknews (which I won't share in detail for fear of outing myself) yesterday. So whether or not this IUI works, December is a good month!

Tail feathers and waves at you all. Hope the last week pre-Christmas is going as fast with all of you as it does for me!

I'm falling behind again! Welcome to lissy and npg they are a fabulous bunch here, but sorry you find yourselves here.
buzzy Go you! You sound so much better. These furbabies weedle their way into our lives and hearts. Poppy has been known to play cherry on top in the middle of things .
sarlat and euro horrid comments.
joyce sorry to hear about your grandparent and the poorly furbaby. This time of year can make family stuff so much harder. Has the furbaby improved?
critter at the egg laying. Well done.
The interesting thing at this end is I got a BFP on Saturday. Can 2 CBs be wrong? Stunned. MrTeu said interesting and that it was rather abstract and that he doesn't get the POAS thing, that he expects a medical professional to confirm. I think I might be in denial.

Oh Teu I was just have a sneaky peak between tasks and I just noticed that there is an Xmas BFP on the thread. No, two CBs can't be wrong. HUGE CONGRATS! Woooooohoooooooo!

As for the rest of you...

Gin so sorry about your grandparent and sick furbaby. You are not barren. You just don't have your baby yet. I am so terribly sorry that your being hit by a shitfest though.

Nelly sorry about your bfn . That wasn't supposed to happen. However, you seem to be coping remarkably well and lots of good things came out of your cycle. Wishing you the bestest wedding ever. Huge advance congrats and hope everything goes smoothly. I loved my wedding and would do it all over again if I could. Have a wonderful honeymoon too.

Sar your sister is just have a wedding temper tantrum. I was terrible before my wedding. We are a shouty family but we get it out there and it's over quickly. We all love each other and we all know where we stand too. Mr P's family are not good at communicating like this with each other and bottle things up to spare feelings. I struggle with this and have encouraged Mr P to be more vocal so I can understand when he is upset with me. I'd hate to think that people thought I was trying to change him for bad reasons. I'm sure she'll be back to her old self after the wedding though. Yay that your op has been scheduled for optimum timing. I'm hoping this is the final hoop you have to get through to get some answers. Also at your friend. Not on. I would have been so angry.

Buzzy you are a changed women! I too am glad I did the life coaching. It really helped me with loads of things in my life. I'm glad it's worked for you too. Oh and glad Kayla is still being super cute. :)

Lemon everything crossed for this round of IUI.

Critter wow wow wow to your egg laying! Great news! You must be thrilled :)

Euro sorry that there is no holiday baby. I thought that it would happen for us after our holiday in summer. I was gutted when it didn't as we were away over ov, we DTD every day (sometimes twice) and we were like, how did we not get pregnant? This is insane! Plus that was the month I had brown spotting and an early period plus some pregnancy symptoms. Cue the next month, where I had to remind DH it was time to get on it, we were both knackered, did it twice near ov, and wham it seems to have worked. So, you never know. I was convinced that I was going to get my period when I was actually pregnant. Interestingly, I had no pregnancy symptoms to start with just low back ache. No metal mouth, no nausea, no sore boobs.... That all came later. Anyway. I know you are moving on to IVF soon but I really don't think you should lose hope. Things seem to be changing for you and you are soooo close now.

On that point, I don't want any of you to lose hope. It will happen. 2013 is going to be a great year. I will come back after winter solstice and start the cheer leading for winter BFPs, because it's still officially autumn and there were a fair number of autumn BFPs on the thread....... just saying And then there is spring when it will warm up and the likes of rabbit will get their sun quota and will start, well, doing what rabbits do best in spring

