TTC for 10+ months, part 8

[eurochick]

A friendly, supportive thread for those taking a blooming long time to conceive!

Late night post. Sorry princess that you were upset, OH is right she shouldn't make comments about things she can't possibly know. Glad that you still had a great day and managed to find a way of turning a it hasn't worked to let's do all the naughty things. I treat myself to strong painkillers when AF kicks in lol.
Well seen as AF is hiding we managed to fit in some good times this evening also hoping that might move things along

I am posting to say its 2am and I'm just in bed. . Just been out with a group of 20 people, yikes, most of whom I know and love. We were the only non-parents but all but 1 couple avoided child chat all night. We got pissed, reminisced, talked about maybe going clubbing but we're def too old for that and generally had a great time. So I've come to the conclusion, if we never have kids, I'm going to hang out with my friends who are already way beyond the PFB stage, and are desperate to have fun again .

Also, when I was getting ready, I was drying my hair in my undies and MrN was so overcome with desire (the weirdo),that we had sex up against the windowsill, in the middle of the afternoon. Thank god we only have cows for neighbours .

Just thought I'd share. Don't think there was Jizz leakage though .

Just wanted to say that our kitty is back! She rocked up this morning at 5:15. She was thirsty and starving but she's doing well. I think she must have been trapped somewhere and someone either heard her and let her out or discovered her by accident. We are so relieved.

missm yay your kitty is home! YAY!

nelly yay for fun nights out. And see it is all Jilly Cooper in your house! I hope that does it. Then you can tell us that your bfp is down to sex up against a window! princess thinks to herself that will be impossible in a) the flat before we go - too many passers by and no curtains and b) we have sash windows in the new house and will be in a terrace c) the only way to get the window bfp will be to go to a hotel with appropriate window facilities Go Nelly Go!

Medusa you must be so relieved yey to kitty coming home.
Woah muddy hope you didn't get dye everywhere lol. But well done to still having passion amid TTC crap.
Princess I am with you, in a flat and not sure my neighbours would be impressed lol but if your neighbours are cows they won't complain.
Still waiting on AF and have the huge and really painful boobs today. Feel proper crap. Not sure what's happening to my body maybe it was trying to achieve something this month, but the test was defo artic

Go nelly! Good for you. Glad you had a fun night out and some spur of the moment passion! Maybe a 'super saturday' baby?!

Yay to the return of missm' s cat. You must be v relieved.

Princess I can't believe the acu lady made you feel so rubbish. Someone said a while ago that the drs don't realise that we hang on their every word. It's the same with the acupuncturists, your DH was right to be cross. How the hell would she know what happened? Hope the frenchie food made you feel a bit better.

I don't know about anyone else but the Olympics is making me increasingly lazy! Feeling very bleuh on the metformin too. Has anyone else taken it and how long did it take to feel normal again?

Mrs M - so glad your kitty turned up. Why do cats do these things?? I remember mine use to do this occasionally and caused me stress no end.

Nelly - horray for window antics. Crikey your could give the Amsterdam gang a run for their money. And that's great to hear you had a fab night out with parent freinds! Here's to many more good nights out.

Princess - I am appauled by your accupuncturist. That type of things gives holistic therapist's a bad name. But it just goes to show that your get 'badun's' in every profession. My miscarriage was around heartbeat starting time too and I have never for one moment considered this to be an indicator of genetic problems. In fact I have read it is the most common time for miscarriage as this is when most embryo's / fetus's which aren't going to make it don't continue to develop. I know loads of people who have had 2 miscarriages + who have gone on to have healthy babies.

Bunny - sorry for the soreness and delayed period - all the waiting sucks doesn't it. It is strange how a few of us this month have wondered if something was trying to happen. Maybe we are all getting in sink. Is it worth taking another test? Either way, hope things settle down soon.

