Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

Morning all?CD26 today?and feeling very AFy?cramps last night and this morning, very tired and quite emotional so thinking textbook PMT at the moment. POAS and BFN again so going to try and wait until Monday now if AF not announced her arrival before then (Cycles before MC varied from 30-37 so I could easily not be due for another week if they haven?t reset themselves after the MC?!)

missg thanks for the extra PMA?trying to stay just having up and down moments?which seem to get recorded on MN to avoid driving DH too nuts with it all!!

marathon I?m going to see if I can get through this weekend and see what AF is doing (or not doing, hopefully ) and then review NYC! As you say the reverse psychology of buying the ticket might just do the trick!! Hope you have a good time with the out-laws!

baby, pie you?re so right?the months do seem to slip by so quickly when TTC ? I cannot believe it?s August already?TTC for 3 months, ?pg? for 3 months, post MC/TTC again for 2 months and that?s my 2011 so far?here?s hoping for all of us that we?re not allowed any at Christmas and are glowing for a different reason!! I have also given up with the ?would prefer to be heavily pregnant in x month rather than y month and having a baby in any month would just be (with slight proviso that if Mum has to fly over (long haul) during the Olympics for the big arrival then the money for the flight will have to come from somewhere though not sure where at the mo?! )

pie oooh?snakebite and black takes me back to my uni days! Glad the acupuncture seems to be helping and your weekend in Aviemore sounded fab! Not sure how many DPO but probably in the region of 7-9, I really am not holding out too much hope this cycle TBH as we haven?t SWI enough at all really?but until AF arrives there?s still a glimmer of hope that we didn?t happen to catch it on the right day!

Here?s hoping for some more BFP?s on this thread in the next week or so?lots of us in the 2ww and the full on metalling section of the padded room is getting busy!

Morning all. Work is mental. I cried in my appraisal yesterday (I have never done that before, and I was being told I had a decent performance grade at the time - no rhyme or reason to it) and then spent the rest of the day trying not to cry again. Serious end of tether stuff, although I am hoping it is more to do with the time of the month than anything else.

Metalling has started up again (as in TTC metalling, not the metalling in the rest of my life which resulted in me crying at work!) The symptoms I have spotted are pretty low grade (very tired and CM, which I got in the last pg) so I trying not to get my hopes up but as we all know, that's hard once you get it in your head

Sorry for the lack of personals, have to shoot off back to work if I have any chance of leaving at 5.45 for yoga but I have been reading and nodding in agreement and/or sympathy to all the posts. And grinning at IQ's good scan news

Ah whatso so sorry to hear about your work situ...sounds v tough! Was your boss understanding/helpful? I'm sure all of the hormones doing crazy things during our cycles and especially with all of the post MC emotions make everything a lot tougher...really hope you have a better afternoon and make it to yoga!

whats my crying was in the middle of our open plan office I felt like a right tit but at that point in time enough was just enough xx

Pie so sorry to hear that - it's mortifying isn't it, but as you say - it gets to a stage where the tears are better out than in.

blue he was good bless him, he said he knew I'd had a crap year and that especially considering that, my work had been good. He said he hadn't had a "crier" in an appraisal for years which sadly made me laugh and cry at the same time!

I actually don't think work is particularly bad at the moment, it's just the way I am reacting to my workload that is stressing me out and leaving me unable to cope properly. My yoga teacher also does reiki so I'm thinking of having a session to see if it might de-stress me a bit. Has anyone ever had reiki and if so did you find it useful/neutral/rubbish?

Waving to everyone else, hope your SWI/2ww/other events are going well and lots of PMA is happening!

blue and pie so sorry to hear you are having crap times at work, i have been there too so i understand.

whatso i have never had reiki but have heard it is amazing, let us know how you get on

pie my bleeding lasted a week, it was 2 weeks with the one in March and my AF only usually lasts 2-3 days. I think i am 5DPO but am not sure whether i am still in the WTF cycle FX i should be either POAS or AF on Bank Hol Monday.

miss and baby i give so much about myself away on this site, i try to be discreet, so far i reckon that all people know about me is that i am a geordie living in Altrincham but am sure i have said more

DS was poorly last night and had us up every hour from midnight till 6am - am not complaining as he has always been a good sleeper (12hrs a night at 6weeks old ) so am off work with him today - he is sitting watching the Mr Men Show giggling at Mr Rude! It is my wedding anniversary today and DH and i were supposed to be quaffing pink champagne tonight as that is what we had on our wedding day, however if DS is still poorly that is out of the question (he has asthma and his breathing was dodgy last night - need to be sober just in case) although he is perking up

sorry for the quick post but will try and catch up tomorrow so-much-easier-to-catch-up-on-here-when-am-at-work waves to shimmery manda marathon and all our metallers.

