Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

oh god - just been to the loo and there is a little bit of blood [scared emoticon]

WTF??? it is just a little bit (like not enough for a panty liner) but more than spotting.

let me into that fecking padded cell - WTF is going on? please tell me this could be implantation...

Morning - happy August one and all!

IQ - I am so with you on the car thing. My factors are 5 doors (putting a baby seat into a 3 door car looks tough and my PMA tells me that there shall be a baby seat to think of in the not too distant future), it moves when i press the accelerator and....that's about it!

It was indeed a good wedding. Far far too much free booze hence the hangover. However some friends who live abroad were also nearby so we caught up with them briefly. They have a 4 year old and a 4 month old and the last time I saw them they were pg with the eldest - they were lovely kids, so happy to have met them, even if it was with a stinking hangover (I tried not to breathe on them )

eve glad to hear camp went well

missg here's hopign it's just too early for the BFP to announce itself

DH goes to Japan tomorrow until Saturday. AF has finally stopped trickling on so hopefully get some SWI in tonight before he leaves. Then he returns Saturday and we go to Ibiza on Sunday so plenty of "trying" while we're there. This may feel like the longest week ever.

[waves to everyone else]

summer opening door to padded cell and gently pushing you in

Sounds like implantation bleeding. Take lots of deep breaths and if there are any around, have a few to distract yourself.

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Right don't immediately panic (yes it's not exactly easy but do try). Ok firstly when is your AF due? It might be hormonal fluctuation which happens in and around the time your AF is due as the body hasn't quite settled into it's new state. Additionally as you were having AF cramps it could be the bean borrowing down in the uterus and getting comfy.

Best thing is to sit quietly for a few hours....are you at work? Can you leave and go home and put your feet up with a DVD?

Feel free to come and sit with me in the padded cell.....I shall send you positive bump vibes!!! Xxxx

summer It absolutely could be implantation! You know this! As much as I can't guarantee a good outcome for you, the odds really on your side right now (especially minus any proper pain) that it's just the eary pg spotting that lots of women get in a healthy pregnancy. Hang in there. Were you planning on an early scan? Will your doctor refer you to the epu given your previous history?

IQ DP is a used car trader so I have far more than my fair share and several other women's share of 'look at this car I'm interested in, it does x miles to the gallon, only done y miles, not a mark on it blah blah blahblahblah mostly I'm supportive and ask questions/offer another point of view, other times I simply humour him but sometimes? Ugh. Add to the mix that I do not have a driving license and so couldn't really give a fig about cars

As for me, I am pretty sure I'm 9dpo (although fertility friend currently has me at 11dpo). Bfn this morning, which is fine as it's still very early. I think right now I'll just be happy if my lp returns to its usual length. 9 days last month was awful. So beyond anything, I don't want af to arrive tomorrow for reasons not actually connected to wanting a bfp!

bless him DH has been on the phone - he has been googling 'implantation bleeding' he has said what you have all just said!

just been back to loo - it has gone brown now, no more stuff. this is so not like it was in March (nor 3 years ago when i think i had a CP). i am not feeling dizzy, not in pain (save for a little mild cramping but think that is ok). trying not to panic! DH wants me to ring his mum (former midwife) but i said that i dont want this to be the way we break the news to her! especially if all is well. i may ring her tomorrow if it continues.

aaaaaaaaand breathe.

thanks guys (i bloomin love mumsnet me!)

ps - manda i am going to ask my GP about an early scan - bet they say no though as the maternity unit has just merged with another one and they are chocker

Summer yep, sounds like implantation bleeding. You got your bfp a couple of days before AF was due, didn't you? Well, it's definitely implantation bleeding then. I am sure of it.

YY missg got BFP at CD26, been back to loo and the brown spotting is less (it was dark red before lunch - but just a little bit..)

(loving mandas mild bollocking - YY i do know this! )

Right need some distraction - oo cars - yep i know bugger all about them too, when i first got a car i told a colleague that i had a four litre micra with one door (obv it was 1litre four door but i liked my other version...) he teased me for years about that one!

summer hope you?re doing ok?very sweet of your DH to be googling implantation bleeding!! My DH can?t cope with thought of bleeding of any sort from down there so that?s the last thing he?d be doing!! Hope you?re nice and comfy in the padded cell with the metalling music blaring out loud and clear! Anyway?stay caaaaalm if you can!!

whatso are you feeling more alive today? Sounds like a ?busy? day on Saturday with the old but glad you had a good day!

eve enjoy your week off and time at your Mum?s, sorry to hear AF still not appeared but glad the camp went well (maybe not having AF whilst camping is a god thing )

missg I thought you were doing well saying you were going to wait until tomorrow to POAS...grrrr for continued waiting and metalling!! And thank you for the thread slogan reminder!!

