Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the shiny new baby-friendly MOSH PIT.

[MarthasHarbour]

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

marbles I'm sorry to hear that you're still feeling rubbish,I really hope that those doctor types will sort your pains and maladies out. Meanwhile,I think you're decision for another duvet day is the best. Snuggle up and box set the day away. I can not recommend The West Wing enough for escapism and making days fly by! I just finished my book this morning, stayed in bed and relaxed,it felt very therapeutic. Really hope you feel better soon,thanks for the heads up on Sheeran,I am staying away from everything like that at the moment.

grumpus our local hosp doesnt seem to have a EPU, just a 'one stop shop' for all things preggy related. So when i had my MC i was sat (in a wheelchair in my pj,s with scraggy hair, no make up, tears in my eyes after having no sleep in the ward the night before) in the ante natal waiting room surrounded by all the happy lovely baby bumps waving their scan pics in the air in glee

thing is, when i get preggy again i will have to go to that same waiting room for my scan, i will make bloody sure i am sensitive to anyone who looks remotely like they are being scanned for a MC.

marbles will make sure i dont see that youtube clip! yay for a duvet day

thanks martha and grumpus im snuggled up on the couch in my onsie( its so cosy) watching greys anatomy and home renovation programmes i also have apple pie and custard to share and to hell with the fact that its 11am

martha our local hospital doesnt have an EPU either...we have gynae emergency- not a nice place and its where i MCed my first and was aggressively "interrogated" by a junior doctor about my dates and what i had done to cause my MC i was 20 years old, very upset and distraught and losing ALOT of blood. she asked my BF at the time to leave the cubicle (i MCed behind a curtain on a bedpan) and asked me how far along i really was as the "products" dont measure right for my dates i stated i had sex on X date, i got a positive test on X date i have had sex once with 1 man during that time period, the man whom i was currently with (we had broken up not long before i found out i was preg) by my reckoning i was no less than 14 weeks and by my LMP i was 14+2/3 she stated the 'foetus' measures at 12-13 week size. have i been drinking heavily or taking drugs to cause this? etc it was the most horrifically traumatic experience i have ever been through and it is where i would have to return for monitoring if i ever get far enough in a pregnancy again and have issues i am going to push for one to one treatment from my consultant in the RMC unit though as i cant imagine ever feeling comfortable visiting that place (i had a panic attack when i had to go there at 12 weeks with DD as i had cramping and felt rotten (UTI) and DH had to practically drag me in)
wow that was a bit long winded sorry...the point is i completely understand...

marbles that sounds like a wonderful breakfast. The few weeks leading up to Christmas,I had a warmed mince pie with a dollop of clotted cream on top every morning. I felt guilty for about half a second then very pleased with myself for the rest of the day. I watched Grey's Anatomy last night and threw a book at OH when he said 'this is the worst show ever made'. Sadder than playing 3 hours of Halo with 16 year olds in Germany? I think not.. It is the ultimate guilty pleasure. Feel better my love (chugs the custard with gusto)

martha Jeez. That sounds truly awful. I can't believe they have that system. I really hope that you don't have to go through that again. I am glad that I had privacy with my erpc at least. After four scans in the same room and felt a bit like a regular (the secretary remembered my name and details etc). I couldn't imagine having to be surrounding by the gleeful new mums. Is that the only facility near you? Mine is the only choice, I shall just have to try and keep my pulse rate down if I have to go there again.

marbles x posted. F*ck me. That is unbelievable. Cant imagine how you found the strength to go back in. I just hope it can only get better and that the junior doctor lost or job,or something terrible. How dare they treat people like that. It can only get better than that x

marbles FFS that is awful, you know what, it is probably because you were 'young' my friend had her first at 20 and second at 21 and is the most mature mum i knew at the time, she was given so much shit by the MWs and HVs it was unreal.

as an aside - are you watching Homes under the Hammer? I love love love that prog! It got me through my mat leave and for a while i recorded it when i went back to work (that and Heartbeat)

