TTC#2? Hide in here!

[HerniaGranger]

So, after almost turning myself inside out giving birth to DC1, we've decided to take the plunge and try for another. Thought this would be a good place to share excitement / terror / general state of knackeredness. Just watch your feet as you come in. I haven't had chance to tidy the lego away yet and you know how much it hurts when you stand on it.
Glass of anyone?

Oh forgot about the riots - we have lots of play-doh so DD can use that - plus ELC paints which are not as washable as they state so can make copious amounts of mess!!

Hi Horridcold, welcome inside. I am only on CD4 so I might just have a cheeky glass of wine from you.... 230pm isn't too early to drink is it?
You sound uber-organised with your TTC plan, am very impressed. Will make the most of your cakes whilst your not distracted by SWI

As well as not testing early we are absolutely not sneakily taking our temperature every morning on DDs digital thermometer, and not even considering putting it into a fertility chart, nope. Not even a little bit. Well, maybe just a tad.........

LOL Numberjacker - hate to say it but I did contemplate taking mine at the weekend to see how accurate it would be - but it's an ear one so not very I'm thinking - LOL. I used Fertility Friend when TTCing for DD so all my other MN friends new that I was PG at the same I did - but that was only 10DPO and after an early MC, so I wasn't holding my breath. But DD eventually turned up!

It's never too early for virtual wine (I have to say that keeping off the real stuff is a little harder though when you work from home like me!).

Soooo a little confession... Even though I am not TTCing, we did BD this month, about two days before OV without protection and I can't for the life of me remember when AF is due!! I am hoping (secretly) that it might have been Friday. Not getting too excited though, had some slight blood-stained CM on Saturday and have been crampy since, but nothing else. Not testing though because I don't want to tempt fate. Have probably already tempted fate putting it on here...

It would be a nightmare in a number of ways (and DH would be gutted that it happened so quickly and way ahead of schedule) but although I'd be panicking, I would secretly be over-the-moon.

Does anyone worry about DC1 though? My DD is so scrummy, I love her so much, never realised quite how much you could love someone else, but would hate for her to feel any less loved and feel like she has to share us. Do you ladies worry about this too?

Taking temps! Never even thought of that, you are bad bad ladies.

I am monkey puzz because if the tree in my garden but turns out I couldn't spell at the time!

Oooh that is so exciting HC ( I can't shorten your name to Horrid!) I have fingers crossed for you. There's never a perfect time for a baby, but if it happens it will all fall in to place, and you'll manage. Us mums are far more resourceful than we give ourselves credit.

I did worry about DD (almost 3). But she is so good with younger kids. She asked me last month why her friend had a baby sister and she didn't! So I took that as a good sign. I think if kids think they'll be involved and able to help then that might work, but then my DD is easily excited!
Our DD was conceived at the first go, this one we are on attempt cycle 3, and if one more person asks me in real life "when you going to get on and have a second" I am going to scream/shout and shove night-garden figurines into every available orifice (of theirs)

Clandy - where's that paper bag, please? And breathe.

Oops sorry, that was almost a rant!

See - I bloody knew I shouldn't have said anything, or gone to the loo for that matter!

Pass the Sancerre back please - large glass required! Next time I'm going to keep my gob shut!!

At least it was exciting briefly...

I will have to revel in all your excitement now - and in all honesty, having to wait until January isn't all bad. I got GD in my last PG so will likely get it much earlier this time and having to have 4 Insulin injections a day over Xmas doesn't fill me with joy - so I'll get Xmas out of the way first!!

Every cloud...

So, reminiscing time... How was CB for you first time around - in my case, pretty shocking! LOL

Numberjacker, I think that's the key with LOs, get them involved. DD LOVES her dollies and calls them all 'Beebies' which is very sweet. I'm sure she would be great with younger sibling...

Oh that's just pants!! Sorry about that HC . Here's a large glass of wine, enjoy!

Pregnancy was a dream with DD, labour was a ruddy nightmare, that is locked away somewhere in my memory and is prob why it took me so long to want to TTC2. Nothing life-threatening or anything (so shouldn't complain) but ended up in theatre afterwards being fiddled around with like one of James Herriot's cows for over an hour.

Did you guys fare any better?

Hello... I have missed so much this afternoon you two gossips!!

Welcome HC (adopting nickname btw) lovely meet you you seem very well stocked with goodies so make yourself comfy and pass the bickies!

