Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

Afternoon all! Ok ? updated ?symptom? list:

• nipples ok again
• AF like stomach cramps yesterday evening (needed hot water bottle) and this afternoon including stabbing pains around right ovary
• Stinking headache today (had these when pg last time)
• V v tired this afternoon (but could be linked to late night, early morning and looong meeting this morning?actually that could explain the headache too!)
• Oh, and a BFN with one of my internet cheapies this morning CD24 today ? a day further along than I thought yesterday!

IQ sounds like a sensible approach to MIL and looking after biscuit?thinking of you for your scan tomorrow ? is DH able to go with you to this one?

pie hope work a bit better today!

whatso sorry to hear about your pants feedback yesterday?so glad you had good hols though!

baby grrrr for you re. the WTF cycle ? so very frustrating! Hope spotting gets itself sorted quickly!

missg I have saved a spot for you in the full on metal 2ww area!! Trying to stick with the PMA so will bore you all daily with my symptom spotting! ooh and rhubarb tart sounds yummy if there?s any left?

summer you can come and join us too?well done for the ?doing it when you want to plan? I think with everything that?s happened for you guys in the last few months that?s v wise!

marathon how?s things?

shimmery what can I say I am impressed with your diligence to the cause!!

eve SO impressed with your weight loss! I?ve managed half a stone since the MC but could do to lose another stone though my heart isn?t really in it at the moment as there seems to be so much else going on!

manda at your changing hormones!

cuttle really hope all?s ok with you!

Right?think that?s everyone covered?and time to go home!

Just a quick one as have been working away today, and am off to bodypump shortly.

Here you go Blue extra big bit for the PMA . CD 24?? No wonder you are symptom spotting like a true metalling maniac - when will you test next? Tomorrow?

Well that's CDs 11, 12 and 14 taken care of . Shimmery Did I read right?? 7 days in a row? I take my hat off to you girl . No wonder your bed broke!

IQ best of luck for the scan tomorrow. Will be looking forward to hearing news of wee biscuit's progress

Enjoy your curry Eve . Yep, teenagers don't half get in the way of SWI. I only have the one, but our house seems to be congested with them during the hols. I don't mind most of teh time. I had to call her to check she wasn't going to be home in the next half hour, and she was like "It's ok, I've got my key" and I was like "No. I NEED TO KNOW if you'll be back in the next half hour!" And (I think she clicked) all I heard was "Jeez Mum, no I won't, goodbye. Urgh". Hehe.

Summer good to hear you are doing well and having a month or two off the obsessive SWI. I have just checked both my own and DHs work schedules, and checked what my DD has on for the rest of the week. It can get ridiculous to be honest. Earlier I was saying to DH that I just can't turn it on and off at the drop of a hat, and he started singing Barry White. Sent me into a fit of giggles which was slightly counterproductive!

Big wave to everyone else. And sorry to hear about workload and work-related stress problems. Hope you can sort them out. I've been there - actually had 6 weeks off (and I have an excellent attendance record) a few years back as I had bee doing the work of 2 people for over 3 years. Burnt me out. The stats spoke for themselves and they recruited another person, but it took me going off sick for it to happen. That is NOT how it should work though. Ironically, I work for a Trade Union

My god, there's a lot of rampantness on this thread isn't there?! And taking days off to get more in, blimey! Hats off to you, and lets hope those sore loins will be rewarded eh!

I am in WTF cycle mode big time now so think, even if DH was coming round to the idea, my metaling etc is a way off. Bugger! I have this silly, silly as I realise it is very likely to end in disappointment for soooo many reasons, being pg again by Christmas.

Seems as if it not just me who's DH is different when his family is around then? Yep, and I have a week of it next week. This is where having a dog comes in very handy as I can always take her out and escape for a bit. In laws are okay I suppose, just very repressed and the conversation always stays on a certain level (ie work, the weather, the garden) which wears after a while. 12 hours in fact (inc time asleep!)

Am off to bed in a bit. Went running for the first time in months today and it half killed me. Night!

Whatso - hope today is better - the first day back is always the worst, feels like you have never been away. Be kind to yourself.