I have little news. The sickness is moving on and my belly is big. I don't look pregnant I look like I've been hibernating and indulging in too much winter comfort food. I do have some very nice new pjs as I've grown out of all of my other ones. Sadly I can't live in the pjs. But I wish I could. Now all the family know (and I have a huge family) I feel like a pregnant panda. The excitement is heartwarming but slightly annoying too... I am being questioned and prodded and observed and commented on. My uncle thinks that the baby was conceived at one of his birthday parties when we got taken away to the New Forest and then had a swanky night up in London (it wasn't either). He got really excited about this prospect. My Nan keeps ringing constantly for updates. MIL is watching me ALL THE TIME and asking how my morning sickness is each day, I've considered saving a sample in a sandwich bag to show her each day (yes, we are still living with them). People now feel the need to relay graphic horror stories of illness in pregnancy and traumatic child birth stories. And how awful children are. And how we won't have a life next year. And how we're going to be poor. And did I know that pregnant women's teeth fall out. Yadda yadda yadda. ENOUGH ALREADY! I'm actually ready to give up my life and stay at home with sore nipples and piles and possibly no teeth (although my dentist assured me yesterday that my teeth are not about to drop out). I've waited 3.5 years for the humiliation and torture that a new baby and child birth will bring. But apart from that I'm good and looking forward to Xmas. Hopefully I'll be able to eat without being watched and commented on, otherwise, I might take to putting a large Santa sack over my head during dinner.

Our house is nearing completion. Sort of. We got shafted by a plumber (long boring story) and we are behind because of a couple of other set backs (bastard British Gas, bastard plumber...), not to mention DH's kidney stone incident. However, we have new electrics, plumbing will be complete by the end of the week and after Xmas the flag stones can go down which means the bathroom can go in. Two bedrooms are decorated and the whole place is now completely re plastered. I think we'll be in during Feb. FX. I've got so much to do before June, it's starting to get a bit scary that we are still not in and our savings are nearly gone. Eeeeeeeek.

Ah, well waves to all I haven't name checked. I hope you're all ok. I think of you all loads. I'm still waving pom poms from the side line, although I've hung up my cheer leading costume in favour of a large mascot outfit with room for big fat belly and snacks.

Whilst I'm all emotional and Christmassy can I thank you all for your wonderful support this year. It's had some highs but some pretty mega lows too and you all held my hand when I needed it most. I never thought I'd go up to London to meet "ladies from the internet" or discuss EWCM with people on a public forum or even be able to tell my new circle of online friends how my baby was conceived. Whilst I'll actually be quite glad to see the back of this year, some wonderful things have come out of it too. That includes you lot. xxxxxxx

Wow congratulations teu. I love the way you slipped that in at the end of your post. Can you remind me of your story again, what was different this month? What a lovely present in time for Christmas.

Welcome lissie it sounds like you've had a tough time, I'm sorry about your mum.

Welcome too npg. This thread is great! Although, I would quite like to graduate now.

joy the opk story made me smile, although I know it's also tragically sad. I think dh would keel over in shock if I showed him any sort of stick.

I had a panic last night. I spoke to sil and she said something about wanting a baby soon, I couldnt speak. I literally felt myself choke up. This would be an a* annoucnement for me. She's several years younger and hasn't been with her partner that long. But she says she's broody. She has that very naive view that I had at one stage that you can plan a baby. That it will come easily and then life will be perfect. Hearing that innocence really got me. I thought I might have a couple of years before I had to think about her being pregnant, now it seems it might be soon. I know it should t bother me but it does. Massively. I have got really good at accepting friends are pregnant. We have had every annocement possible in 2011 and 2012 so I thought 2013 would be ok. Although there will be second pregnancies no doubt. But sil being pregnant would be unbearable.

But, I will cope with it. It's my baby I want. And it will happen for me. And it will happen for all of us on here. 2013 is our year.

Waves to princess. Thanks for your cheer leading and Pom Pom waving. How manY weeks are you now? Will you find out the gender at 20 weeks?

gin im sorry about your grandparent. Dh has one remaining grandparent and I know it would mean a lot if she were still here to meet our baby, thats looking increasingly unlikely now. I'm also sorry about your fur baby. It's awful when they're sick and we can't do anything to help.

