Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

Just popped on quickly as have a busy day at work ahead.

Summer am so, so sorry to hear that. Hope you're ok today. Massive hugs to you.

thank you all for you rmessages, it really means a lot (DH is thanking you again ) he really now appreciates the importance of MN and threads like this.

DS decided to wake up between 11.30 and 00.30 last night which has made us even more shattered. we are both off today and DH is going to take me for a nice lunch. and yes we are def getting a GP appointment. I am 38 and have had 2 known MC's and a potential one in 2008 so (hoping i dont have another one) they should put it on record and possibly refer me.

i am still bleeding quite heavily and cramping - might hunt out some codeine from the last time

my mum was a bit when i told her, i think because it was such an early MC, i feel a bit flat about that but i guess she didnt really know what to say.

Anyway, DH and I are def on the PMA all the way (he loves our mantra by the way!!).

pie that is interesting about the acupuncture, mind you my LP is usually spot on 14 days. But i might need something to kick start the next cycle (wondering if i am now in the WTF cycle!! )

Right PMA PMA PMA PMA have a lovely day

waves to everyone - i will get back into name checking in a bit

Oh summer sorry to hear the cramps are bad...hope the codeine kicks in quickly...and that you have a lovely lunch and get an understanding GP! Loving the PMA...well done!

I'm feeling a bit as just had more spotting...filled a panty liner and went through a bit...good job I have dark navy blue trousers on today so frustrating as thought AF had finished last week...grrr...thankfully had one lonely pad left in my handbag otherwise I'd have to have popped out to the shops! Lesson to self for the foreseeable future...make sure have stash of spare Pantyliners and pads in handbag! The joys of what seems to be another WTF cycle following MC! Hoping there's no more today as we have SWI planned for tonight!!

How's everyone else this morning?

Summer I am impressed by your strength and determination. I don't think you can understand the sadness of a very early MC unless you've been through it yourself. Whilst I have no doubt that late MCs/losses are a different kettle of fish altogether (I've never gone past 9weeks 2 days), once you know you're pg, you plan ahead no matter how hard you try not to. To have that taken away is awful. Bigs hugs to you and DH and - of course - more PMA!

Blue sorry to hear you appear to still be a bit WTF. I'm in a similar position, sort of. Now cd 29, occasional spotting since Saturday, but defintely nothing like AF and still bfn. Annoying.

Morning everyone else. Off out to meetings now. Struggling to get motivated today. DD been up sick all night, there's some sort of bug going around at the mo. Nasty.

Had a massive bleed on Saturday, but I've had a couple of scans and there is still a heartbeat so I'm clinging on to sanity (just about).

Late how are you feeling now?

I'm 7+2 MissGiraffe, but can't wait to hit that 12!

Such good news about your scan IQ!! (And your big boobies!!)

Shimmery I'm so sorry about your uncle.

Pie I hope you're feeling a bit better now. It's such an up and down time, and nobody can understand it that hasn't experienced it. I hope the GP can give you some answers.

Marathon, no matter how many people tell me not to worry about lack of symptoms, I still do. I know it's easier said than done, but I'm sure we'll be fine. I keep thinking of all those women who don't find out they're pregnant till really late, they can't have had any either right?

Summerbird I am so, so sorry. Take the time off work. I agree with your DMIL, you should tell the GP.

summer so so sorry for your loss. Echowing others, hope you have a nice lunch, take some time off and generally give yourself a wee rest. Playlist of Iron Maiden, Guns n Roses and Led Zeppelin ready for you anytime.

cuttle sorry to hear of your bleed but glad cuttle junior is hanging on in there.

blue I feel your annoyance, that is exactly what mine did last month. "Surprise, I'm here!", then tailed off then "I'm back!" Mine had three proper days and then five dribbly (sorry TMI!) days this month and doesn't seem to have returned, I am now at CD11.

pie just before I got pg I had started thinking about accupuncture. I am giving it another couple of months and then if I am not updiffed I will start enquiring about it I think.

well the GP was uneventful, he noted it for the records and said 'oh so you got PG quite quickly this time' errr yes it was but you try knicker checking - foraging for EWCM (pulling it between your fingers and marvelling at how it goes stringy - no? - just me then ) counting down the 2WW yada yada yada

anyway - he was v sweet, agreed that it was likely that i had a MMC 3 years ago, noted the now 3 MCs and said to let them know if i get another one. no real advice but he did say to leave it a month/cycle before TTC again (me and DH were like - yeah right )

whatso i will have a spot of Led Zep if you please..?

cuttle soooo pleased you saw a heartbeat, i know how stressful it all is, so hang on in there little cuttlebean

missg your post summed up exactly how i feel so thank you sorry about DD being sick - i hate it when DS is poorly (and the clean up operation is rather rank too i know!)

blue you made me giggle about your lonely pad in handbag!

i said to DH today that i am gonna be shit scared next time i am PG - however i have done a U Turn on that - i have decided that PMA is my life mantra. There is no reason why the next PG should go tits up.

