Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

Just quickly nipping on to give hugs to poppy and blue (and everybody else too of course!)

7dpo for me and zilcho symptoms

I did have a load of blood tests done this morning though (progesterone, thyroid and 8 others) but won't get results back till next week though when we are on hols!

poppy you were told to lose weight at size 8/10!! FFS!! Jeeezuz it is no wonder we all have weight ishooos.

My neighbour and his girlfriend were shagging at 1.30am this morn... i have to say that she could have put a bit more effort into it, if i am being woken with shagging noises at least make them decent noises and not a cats whimper!!

sorry poppy i just realised that my segway from your post was highly inappropriate! my apologies

Hi all,
Poppy sending you hugs and this horrid time. If I were you, I would mention it to the GP. You've got nothing to lose by doing so and it will be good for them to have it on record. If you feel too much of a fraud, tweak your dates a bit

So, Day 2 of the Inlaws visit. I have to say, its going to be a loooong week! MIL is very neurotic / fretty and cannot relax in the holiday cottage 'as it's someone else's house.' She even went to see the owners to ask them if it was okay if me and DH came to visit. She also daren't put the washing machine on if she is not in in case it bursts into flames - the cottage is all brand new, this is the first year they have let it out, and before that the owners (who live next door) had their 22 year old daughter staying there for 6 months before she went travelling. And as far as I know, she survived!

Last night got semi lairy (relatively speaking that is) as both in laws started saying stuff that was so ridiculous I couldn't help but say so. MIL called the police the other day as there 'were some Black lads at the end of the street (they live in a cul de sac in a 70's housing estate) and two of them had hooded tops on.' I had to ask, why a call to the police was neccessary? Were they loud and obnoxious? Throwing things? Playing loud music? Nope, none of those things they were 'just hanging about but we wanted to tell the police as they might have been planning to burgle us.'

We also got into a conversation about Asians living nearby to them (except they called them by the P word as apparently 'that's what they call each other' ) and how nothing can be hung up in the crematorium anymore as it might offend them. And they can't say things like Christmas anymore. There were some other things too but I can't remember the specifics, sure you get the gist. I loudly, and admittedly perhaps a bit rudely, pronounced that to 'sound like absolute bollocks' and then told them to stop believing everything they read in the Daily Mail. I then tried to remember some of the stuff I had read on MN about the Daily Mail / Heil which was very well put and failed as I was pissed. I think the conversation was in 'chat' too as I haven't been able to find it. Their constant worry about the world, and especially with regard to other races is hideous. They are actually very gentle people and would be disgusted about, say, the UKIP or similar but they also believe everything they read in the papers 'as they couldn't print it if it wasn't true.'

Bluecrane hope AF shows up soon so you can cracking on next month. I am still in the WTF cycle as the spotting stopped and now I have nothing. Weird!

Oooops! Must remember to proofread! I meant to say, Poppy, 'hugs AT this horrid time'
Doh!

babysaurus if you didnt live in Yorkshire i would think you were my sister i have said it before but my parents are the same and it shames me to the core. i try to ignore them now, i am also thinking of going teetotal when we see them as always makes me go all Guardian/Indie v their Daily Mail, it always ends in them making me feel like a twat when they are the twats

ok...have sharp pains around my left ovary/front uterus area...similar to implantation last time (when I was in agony with pains and couldn't move/walk for about 30mins...not that bad yet but similar)...trying not to get my hopes up that this might be implantation when it could in all very liklihood be aunty making an early statement that she's about to arrive... if it's what I hope it might be then last time that happened on a Monday evening and I first got a faint bfp on the wed/thurs soooo more waiting to see!!

Hello all

Poppy so sorry to hear what you are going through. And my sense of indignation that you were told to lose weight at BMI 23 is immense!

Had a good chat with my friend from another office (over our firm's messenger system - probably not what it was intended for!) yesterday and feel a lot better just for deciding to go to the doctors for some help. Will give my work's free counselling service a call as well. Basically, I am digging up as much help as posisble to try and get back on an even keel becuase I am boring myself now

Nothing much to report on the TTC front. AF is on day 4 now, so hopefully will have gone by the weekend. Up at my parents with much of DH's family for the bank holiday so hopefully back to DTD by Monday. (DH won't attempt it unless we have the house to ourselves and I must admit the thought of people on the other side of the bedroom wall does put me off too.)

Baby - stay strong, you are doing so well with the inlaws given the Daily Mail views they are spouting! Have some or - whichever helps.

Afternoon all

Poppy - hope you are ok, take things easy, and I echo what the others have said about seeing your (what appears to be useless) GP. Ask for a referral as with all things it can take time.

Summer - Sore boobies are a good sign. I have that aching feeling, if I had sore boobs I would know for sure. Still trying not to over think these things though.

Miss G - poor DH. I am sure he is happy to oblige just needs to have a little sit down before taking up the mantle :-)

Blue - damn those test. Hope the boobs even out soon!