I have survived a mummy-baby weekend. Had lunch with a group of girls yesterday and saw a good friend and her 2 month old this morning. To be fair, it wasn't too bad. Plus the friend I saw this morning does have a hard earned baby after 3.5 years of ttc with a miscarriage on the way and severe PCOS. It was the clomid in the end that did it for her - so girls on clomid or similar - take heart .

Although the mummy-baby meet ups remind me of what I don't have (yet ), I certianly have no desire to snatch other people's babies. In some ways I'm not that maternal and don't seem to want to coo over evey little bundle of joy that I am passed. But do not misunderstand me, Mrs Sarlat and Mr Sarlat would just lurrrve to have a baby sar sar.

My freind who conceived after PCOS was such a sweetheart and wanted to hear all about my recent IVF troubles. We jointly came to the conslusion that a lot of fertility and maternity Dr's and nurses unforntunatly do talk bollicks and forget about the woman behind the condition. She told me to stay strong and keep fighting as I do have good chances and lots of reasons to be hopeful. This applies to us all. Keep fighting - don't forget, fighting can mean finding time away from TTC and intervention. Fighting is about finding peace - whatever that might be. Sorry to be sentimental - just wanted to pass on some positive vibes which my freind gave me before I go back to being madam misery.

Oh - Princess, I too am heading french side very soon. Really can't wait for the wine, the brie, the pate, the chilled evenings too.

Oh and Care - I really like your olympic analagy (sp?) for TTC. We have a 10 month ttc+ event all of our own. Starts with a gentle stroll but then moves quickly on to a few tricky hurdles followed by the the long jump, the high jump and the can't jump. Rounding off with a soul destroying butterfly race, anger releasing shot put and then finally 100m sprint. Some gold medals ain't easy.

Sarlat your right I do think the medical profession forget that we are people who worry and panic and therefore, great tact, sensitivity and well thought out conversations would be very helpful

Evening everyone. Glad to have amused you all with my Amsterdam style antics . If it ends up being a winning month, I'm definitely choosing Olympic names. Andy Murray Nelly maybe

Sorry for the confusion going on bunny. Hope it all resolves itself one way or another soon. As if it wasn't all difficult enough. Olympic challenge indeed.

missm I am so so so happy to hear your cat came back, I have no idea why they do this sometimes. Naughty naughty kitty. Our stowaway is still hiding behind the woodshed. It came out to eat and immediately crawled all over me for cuddles, it's so sweet but skin and bone, it's either been dumped or really got lost. It's terrified of my cats, not surprisingly as they haven't been exactly welcoming!

sar that's great your friend was so supportive. It's so important to have someone to give you a leg-up when you need it.

Loving the Living the French way plan. Brie and wine were both consumed in plentiful quantities by me last night.

Glad to hear you have been shagging in the window nelly, good work. princess what nonsense on the acu lady, sorry you had to hear that bollocks. sarlat I also had a very baby-ridden weekend and some conversations i'm still trying to process. I will be back here to report and hopefully receive your collective words of wisdom. The weekend was also a little French, well actually totally wine soaked so I'm looking to clean up my act for the coming (boring) weekdays. I learnt last Friday that my internet problem is not with my connections in the flat nor with the provider but with a cable "internal to the buliding", I don't know what that means but it doesn't sound good......

Well finally have a bit of spotting so looks like AF is on the way at least 5 days late grr

sorry bunny the long drawn out cycles are a nightmare. 5 days, that really is late. Wow, must have done your head in. Sending hugs.

Morning all

I'm back... had a lovely holiday which is already fading into distant memory as they always do. Spent a few days getting over crap journey home, dealing with the inbox, watching super fit people achieve marvels on the telly and catching up on here. What brilliant news Ladygee!! Massive congratulations, it's fantastic to hear it can happen naturally after all this time and with so much seeming to be against you. I bet it is all a bit scary and unreal still but I have everything crossed for a sticky bean and trouble free pregnancy. Woop woop!

Lots has been going on since I've been away and I have read back but haven't a hope of remembering everything. I'm sorry if I miss anything important!

