Just MC and ready to try again? Pregnant after MC and seeking somewhere safe to hide? Come on down to the shiny new baby-friendly MOSH PIT.

[MarthasHarbour]

There's cake for scoffing, backs for patting, and screeching death metal for all your METALLING moments. All welcome!

Our last thread reached 1000 posts so i hope you have all found your way here! I have steaming hot chocolate croissants (or as my colleague said 'chocolate pasties'), blueberry muffins, grapefruit segments and hot buttered toast for brekkie!

Settle into the mosh pit, we have special VIP area's for those on the 2WW, the new bumps metalling with segregated areas for the first/second/third trimesters and the club class cocktail bar for those who have just got AF and can get-pissed let loose for the first two weeks!

tiago how brilliant that you get private scans through work, that will be so reassuring (because it will be fine)

hey that was tas not me - wise words!!

yes where is missc i wonder hope you are ok xxx

yes I'm fretting about missc, where are you? Hoping all is fine xxx

tiago so pleased you've got an early scan. It was one of the worst experiences of my life going happily into a routine scan and finding out the baby had died. You're sadly less naive than I was but still, being looked after is very important. In my mind having extra scans is being looked after. And not travelling for work is good too! Why are you not 100% convinced about knowing earlier? If you don't mind me asking, that is. Take care x

Because I feel like I'm tempting fate a bit (i.e. if I just don't look it will all be OK) and if it is not going to work out I will then have to actively do something about it all. Which I am not sure I can deal with.

I appreciate this makes little if no sense.

I'm here, I'm ok. Sorry I've been at work

Alright the short version is I rang the MW today and told her I was very very concerned yesterday but I'm not so much today I was very scared by the gush but I haven't had any gushes since. I do feel much better by not having had loss since, it felt like the first flow of many but then it clearly hasn't been, so I'm less worried now. The cramping eased off overnight. She says all is likely normal but I can go in on friday her clinic day and she'll have a look and a listen if I want - but I've got the cons friday so there wouldn't be much point there. So now I'm just going to wait for that.

I went from being 90% very concerned when it occured to about 50% concerned by yesterday afternoon when I'd calmed down. But I had spent however long sitting still terrified that if I moved I'd lose fluid so by the evening being forced to move around with DD and realising I actually wasn't losing any more, after all, meant by last night I was only about 10% worried. I think I'm happy enough to wait for friday, it's not long.

I'm sorry I caused a ruckus and a worry. I don't mean to. Thank you for your help.

oh and apparently this is prime time for cramps and aches as the baby grows really fast at the moment (?) I try not to look at the baby size growing things as it makes me metal. I thought babies were all pretty tiny really until much later on. I mean mini-toe was definitely a little tiny person with all the things little tiny people have. But he wasn't what you'd call large. Only about 7-8 inches head to toe and of course weighed next to nothing.

PHEW! thanks for the update missc

oh and tiago brilliantnewsabout your3+and that you're a little brighter.

I consider myself fucked right off with my accidental pregnancy (one one of four though!)

Red bush tastes like 'poo soup' smells - which is the oh so glamourous name for the fluid created when I jet wash the patio with a load of bleach after the dogs have crapped on it repeatedly

twolittlemonkeys it's up to you. The first time it happened to me we decided to wait a year before trying again. The second time we started strying again straight away. I was pg in the WTF cycle the first time and after 2 cycles the second time. So didn't work out as planned!

Get boinging on that ball IQ a baby would cheer us all right up!

I am humbled by all the fabulous advice above and only wish I was the type of person so do as I'm told. On the positive side, this baby is swishing and wiggling round in there with regularity. Which is very reassuring.

Tiago great news about3+ yay!

coffee I was worried about you but relieved you are feeling calmer!

there is a heartbeat!! The most beautiful flicker I have ever seen.
Measuring 6+3
I was so happy I hugged the sonographer and he looked very embarassed
Obviously a longway to go yet but the best news we could hope for.

Wonderful heart beating news far So pleased for you!

missc I'm glad you're feeling better and far, yay for a heartbeat, that's so exciting!

I've been reading but not posting much, I've been feeling a bit dispirited after our clinic appointment with the most useless consultant ever. We were in and out in 5 minutes and basically told that my bloods had come back normal so they'd give me aspirin and maybe scan me at 6 and 10 weeks as well as 12. Given that it goes wrong for me at 8 weeks, I'm not sure what the point of that is really...