Baby - well done you for standing up to them. I just ignore my mum and SD when they start there is no stopping them.

Well I am nearly half way through the week :-)

Roll on long weekend, then only a week til school starts :-( I will cry. Hope everyone is having a happy Tuesday.

blue sending many implantation type thoughts your way - very promising

Poppy you're attitude is fab, you've taken MissG's mantra to heart. Hope you're feeling ok and not bleeding too heavily. Big fx for the next cycle, boobs out all the way! I agree with the others, it's definitely worth getting on record.

Blue oooh! That sounds promising, keep us up to date. A feel a BFP coming on, someone has to get lucky soon.

Baby we have finally left my PILs house. They sound much like your PILs, it's so hard not to say anything when all you want to do is tell them exactly what you think. Deep breaths marathon, they've gone now...phew.

Nothing to report here, I can't fit into my jeans which I'm hoping is a good sign (it could be all the comfort eating I've been doing at the PIL's and total lack of exercise though).

No symptoms apart from that so just waiting until the 7th now.

Hello to everyone I've missed waves

Hey all, it's not my mum who's the one driving me mad but my in laws! They are here for a week - only five more days!
Its hard to put it across written down but their outbursts last night were more from fear than agression. I realise that saying what they said makes them sound like fans of Nick Griffin but it was actually said in a quite different way. Maybe the washing machine ridiculousness illustrates them better, and also shows they, well MIL not as much FIL, are worriers in the extreme as well as unfortunate readers of the Daily Mail. A scary combo indeed!

My mum also reads the Daily Mail though, but she doesn't have the fret factor to make things worse. Instead she likes to make out she takes it with a pinch of salt but then will say something that proves the complete opposite.

Blue that does sound promising indeed! The waiting is SO tedious though isn't it? I wish you could tell one way or the other without any doubt a mere day after DTD!

I guess after our conversatin at the weekend we can start with the SWI too, but I haven't the foggiest what is going on with my cycle at the moment so it's looking as if it will be a while before I can join you with the serious metalling.

Evening all...well...the pain eased off after about 15mins and hasn't been back...just looked at my diary excel spreadsheet and we SWI 10 and 9 days ago so it could fit with 10 or 9DPO implantation...but trying not to get my hopes up!! Still no sign of AF...

poppy v suprised at your doc suggesting you lose weight with BMI of 23 and size 8/10 hope you're doing ok?

whatso glad you're feeling you can find people to chat all this through with, I think being able to share it does make a huge difference! Hope AF goes away quickly too and doesn't overstay her welcome!

eve it must be hard when DCs start/go back to school when you're used to having them around...

marathon I'd take the jeans not fitting as a good symptom...7th is getting closer...all this waiting in TTC I'm really not a patient enough person for all of this! I keep thinking if I do get a bfp then the real waiting starts to see if everything's ok!!!

baby I'd just SWI anyway and see how you get on...impossible to fully know your cycle post MC I think!

Right...who would like apple and rhubarb crumble? Cream, custard or ice-cream?? true British weather seems to have turned v autumnal so thought a suitable dessert was required!! Not very 'rock n roll' I'm afraid but good homely comfort food!

Blue crumble sounds amazing - pass it this way and the custard... and sending positive vibes your way re implantation

I am ok thanks for asking ladies - feel oddly positive this afternoon. DS has been an absolute delight today, he's at such a funny age (almost 18 months) so I am just enjoying my time with him at the moment

The GP I have seen is a bit useless. I think that rather than say he is an idiot for telling me to lose weight I strongly suspect that he was just trotting out the standard advice. So few GPs really understand PCOS, especially if you don't fall into the typical case (my extremely cynical surgeon friend says that typical PCOS symptoms are taught in medical school as "fat, frumpy and 40" - not helpful! ) so all they can do is tell you what the standard recommendations are.

I was watching (ahem....admission to watching trash tv...) embarrassing bodies the other week and they had someone with PCOS on there too and again they said the same standard line that if you lose weight the symptoms and fertility problems disappear. I was very disappointed - it was a good opportunity to raise awareness of it properly. Shame on you channel 4.

Anyway, didn't mean to write an essay sorry...

Anyone for (or a for those being good)

DH has just told me why his mother thinks the washing machine will burst into flames. A certain model of fridge freezers of the same make have. This doesn't make it any more ridiculous but slightly more understandable (if a little random.)

poppy I'll have a to go with the crumble thanks glad you have had a nice day with your DS!

baby I have heard that washing machines catching fire is strangely common (or maybe used to be when we washed at higher temperatures than 20 or 30 degrees!) but your MIL does sound like she needs to chill a bit! How's the DIY week going?

