Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

That's it, I give up, I can't keep up with you all and haven't got a bloody clue what's going on - Safari photos???

MissG you're bound to be hormonal and emotional at the moment. I'm not religious but I'm sure you're Mum is there somewhere and knows exactly what's going on. She'll be sending you lots of hugs and happy vibes to cheer you up. As Eve says, it's going to be an emotional 8 months so you'd better buy in bulk on the Kleenex.

Glad you said about the North Face jacket, I was just about to wash mine!

IQ did the midwife say that the protective fat pouch is meant to spread to the thighs, hips, chin and arse? So is getting fat good??? Your director sounds miserable, she's probably very unhappy and lonely in life and takes it out on the only people around, her colleagues. Keep your chipper up and remember that maternity leave will be along soon

Baby I felt totally desperate after my mmc, like I'd missed my chance and I was too old. I even talked to DH about IVF! He thought I'd lost the plot. I then found some stats on a website (it may have been research on the Royal College of Obs and Gynae, I can't remember but it was reputable) and it said that over 80% of people who had suffered miscarriage went on to have a baby or be pregnant within 2 years. The research included people who had changed their minds about having a baby and/or split up so the 20% would largely be explained by this. It made me feel so much better. Your day WILL come, boobs out, PMA!

Also, my DH has two DCs already, this will be number 4 for him so totally understand where you're coming from. I do find myself getting resentful sometimes when I feel that I spend my weekends washing, cooking and taking care of his children but I try so hard not to as I know it's a slippery slope and they really are lovely.

I do resent that his ex gets 60% of our income though (long story, settlement was agreed when we didn't have DD and it took into account the two children, my income along with DH's, the fact that she didn't work and was single - all factors that have since changed, but DH doesn't want to rock the boat by going back to court) and get quite riled when I see her about town going shopping for fancy new clothes and thinking that DH is slogging his guts out and getting stressed and she's waltzing around looking immaculate without a care in the world. She's also got a partner and they've been together for two years and she pretends that he doesn't live with her so that DH can't use it against her in court (not that he would). It seems so immoral to me, especially as it was a mutual split and no one was to blame.

Rant over. Sorry.

Blue totally agree that your friend could do with some rest and tlc. It's a good thing you're there to look after her. Send her a Krispy Kreme from us.

Summer did you now there's some sort of Giraffe hotel in Africa where you can feed them at Breakfast and they poke their head through your bedroom window? My friends (who are Giraffe obsessed) went for their honeymoon and said it was fab.

Zebra if the bleeding has stopped it's time to go go go girl! There's no need to wait for AF to get started with the SWI. In fact, I don't think IQ had an AF before getting pg again (is that right?).

Anyway, I need to go and get some food I'm famished, I've got some pecan pie in the fridge, anyone want some??? I got it to help along my protective fat bulge

I've missed loads of people, sorry, big hello to everyone I've missed.

It posted, wooo hooo!

Oh, and hello poppy

marathon i am seething on your behalf about your situation, it must be so hard for your DH not wanting to rock the boat, after all they are his DC's which i can completely understand, but then you are losing a mahoosive chunk of your incomings for Mrs SwanningAbout woman. You are a star.

Not sure how i would feel about a Giraffe's head popping in through my window - although DS would be absolutely ecstatic!

Big waves and a welcome back to poppy YY my DS is a humungous Peppa Pig fan, as well as the Mr Men Show 'minermen' he calls it - bless!

eve you are the same age as me, i will be 39 in January and i too set my 40th as the 'deadline of doom'. i am in two minds about it at the mo, i dont want to spend DS's toddler years stressing over giving him a DB/DS.

Anyway - DS is a June baby so why not go for another one, at least it gets the birthday parties out of the way in a flash!!

Ok, so I weathered that storm, as it were. Sorry to be cryptic but its just a load of personal crap that I doubt I should offload into cyberspace! But all of your wishes that I feel better soon really did help, than you so much my Safari buddies!

YY to the fast moving thread. Do you mind awfully if I just pick up from here rather than try and name check everything that's happened over the last few? Other than welcome newboes of course (sorry you even need us but we're pretty cool even if I say so myself)

I, uh, need to build up some fat reserves for possible pregnancy, don't I? GREAT Bad thing about several days of high stress? Dropped 2.5 kilos. I assume at least half of that must be water because it's not physcally possible, is it?

Anyhoo. 5dpo. Weird-ass slow rise pattern to my chart that I've never had before and I feel desperate to test already which is clearly insane. I can probably hold out until 7 dpo which is also insane much more sane.

Annnnd, ok, I'll just throw this out there. I think I am pregnant and that it's a girl.

