BFP in 2012 Part 2 - step away from the COD and into this thread.

[WhenSheWasBadSheWasHorrid]

We filled the last one so I thought I would start no 2.

What I wanted to say was. Bloody hell kick you sound like a woman on a mission.

I am not trying that route myself. Did the eod, dh not allowed a hot bath and no booze for months and months. It didn't work. For us taking a more relaxed approach seemed to work.

To answer kick's question from the last thread, I didn't use OPKs this cycle.

I had pain for 48 hours mid cycle, which I think was OV pain though. So I have vague dates based on that and previous cycle length.

I prefer the relaxed approach too, When! H2B won't react well AT ALL to pressure. In fact, I reckon I'd get less / no sex that way!

To be honest, we hump like bunnies still. I love our sex life and mostly, DTD EOD is only limited by how late we go to bed. So DTD EOD is largely something that we can do - and I realise that not every one can do that (through time or work issues).

I am so relieved that my hba1c levels are normal. I feel like the past year has just been a joke - they've all pretty much said that the diabetes is why I probably didn't fall pregnant so for health reasons, I have wasted a year.

It's a shitty place to look back on. It's like...trying to have a baby and realising a year later that you forgot to take the condoms off.

That sounds like you are pretty sure when you oved. Never had ov pain myself, I imagine it is annoying most of the time but useful when ttc.

Any sign af is on her way or are the boobs still going mental?

I tried to listen to my body (and normally, I have done)

But I've "felt" ovulation pain and "implantation" pain and "seen" the spotting and definitely seen EWCM etc etc etc

Only, there is no way that I felt any of that since I likely wasn't ovulating and I definitely wasn't implanting. But month on month, I've had the pains and the twinges and the tweaks.

Personally, I don't trust my mind enough to distinguish between something I desperately want to see and something my mind can make me believe after a swim or a 4 hour cycle.

My twinges this weekend were probably literally just the swimming we have done...

That's my own personal experience though.

No AF signs. Mental boobs agogo still!

And there is no way my OV pain was in my head, or in any way not real. 48 hours of pain was very obviously happening! Whether I then successfully OV'd is a different argument.

Sorry - that's why I said mine was my personal experience.

Not knocking or saying anything else but I know that I personally read online about implantation and ovulation and things I had never, ever felt before suddenly became incredibly apparent.

No knocking you, Nicola :)

A friend of mine told me a funny story about a couple who thought they were infertile.

Friend is a GP. The couple were a vicar and his wife both very naive. They came in to see him because they were having trouble getting pregnant. While charting to them my friend thought this sounds a bit odd and quizzed them more than normal.

It turned out the bloke was ejaculating into her belly button the whole time they were married. That's what they thought sex was.

Oh and there was another couple who were trying for over a year. When this GP asked if the man had had any injury or operation on his testes the man said "no, oh well apart from a vasectomy I had a few years ago." (the vasectomy was with an old partner).

Oh dear god...epic sex fail! :-)

Kick the image of your DH with balls in the ice made me giggle!
Forgive my ignorance but what is hca1 level you had to lower?
I think if u have such an active sex life u are giving yourself the best shot. I know what u mean when our minds trick us. Think I'm going through that right now

Hey all

Loved the funny sex stories when

Thanks to all for support and listening.

Have dtd again this evening. Then I lay with legs in the air and burst into tears! Not sure that's the reaction a man wants to see after sex! I've just had a rubbish day as you all know.

Hoping tomorrow will be better :)

Lol I was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 2 months ago and your average of glucose in your blood over the past 3 months is called the hba1c and is a percentage. Mine when I was diagnosed was 15.9%. I think normal should be between 4 - 6% (could be wrong). They are happy with a diabetic to be between 5 - 8%. You have to be under 7% to conceive since a higher hba1c contributes to an increased risk of neural and congenital defects (the neural tube forms in the first 3 weeks). That's why folic acid is so important but I take more folic acid (about 8 times more) than a non-diabetic :)

It's like that South Park episode where the parents are up in arms because the kids don't get sex education at school and it's not up to the parents to teach them

I have had tweaks and pulls and I've told myself it's definitely implantation swimming

Thanks kick. You must have worked really hard to reduce them levels! I can understand your frustration though. Simone could have made things clear to you earlier! U do sound amazingly knowledgeable though. How long have u been ttc?

Over a year now. We've been monitoring for longer than that as well because we didn't want to fall pregnant too soon before we got married (PAH!) so we were careful. Idiots.

I do read a lot and I do a lot of research on things. I tend to hate not knowing anything so I read a lot of the medical journals and get a lot of stats.

It doesn't make me popular - lemme tell you. On top of having every single "pregnancy" symptom under the sun and that all landed up actually just being severe ketoacidosis and nearly dying. Basically

So I don't believe in symptoms anymore... :)

This is a good link to have a read of:

www.early-pregnancy-tests.com/lutealphase.html

ooh new fred.

Still BFN.

Sore breasts have been joined by fat fingers! My engagement ring usually has plenty of movement. Nigh on wedged on my finger and digging in today!

Not a symptom of anything, I'm sure, but annoying all the same. :-/

So no af either then? Are you officially late?

No AF. I've had a 28 day cycle and a 26 day cycle the last two cycles.

So I was due at some point from Sat to yesterday.

Bit annoying, but could just be haywire cycle, I suppose.

Booking my place again after a while away from a computer.

Excellent link - thanks kick.

morning! This is where you all are... I kept checking the old thread and realised it reached a 1000 posts! gosh we can chat :)

I actually laughed out loud at the balls on ice and funny sex stories....haha.
I admire your determination kick and I really hope you don't have to freeze DHs balls ;) and get your BFP this month itself.

I had a good sleep last night - slept like a baby. Was so tired. Must have been all that crying over the olympics and staying up late to watch the closing ceremony. Thanks for your OV and LH surge posts kick - I was reading it and did the math - My LH surge on Sat lasted less than 24 hours. Which means the egg may have dropped on Sunday. We dtd on Fri and Sun so I am hoping we caught it.

Some google sites say when the surge is the highest (i.e. when your line is the darkest - mine was darker than the control line) is when the egg is about to pop. Still intending to dtd when DH is back so we don't rely on OPKs alone.

Ah ha - found you! Leave you all to it for one little evening and you bugger off onto a new fred......

nicola how bloody frustrating for you - are you not feeling even remotely af-like? I really hope the witch isn't just playing tricks on you!

when at the vicar and his wife!

winkle/red hope you're both feeling a bit more positive this morning?

off to read kick's link now....

Kick if you're rewarded for effort in the coming month, you'll be having triplets next May!

Hi kitten, yes, very frustrating!

And no, not at all AF like. It is all very weird indeed.

Maybe my body has decided that a nice regular cycle is overrated!