Pout how are you feeling now with the clomid? I had the same side effects as you, though the first month was the worst. The constant weeing did my head in! I'm sure you won't have needed the trigger shot. Are they doing a post ov scan/ 7dpo blood test? You should be able to see the corpus luteum on the scan and the bloods will show you have definitely ovulated & put your mind at rest.

Care best of luck with the IVF cycle. I would have gone for 2 embies as well, though it would have involved a fight with Mr A as twins are his worst nightmare. I would rather have two than none!

Rabbit sorry to hear you have been in a hole. It sounds like you need some time off the prodding and poking to let your mind and body heal. I am impressed with the yoga. I never got the hang of it but the classes I have done have been generic beginner yoga and I suspect not very good.

Sarlat well done on being insistent with the docs. Why don't these people ever listen? It made me really cross reading about your appointment. I don't get broody over other people's kids either, I just want my own.

Sorry to hear about BFN Buzzy and late AF Bunny. That's miserable. Hope you are starting to feel better.

MissM glad the kitty has returned! Ours is old and sleeps a lot. I find myself checking her breathing. Oh what a neurotic mother I would be!

Nelly you win the gold medal for adventurous shagging! I'm not even going to suggest the shagalympics. I would be nowhere in the chandelier-swinging event though I would be a contender for gold in the 'FFS, is it shag week again' category

Princess glad you had a lovely anniversary weekend. Sounds like cancelling the acupuncture is the right thing to do - no point in continuing if you don't have confidence in the practitioner. They have a lot of knowledge but they are not medical experts and shouldn't talk to you like that.

Frannie I too had a childish snigger at the jizz chat . And I too am regretting a 'just get on with it' comment to Mr A. I didn't mean every bloody time

Euro good that AF arrived but a bugger about having to delay the appointment.

Not much happening here. I had been hoping to get the HSG test done this month. What was I thinking? I had a stressful day making phone calls back and forth while up a Greek mountain and the conclusion is they refused to do it because CD10 is the last day they perform the test and I wasn't back from hols until CD12. I rang back and argued that i'm never going to have it done if the window of opportunity is always so tiny but the consultant says no. The same consultant who bangs on about 'no time to waste' because of my age. I had a big meltdown up said Greek mountain (poor Mr A didn't know what to do) and a few days of feeling very down but have pulled out of it since, though I really don't know what I'm supposed to do next. Give it one more month and then get it done privately I guess. We have our next consultant appointment in about 5 weeks and at that point they will put us on the IVF waiting list - in my cynical moments I think the consultant has no intention of doing the HSG as he has already written me off as needing IVF. I think I need some time off actively ttc, despite age panics etc. After all that stress was over I relaxed a bit on hols, enjoyed sff rather than to a timetable - I've no idea when I'll ov without clomid, haven't been temping or OPKing but I doubt we'll have caught the window so I shouldn't be mentalling this month. Just need to try to live a normal life for a bit having realised I no longer remember what that feels like!

I need to do some more inbox-wrangling. Waves to akuabadoll (love new name), joycep, lemon, Mrsden, have I forgotten anyone? Nice to be back

Morning ladies,

I'll be quick because I've just done my to do list and I've got a helluva lot to do before hols next week and moving out. Completion date is set at 31/08/2012. We have a little more wriggle room but not a lot. So Princess Monica has just done the Daddy of all to do lists. The washing in on, I'm sorting my work load (puney), the husband has been packed off to the house.... Oh and ERTD is here, which means I've had two months of a 28 day cycle. And there's no pain this morning. I'm convinced it's to do with the brown diet and the vits. I've been a bit lax on the old diet and vits. A few wines last week and last night (no more than 2 glasses though) and this has to be knocked on the head. I'm going back on the straight and narrow (well until the Blur gig on Sunday anyway, oh and then there's the holiday...)

Bunny sorry that ERTD is here. Snap. Mine woke me up in the middle of the night. Grumbly pains accompanied by a very weird dream. I'm not in any pain this morning, which is weird, usually it's full on cramp central now. I hope you are feeling ok and not too blue. Still at least it's here now and you can look forward to a new cycle.