FFS. What a waste of annual leave. I don't know whether to go back to the dr and as for a referral somewhere else or just to leave it and see what happens next time around.

I may just sit here and eat my lovely Green & blacks caramel. Anyone want some?

How are you feeling now btw tas?

Just popping on to say hurray for good news! So lovely you saw the little heart beating away far.

Mscoffee, relieved that things have settled down again, and that you are much calmer.

twolittlemonkeys, I am pregnant from WTF cycle. When I saw my GP, she got out her big manual and read mr a passage that said the only problem is to do with dating. Completely agree with the others about thd emotional aspect. After my first mc, I was not in a fit state for months after. This time round, it felt different.

madabout, hope I got this right, but happy birthday to your little one!

And, some sort of weird good news, I am feeling more and more sickly, which I only had with my DD pregnancy, not the 2 mc. Never thought I would be delighted to feel like this, but I am taking it as a good sign!

Jaffa, yay for sickness! Only on these sorts of threads can we say that...

Thanks Jaffa, well remembered! we've had a lovely day with DS in the swimming pool and indoor play centre. Shame DH can't be with us on my day off every week!

I'm just toddling along waiting for my 12 week scan which will be a week Monday. I'll be 12+5 by then. Symptoms have subsided a little but I'm trying not to worry as I think it's normal for nausea to ease a bit around now?

Trying to keep up with how you're all doing but not dipping in to bore you as there's nothing much going on here.....

farfalla yeah! great news!

grandpoohbah thanks, I'm.....ok I suppose. Had a very restful day, but still doing silly things like putting washing on but putting the washing powder in the conditioner section. Not sure how I'll be at work on Monday! I've stopped crying so much, just fed up now. Might have to start thinking about getting a dog instead of another DC, not feeling very hopeful about having another one. Keep getting twinges and I'm convinced this means that my other fallopian tube is completely bunged up. In reality, I'm ovulating and apparently it all goes a bit crazy around this time once you've had an ectopic. But I'm very quick to assume the worst now. I used to be so optimistic!

hiya madmen long time no hear, glad it's all going ok.

jaffa hurrah for nausea and vomiting! I felt like that with DD, just got worse around 10/11 wks and carried on til about 20 wks. I didn't know I was born!

tiago it makes perfect sense. Do whatever you need to keep sane.

tits hope you're having an early night and that's why you haven't come back with ninjamen. I have chocolate fridge cake with sour cherries soaked in amaretto. YUM!

Hi Tas, keep your chin up, sounds to me like you're working through it bit by bit. You'll get there I'm sure. Just keep my sis in mind, lost a tube and 2 girls after, it does happen

missc you didnt cause a drama - were all here to support each other and were just concerned for you and the little one - you carry on metalling, it's what the mosh pit was made for!!! Hugs

tiago I know what you mean about tempting fate but sometimes that little bit of reassurance helps you to get to the next hurdle. I had a dating scan at 6 weeks, a private at 9 weeks and a nuchal at 13 weeks. Each one helped me to get to the next stage - but you have to do what you feel comfortable with. You could make a deal with yourself - for example when I get to X amount of weeks I will see how I feel and book one if I'm worried. If your not metalling too much you could wait another week.....there is no rush with these things!!

two we got pg in the wtf cycle - the dr said it was fine and not to worry about it the only major issue was dating as Jaffa said. But the most important thing is that you feel ok in your own head - being pg straight after a loss brings it's own stresses and strains.

far whoop whoop for a heartbeat - so pleased for you......as for hugging the sonographer he should expect such things when dealing with pg women.

grand could you maybe speak to your mw - I find them sooooo much more helpful in easing concerns than Dr's and usually they will have a good chat over the phone so you don't have to take time off work. But it is still good news the bloods came back ok even if the consultant was a pile of pants!!

Jaffa yay for feeling sick - I complained to my DSis that I didn't feel pg - within 30 minutes I had thrown up for the first time and then kept doing it everyday until 16 weeks BUT you are right it does make you feel better and this is the only place we celebrate feeling crappy in pg!!!

mad glad you had a good day with your little one - I'm looking forward to being able to do this sort of thing with my LO when she arrives. As for symptoms easing it really depends on the woman - my friend lost all symptoms at 8 weeks was convinced of the worst and has ended up with a 10lb little boy.....I was sick as a dog until 16 weeks and still nauseous at 22 weeks - there seems to be no real pattern to these things.