Manda - hope you are ok, it is such a difficult decision to make to stop ttc, it has crossed my mind as I am 39 in Oct I sometime think that ds is my lot, but this is really our first month of actually ttc so shouldn't give up just yet but I am not sure I can handle the dissappiontment month after month. I can't imagine the gp or such like will give us the time of day if we rocked up and asked for help. Anyway I digress as ever.

IQ - hope the scan went well. I can imgaine how you must be lurching from PMA and worrying yourself silly. All sounds like it should be. Only 30 weeks or so to go. I am sure it can't go by quick enough.

Blue......and todays test......????????

Miss G - well done on the dtd I really wanted to get another one in yesterday but really couldn't be arsed and was to full of curry :-)

Baby - well done on the running. Would love to be able to run. Hang on in there your time will come.

Well we had nice day yesterday, DS was really good whilst in and out of shops so took him to soft play. lost 2.5 lb this week so I am pleased with that and celebrated with big fat curry :-) Can see my week off going by too quickly as always but having nice time pottering with DS.

Hope everyone is ok? Marathon do we have an update and cuttle??? sorry to those I have over looked have brain like swiss cheese?

You did indeed read right MissG. It would've been 8 days straight but by the Friday I was just a little bit tired. Also, I figured that a positive OPK on the penultimate day means enough had been done .

Now trying to work out if I really have sore boobs or if it's just due to the press ups I've been doing.

Got a conference call in 5, then disappearing off to a client's offices for the rest of the week, so won't be able to update. See you all at the weekend.

gah so much to catch up on, will check in properly later on but just wanted to see how IQ is getting on - is your scan today? everything (well not everything ) crossed for you! and you were getting all GI Jane on me back there! i am happily metalling here and in the WTF/2WW

see you all later x

Morning all?firstly IQ how did you get on with your scan? Thinking of you!

missg at your conversation with your DD about when she was coming home?

eve I?m with you about wanting to be able to run?my Mum kindly noted that apparently I look like a constipated duck when I run which never did anything to boost my confidence in that area of sports really! Well done with the continued weight loss!!

Well my daily countdown and symptom spotting continues, though BFN again this morning with my IC?s and despite the symptom spotting am not really that hopeful that we?ve been successful this month as SWI has been far from frequent enough but will just have to wait and see?CD25 today?latest symptoms?

• Mild AF cramps/heavy feeling most of the time now
• Am sure (though not poking to check as sat at my desk) that my breasts are starting to feel sore as well
• Stuffy nose
• Seem to have sprouted a number of lovely spots on my face and back (always a good sign hormones are going a little crazy?but could easily be for AF!)
• Just feel exhausted the whole time but may be coming down with a cold which would also explain the stuffy nose thing!

Soooo?will keep on form and POAS again tomorrow with my trusty ICs?we still haven?t decided what to do about the wedding in NYC and I?m partly thinking if AF arrives then we should just go and book it?but if I get a BFP then maybe we should save the cash for the future/moving house at some point or for me to spend when I?m off on mat leave decisions decisions

missg i just re-read your post and i have this wonderful image of you as a glamorous housewife (think desperate housewives v mad men), with a touch of slummy mummy thrown in! i am loving your DD's reaction!

hi all, will catch up properly later tonight but just wanted to let you know how it all went.......everything looks fabulous!!! we saw biscuit and he was even doing a little dance for us (bouncing up and down and waving his flippers)......totally out of this world. DH was like "can't believe it, it feels like a miracle, i feel like i've won the lottery" - bless him he does seem chuffed!!!!

I had loads of questions to ask her but once i saw his little heart beating i just totally forgot them, we even got to hear it and apparently at 175 bpm he is doing well. she gave me a current date of 9 weeks 3 days which is what i thought it was judging by my make shift chart and i have an EDD of 18th March. it was amazing to actually have a full appointment and see the biscuit in 3d ect - definitely the best £120 i have ever spent.