MrsD sorry about the A* potential. I know exactly how you feel but now I'm feeling uber, uber guilty. We found out that Dh's 23yo cousin had had an MC at 10 weeks in August and my first reaction was "ARGH! She's going to have a baby before us". As someone who has suffered 2 MCs I was disgusted at myself for having that reaction. But the thought of her having the first grandchild, having a baby so young, me being the older barren wife of cousin etc etc made my blood run cold. However, she is now in a deep depression, is questioning her relationship / engagement, doesn't want children until she is at least 30 and isn't coping in her job. I feel terrible and we felt really sad telling Dh's aunty that I am pregnant because I knew exactly how my news would stab her in the heart. Your IVF could work out sooner than you think, SIL could take longer than you think, she could even have a set back. Or you could be pregnant together and have little cousins to play together. It's all so personal and tricky. Because of my tantrums over other peoples pregnancies for the past years we've been really cautious about telling some people and it's really taken a shine off our news, as I know it will hurt them. On the other side, I hope that they can also take a bit of hope from our situation?

Oh and I've found out about so many honeymoon instadiffs since I've been pregnant and they're still just as annoying now! Just in case anyone wondered!!

X post MrsD I'm 15 weeks and we don't want to find out what team I'm harbouing. Although I think it's going to be a boy :)

Is it a honeymoon instadiff if I get one? . Going back to what euro said up thread, that'd be what everyone assumes. It's all kind of irrelevant though in my situation. I really need to give up on the miracle-hoping.

Hooray for your pregnancy ticking along nicely princess and for a target move date. Not so good on prying relatives and daft questions and scare stories. Remember plenty of people have perfectly normal birth stories - they just aren't so gossip-worthy.

teu oh my! . Yes, what are your details. I'm very excited for you. Hooray!

mrsden I know the feeling well. I am poring over my wedding list wondering who might announce. I have a suspect.

Right I am procrastinating. Will sneak read later.

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Hi, just popping back on briefly to wish Muddy the very best wedding ever, hope it all goes brilliantly. So sorry about the ivf outcome, but you got so far with it, i'm sure its a good sign that it will all happen for you eventually.

i haven't read back but waves everyone else. am firmly in campville, and will be until well after christmas, and the 35 birthday looming, but i cope best in a one man tent when i feel like this so i won't be posting more just now.

Festive wishes for you all.

cosmos I am so sorry you are still in the tent. Tail feather strokes. I can understand that you want to be alone, but you are always, always warmly welcome here.

teu Woohoo! A Christmas BFP! Oh I am so thrilled for you teu. Right, details! Can you remind us all of your 'journey to diffage'? What utterly lovely news.

nelly have an amazing, beautiful wedding day. You have been such a chilled out bride, and you've had to deal with so much leading up to your wedding. My tail feathers are quivering in anticipation of an ironic honeymoon diff. When do you fly?

princess we have missed your lovely essays, it's so nice to have you back here and hooray for less morning sickness. I can't believe you're in the second trimester already! Boo to horror stories. I have no idea why people feel the need to share terrifying tales - they definitely are the exception and not the norm. at you being a pregnant panda. Sorry to hear about your poor cousin's MC and reaction to it. I think all these emotions are normal - having children is such a primal thing and it brings out strong feeling in us. It's lovely to see your light at the end of the tunnel.

mrsd I know what you mean about how hard it must be to see the innocence in people who haven't started 'trying' and I can imagine that would make you feel really sad. I'm so sorry. But IVF has every chance of working for you and mrd. I really agree that 2013 is going to be our year. It has to be! Our luck has to change.

lemon hurrah for great work news! you sound really chipper, which is fantastic. Fingers crossed for you my lovely.

euro I'm sorry you're feeling PMT-y, but glad that things seem to be settling down with your cycle. This must be a weird time for you, with all the changes and strange symptoms that have been happening lately.

Waves to pout, buzzy, gin, sarlat, rabbit, artemis, lissy and npg, and everyone else I've missed. My temp stayed up this morning, it's making me so happy to see it up there, just like a normal person's chart, hooray! With a lovely ovulation cross at CD160. Shows I am not imagining things. I will be thrilled to welcome AF just after Christmas.