Doll there you are! Sorry to hear about internet woes. Ah the joys of communal living. We have a leak in our building, in a pipe somewhere and every time the water builds up, it overflows under our neighbours sink and leaks into the office below. To the point where the fire service and council are called out because the neighbour isn't there at the moment and muggins here has to sort everyone out. I had 4 fireman in my flat the other week (one up a ladder coming into my front room through the window whilst I was cooking dinner, 2 through the front door, one milling around in the corridor threatening to bash the neighbours door in). DH saved the day with his knowlegde of where the isolation tap for the flat was. The fireman were very impressed! Still no news since last Monday, so they must have sorted it now. I hope you get sorted soon. I'm worried about your geographical location though... I hope you are ok. I hope you are ok after the baby / mummy weekend. I would not have coped with that at all!

Sarlat and muddy glad I have some buddies enjoying the french food sans guilt! The oysters we had were fantastic. I obvs can't have brie because it falls into the dairy bracket but that's fine by me.

Sarlat Well done for surviving Mummy and Baby meet ups so well. And yay for your brilliant friend. You're right about the medical profession (and stupid accu lady - still ab it about that and I'm also at myself for agreeing to see her and believing in her hype despite how poo she made me feel)

Care I hope you get your medal soon. I'm booked in to see the lady at Dolphin Clinic (where my reflexologist is too) on Saturday. I sent her a long email explaining my situation and how emotionally fragile I feel after everything and the bad phone experience with Yvonne. It's probably TMI for her but I want to feel understood. I'm not weak and pathetic. I'm just sensitive about all of this because of the importance it holds. Thank you so much for what you said and your recommendation. Hope you are doing ok. When do you test? xxx

Frannie the Olympics makes me feel like a total lamo. A bit like being back at school again. I was embarrassingly bad at all sports (except long jump, weirdly). Plus I couldn't see because I refused to wear my glasses after one of the bigger more developed chavvy girls threw a basketball at my face in year 8 (on purpose) and bent my glasses, leading to massive amounts of teasing all day (cross, geeky, hormonal, chubby teen in broken glasses was too much to handle week in week out for the next 4 years of my life - so I played sports like a mole). Anyway, we've watched loads of sport in awe over the weekend. We don't usually watch sport, but my god, how quick was Bolt last night?! And how good was Farah? And how inspirational Ennis? And we got tonnes of gold medals! I was like, urgh, track and field, Bo-hooooor-ring and then we got into it and found ourselves whooping and doing our own commentary on Saturday and watching more on Sunday. Oh and we had dinner in bed because I sold our front room over the weekend. So it was bit Wayne and Waynetta Slob, eating dinner (M&S - everything else was closed by the time we got home from the renovations), drinking wine, laying in our pants (soooo humid), me with crazy hair (arms hurt too much to blow dry hair so left it to do it's own thing), shouting nonsense at sports on the telly. And then watching TOWIE. Sunday Guilty Pleasures! Sorry the Metformin isn't agreeing with you. Are you feeling better today?

Euro how are you feeling? Does everything feel back to normal?

Waves to everyone else. Oh and Artemis - where are you?!

Well I'm glad that the PMS doom has cleared. Euro you were so right! Literally just vanished. No bad thoughts. AF you are so welcome! I'm looking forward to hols next week, the house is coming along and I'm utterly beside myself with excitement that we're seeing Blur on Sunday! Woooo-hooooo.... I've waited to see them for 16 years. I watched the Glasto 2009 gig on the sofa, with a can of lager (not very Princess like but made me feel a bit more like I was at a festival) after the first MC the night before I went back to work. All I could say was, I wish I was there and was very glum. And NOW, I get to be there, no MC and going on hols the next day :) Good things do come to those who wait! And here's to the start of a fresh cycle. Shag week = holiday week FX for me for a Mallorcan mountain baby! I'm also totally excited that we are going to have a mountain picnic with donkey's and spa treatments and then to Palma for a few nights and beach action. First accu on Saturday. Am I building myself up for a massive fall? Probably! Still I can't help but take this feeling and try and hold it and try and not be so miserable next time and remember that it's just rubbish old hormones. I'm not temping either esp as shag week is on hols. I want to be thinking about breakfast, sun bathing, how I'm going to laze away the hours of the day and not about my temperature and TTC first thing in the morning.