I've had reiki once, whatso. My best friend is a lecturer in beauty therapy and often goes on courses to 'keep her hand in' or brush up on skill and before I had DS2 would often call me at short notice to be a guinea pig someone to practice on (she also used to call me in to the college to be a 'case study' for her students so I've had more than my fair share of free massages, facials, pedis etc It's bloody impossible since DS2 came along though).

When she asked me to come along for a reiki session I was hesitant but went anyway to help her out. I had been feeling quite low for a few days but didn't tell her that.

At the end of the treatment, I felt very... light, is probably the word. As if a weight had literally been lifted. THe really odd thing is that best friend went to get me a glass of water and then sat with me, looking quite morose and said she felt really blue all of a sudden. It was at that point I admitted that's how I'd been feeling and didn't anymore! She then told me that during her training course she'd been warned that it was possible negative feelings could pass from the client to the therapist but she dismissed it as tosh. As would I. But it seems, for us at least, that's what really happened.

I obviously didn't 'believe' it enough to do it again, and infact had kinda forgotten all about that experience until you just asked.

But, like many alternative therapies, if it doesn't do any harm then there's a chance it can do good, if only by placebo effect (which is amazingly powerful, btw!)

In short, give it a go I reckon!

Happy anniversary summer hope there's some pink champers in your very near future

afternoon all

Just a quick hello, hope everyone is ok?

Summer hope ds is soon on the mend it is horrid when they are not well, but great to cuddle up with them. My ds was really bad with chicken pox and wouldn't let me out of his sight. Hope you get to do some celebrating later.

Whatso and Pie - it is soon the weekend. Hope you are ok and getting by.

For those dishing out personal info, I don't mind much if someone said ..oh your eve so and so. Nothing I am to ashamed of on here. I think it is very unlikely though. So if anyone is in Hampshire - come and say hi :-)

Horrible wet day today, spent 3 hours in soft play hell. Now watching tom and jerry AGAIN.

I am 5 days past ov I think. For whoever asked, am eating everything in sight so bang goes the diet again. DP taking me out tonight to cheer me up feeling bit flat this week. Af due bank holiday monday so will look forward to that.

Off to my dad's caravan this weekend hope the weather picks up for us. Back to work on monday and out laws are visiting for the week can't wait!

Hope everyone is looking forward to the weekend, this time next week we might have some bfp.....

Hi all! I have only managed to get on now as we had some lovely vistors today and went out for lunch and things instead.

Happy anniversary Summer, and I hope your DS is feeling better. The 'second' time, (we met on the Friday, he didn't leave till the Monday and then I worked abroad for 6 weeks) me and DH met he bought me some pink Laurent Perrier - we drank it in the bath here.

Glad it's not just me who has been passing out vaguely identifiable info! The west coast of Scotland is beautiful - I have spent two holidays there drunkenly in a hunting lodge and had a wonderful time.

Re 'alternative therapies' the one's I have had, acupuncture homeopathy and Bowen have been brilliant. In fact, I now try to go the 'alternative' route before the more conventional route.

Today some very good friends visited with their daughter. I have known him for many many years (not in the Biblical sense!) and he was the reason I met DH. They were both wonderful when I was going through the mc crap, having gone through the same themselves (apart from the D&C wasn't done properly so they had to go back - awful!) They now have a 17 month old daughter who is SO cute! She is very talkative and comical with it (she also was at 5 months old, but without the talking) and my dog was fabulous with her. I talked to A, my friends wife (she is now my friend too, but for writing it down's sake...) and was telling her about DH's reluctance to TTC again in the near future. It took her another 10 months before she got pg again after her MC so I really want to start now. Still, will bring this up on my birthday - think the 'another year older' and that I am now back to my normal self physically will make this a good time. I realise DH is stressed re cash etc but THERE IS NEVER A RIGHT TIME is there?!

Sorry, am suffering from stuck record syndrome.

Saying all this, seeing Eve's post about spending 3 hours in soft play hell may make me re think my options!

Whatsoever hope work chills out soon. At least they realise why you may be more prone to getting upset than normal and are understanding about things.

Summer happy wedding anniversary!

Manda a few people have used the word light in relation to reiki. There was a stand in yoga teacher tonight so I couldn't book but I will do next week.

Work much better today and yoga made it better still. Also booked flights to NY for the end of September so feeling a bit more chipper. AF is due on Saturday so going to try very hard not to let it get me down if she arrives as expected.

Morning all...just a quick hello as I'm off today so not at work with lots of time to post heading into London to meet one of my best friends and her two children for a day out! So so glad the sun is shining after all the rain yesterday and hoping it stays dry...London not fun in the rain but with two little ones would just be urgh!!