Poppy I have got frustrated with Embarassing Bodies too (or is it the Fat vs Skinny, might be that now I think of it) referring to how bad diets and so on will lead to 'diabetes.' It is a pet hate of mine, as there are two types and only ONE type is associated with bad diet / lifestyle choices. MIne is because my pancreas doesn't work so I have to inject insulin instead but nine times out of ten people assume it's a self inflicted illness and I 'have it really badly' as I am on insulin rather than diet or tablets.
Grrrr
Sorry, hijacked a bit there but it is my pet hate!

So, ladies, are cycles quite all over for some time post MC? If so, what was the spotting / nearly bleeding / horrid cramping about last week then? Its almost stopped now so not sure if that counts as a period or not. Am clueless!

Poppy - cheers! This is out of medical neccessity due to the in-laws of course.

oh no have i missed the crumble? oh no there is a little bit left, thanks blue i will have custard ta we will all get waaay overweight on this thread with your treats!

my mother is driving me mad - i think she feels guilty about being fecking-useless a tad unsympathetic 3 weeks ago, she is ringing me constantly checking i am ok.... bit late now mother!

cheers poppy i will have a when i have finished my crumble

waves to everyone, nothing much to report tonight other than to check in and grab a bit of crumble!

sleep well

What's that? Some crumble left, just for little old me? Thanks Blue!!

Ooooo

Hope everybody is well! My aim is to get through today without spotting (8dpo) then I will be one day better off than last month!

Had a make up trial last night (am a bridesmaid next month) and it looked ace! How can I be nearly 40 and not know how to put make up on properly!

baby my 3 cycles post m/c have definitely been WTF! Ov on CD16, CD12 and CD19 so far! With spotting starting at 8dpo (hence hoping acupuncture will help!)

poppy how are you today? My DS is a month older than yours at nearly 19 months.

blue go the implantation, go the implantation! fingers crossed!!!

eve have you managed to resist from testing yet! Aren't those tests like magnets though! I'm rubbish at not testing early!

marathon good news on jeans not fitting!! Is it your 12 week scan on the 7th Sept?

Hope all is well with IQ I haven't seen her post for a while.

Waves to summer, missg, manda, whats, IQ, shimmery

Hi all. Baby I heard somewhere that washing machines are more likely to cause house fires than other, possibly more obvious appliances (such as ovens). Yet I still feel happier going out leaving the washing machine on than leaving the oven on.

Fingers crossed for you Blue. I am still in a weird no-mans land of no AF. Very odd given my usual regularity and the fact that my first two cycles post MC followed the normal pattern. If it lasts until the weekend i will be testing again. I even bought the tests today to try and trick AF into showing...

Went into Monsoon this morning and saw the most gorgeous little coat for a baby. Felt very :( as I would have had a January baby and so could have used it. Am considering buying it as a present for my colleague who is due just before Christmas, but not sure if that would be weird (especially as she knows about the MC). Your thoughts on that would be welcome.

Waves to everyone else :)

Morning all...glad you enjoyed the crumble! Nothing much to report this morning...but that's not a bad thing as it means there's been no spotting, bleeding or start of AF and no more crazy cramps (other than the odd stitch like pain in my lower left side near where the sharp pain was yesterday!) No test result either as I didn't bother POAS this morning...going to try and hold off until Friday if I can, which will be CD34 and possibly 36hours post implantation if that's what was happening yesterday...trying soooo hard to stay calm and not get over excited and am so so aware that AF could still sneak in a visit at any time! Suspect I may be visiting the loo an extraordinarily large number of times today just to check though

summer I was chatting to my DM yesterday and she kept rightly telling me not to get my hopes up and she seemed so that people might actually know when they'd ov'd or when implantation happened, she seemed v sceptical about the whole thing and I'm certain that if I got a bfp and then had the same happen as you I would also get the same response from her that you had which does make me but seems to be a generational thing as they had to wait so long to find out and seemed so clueless as to what was going on in comparison to what we know now! That doesn't excuse it at all though as they need to understand that once you do know then the bonding starts immediately...grrr...so frustrating for you!

pie crumble for breakfast...a lady after my own heart!! I often look at my little sis doing her makeup and wonder how she learned to do it so well/professionally! Sending PMA your way for NO spotting today!!

I woke up wondering how IQ is as not heard form her for a while...are you out there????

Waves to marathon, missg, manda, whatso, shimmery, eve, baby, cuttle, poppy hope I've not missed anyone

shimmery x-post...there's a bit of crumble left in the corner of the bowl if you're quick!! You can hang out with me in the 'trying not to test for the next couple of days but will if she doesn't appear' section of the metalling room! for you seeing the coat...mine would've been due in December and have been trying not to think about the things I would've been buying about now! How well do you know your colleague?

I know her fairly well - she's one of the people I am closest to at work (hence she knows about the MC) and she's very open with me (which is relevant due the the politiking here - we're "on the same side" so to speak).

shimmery if the coat is the type of thing you'd have bought for her pre-MC then I would say go for it!

just had some spotting...probably AF giving me an early warning she's about to arrive...