Yup, it's official. I've lost it.

Thanks Poppy yeah to June babies! There's a squad of you now, very exciting! You can compare notes

and Zebra. Lol at your last post. Hormones will do that.

Oh my word Marathon !! 60% ??? My ex is now married to a millionnaire's daughter, had a massive house bought for them, and I get £25/wk! £25!!!!!! Doesn't even cover DD and her friends' takeaway on a Saturday night! He now gives her £10 pocket money every Saturday, which I suppose is something. But, I'm the same, have never wanted to rock the boat. And yes to some pecan pie please yum. (I think the only cakes I don't like are french fancies!)

Summer thanks for the extra KK, went down in one. Your post wasn't harsh, just straight to the point . Can't sit about blubbering all day!

It's Disney's Animal Kingdom Resort, the giraffes are right there on the grass outside your hotel. Amazing! It's the most expensive hotal in Disney though (I've only stayed in the cheaper ones). I did feed the giraffes at Busch Gardens which was awesome! Their heads are freakin Huuuuuuge!

Hehe Manda you're not insane.... well, not any more insane that the rest of us! PMA is what it's all about! On the first day I got a very very faint line, a friend of mine put on Facebook "Saw 3 magpies in the garden, so someone's having a girl, Question is: who??" and I was like "ooooooooohhhhhhhhhh" . As she only lives across the road. I darted to the window to try to spot said magpies. I didn't but I still think it was an omen. Similar level of insanity??

Good to hear there's light at the end of the tunnel and you're feeling a bit brighter now

Buggeration! There is a lot to keep up with. Like some of the others, I am sorry if I miss anyone or anything out.

Re my DH's DS - I agree with those who pointed out his dilemma too, and this is why I would not want him to know about any resentment. Its not fair on him. I would also think him an absolute twat if he didn't have anything to do with his DS, even though I, between ourselves, wish there wasn't a DS to consider at times. It has never really been that much of an issue between us (unless you count my present grumblings) and I have always tried to seem very pleased to see his DS to the point where DH once said '.... and I know you think the world of him.' His ex wife (not the mother of the DS) used to heavily resent the fact he had a DS from a previous relationship (he was born when DH was 22) and and it often came up in arguments, so I have tried to be the opposite. Normally it's fine but if it put him off TTC I'd be pissed off.

However... today, apropos of nothing he started talking about baby names! The boys name he likes (Alfie) is very popular and I have said before that I am not keen due to this, but DH loves it and it was his grandad's name. He was saying this morning that he thinks we ought to choose a name due to what it means to us rather than not choose it despite liking it and sentimental value because it's very popular. Can kind of see his point but still not sure due to the popularity at the moment.

MarathonMama I am gobsmacked that your DH's ex gets 60% of your income! That makes the £250 a month my DH pays look like nothing! Does your DH know how you feel or are you like me and keep it to yourself? My DH got pursued by child support by his ex and they said he was actually, at the time, paying more than he had to. But then his salary doubled, and he started to pay more, but didn't tell his ex about his sudden wage increase. Oh yes, and totally unrelated, I think you might have lost it too!

So, yes, I too want to be in the Safari Animals as, after all, I am the Babysaurus! When I first came up with the nickname I didn't think of the shortened version, 'Baby', which sounds as if we are being Americanised and 'cute' (at least it does to me.)

June babies eh? I think I could try for that one too! To be honest, I think it would be very unlikely at the moment to manage to do it at the right time etc as I wouldn't have a clue when I'm ovulating. I know we could just shag like mad constantly but at the moment its not really happening.

Hearing the ages of some of you has made me feel less anxious about TTC too. I am 37 in a fortnight (probably said this before) and as I also have this it can make things more tricky. Have been being told by various 'specialists' to get cracking if considering TTCing for several years before we finally decided we wanted to as it can be a problem. I am fine with it (ie controlling it - insulin / diet etc) and am very healthy (largely due to the dog) but there is still a higher chance of things going tits up unfortunately. My mother seemed convinced that may have been why I had the MC but I refuse to think like that as that is where madness lies...