Anyway, I said this was going to be short - eek - I massively lied and got carried away! Love to you all and thank you for being so kind, supportive and wonderful over my gloomy time. You're all lovely and wonderful and inspirational ladies

X post Artemis yay you are back! Sorry to hear about your palava with the consultant whilst on holiday. That's really, really crappy. You can be my appointment buddy as my next one is in exactly 6 weeks. I was really hoping to be pregnant so I didn't have to see him again. Maybe you will be too?! Anyway, hope your hols were lovely, glad to hear it was all about SFF and that the inbox trauma isn't too bad. We missed you! xx

Pout ? sorry you have the mood problems as well. Bloody awful. Also i seem to recall you have more follies on one ovary than I have in total so I am pretty sure your amh will be just fine. I am sure your body did what it was suppose to over the weekend and released the triplets.

Nelly ? the financial pressure is very hard and adds to the stress. I remember one journalist writing how she didn?t regret ivf but she did resent it. I find it difficult to get my head around how most people spend a couple of quid on folic acid and that?s how much it costs them to get pregnant yet i have spent over 500 on pregnacare vitamins alone. Anyway, it sounds like you have had a raunchy weekend..a.s someone has said, very Jilly Cooper!

Buzzy ? so sorry you have been so upset and down. The drugs sound awful. Hope mrbuzz has been looking after you .

Sarlat ? i?m not sure i?ve noticed the pity. I?m acutely aware that people i haven?t told about our issues know about them though through friends. I feel terribly self conscious when i talk to people who know about it through other people. I am glad you had a chat with a supportive friend this weekend. There is no stopping the doom and gloom though, it really can creep in at anytime.

Bunny ? sorry about af. What a head fuck to keep you waiting like that. It?s so cruel.

Euro ? urgh sorry about the pregnancy announcement. It rubs salt in the wounds when the couple haven?t been particularly healthy either.

Princess ? that acupuncturist sounds awful! why would she be called the baby stork when she behaves like that. Please don?t listen to anything she said and find someone who is more compassionate. I?m glad you celebrated your bfn in style...sticking 2 fingers up to it is sometimes the best way to deal with things.

Care ? i love your Olympics analogy and i was actually watching the Olympics and thinking the same thing when i saw people who missed out on the gold medal. They put their life on hold and work so damned hard for years and years and when they miss out on the gold it must be devastating. All that work for nothing. But Katherine Grainger is a good example of someone who never gave up and she got there in the end!

Missm- fab news about kitty reappearing. I wonder where she had got to.

I had a nice girly weekend. My friends had a put a fertility Buddha on the beside table for me which i thought was so sweet. I practically made love to it . One of my friends is in the early days of trying and i knew that this would be the last weekend we would ever have like that as it won?t take her long to get pregnant. I found it difficult telling them what was going on with me as whenever i talk about it my voice begins to crack. They were good friends about it though. But i was so envious of the friend who was trying as she said she knows that it could take 6months or so to get pregnant. That optimistic innocence was so difficult to hear as i use to be like that. And of course i wouldn?t want any of my friends to struggle but sometimes i just wish i had a friend in all this.