Now then - onto me... I am metalling big style. Got crampy stretchy pains across my tum, not bad crampy but 'good crampy' IYSWIM... i almost POAS last night but realised that at CD19 i was having a birrova laugh! Now on CD20 and biting fingernails, does anyone else think they have reached a milestone on CD20, like it is the last stretch.... am so gonna get a BFN, we only DTD twice this month, although one of them was right on the money (oops that sounds a bit 'porn-y' )

martha the stretchy pains sound good i fear i would be no help in the not-POAS-camp as i am a self confessed POAS addict but you know its far too early...but the temptation...its a killer i was indeed watching homes under the hammer we are renovating the kitchen and bathroom in the net few months so i am a little obsessed with the home improvement programmes i start the countdown to AF on or around CD20 so it is sort of a hurdle i agree about the "young" point too...although she was not much older by looks so to be so patronising was a shock to the system to say the least...

martha whoop for good cramps, I'm cd 21 today if going by erpc bring cd1 (I know how disillusioned I sound). I don't think I'll make it to the big cd 28, I never had a full 28 day cycle before so I'm hoping to know what's going on soon.
The attitude to youth is too true. I am not that young but look much younger. Every health professional I had to see when I was pregnant would always tilt their hide to the side then say 'did you mean to get pregnant?'. they might as well of called me 'poppet'. Loved the 'oops,that sounded a bit porn-y'!! Brilliant. Fingers super crossed for you.

marbles hope you're relaxing up and that you're feeling a little better.

I must actually get up and start getting ready for work soon. Really can't be arsed.

Age is a big thing, I had my first mc at the age of 17 and yes it was an accident but I was happy and was willing to grow up quickly and look after my babies (twins) when I mced them both the consultant who saw me was disgustingly harsh in the end he was struck off for gross misconduct. He scraped me with scissors because he couldn't find a swab to hand and left me with a nasty infection and then commented "Oh yes, complete miscarriage, you'll be glad I expect, now go along like a good girl and try not to be so sill next time" it was awful, really messed me up for a while.

Anyway back to more pleasant topics, I am munching mini caramel cheesecakes I do fancy a cuppa though, anyone fancy making me one? White, decaf, 1 sugar, thanks :o

The weather is lovely here, I wish I had a nice garden to be sitting in, luckily we are getting it landscaped soon so hopefully by the time summer is really here I can chill out there like a beached whale

Having a nightmare here not sure what is going to happen. I went for my scan (should be about 8 weeks) but they couldn't find the heartbeat (there was one at 6 weeks). The sonographer asked if I wanted a tv scan as she couldn't see much on the abdominal scan. I said ok and she found a second baby but still no heartbeat. As they only found one baby last time they have to re scan in a week to see if everything is still the same as they can't end the pregnancy with this new development.

I don't think anything will change so now I have to wait a week before being told I have mc'd again.

I am gutted as I would have loved twins. This mc is totally different to my last ones as they happened at 12 and 20 weeks. Hopefully they will be able to run tests to find our what has happened.

I don't know wether to go to work and carry on as normal or just wait at home until I get the confirmation next week.

Oh pebs I am so sorry to hear this development, how strange?

I would personally be questioning the skill of the sonographer at this stage, how did they not find the 2nd twin first time? Is it possible he/she also missed the heartbeat? Can you go for a rescan? Have they started you on the clexane yet?
I really hope it does not come to this but could it be that your clotting issues are attacking the fetus earlier this time?
How do you feel? I know that working would distract me and keep my mind off things but you must do what feels right for you.

tit I have no words!

Oh pebs so so sorry it wasn't good news don't force yourself to go to work stay home take care of yourself and post here with us as often as you need to {{{{{{hugs}}}}}}

The first scan was done by a consultant and senior registrar so I don't doubt their skills. Todays scan was done by two epu nurses. They couldn't see the twin either until they did the internal scan. I am going for another scan next week but don't hold out much hope really. They said it's hard to see twins at the early scans as they develop at different rates.

