Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

Hi all!

marathon I think (I'm not on Orange so I might have this wrong) if you are on Orange you get a text every Wednesday which gives you 2 for 1 at the cinema, so you can take someone and its effectively half price. I don't go to the cinema very often so I always forget about this! Best of luck for your Saturday scan.

I've been out for holiday money this lunchtime (yippee!). Going round to our friends' tonight to meet their newborn. They don't know about the MMC and I don't think I'll say, it sort of puts a downer on meeting new babies. They are lovely people but in common with other people who get pg easily (pg within a couple of months of getting married, the secong before first child was 2) they tend to ask when we want to have children, as if it will happen as soon as we desire it...

totally forgot in my catch up to say how crappy im feeling today - woke up and felt ok but as the day has gone on i feel all weak, bit headachy, tired....not sure if this is just the pg or something is really wrong. really want to ring the MW but feel im being silly......i cant put my finger on whats wrong but i can say definitely that i just dont feel right!

really hoping this is nothing to worry about but know that its gonna be on my mind now until my next scan which is aboout 2 weeks away.......ohhhhh god why cant this be easier!!!!

IQ When will I test? oh, not for daaays yet... I mean, it would be silly to test from now, only 7 dpo, right?

ok, I'll come clean. I tested this morning, bfn. The earliest I've had a bfp is 10 dpo, but it was super faint. So... lets say in 3 or 4 days, I'll be testing more seriously (as apposed to not seriously which it is now - I just can't resist, even though I'm sure it'll be bfn as you read about women getting their bfp this early!)

Still, I had a breakfast of oats, probiotic yoghurt and strawberries, yet I felt starving by lunch (unusual for me - I often skip brekkie and feel just about ready to eat by about 2pm). Stuck a pizza in the oven, ate it and as I ot to the last bite I suddenly came over like I was gonna throw it up. I ran to the toilet and wasn't actually sick but had a spinning feeling for a moment before gagging for a few minutes. this is conclusive proof of pregnancy I'm probably coming down with something. yes I am. It's called being pregnant

Do hope you feel a bit better though, IQ. I'm not trying to dismiss your feelings at all but y'know 'morning sickness' or early pregnancy in general can make you feel decidedly weird/off/ill. Hope that's all it is for you.

whatso I know you'd not thought about orange wednesday (you text orange from your orange ohone (cost 35p) and they send you a 2 4 1 code that also works in pizza express (I think it's 2 4 1 pizza plus a free garlic bread. DD is on orange.) but don't be afraid of goin solo to the flicks. I LOVE it. Sure it's nice to fight over share your popcorn and have the person with you ask inane questions during the film about the plot to talk about the movie after, but there's something great about being on your own and immersing yourself in the film. Definitely DO IT! As for DH, have you seen a film called Oldboy? I'm picturing a certain scene and your DH now... wait, it's bound to be on youtube. Yup.

summer No apologies for the swearing. A) we're all adult (and it IS MN and NOT NM) and B) it sounds warranted.

It's frustrating. SOunds like you'll just have to chalk it up as one of those things you'll never see eye to eye on although I know how hurtful it is when all you want is to feel that they love you and are sorry for your hurt. Definitely vent here!

And as I get to this point, everything else I wanted to say has vanished from my mind... and I seem to have a crampy feeling. PREGNANT, I TELLS YOU!
(seriously, I'm not really getting my hopes too high so don't worry about me crashing when af arrives with her suitcase!)

OH! marathon I'm so glad you're goin for a scan. My fngers are tightly crossed that it will be reassuring rather than any bad news you'd rather be blissfully unaware of.

Hi ladies,
Do you mind if I join? I am currently going through my second miscarriage. The pregnancy was unexpected but then again we wasn't being overly careful so I guess it was to be expected at somepoint. I don't want to feel all down in the dumps so thought I would join you all and look to the future. I have had 3 weeks to come to terms with this loss as scans had not shown a great deal of growth and accompanied by bleeding deep down I knew it wasn't meant to be

This is my fourth pregnancy and second loss. I had a mmc with my first baby at 12 weeks which went awfully wrong with infections, recovery etc it then took 13 months to conceive ds1 who is now 3.5 years old and I have ds2 who is 22 months.
I look forward to getting to know you all

X

Hello girlies. Can I join you guys? Have had 2 early miscarriages since March and am waiting for af, but have managed to convince myself I might be pregnant this month... Have developed an unhealthy obsession with checking my boobs for soreness or signs! Am going to go and make some cupcakes now :)

boobeez and iamamummy so sorry for losses but welcome aboard

No amount of boob prodding or sign spotting is discouraged here, optimism is (mostly) the name of the game.

grrrr...just wrote a long message and MN ate it will have to check back on later as I have to get on with my studies...sorry all, had nice little messages written to you and it's all gone!