Morning all...just a quick post to say hello! Feeling quite this morning as AF seems to have gone...so CD9 today and I bled CD1-CD5, nothing for CD6, spotting on the morning of CD7 and nothing since...yeah!! Much better than spotting to CD11 last cycle!! Roll on the weekend and holiday so we can get cracking with the SWI!! Definitely PMA for a June baby (though not on 20th as that's my birthday )

Sorry for not namechecking but must crack on with my work! Catch you later...

morning all - any pecan pie left? thought not - will just polish off the last of the cookies i bought from sainsbos last night, there is one left if you are quick!

blue yayy for AF packing her bags, now for the fun time! before the dreaded 2WW. I am on CD6 now so holding on for next week

baby your mums comment sounds just like my own mum, just ignore it as the diabetes is nothing to do with the MC there is a chance you could get Gestational Diabetes in pregnancy but you are already a pro with the sugar levels and insulin etc so you will be fine. Mothers eh? And it sounds like DH is certainly warming to the idea, i wouldnt worry about the names yet, you will persuade him i am sure! although i do really like Alfie. DS has a popular name in the grand scheme of things but there isnt anyone in his nursery with the same name so i like to think it is unique (even tho it isnt - his name is the same as the recently married Duke of Cambridge husband of Kate).

PMSL at missg stalking magpies! just keep that crash helmet on a little longer eh? IKWYM about Giraffes heads, we saw some at Chester Zoo on DSs birthday and one of them put his head down to us and it was mahoosive! We all love them though

welcome back manda no need for explanation just help yourself to that last cookie and come and have a morning

Morning all,
Feel quite perky this morning as DH has just been offered some freelance work which will hopefully lead to more. His work does this, it goes it stops and starts but he currently had close to nothing lined up (which is why he was stressing.)

Er... You can't get gestational diabetes if you already have a form of diabetes, I think it's physically impossible. My pancreas doesn't produce any insulin, it stopped working when I was 4 so I have had to inject etc since then. Whereas the gestational kind is caused by the insulin which is created by the body not working so the patient has to take medication or inject but once the patient has the baby they are back to normal again.

Re the names, my friend has a son called Harry and she said that while that is also meant to be wildly popular, her son is the only Harry in his school. I do like the name Alfie, but would also like to try and find an alternative I like just as much (and am currently failing.)

So, everyone's on course for June (if not currently pregnant) and girls then by the looks of things....?

Oooh, forgot to say - my cousin's girlfriend still hasn't had the baby! The baby, its a boy, was due on the 29th so is not massively late but as she had had so many twinges along with a show etc on Saturday they were convinced it was going to be soon. Every time my phone beeps I think it's them but it's not so far...

Hope I didn't come across too bossy!

I'd much rather have your misconception re diabetes than the usual 'you have to have insulin because you used to be fat' one though - I get variations of this a lot.
The most common type of diabetes is Type 2 which is the one which is linked to lifestyle / obestity. Patients with that type have three treatment options (depending on their health and the way their body reacts) which start at diet, can then mean tablets (and possibly alongside diet) and insulin injections are the absolute last resort.
As I have to have insulin, and am quite open about taking it, people automatically assume I have Type 2 (and often they don't know there is more than one type) and am on the 'last resort' medication. They also assume I have a self inflicted illness, and I have had people be quite open to me about their disapproval.
The media often just say 'diabetes' too, which doesn't help matters as usually it's in an article about obestity which really fucks me off
For example - here
This one is worse as it doesn't mention Type 2 till the second paragraph
and lastly here. This one mentions the two types but I wish they'd make it clearer in the headline!

Rant over but hopefully you can see why the Type 1 / Type 2 thing pisses me off!

Sorry to go on, I realise this is not terribly exciting, but I just read this and am now fuming!

And, take note, none of the links are from the Daily Mail, but are instead from rather more reliable sources.

Yep, in case it's not already obvious, this is a pet hate of mine!

Afternoon All

Just a quick catch up as I feel like death today. Although working through it as there is no point not really. I am at my desk coughing all over my laptop - so no doubt that will get a virus too :-)

Manada - fingers crossed you get what you wish for. It will happen for all us soon.

Baby - it is good that DH is thinking of names it is really positive.

Can't think of much else - June babies would be good, although I would much rather have another boy :-)

Nearly the weekend folks I would be able to smell it but I am v bunged up :-(

My sisters posh wedding on Sunday

Just to share - I am the proud owner of a very pretty facinator not sure of spelling sorry - as I work from home alone I thought I would maximize it use and sit and wear it all day today!

Um, would it ruin the lovely Hello-style safari spread if the somewhat lardy-looking zebra on the end is clutching Summer's Krispy Kremes, Marathon's pecan pie, and that spare chocolate biscuit that was going a while ago?

Also, in keeping with the pleasing wild-animal theme, am sending skunks to IQ's MIL, and Baby's, MissG's and Marathon's partner's exes. Not in a making-light way at all, but more because all the ex situations sound so grim I'm at a loss for anything wise and constructive to add to the already-very-sensible comments. Hence the mature approach instead (skunks). Actually, IQ, thinking about it, your director needs one too, but hope all else is good :).