Sorry that af turned up but like you said your waiting and yes good thinking bout Xmas....

Ah.... CB! Was amazing not great at being pregnant but can pop em out well. Waters broke 20 minutes into due date, and smooth rubbings from there, lasted 2 days but only pushing 1 hour not a stitch in sight (smugness) terrified of being pregnant tho!

I think dd would love a baby she has a new cousin she is obsessed with and keeps asking for a baby now haha. She will love it. Plus twice as much to love so gotta be a good thing

HC that is rubbish, dive into the wine.

CB was all in all good last time it was just a bit fast - 5 hours in all so a bit intense and I had a large dose of pethadine which I totally tripped out on, then the midwife could have done a better job on her sewing - but hope to get that sorted out after next one - it's cosmetic more than anything.

Not sure what I'd do differently next time, but will be leaving for hospital pronto!

Went to asda, horrid experience remember why I don't normally go. Tests were on special offer, I hovered but did not buy. Not feeling sure I won't be tempted in the morning though. Symptom spotting like mad!

Oooh you strong woman! On offer tho.... I have some just in case tests but like everyone else I shall remain strong!

Just realized I meant to put 3 not 2 gossips can't count any more !

Wow 5 hours that is a quickie I think I went at least 12 hours from waters breaking to my 1st contraction! Wish mine had gone a little faster as was falling asleep in the birth pool so tired. Anyone else go in one??

Thanks Clandy, but not that strong really, have 3 in the cupboard!

So want to test in the morning, I guess 9dpo is ridiculous .... unless any of you think otherwise and are going to tell me many stories of you and people you know who got a positive then.... puhleeeeease!

And have many symptoms, needing to pee very frequently, hunger is ridiculous, bizarre dreams. None of these symptoms can be attributed to me running round after a toddler, at all. I am pathetic, this is only month 1.

Managed to empty the paddling pool over my shoes just now too, marvelous!

See, now you've opened the flood-gates with your birth stories, I can tell mine - total disaster PG and total disaster labour and child-birth.

Grab a glass - I've added some twiglets and mini-cheddars to the mix. Take a load off and enjoy the drama...

So... Got married in the April and came off of the pill. Decided to TTC in the June and got PG first month. Had an MC at 5 weeks . Decided to try again as soon as we could and 6 weeks later I was PG with DD.

Over-the-moon but tried to keep my feet on the ground following the previous MC. So had a bleed at 8 weeks. Went for an early scan and all was fine. Great. Then went for the 12 week scan which comes with the Nuchal scan in our PCT.

24 hours later I got a call saying that baby was 1:35 risk of Downs. Devestation hits again. They offered me the alternatives of a CVS within the next week or an Amnio at 18 weeks. I opted for the CVS.

Got a call 24 hours after the CVS to say that they hadn't managed to get enough blood and would need to do another one. I refused saying that two of those within 48 hours certainly wouldn't help the MC risk so opted to wait until 18 weeks for an Amnio. I had the Amnio on 29th December and on New Years Eve they phoned with the fantastic news that we had the all-clear.

Surely nothing else could go wrong? Or so we thought. Pre-PG I was a size 10-12, had a fairly healthy diet and my BMI was about 19. At 28 weeks I was tested for GD because my Mum has type 2 Diabetes. It was positive. But not only that, I couldn't be diet-managed either. So I had to inject Insulin four times a day with every meal and before bed-time.

Of course, this also meant that due to the risks for the baby, I would have to be induced early.

I was induced at 38+5 on the Friday morning. I went into labour straight away but didn't dilate enough. Instead of giving me a C-Section, they left me until I was 3cm dilated which took until the Sunday afternoon. By this time I was distressed, tired and I'd just had enough. Took me up to the Delivery Suite and gave me an Epidural then broke my waters. I had the Insulin drip in one hand and the Sytocin drip in the other. The Epidural only numbed half of my body so I couldn't move at all but could feel everything. It was awful. By the early hours of Monday morning they decided to try the Ventouse.

By the time DD arrived, she wasn't breathing. They had to resuscitate (sp) her (which we didn't find out until we found the birthing information in the front of her little red book a couple of weeks later...) and her head was so badly damaged by the Ventouse that her eyelid wouldn't open. The muscle was permanently damaged. She had an operation at 18 months (just before Xmas last year) to lift the eyelid but she will need further operations as she gets older.

I had an Episiotomy and couldn't walk very well for 12 weeks after so a C-Section would have been much better for DD and for me.