IQ I like the new name for the bean last time we had a new name each week to reflect size?so from lentil to blueberry to raspberry etc?we?d got to Kiwi when we found out we hadn?t really got past the lentil point I think sticking with one name is better and biscuit is great!!

manda hang in there with the 2ww full on metalling and here?s hoping for a longer LP!!

As for me? summer sorry, misunderstood your WTF cycle comment?really hoping for a ?normal? cycle whatever that is but it will only be the first proper one since MC/ERPC so I might be being a bit hopeful! AF seems to have gone again for the moment so will just have to wait and see and get lots of SWI in whenever we can

Oh joy?another meeting? when am I going to get any work done?!?

sorry i am being completely over indulgent today but....

...i am bleeding again! again not enough for a pad but FFS

i have decided i am going to bear out whatever the feck this is and test again at the weekend. if it is BFP then i am going to do the victory dance but if BFN then thats that. starting to think it is probably on its way out but then i get a moment of clarity by reading babycentre/mn/this thread and it is all ok again

sorry for overindulgence i will be 'back in the room' soon enough

Sorry v.quick post before leaving for home in 5 mins (so will be back later!) but just wanted to give summer a big bozie (scottish word for hug, just as it sounds!). It really does sounds like implantation bleeding to me but I know that doesn't help the mentalling (or, at was said above it's just your hormones playing up as AF would have been due).

This thread is all about us being there for each other so please use us when-ever necessary!! xxx

Waves to all and promises to be back later! x

Oh Summer I'm not surprised you are metalling. But, remember, I am just around the corner in the 2ww section of the mosh pit, and can easily jump over there into the newly upduffed room and knock some sense into you!

Try not to panic. I know it's easier said than done. But, as we have no crystal ball or blue pee, or ability to see inside our own bodies, you just need to hang on in here and stay strong. In the mean time, we are all here to support you (which could involved anything from a big virtual hug to a clip around the pierced ear )

I am PMA'ing for you, even if you don't feel that way yourself just now. x

thanks so much guys. just been back to loo (god i have lived in there today!) and still bleeding. going to nip to boots for some pads in a bit (working late as i have myfirst counselling sesh tonight ) DH reckons i shouldnt go to counselling but i am going to anyway. i am also going to buy another digi pack (£12 for peace of mind!) and do it later in the week.

this is crap - we were so excited on Friday night! trying to stay positive with the PMA but actually just feel a bit flat

thank you for the hugs and particularly the bozie

Takes marathon and summer to the side of the stage and gives them some lovely non alcoholic wine to cool off in this bloody hot weather.

Were all here for you ready to listen at any given time or day so don't feel self indulgent if you can't over indulge here with your fellow metal head who can you self indulge with!!!!

Now for my self indulgent moment - I was soooo hot in town today I went to buy a more lightweight top - tried on 2 in my normal size and was and complained to the shop lady about their sizes being all weird. Then went one shop down where I picked up the next size up by mistake but found it was perfect......felt really bad for moaning at the shop assistant in the previous shop but was too embarrassed to go back and apologise .....obviously my body has changed more than I first thought!!! But as my good deed for the day and gave two girls 10p as they didn't quite have enough in superdrug for the matching body sprays they wanted......bless them they were so pleased.....made me feel very !!

Right will catch up properly later but must go and eat my fruit platter prepared by DH who is determined to improve my diet!!

Love to you all xxxx

Oh Summer I can only imagine what you must be feeling. I'm sure the girls are right and it's just implantation. Keeping everything crossed for you, the padded cell is here for as much head bashing as deemed necessary to keep you sane.

MissG you must be a right metal head right now (see what I did there). I hope there's some good news for you in the next few days.

Eve glad you enjoyed camp. Camping is not for me, if I can't plug in a hairdryer I'm not interested

Blue your story about kiwis and lentils made me smile in a rueful way. How sad for us all to get so excited and then to be so let down. It makes me down that I'll never again have a relaxed and happy pregnancy. I loved being pg with DD.

IQ glad you're getting bigger! Is that your bazookers? I know faff all about cars I'm afraid, apart from the fact that mine is blue. I'll have a strawberry please

Well, I have news.... I didn't want a cup of tea this morning! Un. heard. of. Is that a symptom do you think?