She knew about the MC and so had a good look around inside and said that everything is where it should be, the yolk sac looked good which is a sign that the pregnancy is viable and that the umbilical cord was a good size and bedded down well in the placenta. I feel like someone has just taken a bag of rocks off my back. Im not gonna be confident cos i know that anything can happen between now and 40 weeks but i dont think its going to keep me awake at night as much as it has the past few weeks.....well hopefully!!!

IQ how wonderful!!!

IQ sending big positive scan vibes, hope it was ok?

Blue you should definitely book NY, that way you will definitely get pregnant! In one week I bought myself a whole raft of new normal-sized clothes, gave away my maternity clothes and arranged for a million people (well, ish) to come and stay at Christmas and it was around that time I got pg! Do it...

Shimmery I bow to your stamina, who needs exercise classes eh? Let's hope it worked or you'd better start warming up for next month...

MissG hoping it worked for you too. My best friend tells a great story about how, age 17, he got home drunk at midnight one night and decided to go and tell his mother that he was home safe (knowing that she always waited up for him). Being a bit drunk, he wandered into his parents room to find his Dad wide awake and propped up at the end of the bed, so my bf sat down at the end of the bed and started to share what happened on his night out. That was until his Dad said "just a minute son", at which point my friend's Mum crawled out from under the duvet near his Dad's legs! It was then that he realised that they were both naked and what had been happening. Mortified doesn't come close!

There's so many 2ww going on at the mo, we're definitely due at least one BFP! So exciting!

Manda really glad to hear you're feeling so much more positive. You've got so much on at the moment (DCs, breastfeeding - emotionally and physically tiring in my view - and grieving), please don't beat yourself up if you need time. Your mc was also really late so it's going to take longer to deal with. Let's hope all the PMA is working and you've turned a major corner.

Baby Remember the mantra, you WILL be pg by Christmas.

Pie I hope work is better?

IQ as nagged requested, here is a proper update from me. I'm 9+5 today, had some tiredness and uneasiness last week but nothing for the last few days so have been burying my head in the sand and trying to forgot I'm pg. I have put on half a stone though (you're not supposed to put on anything in the first trimester so it doesn't bode well, especially if it all goes wrong again, I put on 5 pounds with the mc!). I am definitely "off" healthy food, but that's probably just an excuse. I went to McDonalds for the first time in about 5 years today and scoffed a Big Mac meal, it was lovely but appears to be haunting me, if you know what I mean .

My scan date came through yesterday, it's three weeks today (7th Sept) so it's just a waiting game now as I'm not going to have another one before then.

Baby talking of the out laws, I am off to visit them for five days later tonight so probably won't be online much. Wish me luck, I'd rather chew my own leg off but it is only five days (that's what I keep telling myself anyway)...

Yeah IQ that has made me fantastic news!!!

Def helped cheer me up as feeling a bit down today...think it's just the normal 2ww syndrome of 'if it's a bfp' let me know now but 'if it's going to be AF' hurry up and get started so we can move onto the next cycle asap!!

Was going to offer you all one of my malteasers but I'm afraid I've just looked down and I have scoffed the lot at high speed chocolate and good news is a great combination for cheering me up!!

Crossed post!

Oh IQ that's great news

Lovely, lovely news, IQ thank you so much for updating.

IQ that's lovely lovely news! Such a relief, and I can well imagine it being the best £120 ever spent! Great too that the sonographer had a big old look and everything else, as well as the baby, is as it ought to be. The relief must be HUGE!

Yeah IQ excellent news! [Smile]. So happy for you! I hope you can enjoy your pg a bit more now, and start looking forward to all he wonderful things to come (heartburn, cankles, piles... I'm just joking!! )

Eeeeek! Marathon at your friends story Wonder who was more embarassed?! That's funny. I see you're adpoting the good old 'ostrich' approach. I'm sure you'll be able to relax more once these 3 weeks have passed and your scan confirms that all is well in Mini Marathon land
Good luck with the outlaws You too Baby

Summer with my penchant for and my secret daytime horizontal gymnastics trysts (ok, with my own Dh but still seems quite naughty - sometimes I feel like the teenager!), I think you have me well and truly sussed (but I don't drink during the day.... honest)

Shimmery don't work too hard. FX for your shagathon reaping rewards in the form of a BFP

