Mothers of Angel Babies United - wishing for, some of us pg with and some of us holding our Rainbow babies

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Here we go again!
lots of love to all our angel babies! xxx

had a very stressful day - went into work to discover that nobody from HR was in today so couldn't talk to them. Started having what felt like contractions so totally freaked out and was in a fair bit of pain. Called my lovely doctor, who told me to come in and see him so i did (I left the office at about 11.30). Doesn't look like it was contractions as everything still looks ok, but he told me to go home and rest, and that if I got any more when I was at work I was to go straight home and that if i got some on the way to work i was to turn round and go home. And that if i needed him to write me a note for my boss then he could, but that she probably wouldn't want to receive it as it would say some very uncomplimentary things about her...

So I relay this to my boss (apart from the stuff about the note, obviously) and she responds by saying 'it's very convenient for you that the doctor told you to go home today today, isn't it, given that you wanted to work from home today.' So i went back to the office as it wasn't worth the hassle of fighting with her. she eventually said i could go home around 3 but am so angry i could kill her.

the pains have settled a little but i am still totally freaked out...

Evening. Will try and catch up later. Been at a&e today with dd1 after her school called, looks like she's probably broken her thumb again. She was x-rayed but they're not sure so she's got a fracture clinic appointment for tomorrow morning and a second opinion. She's in some pain which isn't good but able to have more pain killers in about an hour. Poor thing.

Hope everyone's well

august have you decided about the scan? Hope your AF sorted itself out soon, doesn't sound nice for you.

jane fingers crossed for you this month.

green that's a very good idea and definitely one they should implement.

blue I love ikea, planning a trip back there again soon and we were only there last week!

Too is that the dream genie one? I have one from last time and I really love it, been using it for a while now.

Razz glad work took the news well :)

Dachs your boss sounds really vile, do you have an HR department you could speak to? This is the last thing you need right now, bloody people. xx Try and take things easy, the contractions sound like what I had the other day and they told me to rest lots and take things easy. xx

right Dachs please let your GP write you a note for a few weeks sick leave! you can't be dealing with this! then you have time to phone up HR from home to talk about this! seriously you need to complain about this! if not, I will for you!

Too sorry you had such an awkward moment with a colleague!

oooh our fertility friendly lubricants arrived today will need to have a trial run tonight... my fertile period should start on Friday, so I told DH to gear up he asked whether he should get some red bull. I told him every day! He asked not more? as said as much as you like! well... know you all know what I'll be doing when I'm quiet on here

enjoy product testing blue

cheese Hope DD feels better soon! Sounds v painful xxxx

We do have an HR department but although they are making the right noises, they aren't great at following through with anything. I spoke to them yesterday afternoon before i left the office and then all the stuff with boss kicked off after i left. Will definitely be raising this withe them tomorrow though, as today's problem I'm convinced was a direct result of yesterday's stress.

dachs You should let us rip on your boss . Seriously though, she is vile. I really hop HR come up with a suitable solution for you, if not get that note from the doctor.

blue Did you get preseed? Enjoy the testing, fingers crossed for you .

cheese Oh no, poor dd! Hope she is ok, lots of ice cream will make her feel better.

too I dont have that problem with colleagues as I'm a self employed childminder, however I have one mindee (aged 7) who asks "Is your baby here yet" everytime I collect her from school. I have explained as best I could to her about Zoe and also told her parents but she still asks every bloody time!

green Lets hope MNHQ sort something out!

Hi razz, mel, august, angel spilt, ciwi and anyone I have forgot .

My fertile time starts on Monday (apparently) and we both finish work on Friday for 2 weeks, guess what I will be doing In between stuff for the wedding and getting married !

Hope you all have a good day, got to go and get set up for the kiddies arriving.

too I have had that several times at work, even though I work for a large company I am only known at the depot and well my DH told my boss to let the whole depot know about what happened, but even now I still get people coming up to me and saying what did you have? Hows the baby? I have also had the HR lady avoiding me because she is pg and yesterday she was in the office again but I was too busy to speak to her. But then I saw a card being passed aroudn the office but they were making sure it wasnt passed to me, so I put the two things together and thought this must be the HR ladies leaving card. So I asked the admin staff what it was and was told that I was right so I told them that nobody had told me she was pg and was that the reason she seams to be avoiding me, they looked pretty sheepish, so I signed the card and made it clear that actually leaving me out of these things is more hurtful than talking to me about them.