Thanks whatsoever. Message boards like this do help loads. Took a test today and was v surprised to get a bfn. Have had so many funny tummy twinges and my boobs ( sorry to keep going on about them- I'm worse than a teenage boy) have developed weird bumpy lines. Have another test which I have stashed away, but may resort to using it tomorrow... Will update if I do.

Hello to iamamummy. How long are you going to wait until ttc? My doctor is super nice and said that there was no need to wait and that she hoped to see me at the end of the Summer with some good news. Let's hope we all get some good news soon.

Cupcake anyone? x

Hello everyone,
I have had a read through and am finding myself swamped as so much seems to go on and change on an almost hourly basis! So, I apologise in advance if I miss anyone or anything major, or get the wrong person for something - it's not on purpose (although am also sipping wine as I drink this which probably ain't going to help!)

So, Summer, I just want to say how fab you seem to be being about everything. I had a MMC spotted at 12 week scan so cannot say how I would feel if I miscarried so soon after getting the BFP but am guessing it's just as shit but in a different way. Sometimes I think it might have been easier before we could buy early tests etc so not actually know we were pregnant. Obviously, nobody forces anyone to test early either, but, frankly, I'd never be able to stop myself. The friend I keep mentioning (well, have in past posts) had a ERPC and then an early miscarriage (week after the BFP) but managed to get pregnant the month after. Hopefully the same will happen to you too. In the meantime, have some of my

Marathon I too shall be on tenterhooks to hear how it went on Saturday. I have everything crossed! I was quite laid back about my first, only, scan (where they spotted the MMC) but now know that with any subsequent scans I'd be a gibbering idiot! Maybe I need to borrow IQ's sister to talk some sense into me too!

Manda how many tests do you actually own? Are you on 20 a day?! I have been tempted before with the First Response but, after reading the back of the package, managed to hold off a while as not everyone gets a BFP so early on and I didn't want to think I wasn't when I actually was (not that that ever actually happened in the end.)

Late welcome back from me too. I never ended up having the ERPC in the end as things started to happen on their own, but was desperate for it to be over as it felt as if I could start trying again, which was far more positive.

Can I ask a TMI ucky question, please? How long did everyone take to stop bleeding or having anything iffy going on? I ask as I am still, only very slightly, getting brown stringy bits when I wipe occassionally and it's now been three weeks since I came out of hospital. I have no idea what may, or may not, be happening cycle wise at the moment and while it is still early days I was thinking I might be getting a bit more back to normal. Confused!

DH is getting on my nerves a bit at the moment. As well as his obsessional attention to irrelevant detail re the decorating (spending hours perfecting things that nobody will ever see - like getting beading to sand, prime then paint to go at the bottom of the skirting boards so there is a perfect line between that and the floorboards - instead of the current 'almost perfect- BUT WE STILL DONT HAVE A BATHROOM) he keeps making 'jokey' comments about kids / teenagers (ie 'are you sure you want kids?' when some walk past being noisy or something and saying how irritating or whatever they can be.) I got a bit ratty with him today and asked him if he found his DS 'bloody irritating' a few years ago (his DS is now 19) and he then seemed to realise what I was saying. All kids, and adults, can be irritating especially if you look for something irriating about them.

I hope I am not making him sound like a twat. He's not really, I think I am just venting about his negative bits.

Hello to the newbies, Boobeez and Iamamummy - this is a lovely thread and it's so nice to talk to people who can empathise with everything. People I know in RL often can't, or don't know quite what to say.

Right, I know I have forgotten people - will endeavour to keep up properly in future! I am now officially working from home (ie have a studio, albeit a makeshift one while we get the other rooms in the house done) so can read and post from there all the time and do no bloody work.

Boobeez (love the name lol) sorry to hear of your mc's. Have they all been fairly early on? Are you going for any tests?
We will only wait until the bleeding stops before we start to ttc again. Last time it took 13 months and I became very obsessive with temping, using every thing under the sun to get that bfp. I just hope I can keep my cool this time

Ohh can't say no to a cupcake or two

Ooooooh, a cupcake sounds good from this end too!

baby on a thread where we regularly discuss the contents of our knickers I don't think there is such a thing as a TMI question!

