No Symptoms, No Google, No sticks

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Due to overwhelming monthly disappointments, a few of us have decided to go the traditional route.

Coupled with that, we know that one CAN'T have pregnancy symptoms unless one is ACTUALLY pregnant and that only actually happens after implantation. Which is normally about 10DPO then it takes a couple days to show up in the urine etc etc so pregnancy symptoms can only really be felt at about 13DPO.

The purpose of this thread is three fold:

• Support in TTC (mostly for first-timers)
• No symptom spotting allowed AT ALL
• Trying to exclude sticks (but we know that sometimes they're necessary)

So this will be practical application of theories and science.

We pledge to be honest and open and practical.
We pledge to give utmost support to each other in our struggle TTC
And we pledge to not give false hope or support symptom spotting until well after 13DPO

Morning ladies, and welcome to lastbox and kff :):)

red are you maybe going to possibly do a sneaky little POAS today?!

morning kitten you got yourself a cuppa ?

I am so tempted to, but reading a lot of stories on previous threads (countrykitty and mrsbugsy) I think I am going to give it time and wait till a few days after AF.

Besides kicking your sensible advice always rings in my ears - if I am pregnant, its not going anywhere.

Early testing may just result in disappointment and money down the drain (quite literally!)

lastbox

I did mean to reply last night but was on my phone and its just rubbish.

Sorry about the troubles... I can't imagine how hard that must have been.

We've been trying for 9 months but if I look back very honestly, we're only really in a position now to be able to enjoy a pregnancy. Financial isn't an issue but we've had a bit of a move and got married 6 months ago and and and... It would have been most welcomed at any point but I am honest with myself about my DH and I being in a completely happy and settled emotional state now.

I know it doesn't alleviate any of the sadness but it does help to accept it and move on.

Anyway - WELCOME and have wine!

What's happened with CountryKitty and MrsBugsyWugsy? Have I missed something?

No you haven't missed anything, just meant that they waited to do the tests till after AF had arrived and lately most people who have had BFPs have waited till a few days after AF to test and got them.
So I am just being superstitious and not jinxing it by testing before AF

Ah gotcha. It's definitely the more logical thing.

It's the first (and only) early pregnancy sign anyway.

Missing AF.

I had a dream last night that my office got together and decided that I looked like a pig. With a piggie nose and everything.

They just assumed I knew so they were all laughing when they told me

Awww thats mean! Did you read Animal Farm before bed time?

ummm kicking did you eat cheese before bedtime?! :) I'm sure you don't really look like a pig haha!

I have indeed got myself a cuppa red, although I am liking kickings style of offering out the wine to newcomers at 9am :o

EXCELLENT dedication to the staying sensible cause btw....I'll keep my fingers crossed that AF stays away for you.

My sister in law found out she's pregnant this morning....so I am very :o but also a little bit

Totally understand kitten I had 2 of my best friends announced their pregnancies last week and I felt happy for them and ecstatic, but I wished I could have said "So am I"

I didn't realize this baby thing would make me feel this way but I just want to be a mum :'(

I only had some chicken and tomatoes for dinner. I was actually quite good with food yesterday - nommy salad for lunch.

Does anyone follow the fertility diet? I am not convinced it's much different to what I do now but I'm intrigued.

I did even read my book last night - but I am reading Pride and Prejudice anyway and there are no pigs in that! :D

I have to say, I get very green when people are pregnant. All three of my brothers have girls now (hope I am in line for the boy!). My oldest has two, second oldest had his first in Feb and youngest had his first in March. ALL girls!

Confession I even spew a little bit of jealous nastiness to pregnant people when I see them mincing around with their bellies... (they don't see me - its in my mind)

I'm glad we're not alone in being all of pregnant friends relatives and strangers! Most of mine have one now so am hoping I manage one before they start on their second or third!

I'm SO jealous and haven't even started trying yet! Irrational much?!

Just got to beat my SIL who I don't get on with, ha ha!

Yeah i'm pretty much last of all my friends too pinkie, plus I have hordes of nieces and nephews so i get a fairly regular barrage of

"so, are you going to have kids soon?"
"surely it must be your turn next"
"you'd best get a move on, you're not getting any younger haha"
"don't you want babies then?"

I wouldn't mind but

a) I'm only 32 and recently married
b) It's none of their damn business
c) What if we were already or (god forbid) end up having fertility problems?

So I do get a bit fed up with that.....sorry, random rant there!

kicking I also have a little jealous grumble to myself - there just seem to be bumps and babies everywhere i turn at the moment!

i've not heard of the fertility diet, is it supposed to be good then?