Dachs I am so livid with your situation, I so want to come up to your work and have it out with this so called boss of yours! Is she jealous or something! Get signed off, please. I think its the only way you will have peace of mind. Even if you love your job and dont want to let them down you have to think of your health and the babies. She (your boss) owes you nothing. Do you have any leave left for the year? I used up my leave at work before I went on maturnity leave to have a day off a week I didnt want to but thought in the end that it was the best thing to do. But then again I told them I needed the friday afternoon off for hospital appointments and they cant have a go at that they have to give you the time off. Coem to think of it Dachs have you work provided a rest area for you? They have to by law, if you dont want the get signed off then look up your rights as a pregnant women and make your work fulfill them, might make you feel better. take a look at this link it might help Maternity rights

cheese I hope you DD is ok, broken thumb owey.

August how are you sweetie?

ov negative yesterday, but Im trying not to get to excited about this month I need to get fit really bad now as my leg is hurting when I walk and I know its because Im not fit anymore. So Im on a keep fit drive, Ive walked to work and back all this week, except for today as I was going to ride my new bike but I couldnt pump the tyres so ended up coming in the car, which has really annoyed me so I shall go out for a power walk at lunch I think.

The last of my three dwarf hamsters died last night , she had died in her bed. Poor little Freda, Pippin her DD1 died in March, Lois her DD2 died in April, her DH Benny died last month (she obviously couldnt live without him) only her DS1 Huey is still with us (well my friend has him) So I now have no pets and our new place (which we still havnt moved into) doesnt allow pets (except for fish). (this is why I have bought DH a fish tank for Chrimbo)

Jane no it's not pre-seed, DH found it too expensive and he didn't like the way it is administered. So he bought Zestica I must admit it was quite good

DD is not very well, so kept her home today, she's got a temperature and asked if she could rest on the sofa with her blanket today. So that's what we're doing.

cheese it seems to be one thing after another for you and your DC, poor thumb - ouch.
Got my scan appointment, it's actually for a pelvic x-ray on Monday. Not sure if I should go, would the radiation effect fertility / ovulation?
Blue hope your DD is feeling better soon too - sofa day sounds cosy though, best place to be when you're under the weather
Jane children can be quite blunt can't they. A little while ago my DS2 said to my pg friend very matter-of-factly "our baby died, isn't that right Mummy?" It breaks your heart but I guess they see things from a different perspective. Yay for no work and swi-ing before the big day
Dachs your boss is a nightmare, what everyone else said ^ your health and that of your baby are more important than anything else and just know you have rights, don't let the b***ds get you down!
Green sorry to hear about your hamster :(
I'm not too bad, thx for asking :) Woke up in the middle of the night last night and burst in to tears with an overwhelming sense of something missing, I think its the full moon, it brings it all back to me (sorry to sound airy fairy but it just stuck in my mind during that horrible time, hence my nickname) and then when I did get back to sleep I had terrible nightmares of halloweeny type monsters with pumpkins for heads coming in through the window to get my baby and I was shouting at them "you don't even exist!" Horrible. AF has eased off a bit finally though.
Hi Too well done for signing the card and rising above it. Hope they all get the message soon that its more hurtful to pussy-foot around than to involve you

Hi all
dachs
cheese your family really dont seem to be having much luck with their bones at the moment. Poor dd x
blue hope your little Ella is feeling a bit better
jane good luck with all that full on swi
too bet it was a man that sat next to the lady that didnt know about Thea, they just dont seem to think about letting others no when something so tragic happens
green, though my logical side can understand why people get embarassed around us ladies that have lost our babies I get so angry with them, do they really think we want to be ignored and that we cant be happy for others!!
august I think you should go for your scan, it will not effect ovulation or you ttc and may give you an insight into what is going on if anything.