Happy belated anniversary summer hope you managed some of that champers and DS feeling better.

Whatso I'm also due AF any day now and TBH feel very pre-AFy so expecting her arrival, esp with the lack of well timed SWI this cycle. Here's hoping she gets lost on her way to both of us and we get unexpected bfps instead

Right...off to pack the picnic...mini cheese and ham rolls, carrot and cucumber sticks, ginger cake, raspberries and cream cupcakes, drinks... feeling an over balance of sweet things but who cares?! Have a great Friday all...catch up later after I've been wowed by the Penguins at the Aquarium

Blue - sounds like a fab picnic I will be there for 12 :-) Hope you have a lovely day. And enjoy your weekend.

Whatso and blue - Will be me next weekend waiting for af to turn up. Feeling ok about it now, but am sure I will be miserable next weekend - I ficus is til the new year. I know it is not long but then I will maybe see gp. I am also 39 this oct so really don't want to wait longer. I don't know.

Off to the cinema today with ds. Typical as the sun is out today.

Baby - I am sure he will come round soon, men are not good at the emotional stuff.

Hope everyone has a great weekend.

Blue have a lovely day out in London and hope you get a nice surprise BFP!

eve have a great day with DS

Gave in to my curiosity and tested today a day early. BFN. Never mind, I kind of expected it given when DH was away in Japan. Think I'll give it one more month then (if DH's work schedule allows) try the sperm-meets-egg plan.

One positive thing is that we're going to the races for DH's dad's 60th tomorrow so at least I can have a drink now.

PMA at all times! Happy Friday everyone - nearly the weekend

Hi Peeps! I think I will need our collective PMA to get through this weekend! We have family staying and will be spending time with one of their friends who is due as the same time as I would have been :( I then got sucked into BB and Emma Willis is due in December and has a nice bump like I should have Sometimes I think i'm doing well then this kind of thing comes along, mwahhh!

Picnic sounds lovely blue! The sun is also shining in NE Scotland today :)

whats we started trying the sperm meets egg plan this month but as I had 6 days of highs we were tired by the time the peak day came along! So, looking at my chart FF has given me a 'good' scoring for this month and not 'high' as we dtd 3 days before O and the day of O (you get a high score if you have dtd 3 times between O day minus 3 and the day of O) sorry does that make sense!)

baby hope the chat with DH goes well, you are right there never is a right time!

eve enjoy the caravan! Where are you going?

Waves to all, here's to the weekend!!! We are going to be on hols when AF is due (Loch Lomond) so do I or don't I take any tests! Am sure some IC will find their way into my toiletries bag even though i'm pretty sure we are out this month (and, annoying I've come down with a horrific sore throat/cough/cold) the day after Ov so am sure the bean won't want to implant when i'm all sicky!

Pie channelling PMA your way. Just ate an apple instead of digging into the chocolately treats I bought for the office yesterday so that has definitely generated some spare PMA (or smugness, but it will do me).

Is the temperature testing essential for the sperm meets egg plan? I was planning on doing the ovulation stick tests just because I'm crap at anything like tempertaure testing which has variables. I can see me testing my temperature standing next to a radiator or an open window and ruining the whole thing...

PS Take tests. You'll only be wondering otherwise.

whatso there are less variables than you would imagine as you are measuring your basal body temperature - the lowest point it falls to. You don't take it at random times/areas in the house - you take it upon waking (ideally at the same time each morning - setting an alarm if necessary) before getting out of bed - before doing anything! I keep my thermometer under my pillow so all I do is slide my hand under the pillow, pop it in my mouth and stay still until it beeps.

You need to have been asleep for at least three/four hours too, though, because as you sleep your temp steadily drops (and vice versa - it starts to rise as soon as you wake even if you don't do anything). For that reason I haven't been able to temp for days now as DS2 has had me awake atleast once per hour, latching on. I assume its his upper right molar that I can see juuuuust poking through the gum.

pie Take the ics. You know it makes sense! Sorry you're porrly, hope you can enjoy some of the trip none the less.

eve what are you going to see? Don't say The Smurfs!

blue picnic sounds lush and after the downpour for hours and hours yesterday, it looks beautiful out there (here in SW London. Speaking of outing ourselves, I couldn't care less about being outed!)

baby There really isn't a right time. Ever. There will always be a reason not to. And is it wrong that the hotel being called Spread Eagle is making me laugh?! Rose Laurent Perrier is my best friends' fav but for a mid price champers I prefer Perrier Jouet. Damn. It's jut made me realise I miss champagne. I'm not a big drinker at all, but it's my tipple of choice

manda ah, absolutely no point me attempting that. I never sleep through (probably wake up at least twice during the night on average) so I would manage a temperature after 3-4 hours sleep once in a blue moon and there's not a chance in hell I'm setting an alarm one second earlier than I need to in the morning!