I have been taking aspirin everyday but didn't get the injections as I have been spotting since the beginning of this pg.

Not sure what to do about work really will have a think today

Do you have the number for your consultant pebs? Might be worth a call to them to see if they can see you earlier than the scan next week

Oh pebs, that all sounds really weird and stressful, I'm so so sorry.

Grumpus rer accupuncture. I used to go 3 times a week, with the only week not going being the final week of cycle. They give you different treatment at different times of your cycle e.g. encouraging ovulation then encouraging implantation.

NoMoreMarbles that is a horrendous story. I cna't quite believe that people in these jobs can have zero sensitivity.

Oh pebs I am really sorry but don't give up hope just yet.
Have a big squidgy hug from me.

pebs i am so sorry, twins.... i am sitting at my desk with a lump in my throat. i agree that you need to ring your consultant, all this talk of waiting a week is just not right, how can you relax, and stressing is going to make things worse.

Sorry, i am just all over the place on your behalf. I wouldnt go to work personally but you do what you feel is right.

I am so sorry

pebs, really hope you can be seen again soon. It is so difficult being kept in limbo. I am so sorry you are going through this.

Twins would be lovely. :(

I would not go back to work either. Look after yourself. Xxxxx

Pebs I agree I wouldn't want to go into work either

So sorry for this for you and horrific that want to make u wait another week , I'd try to get in a bit earlier if I were u cx

Cd21 can't remember who said they were tempted to poas knowing it was too early - well I'm the same and u did this morning a bfn. Only consolation is a bfp may still be possible... Fx

My last cp I poas at d21 with a cb digi and got bfp 1-2 ... 2 days later I got a bfn so I do know better than to test too early but the temptation is too strong.....

mumtum it was me the POAS fanatic!, i am CD20 today so we are cycle buddies i did a CB digi at 3+6 in January and got a BFP and that afternoon got the CP so like you i am now trying to hold my nerve. I also got a CP 3 days after a BFP in August last year...

I dont want to test until next weekend, the good news is that we are going to the IL's for the weekend so i can take my mind off it if i am late, then if i do get a BFP i am not going to the docs to book in until 6 weeks, then at least the prospect of a CP has passed, and the metalling will begin

pebs - again - hugs xx

Tried to ring the consultant but she wasn't available. The secretary just wanted to put me through to epu again. I only spoke to them a few hours ago so no point really.

The epu said I have to wait a week cause the guidelines say if the situation changes you need to scan again in a week and the doctors will not end the pg until after the week. Because I have changed from one baby to two I need to wait.

I was/am feeling very pg. Boobs and tummy are massive and I am knackered all the time it's really frustrating.

I feel ok at the moment but probably in denial

pebs that's so strange, I have everything, everything crossed that there is an explanation and until then I'd try and believe the more experienced scanning people until you can get to your consultant? or a private scan maybe? I don't even know what to suggest really, it's all so odd. You need answers though, you poor thing - I wouldn't go into work I think I'd be clamouring on the door saying they can't leave you like that, it's crazy. Let us know if anything develops and keep strong, okay. :( :(

All horrendous stories, I've told you all the saga of when I lost mini-toe surrounded by heartbeats, maybe one day I'll tell you all about the horridness of people when I was losing coffee-bean (and yes I was young as well. Not was actually. AM. I AM young )

SIL-who-is-preggers has called to say she's having a girl. I felt a bit sick with the announcement actually. Ever since she announced she was pg and told me she'd had to wait soooo long to tell everyone because she'd known since just 3 weeks pg when what she meant was when she POAS she got a 3+ if just felt a bit cross about her having a baby when I can't have one, and hers will be older than mine, and mine was supposed to be older than hers, and it's not fair.

Inexplicably I wanted her to have a boy because I think mine's a girl and with dates 6 weeks apart I didn't want them jammed together all the time in ILs-land. And because if I lose mine that will really really really suck.

So Sorry for what your going through pebs :( x