Welcome home Artemis

bunny sorry about AF. grrrr.

pout I almost never get a positive OPK stick. I just go assume the surge happens when I see it getting significantly darker than the other ones. I think it's the change in darkness that means something rather than how dark it is. If you're good and drink lots of water, that would like affect it. Also, your base LH levels might just be a bit lower in general. Many women will always have at least a faint second line on their OPKs throughout the month so for them the line should probably get darker than the control when the surge occurs but for me, most of the month I don't get a line at all so I assume when I do get a line, even if it isn't as dark as the control, that I'm having the surge. My temperatures, more or less, confirm that to be the case as well. I also agree with princess that once you have your surge it seems to die off quickly. That said, last month I had 4 strong positives in a row but last cycle was the failed/delayed OV cycle for me and possibly my body shot out excess LH just to make sure I OV'd at all after failing earlier in the cycle. Will be interested to see what happens this month.

Nelly I'm chuckling at the idea that our kitty could have traipsed across the continent, swam the English Channel and some how made her way to your place up north. I wouldn't put it past her though, she has a lot of explaining to do and has been grounded at least until we get back from holiday. Hope the kitty you found finds a home soon, I can imagine how scared it is. :)
I always thought that the pre-cum doesn't have any sperm in it. Not sure why I thought that though. I think maybe we were cautioned about it so we wouldn't rely on the pull out method. Anyway, I'm getting jealous of your sex life. You are a very lucky lady.
I'm so glad you had such a nice evening. It's so easy to forget to do these things and to be able to just let go and enjoy yourself.

buzzy sorry about the sadness. Take some comfort in that you have had a BFP and look forward to your iui. Sounds like a few of us will be in that boat together. Fx for follies :)
Just a question, how much does IUI cost for you where you are?

princess love your fench BFN celebration! Also, I agree with the acupuncturist now knowing what she's talking about. At best, it's a guess and not a particularly good one.

care I like your olympics analogy. We WILL get our medals!

princess regarding diet and cycle. I have found that my cycle is more regular and my AF much, much lighter when I'm maintaining a healthy weight, eating healthy and exercising regularly. Unfortunately we (DH and I) let ourselves go badly this past year and my AF is the heaviest it has been since I was a teenager. I can't be certain about the cycle lengths as I hadn't been paying as much attention as I am now but I feel like it was a pretty regular 28 day cycle. We're back to being healthy again but unfortunately the repercussions of last years transgressions take a while to overcome. I hope very much that things will go back to how they were last year. The main thing I learned from last year is that the goal shouldn't be to be perfect all the time. That requires so much mental strength and when things happen that sap that strength you can't do it anymore (that was our last year). Now I'm a little more relaxed, trying to see this as a lifetime commitment to being healthy and not just a short term weight loss solution. Hopefully I've got it now.
Enjoy your holiday!

Skipped a baby shower this weekend. We were planning on going and even bought a gift but I fell out with a friend the night before and with the missing cat stress I didn't want to deal with it. I feel badly about it now that kitty is back and I'm in a much better state but nothing I can do now. We're not that close anyway so I don't think it will be a big deal to her.

Kitty coming home has given us a fresh perspective. It's made me appreciate the things that are going well in my life now. Yes, there are quite a few big things that aren't working at the moment but there still are some that are and I need to enjoy them because you never know when they're going to be taken away from you too. I am feeling positive and looking forward to this holiday and the quality time with DH so much. We really came together in our grief over missing kitty and it reminded us a little about how lucky we are to have each other.

Nelly as a londoner I am in awe of you windowsill antics. We have far too many close neighbours to contemplate such a thing!

MissM I am so glad the kitty returned.

Princess grr@your acu lady. How unhelpful?
I am not feeling too bad. I'm on CD 3/4 now, so past the hormonal mood dip (I'm glad you are too ). I feel like I normally do at this point in the cycle, but I just have everything crossed for ov in 10 days' or so time so I know that I am back in working order. I will temp to check.
I will look out for you at Blur!

Artemis sorry that you have to let another month go by with no HSG.

euro glad you are feeling ok and normal for your cycle time. This is fab news. I have every faith that your eggs will stick one out in 10 days time and soon everything will be back to normal. Bodies are frustrating, uncontrollable but ultimately wonderful and resilient things (a bit like husbands in that respect).