Sending healthy bump vibes to marathon IQ and cuttle and waving frantically to shimmery eve pie baby manda and everyone else in da mosh pit xxxxx

ps - you all ROCK!

summer LOL at your comments re. my lonely panty liner!! Currently giggling at my desk but of course there's no no way that I'm explaining what's making me giggle to any of my colleagues if they were to ask...but then they're all male so just give me strange looks when I get the giggles anyway!!

cuttle sorry to hear about your bleeding but glad minicuttle seems to be hanging in there!!

whatso glad to hear AF seems to have gone for you...I'm just prepared now for her to hang around and be irritating this cycle...I'm CD10 today but who know's what cycle length will be...answers on a postcard anyone?!? My cycles pre-MC had reached a record 37 days so hoping I might be back to a more normal 28 days after all of this?

missg how very frustrating to still be getting bfn yet no AF... hoping you get some answers soon! Hope DD better soon too and doesn't 'spread the love yucky germs ' to you as well!

Oh Summer I have no clue what to say. I'm so sorry that it wasn't to be. I'm glad the GP has noted it for you so that hopefully you can get some answers if it happens again. Just remember that it was very early, so don't draw any conclusions as it's really common. Why did the doc think you should wait a cycle before ttc again? Surely there's no reason for that when the mc was close to when your AF was due? You sound like you're dealing with it so well (what would we do without MissG's mantra eh?) and DH sounds like a gem.

You rock (too) lady!

Blue how frustrating. If it's any consolation, I bled randomly after my ERPC until my BFP. Only spotting, but it was totally random and unpredictable.

Cuttle sorry to hear of your bleed but glad little Cuttlett is still thriving. When is your next scan?

MissG WTF? You must be going mental (or should that be metal?!). What was the length of your last cycle? Do you think it's just taking time for them to settle down?

No news here, DD up all night, the heat really didn't agree with her, so I'm a zombie today. Have been off my food a bit this morning, well anything healthy anyway, I am managing crisps, crackers and chocolate though

Hope everyone else is ok waves

thank you marathon the GP said that there was no 'scientific' reason why he gave that advice, it was only for me really - psychologically and also to make sure everything 'clears out' in there we are ignoring that advice anyway!

lunch was fabulous - large glass of sauvignon blanc = not such a good idea..

summerbird73 I have been lurking on this thread for a while and I just wanted to say that your PMA is really inspirational. I hope to be a bit more like you :)

thank you farfallarocks feel free to join in anytime - we are all a bit metal

in truth i am so pee'd off by everything that has happened the last few months i am clinging to anything positive and trying to look to the future. but thank you for your comment.

Oh, summer I'm so sorry. And awed by your positivity! I'm sorry about your Mum's response, too, but then y'know, things were different back in their day, when they wouldn't have gotten a positive test at such an early juncture. But it certainly won't hurt to explain to her how it does hurt because, as has been mentioned, when that second line appears, you make a space in your life for that person you're expecting to arrive. When those thoughts and plans are taken away, of course it's hard. But, yes! PMA all the way to your healthy bean. Glad you're ignoring GP's 'wait a month' advice

Right. I'm still blody confused! I am now of the impression that I may be just five days past O. Reason being that when I put my temp in today, I thought 'ah, that looks FAR more how it used to (preMMC), nice even temps...' and then got to thinking about that super dark opk I got at what i THOUGHT was 4DPO. I hadn't entered the opk onto my chart and when I did, bam, it gives me CD25 as O, currently 5DPO. Thank goodness, we'd actually SWI that day as we'd given up being so very regular, thinking we'd already covered our bases.

pie and anyone else who charts, what do you think:

My chart

Evening all

Summer - so sorry to hear what you have gone through. Please take very good care of yourself and I know you will soon have that much wanted baby on the way. PMA. Go and have lots of beer, pate and blue cheese.