Waves to Pie, Shimmery and anyone I've missed.

marathon please read this below!!!

Early pregnancy symptoms include:

• feeling sick or going off food that the woman previously enjoyed or a metallic taste in the mouth
• constipation
• fatigue
• tender, larger breasts

I think this covers the pair of us !!!

Xxxx

Sorry about this but I am a little confused is it possible to get a bfp before implantation? I didn't think your body started producing hcg until the bean had implanted itself? In which case summer it sounds like it's more likely to be a hormonal thing around the time of your period rather than implantation

IQ yeah to growing out of your tops already How's the prunes...are they still working their magic?

marathon yeah to going off tea but how true your earlier statement is...I think that's one of the things I feel most robbed of TBH (aside from the obvious)...as I know that when, when not if, (PMA!!) I am expecting again it won't be as innocent and I don't know if I'll dare name it at all as we had such fun renaming it each week as we read the section in the book about what we thought was happening that week which now is really quite sad...

...but back to being positive we have 3 BFPs...no, wait... 4 including cuttlefish to look after on this thread now which is very exciting and several in the 2ww to encourage incessant testing and those of us SWI at every possible moment

summer much crossing of fingers and sympathetic head banging from me. I hope those newly purchased pads go unused as the bleeding buggers off.

summer I just want to clarify that of course I am sooo hoping all is ok with you and that the bleeding has stopped, if I'm wrong re. the implantation thing mentioned above then feel free to be with me but I know that for me I always like to try and have some idea in this whole mass of craziness that is TTC/pregnancy post MC what might be going on inside and wouldn't want you to be convinced of something if it turned out not to be quite right...again, if I'm wrong then I sincerely apologise and hope I've not caused any further upset....

Ladies i am sorry to say that my bean has gone the bleeding got heavier as the afternoon went on and i bought a CB digi. Went to Selfridges loos at 5.30pm, sorted myself out (ie loads of blood and pads..) and did the digi test. I got a BFN. The CB digis are super sensitive so i know for sure. I now have a super pad on and am cramping big style.

DH and i are devastated. I still went to my counselling session (she was lovely btw). Came home and DH has insisted i take tomorrow off. DMIL is a former midwife and she was wonderful, she reckons i should go to my GP, not that they can do anything but it should go on record that i have had 2 MCs in recent months and if it happens again they may refer me for hormone injections when i am preggy to help it along.

Sorry to bring the thread down and blue dont be daft - we are all about the whole TTC thing so you have caused no upset at all - just glad to see we are all a bit about it all!!

Marathon i am rooting for you! yippeeee to not liking tea and IQ congrats on the mahoosive boobies!!

once again i am staying on this thread - your support today has been awesome and DH is thanking you too you have all really kept me on track so thank you. actually i think me and DH are going to crack on again this month - so tits out, head up and PMA all the way to (another) BFP!

whatso crank up the metal as i am on the beer!

Oh summer, I am sending lots and lots of big bozies down your way xx I hope you are at home today and being gentle on yourself.

I would definitely go and see your GP and get your m/c on record. I know up here that if you are 35+ and have had 2 m/c they will do tests. Is that the same down your way? I would certainly push for it if they don't.

I have been doing lots and lots of googling and reading about the benefits (have yet to find any negatives?) of acupunture post m/c and for helping with fertility (conception, hormone levels etc). I had a short LP before having DS but since the m/c it's been ridiculous so I am hoping this might help. I'm pretty sure I have low progesterone levels and have read 50mg of B6 can help but i'm going to try the acupunture first. One thing I read about it was that is can increase blood flow to the uterus (marathon thanks so much for asking on the other thread for me, very much appreciated).

Better get back to work, have a meeting at 8.30am but I just wanted to nip on to see how summer was. I'll reply to everybody else when I get a mo later on xxx

Am thinking of you today summer xx

Oh summer I'm so so sorry to read your news what an awful rollercoaster for you these last few months and especially the last few days...you should definitely go to your GP as important to have it on record as they will only start to investigate things after 3MC I think...but they have to know about them at the time IYSWIM...make sure you rest at home today and take it easy. Once again, so so sorry...

Oh summer sending huge hugs from casa iq for you today. So sorry that the little bean didn't make it - I hope you and DH have had a good snuggle together over night and hope that you are at home today relaxing with your feet up.

Definitely don't leave the thread - were all here for you no matter what and we would miss you loads if you went away.

Sending you and and thinking if you today!!!! Xxxx