Blue you always have such yummy cakes! I will gladly accept a baked pear & ginger muffin. Sorry the end of the 2ww is proving hard . It's horrible allowing yourself to feel so hopeful and excited, then having those hopes dashed in a matter of minutes. But, it aint over 'til the fat lady sings. Still have fx for you

Manda It's such a hrd decision to make, isn't it? I've had similar conversations with DH. We only decided to TTC in July 2009, when DD had just turned 13. Naively assumed it would just happen and everything would be fine. TTC Sept-Nov, but then - as I was chief bridesmaid at my best friends wedding on 2nd Sept 2010 - stopped TTC for a few months so I wasn't either about to pop or just had a new born at that time. But.. then got pg in February (when we thought we'd been careful!) Delighted anyway, even if I would be a bookend bridesmaid. But that ended ectopic . The treatment (methotrexate) means you can't TTC for 3 months as it can remain in your system and destroys newly forming cells So, I had that in the April, then my Mum died in the August, so TTC was out for a few months after that. Then, got BFP in March this year. But, of course, that was MMC and why I ended up here. I think what I'm trying to say is that (and I know this isn't very PMA of me) but if I was to have another pg end in MC, I have said to DH that I think I'd want to call it a day. He said he would agree with whatever I decided, but I still feel a bit guilty about making that decision when I know he would really love his own baby (he is a super stepdad to DD and has been with us since she was 6, but the baby stage is so very special). It's all speculative of course! And I realise that 2 years maybe doesn't seem that long to some people, but it feels it!
I am still PMA ing all the way to that BFP for the time being though. Hope you can too - for a bit at least - and hope your BFP is just around the corner

Eve well done on weight loss . Are you heading away somewhere this weekend again? More camping?

MissG your last paragraph made me get a lump in my throat. And, while you say about two years not being that long for some people, I know from my own experience (we decided to TTC in Feb, got pg in April and had MMC in July) it seems AGES as it takes so much of your headspace and it is impossible very hard to think of much else! I think it would be a lot easier if we could switch off thinking about it but I tried that when we started TTCing the first time and then became, admittedly only in my own head, slightly obsessed with ovulation / genders / possible due dates and so on. I can also completeley understand why you would want to call it a day if you had another miscarriage but, hey, that's not gonna happen right?!

Manda, Amourous Manda should we say you sound exhausted with the whole thing too. For the reasons I gave above, it can become so all consuming can't it and I have occassionally wished I'd never started on this journey as I didn't know how all consuming and worrying it could be. I suppose there are no certainties but what will be will be, and all that. Easier to type that attitude than actually have it though, eh?

It is my birthday next month (37) so I think I might try and raise the TTC again question to DH. Hopefully my cycle might have sorted itself out by then too, its currently still spotting but heavier but not getting heavy enough to feel like an actual period iyswim. We have the financial stress and the house stress blah blah blah but, frankly, there is always going to be something isn't there and time really is running out (not quite run out but it's starting to get there.)

Nope! You are right Baby, that is not gonna happen! I will get my bfp this month and will be happily out walking with my baby giraffe by May next year (as you can see, I am totally not obsessed with due dates, life-changes etc etc )
And, hopefully, you will not be far behind me .

Right Lets all Chant "Chin Up, Tits Out and PMA all the way to that BFP!!!!!"

Yes indeedy!!

When we first decided to TTC I was hoping to end up with an EDD of Feb / March / April as I could have the winter feeling big and ungainly but not the summer. In the end I had one of mid Jan which was good - apart from the likelihood of snow in this part of the world. I always thought that being heavily pregnant in the peak of summer could be grim but now, frankly, I could not care less!

I know, you go from planning ideal timing for this that and the next thing, then end up in a place where you'd give anything just to get there at all! We've just got to hope for the time being that we will indeed get there, and that everything will go perfectly!
Where in the world are you if you don't mind me asking?

Yorkshire, West Yorkshire. Aw, fuckit, I live here (anyone who knows me would have guessed by posts, I reckon, and I doubt that is likely.)