I have just seen my consultant and he has booked me in for a section on the 30th March when I will be 37+1. It is soooo long away but at least I have it to aim for. He really is so lovely.

Yeh razz for section date. It's really not that far away just the other side of Xmas!!! It's lovely to have a date arranged. I found it helped me such a lot with regards to reducing stress.xx
Cheese have you got a loyalty card at A&E??? Hugs to your daughter.
Dachs hugs (()) xx
Hi August xxx
Hi everyone else; Ciwi, Blue, Too ,Green & anyone I ve missed!!!
Phoebe still feeding ++ all going fine. Opened a bank account for her today as she's more money than me & Ant put together!!!! Went to Boots spent £10 on little Xmas presents and a lovely man who was in the lift with us asked about Phoebe how old she is etc... Then gave her a £2 coin saying " no newborn child should be without a coin!!!" and wished us a lively Xmas. So, so sweet. ( not lively Xmas a lovely Xmas!!!)
Seeing some more friends tomorrow then seeing our Midwive to be weighed again. I m sure she must have put weight on if not god knows where she's putting all this milk!!!
Love to all xxxx

Oh Jane not long to u re wedding. How exciting & swi time, yeh!!!!

Ok girls Im a little frustrated and need some advice or reasurrance. As you all know I have had 12 days of AF this month and then I thought it was over, well this morning I have woken up to lots of pink discharge, more than I would expect from a ovulation bleed. Has anyone had an ovulation bleed? I havnt ovulated yet to my knowledge I have done three tests and they all had a little faint line and Im not due to ovulate till CD15-16 which is today and tomorrow. So I dont know what to expect. Im not sure what to do, Im cramping a bit at the moment aswell. Do you guys think a trip to the doctors might be in order? Or do you think I should wait till this afternoon and do an ovulation test, that might answer my question? Why can it all be normal!

Oh green, that sounds so frustrating. I would wait until this afternoon and if you have a neg opk call the doctor. .

Angel I'm glad pheobe is doing well x

green I had some kind of bleed/spotting in my previous 2 cycles, but not in this one don't know whether it was ov bleed or not. According to my fertility app my fertile period starts today... :) so DH is warned, we're going to try as much as possible over the next few days!
Will do another ov-test this afternoon, I couldn't make my mind up about them last cycle, as they never turned very dark, I think when it was negative there was no line at all... normally my cervical mucus does tell me when I'm fertile...

blue and jane thanks, I havnt had anymore pink dicharge this morning so maybe I am ovulating? I still have a bit of cramping going on, and I was casting my mind back just now and I think I used to have this when I was in my early 20's so maybe it it. Im resisting the urge to go home and jump on DH as he is at home this week. I am going home for lunch so maybe can persaude him?

green I had ov bleeding in the 2 cycles before my bfp. The last cycle ( the one when I got my bfp) I got a lot of pink discharge and even bled a bit, thought there was no way I could get pg and I did! Think one month I bled just before the positive opk and the other I bled just after x

green dont resist the urge......go jump on him . I had a small pinky/brownish bleed/spotting around the time I ovulated and concieved this pregnancy so fingers crossed it will be good luck for you too.
angel I am actually really happy to have a section date, like you a kind of plan to work towards, it almost feels safer.

Hope everyone else is well, no more injuries in the house of cheese

green do it! And, difficult as it is try not to worry - our bodies do funny things all the time - judging from what others have said the spotting sounds like a normal/good thing.
razz great news on your section date! x
Hi Angel, razz, too, cheese how's your dd's thumb? Was it broken?

Ok girls I will, but he knows Ive been spotting abit and he doesnt like blood so, hopefully he will let me. Ive made an appointment at the doctors anyway just in case it continues, its ok the appointment isnt till the 25th. Cant believe that it will take that long its terrible trying to get an appointment. I shall do a ov test then when I get in and if its positive then that will help with persauding DH. I am cramping a bit at the moment, its like Im on AF!

Green, do it, do it! Tell DH it has all gone away and hopefully he won't know any different until afterwards [evil grin].

Have been v lazy re posting for the last couple of days and will try to catch up at the weekend.