IQ - I am sure the family are really excited for you. They only fuss because they care you know. As for the car I am with you on that. So long as it goes I don't much care what it is.

Whatso - glad you enjoyed the wedding. Sorry to hear DH is away again. Enjoy the peace and quiet.

Manda and miss G - fingers crossed you get bfp soon :-)

Cuttle - hang on in there. Thinking of you.

As for me, as I typed yesterday no AF guess what it turned up. No pain or anything. Which surprised me as I have had no periods for years due to being on the pill. So here I am waiting to get TTC. So will have head like mush in 3 weeks time..... excited and feel sick at the thought of it all.

I am off to Skeg tomorrow with my sister, niece and mother for a few days. Pray the weather holds and I will catch up with you all on Friday.

well let me be the first to congratulate you on your AF eve at least you are on the rocky road of metalling moshing and all round rocking!

manda thank you again for your words, i am trying to work out how i am going to explain this to my mother, but as you say 'in her day' they didnt know until circa 8 weeks that they were preggy. as i explained to DMIL last night - that is not disputed but i know my cycles and i knew on Friday night that i was PG (she did understand this BTW but then she is a nurse/former midwife)

I checked your charts manda but must confess that i aint got a clue what it is all about, i wanted to understand it though i have never used FF before you see so am a bit of a novice (i may be tempted to join at some point)

well i located the codeine and am all fluffiness seriously though i feel a lot better tonight. will prob be at work tomorrow thereforeishouldbeonmnmuchmorefrequently

Evening all

Blue thanks for the GnT, much appreciated

Summer you are my heroine today. You may be our PMA postergirl. There you are up on the wall of the padded cell - along with Page, Plant, Axl Rose, Ozzy Osbourne (I've run out of heavy metal peeps now!)

Bit bored tonight. Tried to get to a yoga class but couldn't finish work early enough so missed it. DH in Japan so ate random food, watched loads of telly and generally lazed around. Dirty plates are still residing on kitchen work surfaces and the washing machine needs emptying - must get a spurt of energy before hitting the sack!

Bloody hell - I have not logged on for 24 hours and I now can't keep up!

Firstly, Summer, I cannot not add anything that anyone else has managed not to add but want to also add, I hope you are okay. From your posts you seem relatively positive but, as I have realised, this is an excellent place when you feel less than postive.

I'm going to go now as I can't add anything that anyone else hasn't already (and am also exhausted!) but wanted to send you hugggs.

x

ps fucking mother nature!

Right really must catch up with everyone today - I have woken up and have my 'kitchen' as DH is calling it all ready with my early morning supplies. I have crackers if needed, water my dry throat during the night, a kettle and my ginger and lemon tea bags. Am currently sleeping in the spare bed cos it's more comfortable (memory foam) and DH took one look at it all and said "you look all cosy here.....but when you put the kettle on in the morning don't forget to bring me a cup in bed"......I can't repeat here what I said but I feel he got the message....ha ha ha !!!!

summer firstly how are you doing today? Hope you are well and staying positive. As for not waiting a month I don't think it makes much difference - best thing to do is pamper yourself and see how it all goes!!! Xxxx

blue sorry the witch came back to get you - the image of that lonely pad in the bottom of your bag also made me giggle!!!

MissG how is your little one now? Hopefully was only a 24 hour thing.....bless them it is horrible seeing them like that.

cuttlefish glad to see that the little one is staying strong - will be keepings fingers crossed for you up to the 12 week mark then hopeful all will be well from there!!!

whatso sending positive vibes that your cycle sorts itself out and doesn't go for a record 37 days again.......crazy times!!!!

marathon am loving your new diet of crisps, crackers and chocolate.....all this seems to be pointing towards good things. Currently eating a cracker in bed to settle my tummy - it's all too random - woke up yesterday and felt amazing (so obviously started to worry)....I've woken up today and feel like a bag of hell (so obviously feel more relaxed) but Im not complaining I feel blessed to still be pg (as far as I know) and so will endure all of this with a smile on my face and a spring in my step!!!!

Manda your just teasing us all now...he he he!!! Well hoping that all this waiting will be for an exciting reason!!!

eve welcome to the SWI part of the padded cell.....glad things seem to be moving forward and I'm hoping for good news soon from you!!! Hope you have a great time in Skegness.