So, is why DH really doesn't want another one. It was so traumatic and where as I bonded with DD straight away, he didn't. It's been a tough couple of years for us.

THE END!

'Ere, don't be knocking ASDA, their curries are great!

AF is definitely here now - damn and blast it!!

Oh oops! Where in the world is all this bloody sunshine??? It's dark and cold here!!!

Hmmm 9 dpo is very early but if you don't test you will never know... May get bfp ESP if you have symptoms but just remember not to be upset if it's bfn cos that doesn't mean alot at this stage!!

On a 28 day cycle I should have ovulated last Tuesday but think from (the tmi) I have read on other threads it may be happening now.... If only it can wait til tomorrow so I can jump oh the 1st minute I get a chance!! hmmm.... Was easier the 1st time round any suggestions how I can have an accidental pregnancy with actually trying for it....

I wouldn't dare tell you MPT that I got a positive at DPO10 because that would just be asking for trouble!!

In fairness, it was a VERY faint line - so much so that I'd put it in the bin and just happened to retrieve it after about 7 mins and spotted .

I really would wait until you're late. Why waste a good test?!!

By the way, got all my tests (including OPKs) off of Ebay - worked a treat for me!.

Clandy, I would have loved the birthing pool, but alas, with GD you can't have anything like that because of the insulin drip and the constant monitoring and having to be induced. Since I will no doubt have GD again, I guess I'm screwed in that respect!

As for your other dilemma, nope - not sure how you can do that, but if you do find out, let me know!

Evening ladies. Glad you're all here. Nice to meet you HorridCold. What a day. At times DS is like Rik Mayall at Alton Towers after ten bags of candy floss i.e. exhausting, frustrating, quite funny but completely uncontrollable.

Now he's gone to bed I plan to drink some of HC's sancerre and stick my face in her cake. (If that's ok with you? Sorry about AF too)

MonkeyPT - glad you've resisted the temptation. Those sticks are not your friends. They're dirty, dirty, dirty. Not long 'til you find out though. Got everything crossed that you're our first BFP.

Cat's just sauntered in caked in mud. This job calls for rubber gloves and a hose. I may lose some fingers in the fight that's about to ensue so I apologise if my typing doesn't make sense from now on.

(Think I'll catch up on your birth stories first...)

Oh HC you posted that message as I was writing so dint want to seem insensitive! Wow what a shit time, so sorry to hear that! must have been awful for you and dp so can see why the decision is a big one! It may be completely different next time tho so dont assume the worse!! besides your due a good luck pregnancy by the sounds of it!!!

And I have an asda curry currently in the oven! Respect for asda

Hi Hernia,

We haven't met, care for a twiglet? Of course you can put your face in my cake - not a problem at all!!

I've opened a second bottle of Sancerre so dig in. I will be departing shortly though as Eastenders is about to start and I see whether Tanya spills the beans to anyone...

I'll be back on afterwards.

Clandy, thanks hun. It was pretty awful. But DD is sooooo worth it.

Double respect for ASDA, enjoy your curry!!

xx

Stupid bloody birthing pool!! Was sh*t and cold and I was so terrified of trumping and making bubbles I had my booty stuck out in the air !!

Oh I know what ya mean hernia they are bloody wonderful but bit sure I can keep up with my little houdini today she has literally been bouncing off the walks and gas the egg on head to prove it!! I was told girls are calm and lovely.... Obv nobody told her this!!

Bet she is HC!

Oh has not gas.... Stupid fat fingers! Although she had some hilarious gas in the bath but that is another story....

HC - Just to clear this one up, it's not the shop that is the problem but some of the complete idiots that went at the same time as me, DD howling the whole way round and the bizarre car park layout. Agree though, good curries. It's like DD saves tantrums for particular stores.

HC again - re your birth - holy cow, that is just about the worst I've heard, have heard all those things before but not all to the same person!

Clandy was a hot morning here in London.

Actually, where is everyone?

Haha asda does seem to attract the weirdos!!! (me???) and dd likes to pluck things off shelves and insist on eating a variety of things (usually messy) so that most is eaten before I even get to the till.

I am in (not so glam) morecambe

Thanks Horrid Cold. The icing is delicious. Your birth story sounds awful - you're a brave gal!

Clandy - Hilarious thought of you guffing in birthing pool. It's put me right off having one. I was terrified of having a poo during labour. Think I may have popped out a little 'nut' before DS arrived. Oh, the shame...