Razz, yay for the section date! I want one! Not seeing consultant until 8 Dec, though.

I have flu jab tomorrow morning and 20 week scan on Mon - am 20 weeks today, hurray! Bean is doing lots of happy jumping, which is nice and reassuring, so have not had to resort to doppler very often.

Too congratulations on 20 wks, half way there :)

too I can't believe you're 20 weeks already! :) Nice to hear bean has been moving lots. When did you start feeling it? I'm not sure whether the flutterings I have are bean or indigestion, and I know they are meant to feel similar but I seriously think it's actually indigestion rather than the bean. 16 weeks on Monday, so I hope to start feeling it soon

razz Glad you've got a section date. I'm seeing a consultant on Tuesday at the local hospital for the first time - I've had most of my care so far from the doc I'm using in London because he's closer to work and adorable, but the GP thinks I should be booked in locally as well to make sure all bases are covered. I'm hoping they'll book me in for a section at 38 weeks, which would be about 16 April.

jane Good luck with the wedding prep and enjoy the activities with DH during the week

green So sorry about you hamster xxx We had massive health problems with our dogs over the last couple of years and really thought we were going to lose Eric on a couple of occasions, but thankfully we still have him. Losing a pet is horrid xxx

blue How is DD today? Hope she's feeling better. Enjoy jumping on DH :)

august How are you? xxxxx

So I still haven't managed to sort anything out with my boss, but someone on facebook told me that a Fit Note recommending altered work hours etc. might state 'with employer's permission' but what that actually means is that if they can't accommodate the recommendations then the fit note is to be treated as a sick note for the period instead. I have looked into this and it is true, so I'm going to have another go at getting hold of somebody in HR on Monday and point this out to them. I am getting very close to pointing out that I can sue them for discrimination against a pregnant person. Am so glad it is the weekend as I don't have to go to work for two days, and I've never felt like that about work before. I have a hospital appointment on Tuesday, and it's been a battle getting time off agreed for that. I can't handle all this conflict - I just want to curl up in a little ball under my duvet and pretend the world isn't there. And I didn't even feel like that after I lost the twins, so it's pretty bad. But DH has said that we can go out shopping today and look at nursery furniture so we at least have an idea of roughly how much it's going to cost us, and he hates shopping so he's trying to cheer me up! :)

Dachsshame work is crap. It must be horrible. At the same time my mum,sister & Ant were all having a shitty time at work for a variety of reasons & it made me appreciate mine even more. Lots of my colleagues are brilliant friends & though I m
Looking for a new job ( to move closer to my family) I m scared of leaving my work
Too yeh for 20 weeks!!
Hi all; hope all are well. Phoebe had put on another 8'oz and when weighed yesterday Iis now a whopping 10lb 1oz!!! I knew she felt heavier!!! So, we ve been discharged by my lovely Midwive ( which was very emotional as we ve been on a he'll of a journey over the last 2 years).
Had a lovely day seeing friends just trying to stir sleepy head ( after been awake half the night) so we can go shopping!!!
Love to all xx

Yay for Phoebe growing, Angel! Have a nice day shopping.

Dachs, I started to feel movements around the 16 week mark, but only very occasionally. It's a lot earlier than last time, but I had an anterior placenta then, so it was all a bit muffled. I can feel some of the movements from the outside now, but every time DH puts his hand near me Bean stops moving! She's a bad little beastie.

Your work is really really horrible - I'm not surprised you just want to curl up and hide from it all! Hope HR are better on Monday and start taking you seriously.

Green, how did the seduction go?

Thanks August! 20 weeks have passed very slowly for me, but perhaps the next 17 will fly by [deluded emoticon].

Am waiting for my sister to call - she has been rounding up Exmoor ponies near me and is coming over for dinner, possibly with an old uni friend, depending on whether the friend already has plans. It's starting to get dark, so they can't be herding ponies for much longer.

This morning I was coming out of Tesco and there was a woman collecting money for Sands standing in the foyer. I gave her cash without saying anything, but part of me was wondering whether it showed on my face and if she could tell just by looking at me that I had lost a baby. I know this is stupid!