Hi to baby, shimmery, poppy, pie - right I suppose I better get up and get ready for work......don't really want to go but hey ho I need the money right now for all DH's grand baby plans!!!!!

Love to all - will catch up later at work where I know all of you will be posting like mad!!!!

Morning all... time for a

baby hope you?re doing ok?is everything starting to settle down physically now?

IQ your morning ?kitchen? sounds fab!! LOL at DH wanting you to take him tea as well?he should be waiting on you!!

summer how are you feeling today? Have the cramps died down at all? Are you back to work? Thinking of you!!

Grrr?well?SHE is back again this morning?maybe it?s a morning thing? Nothing yesterday afternoon/evening but then back again today?ho?hum?trying to see it as ?normal? but still rather frustrating?but we did manage some SWI last night and I also worked out that if we don?t conceive this cycle and if my cycle is around 30 days then I should be ovulating while we?re on holiday in September which will be perfect for lots of relaxed SWI!! So I am back with the PMA

Morning all,

Yep, Marathon I think I just need to take a chill pill and let my body readjust. AF has arrived with a vengeance today . So that was 4 days of spotting (which I've never had before AF pre-MC) then AF arrives on CD 30, 2-3 days later than ususal. I suppose I shouldn't have expected everything to just spring back to normality - especially after almost 5 weeks to get a BFN and over 7 to get first AF after ERPC. Seems the pre-AF spotting sounds quite common though?

Eve looks like we're very close in cycles then!! Will look forward (??) to much metalling in 3 weeks time with you!

IQ my DD's not so much a little one anymore, she's 15 Still not nice seeing her sick right enough. But she's much better now, although my Bro has gone down with the bug now. My DD got it from my nephew, then his Mum got sick, and my Bro jjst text to say he';s been projectile vomitting all morning (his will be way worse of course). Am hoping I've escaped it!!

Blue nice touch with the ice cold G&T with lime. I hate it when you get one in a bar with no lime. Shouldn't be allowed. Is that you now in full SWI mode??

Cuttle you must've got some fright. Glad to hear all is well though and you got a sneaky peek at your tiny person

Pie nice touch with the big bozies! I had never heard that until I became friends with some people from the North East.

Manda, Have never charted but hope it becomes clear for you soon (preferably with a bfp in a weeks time )

And last, but not least Summer. Hope you are still staying strong, poster girl. But if you need to have a rant, a scream, a weep, or a right good old full-on metalling "F this" episode, we are all here - with all varieties of booze and tunes to help you out! Can I be contraversial and suggest a little change and suggest some Basement Jaxx?? Because I certainly don't have a clue where my heads been at these past few weeks, but I do know that you lot have helped me figure, or even just ride it, out. Cheers ladies!!

Hi everyone else Whatso, baby, shimmery, poppy and anyone else lurking. x

That's the thing, isn't it, blue ? We have to hold on to anything positive that we can because there are so many variables we can't control and as a control freak it's a nightmare for me! Sorry af is hanging around. You WILL get back on track.

Thinking of you, summer

Hey, iq it's not me with the teasing but fertility friend keeps changing its AI mind. Also, the type of ic I used that gave me that line (the same day I got the blaring postive opk), I've read elsewhere of them showing positive for other women as they O'd. Therefore, I'm 100% mostly kinda sure I am 6dpo now. Strangely enough, bfn this morning

Last night went to dinner at this great portguese restaurant and had a cosmo followed by a v&(slimline)t and the 2 freebie sambuca/applejuice shots they give at the end in the hour and 20 we were there (ate gambas picante to start followed by an amazing steak in maderia sauce). That is more alcohol than I've drank in the last two years! I was squiffy giggly on the way home then went VERY tired... and the baby just wouldn't sleep! He kept lolling all over me (SO very hot last night!) and I was nearly crying for wantin to just sleep and cursing having drank anything at all I shall stick to being teetotal after that bad experience!

x-post with you missG Ugh to all the spotting and now AF. Hearing how we all kinda have the same wtf cycles does help me be a bit more zen about it all. It IS normal for it all to be messed up for a while (and I've just assumed that because my loss was later, it takes longer than everyone else to get back on track. Seem to be getting there, this cycle... although O was much later than usual!)

Can I just add: burning nipples and feel kinda sick. If it's nothing, I have a record here so I don't get excited by it another month... if it IS something, this is my record of first noticing something might be up!

On no account must any of you start metalling on my behalf with the information!