Oi!! NO GOOGLE!!

I am 30, recently married.
I also tend to just tell em all to shut up - I say that we've BEEN trying for 9 months and then I give them that "I am going to punch you in the face" look at they shut up.

Fortunately, no one has said the "you're not getting any younger" thing to me but watch the papers if they do!

Amazing how the media has terrified us into believing that once we hit 30, it's a downhill slide into pregnancy. My mate was on the pill and just broken up with a boyfriend at 37 - being a nurse so around radiology and drank like a fish and fell pregnant.

No-one knows we're trying but I think it's so rude when people say 'why don't you have any kids?' I really want to snap that it's not that easy for some ppl! I know I'm only on cycle 4 but honestly assumed that it would happen straight away given the amount of 'accidents' you gear of

I really think that chances of conception are totally individual to the person / people trying. No 'rule' works for everyone, so I am just going to try to work around whatever my body decides to do! And fail miserably if it's too slow for my liking, ha ha.

Very true Nic! I'm just so of those who fall 'accidentally' then do nothing but complain about it, imo if your that worried about not falling pg you use the pill/implant etc and condoms just to be on the safe side

Hello familiar faces! Just come across this thread and definitely need to join too - no symptom spotting this month either! Have ditched the OPKs, I suspect OV will be some time this week but no idea when so going to just try as much dtd as poss and see what happens!

I'm another one who constantly gets asked when we're going to have a baby - surely because we're married and settled we MUST be having a baby soon?! Feel like shouting "WE'RE BLOODY TRYING ALRIGHT, NOW EFF OFF!!"

People who don't try and then complain about it annoy me too.

I even know people who fell pregnant to spite the blokes they were with.

It's mad that there is a whole world of women who desperately want to fall pregnant and there are women out there who really should have had their ovaries removed at birth.

I am on CD9 today. Blimey where did they time go?!! I feel like EOD isn't enough. Does anyone else feel like that?!

We've already got one DC but he's nearly three so I'm getting lots of from people. As in when are they going to have a second???

I think you all are my soul sisters - Red you mentioned poas early is money down the drain - I've been going on on all of the other threads I'm on that it's like peeing on a £5 note! They think I'm kidding, but I'm serious!

And how's this for jealousy - just when I mc'd my first pregnancy both my brother and DH's brother - both our only siblings - announced that they and their wives were expecting too, both "accidents" Our due date was 4 Oct and both of nieces were born in mid-Oct. Needless to say it was a difficult time. :( but, you know, Kicking it was a similar situation with us in that in hindsight we wouldn't have been ready to have a baby then. When DS arrived we were much better prepared in terms of our living and financial situations.

Yes definitely kicking - you think that eod for 2 weeks sounds like a lot but its only like 7 times of dtd, and one of those times is supposed to make you pregnant?!

I know a lovely couple who have been trying for years to have a baby and have about 4 failed ivf attempts behind them too so far. They'd be wonderful parents to a much wanted baby. Then theres people who seem to get pregnant at the drop of a hat and don't appreciate what they've got.

Oh and I meant to say lately I'm at people who are so much less prepared to have a baby getting up the duff. I'm not the slimmest, healthiest, richest, etc person in the world but I'm pretty saint like in terms of the general population. Sometimes if I don't keep it in check I feel like I might start wailing "but it's not faaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrr!" :)

I know exactly what you mean lastbox - I got pregnant by accident a long time ago near to the start of my relationship with DH. It was a shock but we were happy and looking forward to having the baby. But I lost it at 9 weeks unfortunately. When I look back I do think how different my life would be now if the baby would have born - would me & DH have lasted the distance? Would I be in a completely different job? I was still at uni when I got pregnant - would I ever have finished my degree? We had no money back then and no stability. Makes me wonder. But what will be will be. When we lost the baby we decided to wait until we were more 'ready' until we tried again. Then we waited years! So we obviously were nowhere near ready at the time. Another thought though - when do you know that you are actually ready to be a parent? We really want a baby and we're settled and financially secure etc, but the thought of all that responsibility still scares the shit out of me!!

Well, Queen it was completely practical with us - we were in the middle of an extension on our flat with our savings completely wiped out because of it. 9 months later we were much better off.

Right now I'm kind of freaking out about a second - will I be able to handle two, how will I love another as much as DS, how will I give both enough attention. And that's not even mentioning the anxiety I have about keeping them safe or bringing children into a world whose outlook and future seems so bleak so much of the time... But I think it's one of those things that I think you just shut your eyes and plow on through and think about the consequences afterward. Dn't think anyone would have kids if they didn't!