Hehe, I know what you mean! I've given so much away that if there is/was anyone who knows me, they would definitely know this is me!! I doubt there will be though . Sounds nice!

Precisely - there are, after all, lots of threads to get through before someone found me! And the one's who may recognise me from the more intimate details are the one's who I'd probably tell this stuff too (well, most of it) anyway.

Where are you? If, of course, you dont mind me asking either!

Hi Peepsicles!

Gosh I can't keep up :) Not sure how far back I have to go to catch up :)

Work is (marginally) better but it really isn't acceptable that I had to burst into tears for them to finally realise that I just can't do all the workload they expect. My line manager is actually very understanding but it's his boss that is the problem. Ho Hum. Anyway I think all the stress might have delayed my ov this month as I didn't get a positive OPK until CD18 and a temp rise this morning CD20 (!) As such I think we are out this month (started SWI early as ov' on CD12 last month so were knackered by CD16! So, for possible conception have DTD 3 days before and day of Ov so doubt it's enough).

Will be standing on the side of the metalling dancefloor with a pint of snakebite and black!

One thing my acupunture session has done (along with a daily glass of grapefruit juice) is massively increase my EWCM. I guess there's no such thing as TMI on this thread but suffice to say I can't remember having that much EVER and it lasted for about 4/5 days :) I had my 2nd acupunture session tonight and the first thing he said was 'stick out your tongue' then he said 'you're stressed' !! So, 30 minutes of laying under a nice warm lamp with about 15 needles sticking out of me I do feel better!

We had a lovely long weekend away in Aviemore though, has DS in the bike seat lots on the trails and played on the beach by one of the big lochs :)

I have talked with 2 people today who know of people that are due on the same date as our Pud was :( DS is a Christmas Day baby and No.2 was due on the 23rd Dec! I said to DH I really hope we are pg by Christmas this year but now that doesn't feel very far away at all. I'm now 39 (pah!) and I think if nothing has happened in 12 months then we will probably stop TTC. I do have a referral from my GP to the fertility clinic though and she is going to do a few blood tests next week just in case there is anything that can be easily fixed before my eggs get too decrepid!!

shimmery OMG! 8 days IN A ROW! If you don't get a bfp this month then i'll be amazed! That is some serious loving! Go Girl!

missg I am chanting your mantra right now! It's quite scary how the weeks and months fly by when you are TTC. I think that's part of what scares me is that next thing I know I'll be 40 and we will still be trying, when I should focus on our DS and take a 'what will be, will be' stance. The acupuncturist believes it will happen so I have to take some of his positivity onboard!

baby I know what you mean about there always being something! That's what happened with DP & I. There was always something else we wanted to do before TTC and finally the last thing was celebrating his 40th with a big ski trip, after that I kind of had to say 'hey! we're not getting any younger, let's get going!'

blue it's horrible how the 2ww just drags isn't it! Especially the second week. I know what you mean about either getting a bfp or AF starting so you can start the next cycle. The witch isn't here yet though! How many days DPO are you?
IQ fantastic news on your scan! It brought a wee tear to my eye, I am so happy things are progressing well - whoop!

manda Big hugs chick, how are you today? This baby making business is so emotionally draining isn't it, especially after a miscarriage :( Take care of yourself x

summer has the bleeding stopped now? (sorry if you already said)

eve how many DPO do you think you are?

marathon hopefully the next 3 weeks will pass by quickly for you! The Big Mac sounds like a very promising sign! You're story about your friend really made me chuckle!

whats are you back from Ibiza? was it a clubbing or chilling hols?

Waves to everybody else and apologies profusely for the hugmongous waffle and anybody i've missed! x

I am on the West Coast of Scotland, in Ayrshire. Am on the outskirts of my wee town, which I was going to post a link to, but almost all of them mention a close family member, who is well known locally due to his involvement in many things in town! So, if anyone was in any doubt, they would definitely be able to identify me (and it would be too cringeworthy when I think back to posts about DTD and SWI to take the risk, bearing in mind MN is accessible to all and sundry !!). Here's an area link though:
www.ayrshirescotland.com/

Lots of wind and rain!