Bloody hell, Teu that's awesome! I'm really pleased for you.

nelly I reckon your honeymoon could be a good place to put on a few pounds. Particularly if there are buffets. It is so difficult not to overeat at a good buffet

cosmos do whatever is best for you, but remember we are here if you need support or company.

Critter hurrah for high temps! When I used to lurk around the Verity boards, I noticed that when PCOSers got ovulating (naturally, or from Clomid) they were often instadiffers or something very close to it. After all, if the fertility problem is lack of eggs, once that is remedied, you should get pregnant in a few months, like the "normals"!

Wow teu that's amazing. What a Christmas present. My fingers are crossed for you lemon and brilliant on the egg critter love the "normals" euro
I've been reading but super busy and a bit stressed, only one more day left before Christmas travel. Aaa not enough time. You know those times where you try to do ten things and thereby not one gets the right attention? On the plus side we've helped hundreds of families arriving from Syria with the basic things they need over the past month or so. I ran out to get a massage for the pain from the accident, I spent the whole time worrying about the work I was missing and trying to work out when I last time I shaved my legs (full body suppose it's high time it wasn't just the chuff getting attention )
joy I did laugh at the OPK/HPT situation, they are hopeless aren't they? pout I know this is back a few days but I did have to check out Kind Girls I think Ken might be in the same porn-taste-camp. rabbit been loving the chat and waiting to see the wedding pics nelly have a brilliant time. Hey princess good to see you and cosmos take care of yourself. Finally welcome lissy and npy.
Can you tell I'm rushing? Sorry, I miss joining in the chat waves to art gin (my old IVF buddies, sigh) and everyone else.

Whoah doll sounds like things have been manic for you. Syrian refugees, talk about putting things into perspective. What an amazing job, although I am sure it's bloody hard work and emotionally draining. You are helping people every day, which is more than I can say for what I do. That is really, really special. Oh, I too had to look up 'Kind Girls' - and thought MrPout's taste was quite sweet although I have to say, I wouldn't have been impressed by finding it on his phone either!

euro at 'normals', love it. I love holiday buffets. We've got our office Christmas party coming up on Thursday, and as we're a small place it'll be proper food, nice cheese plates and grapes and wine at my boss's house- I'm actually really excited about the menu already! Have you got lots of gorgeous Maldivian photos? I think whatever happens in 2013, we need to take more holidays! I seriously can't wait to have ten days off over Christmas.

I spoke to sister critter about the egg freezing thing. She says she doesn't want to freeze embryos as she'd feel strange about it, but she does think she wants to freeze eggs and will look into it this year. She says she is at peace with not having children, although she would like to, and she's more worried about finding a lovely partner than having a baby. I sent her links to the London clinics gin mentioned, and she was really grateful. I'm trying not to talk to her about it too much for fear of the 'crazed look' I mentioned earlier. I don't want to infect her with my stress and craving for a baby if she doesn't have it. Thanks all for your advice on everything. gin the ovarian tissue article was fascinating. Sounds like the technology is fairly new, but how amazing.

evening ladies just a quick post from me, suddenly everything needs to be done this week and there is lots to do

teu wahoo a little kiwi baby, very exciting and I'm so pleased for you

nelly have a fabulous wedding and honeymoon :)

cosmos Big hugs we are here when you need us

doll hope you have a good trip home

critter :) at raised temps

princess good to hear from you

npy welcome to the thread, sorry you find yourself here

mrsd sorry about the potential a+ although she might feel broody, does he?? no guarantee it will happen quickly, you'll be having IVF soon and your own baby :)

euro sorry about the PMT feeling

Well CD13 here and no ovulation, no 2 bars on CBFM and no EWCM, perhaps I have dried up completely , oh well going to put myself on the DE list as its about 5-6 month waiting list overseas, well off to make dinner...............

x posts with critter I am looking into IVM at Create if I get any useful info I'll pass it on I think its about £1000, but I like the idea of not taking any drugs, waiting for them to get back to me