Baby, was wondering if in your DH's case, nasty ex issues + money concerns might just equal general DH stress, rather than that he's specifically feeling negative about ttc again - so really glad things seem to be looking up for you on that front.

MissG look, I found your lost PMA under a Krispy Kreme, here it is!!! But seriously, reckon in your situation you're very much allowed the odd wobble - sending supportive thoughts and hope you're feeling a bit better today.

Marathon, that's what I heard too, and that with bleeding stopped I'm good to go, but it's been a slightly insane-sounding echo in the back of my mind - it actually really helped to have you say it 'out loud', as it were! Am going to pluck up courage and try to jump into that June boat...

... at Poppy, Summer, Shimmery, Blue and the rest of the June squad.

Eve, sounds rubbish, fact that it's supposed to be summer (just!) adds insult to injury on the crappy colds! and for you asap... (also, files! genius! That's what I need, was starting to be slightly frightened by everyone's memory skills with keeping up :) ).

Manda, welcome back - tell you what, with Summer's girl, and MissG's magpies as well, if I vote 'boy', then one of us must be right on something and we're not all completely loopy over-enthused with our PMA .

Oh, and to the disney giraffe resort! Hope one's bloomin' allowed to go there just as a grown up, and don't need the as-yet-non-existant infant to take for credibility ...

Otherwise, sorry for epic post, at everyone, and apologises profusely for anyone/anything I've missed, or if I've manage to completely muddle anyone up .

Oh, also, Summer, I think Cassidy is great as a middle name. I've only heard it used for girls as a first name, but it's completely neutral as a surname, so I think it works really nicely both ways. And it's a lovely way to remember your Grandad - very sorry for your loss earlier in the year.

(plus, if anyone thinks it's girly, the other thing it makes me think of is Butch Cassidy and cowboy associations, and you don't get much more boy-ish than that :) ).

Everyone's sounding pretty chipper today I can feel the PMA on this thread (god, that sounded so 'Darius from Pop Idol' )

Blue Yeah! to AF buggering off properly (almost) for the first time! Hope your friend at work's feeling a little better?

Eve you have my sympathy! I have been choked up since Saturday night. Feels like this cold is lingering for far too long. I currently look more like Rudolph than Missgiraffe (not that I actually look like a giraffe, being only 5'1"). Lol at you sitting with your fascinator on! Are you excited about the wedding? I love a good wedding. My next one is my FILs in 8 weeks.

Summer Big hug to you. Cassidy is lovely. I think you can get away with almost anything as a middle name. You just need to find a first name that flows with it. And if your DS himself were ever to feel it sounded too girly when he's older, he doesn't need to use it. I know hardly anyone's middle names. My DH wants his Mum's maiden name as a middle name if we have a boy. It's Don. Hardly anything goes with it!! (We did have some juvenille laughs the last time I was pg making up stupid first names to go with though!)

And Baby I know what you mean about common names. But, if Alfie means something special, then I think that should over-ride the fact that it is popular. My DD is Caitlin. When I picked it (at 3 months pg, which was not far off 15 years ago) I ddn't know a single other one! Now there are loads, and I think it was the most popular girls name for one or 2 years after that!

thanks for the donut Zebra . We went to Dinsey for our honeymoon. Had DD with us, but you are never to old!! It's amazing.

Quick wave to everyone

Where has everyone gone???

Am here, am here!

Hi Baby thought you had all gone missing on Safari! I'm currently watching program about Irish dancing (DH snoring on sofa). Their feet move at a million miles an hour!

hello,
some friends of friends children do Irish dancing and it was amazing to see. I used to be a good tap dancer, but a bit rusty now.
Just been out for dinner - me and DH are sick of microwave dinners, SO sick of them that we couldn't face another so went to a Turkish place down the road. Had fabulous stew, with lamb meatballs and lots of veg, along with salad and bulgar wheat. I needed it!
Can't wait to have an oven. In fact, I can't wait to have a kitchen! Be a long while off yet though...

mmmm that sounds amazing! I had spag bol, trusty favourite, not very exciting though! I used to tap dance too! In fact, one of my facebook friends recently put up a picture of us at a dancing display in 1987! Aaaaaahhh..... the memories.......
how long until your kitchen will be ready to be fitted?

Ha! Hahahahahahaha!
That was hollow laughter by the way.
The kitchen is NOWHERE near to being fitted. The walls are plastered, but the floor needs sorting. We have Yorkshire flagstones on the floor but they are half covered in cracked concrete in some places, and they need the gaps sealing in others. So, the 'kitchen' is just a shell of a room with loads of tools and general crap in at the moment.