Been bouncing for a couple of hours today - have had very strong braxton hicks ALL DAY every 30 minutes and now getting cramps inside my bump but I think this is still another false alarm as I haven't had the 'coming in waves' feeling.......possibly the slowest labour know to man!!!!

tas try not to be too hard on yourself - you are trying to deal with and process so many different issues and emotions at the moment. It is a hideous place to be no matter what any of us try to say to help.

You just have to take work one day at a time - going into work on Monday will be hard but the hardest part will be getting up to go in. Just see how you feel when you get there - you never know - being busy might just give you something to focus on. If not just be honest and say your not feeling 100% and go home. Work will never be more important than your physical and mental health!!!

Sending you hugs from here

just jumping on to say brilliant news from far and MissC good to hear all is going well - will do a full catch up tomorrow when i am at work!

Morning all

Thank you all for such a lovely welcome, it feels safe and secure here and I'm glad I'm in the mosh pit. Don't worry, I don't feel comfy enough to just sit around in my pants yet,but the slippers and pyjama bums are definitely donned.

missC and Tiago, so glad that the ease has worried a bit, the phrase swishing around in there made me smile. And how lovely to see a hb farfalla , you must be thrilled.

twolittle I hated the doctors in our local epau. The first scan I had seemed to just show an empty sac, being my first one, I had no clue what this meant. The doc literally just said 'well, can't tell much from that, come back in two weeks'. I shuffled out in a daze, not having the wherewithal to shake some compassion into the man. I would have squirted him in the eye with belly jelly if I wasnt such a mess.
jaffa glad that you have started feeling upchucky! Hope you feel sick at convenient times,not when driving on an A road with nowhere to stop! My steering wheel still hasn't fully recovered.
IQ how lovely to hear about your progress, am really looking forward to you regaling terrifying us with your birth story soon! I was a bit concerned that sis was going to try and steal my chosen favourite name I had lined up, it's a family name which makes it fair game I guess. I don't think I could talk to her again, I fully understand you wanting to slap her silly!
tas thank you for that message, I smiled knowingly about people 'not getting it'. OH's sis, has literally just POAS'd! I am going to do things so differently next (positive!) time. Just feeling like I'm wishing my life away in two week chunks at the moment. Glad to hear that counselling worked for you, I think I'm going to give it a go at work, they've offered me it (protocol rather than sympathy) so I may as well.
grand I would love some Green & Blacks, I just devoured my tub of that inonesitting so bring it on.

Yesterday's 12 hour day with no time to eat was rubbish. I know that my job and it's ridiculous hours can't be good for ttc. I've been recommended an acupuncturist and am off there next week hopefully. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for it being relaxing but without the plinky plonky whale music that always makes me want to pee. Issues anyone know if there is a time of month that is is bad or good to go if ou are ttc? Would love to optimise its uses.

Have a wonderful day y'all xx

Morning all!

Now then grumpus i know you are new so i shall go easy on you - however - the 'form' on this thread is that the first person on in the morning brings the breakfast. I have given you special dispensation tho as you are working hard too!

Did anyone watch OBEM last night? I had been so strict on myself for not watching it but DH has been out the last two wednesdays so i have given in! God that midwife last night was way too chirpy for me i-would have lamped her one

grumpus am at the doc at your EPU.... how are you not supposed to metal over the next two weeks?

missC once again - am glad to hear you LO is swishing around inside you

Oh no! How remiss of me! If only you had brought kippers martha then I could give myself a well deserved stinky slap round the chops! I will do better. Tbh, yours sounds freaking awesome (shamefacedly tucks in). I would promise a slap up eggs benedict for tomorrow but unfortunately I will be retiring to bed at 7 am, so I would burn it and then split the hollandaise then throw the whole thing on the floor in disgust. It would not be pretty.

I would be really loathed to have to go back to that epau department again,although the nurses were really lovely. I think I would use some of my grafted for pennies and have a private scan if everything were to happen again. I doubt I could sit in that particular little room again. Fingers crossed that I will have to make those decisions at some bear point in the future!

Morning all mmm smoked salmon and croissants... Thanks

I have decided on another duvet day here seeing as how the Dr has referred me for tests and consultant visit for my chest/shoulder issue that seems to be getting worse appears to be lupus related but I have to get the consultant to agree before any sort of treatment plan can be agreed

Ok so off to read through the thread...

Just had a little cry too (whatever you do don't watch "small bump by ed sheeran" on you tube brutal