THat depends, whatso - you could probably still work temping in. For instance, if you simply wake, find yourself thinking 'oh, I've woken up' then roll over and go back to sleep that's fine. We all actually wake multiple times in the night, we normally just don't come 'up' enough to remember. Secondly, if you find you usually wake around the same time (I tend to wake around 4.30am) it's ok to temp then so long as you've slept for at least 3 hours (as I've said, keep the thermometer to hand. Digital therms log the last temp so you don't need to record it into your chart until after you've gotten up properly hours later).

I'd encourage almost everyone to give it a go, it's really enlightening/empowering.

Evening all...well I've had a lovely day out with a trip to the London Sea Life Centre and picnic on the grass by the Thames/London Eye - what a contrast in weather from yesterday! Am so so tired though, I was the hand holder of choice for my friend's DCs who are 3 and 4.5...they were so good though and super cute too! I didn't POAS this morning and may try and avoid it tomorrow too if I can...CD27 today...still cramping, v tired, itchy nipples and slightly sore boobs...but just need to keep waiting!! I'm seeing my friend again in 8 weeks and couldn't help thinking that if I got a bfp I'd be 12 weeks by then why do these things just pop into your head when you're TTC!?

whatso have a fab day tomorrow!

manda I think I may try temping next month if we're not successful...though also v frequently wake up for the loo or when DH getting up for work, but neither have a pattern so that may not work

pie hope you feel better soon...booo to your cold and sore throat..

eve hope you've had a good day with DS

whats I always wake up and lie awake in the night for a bit before falling back asleep. I must admit I am not religious about having had 3/4 hours sleep before taking my temp although it's always when i've just woken up, and I can stilll see a general pattern emerging.

I do find it slightly obsessive though (as you can also chart your CM, any other symptoms like cramping, sore boobs etc and when you have DTD that month). I find it satisfying when I've had 3 higher temps and it puts my DPO on my chart (3dpo today!!!). One thing I have noticed is that my temp never drops just before or on the day of AF, it stays high until AF has gone, whereas I think it's more common for your temp to drop at the start of AF.

We had a lovely day today. Brother in law, wife and their DD were visiting from down south. Their DD is 6 months old. It was a gorgeous day here so we all went to the local heated outdoor swimming pool (it's heated filtered salt water to 28C!) so hopefully DS and his cousin are nicely exhausted for a good night's sleep.

I have my best mate's hen do tomorrow night and although am only 3dpo and pretty positive am out for this month, am not sure how crazy to go alcohol wise given that I've barely had any alcohol since getting preg pre m/c (so, since March) I don't want people suspecting I'm pregnant just because i'm not drinking much but i've been so good with booze and caffiene lately so I don't want to go crazy. Will see!

2 more days of no work - whoop whoop!!!

big waves and happy saturday vibes to all :) :)

Hello all - it's rather quiet in these parts lately... or, should I say, perhaps the music is so loud you've all been drowned out?

cuttle marathon and IQ hope you're all still doing well?

I have a BBQ to attend later (with DD and DS2 in tow). Naturally the heavens have opened and looks like they show not a sign of dryin up. Perfect! CD14 today... still only the faintest of lines on my opk, and no temp dip (which I usually get the day of O) so no eg ready to hatch here, yet. I think it might be mid next week.

Afternoon all...we thought of going for a walk this afternoon but thankfully checked the weather forecast before heading out with our walking boots...now snugged on the sofa with a fleece instead whilst the rain pours down outside!! I'm also either very hormonal PMTy or hormonal early pregnant - poor DH he has really had a tough morning with my crazy mood swings and tears today! Thing is I really can't say what's wrong...crazy hormones So...CD28 today...still cramping, crazy hormones as mentioned but no sign of AF yet!

pie enjoy the hen do...not sure what to advise re the or not...not an easy call!

manda hope the weather clears wnough for your BBQ!

Right...back to my ebay listing...

:( :( :( just had a friend of a friend round our house who has a nice bump and is due 2 weeks before our lost baby. I hid upstairs for a while faffing trying to put it off but couldn't avoid her all afternoon. I felt like a cow, it's not her fault I lost our baby but it just hurts so much seeing somebody who is where I should be :( :(

Ok, need to get some PMA and get showered and glammed up for tonight's night out! There is no way I can avoid drinking so will just take it easy and have maybe a glass of fizz, 1 cocktail and a couple of glasses of wine I think it will be easy to avoid booze at the meal but hard at the bar beforehand, ho hum!!!

Oh pie so so sorry...it's so hard...how you're feeling is so natural, wanting to be happy for your friend but just so for what you have lost at the same time. Really hope you're able to have a good evening out...