Oh yes, I forgot you were going to see Blur. I'm sooooooooooooooooooooo excited. I'll keep my eyes peeled for you too! I've just made the plan for getting there. Complete nightmare finding which bit of the park we're supposed to enter through. Found it tho, near Marble Arch. So our journey is super simple. Other slight complication being that we are staying at Gatwick that night and flying on hols the next morning and then I had a freak about where to leave our passports safely. However, I now realise that it's doors at 2 and blur at about 9ish and it's all over by half midnight. So we have got time to check in bags at 2pm and safely put passports in the hotel safe and get to the gig and not miss blur. And breathe. Now to decide what to wear. It looks like rain. Hunters it is then! Can you tell I'm excited?! Oh and they're being ridiculously strict about what you can and can't take in the park. Which I can understand. But they have a no food policy?! I seriously hope they have brown snacks available! They say that they have a wide range of foods to suit different tastes available, drinks including champagne and cocktails... hello! Blur and cocktails and holiday the next day and potentially enforced non brown snacks and Blur keels over in excitement overload

Nelly at the windowsill goings on.
Buzzy sorry things are crap. So unfair.
Princess hmm, not a very helpful lady. Glad MrPrincess is so good to you.
MissM yay to kitty's return. Don't they know we worry?
Sorry I've missed so many others. By the time I get here I can't remember what all I've read. I know some have been having very down times, hugs, and that ladyg got a BFP - more please!

Went AWOL to lick my wounds in private. Another fail; very homesick; mentalling over all the things that might be against a mini Teu. So CD11, OPK +ve 2 days earlier than expected, cycle length nearly back to what it was pre-pill (10+ years ago), but lighter than it has ever been . MrTeu started this week really game but has now decided that he is tired (but can sit up to watch StarTrek.) Got that weird fluttering this morning. I've never had it before, but that's definitely what it was. Bizarre.

Yay to artemis being back and yay to Blur, and to normal looking cycles for euro. And slightly less madness on the house move princess. Lovely to hear from you as well teu, I wondered where you were.Sorry to hear you were so down though.

I see Jilly Cooper is researching a new book, must be cos I inspired her . Our sex life is usually decent, just a little more routine! It is ironic that it got better since our TTC woes started, as it normally works the other way. But we were so lazy before and now make sure it happens, whereas in the past we've frequently gone weeks . Anyway I knew I was marrying him for a reason .

We had a good chat on Saturday about what life with kids would be like. We talked about our hobbies and what aspects of our life we wanted to work hard at maintaining vs those we were happy to change. It was nice because for the first time in a while we were saying "when" not "if". Long may the positivity continue. Tomorrow is our first official appointment at the IVF clinic so we will see how we feel afterwards.

Oh missm whoops I knew you weren't in Scotland but forgot you were overseas . Check your kitty for midgie bites if you want to check she wasn't here! Our stowaway will stay with us if we can't find his home; unless our cats don't settle in which case we will find him somewhere awesome to live. I can't bear to think that he was dumped.

Teu hello! I thought we hadn't heard from you for a while. So sorry that you've been feeling down and home sick. Sorry that DH is being dismissive of shag week too I've my fingers crossed for you this month. Cycles returning to pre-pill likeness is good news too.

Muddy so glad to hear that you are feeling much more positive and that this is bringing you together. So pleased to hear that :) Does the appointment tomorrow also mean that it's your birthday tomorrow?

MissM I'm glad that missing kitty has brought you and your hubby closer together too. That's lovely. I'm sure you can patch things up with your pal as well. Everyone skives at some point. Try not to worry.

In other news, the outfit for Sunday is purchased and on it's way to me :) I love ASOS I'm so nearly organised for going away! Yay! And last load of washing is on. Suitcases will be packed later and that way Mr Princess can't start digging out his holiday clothes before we go away. He always forgets what he has to wear if it's not right in front of him!!

Self indulgent post.
Cramps have gone feel like my period is over and still only a tiny amount of spotting not enough to use anything. Very confused to say the least