My bleeding/spotting/general slightly gunky brown discharge went on for quite a while after my ERPC. To the extent that we planned to start TTC as soon as the bleeding stopped and we actually only DTD once before my AF arrived. At one point it stopped for a few days but while my DH was away - we then went away for a few days together and as soon as we got to the cottage again (i.e. in my mind SWI central) the bleeding started again.

So based on that experience I think the first month can just be a pain in the fanjo.

Well, I raised the flag last night and got the first time post-ERPC done and out of the way - found it surprisingly emotional... (like a lot of thinks at the moment!) The bleeding has stopped, the opk sticks were showing a surge so we thought 'what the heck' and went for it. I think you're right IQ, if my body's up for it then it'll happen, if it's not ready yet then it won't. And if the opk sticks are picking up stray hormones then I was never in with a chance anyway, but have cleared a hurdle in the meantime. It's all good AND it's Friday!

Cupcakes for iamamummy and babysaurus coming right up! My miscarriages were v early the first one was 6 weeks, but doc thought it had happened earlier and the second one was at 5 weeks :( Trying hard to be positive and look forward. The doctor didn't want to do any tests yet and said that they wait for 3mc before investigating.. Stupidly did a test again this morning and got a bffn. Don't really know where my cycle is at the moment, so will try to chill out a bit. Easier said than done eh?!

I know what you mean about avoiding testing early babysaurus. It would save some heart ache. Shame I have zero will power though!! DH said I should challenge myself to leave it as late as possible to test and to buy a test in three months... As if!

Morning all...I need several and some of those cupcakes to get me through Friday...but it's nearly the weekend...again...this week seems to have flown by!!

Well...a small small amount of spotting again this morning...CD13...grrr...no sign of any EWCM either which is a shame as was hoping I might ov around the 'normal' time this cycle...ho hum...will just keep up the SWI just in case but going with the thread's PMA so am going to stay positive and take each day as it comes!! Had a good chat with Mum about it all last night...she was in a more understanding mood about it all which was helpful!

late that first time is suprisingly emotional...I found that too...but then was ok until after first AF and the first time after that was tough again too as I felt that we were properly TTC again and it brought back all those thoughts of 'here we are, back at the start again with no idea how long this is all going to take'. Glad it went ok and for more SWI and PMA for this cycle being the one!!

summer how are you getting on?

marathon not long til scan time now...thinking of you!!

baby glad to hear you've got a studio in which to work spend the day quietly on MN but can understand your frustration with the DIY! When are your helpers decending - is it this weekend?

manda how's the testing chilled out waiting/metalling going? Hang in there!

missg hope AF is behaving herself and not too heavy or painful!

Must get back to work so

late congrats on the first post-ERPC DTD. I was much like you - it felt like something to get out of the way but important. In my case it didn't help that we hadn't DTD all through the 3 months of pregnancy either so I was slightly surprised there wasn't a padlock down there

I have started metalling today after being quite reasonable for the last few weeks. Felt queasy this morning and immediately assumed the best. In reality I probably haven't even ovulated this month yet; only DTD once since my AF as DH then went abroad and it's far too early. Also, I didn't fancy any brekky and had a cup of tea, and caffeine on an empty stomach tends to make me queasy. But I will insist it is A SIGN

Last day in the office before Ibiza so sod it, I can think as many happy thoughts as I want, however silly they are.

Also had a bit of a watershed moment this morning. I have been wishing my life away ever since we started TTC in June last year. However round at our friends' house last night with a 3 week old with colic who didn't stop crying I realised I need to start cherishing these pre-children days too and enjoying them while I can instead of wishing the time away. Not sure how long this mindset will last, but I will give it a go. Also going to start saying WHEN not IF I have a baby. Join me in this PMA on this happy Friday!

blue cross posts - you got there first with the PMA - like it!

Boo to the spotting, but as with my last post it may be A SIGN.

Hello all! Happy Friday! Crunchies (we need a Crunchie emoticon) all round...

Baby I had spotting randomly throughout my post-ERPC cycle and some minor spotting in the cycle after that too. I managed to get pg during that cycle though so not sure it affected anything, better DTD anyway, just in case

Late glad you've leaped over one big hurdle, I found it emotional too so totally understand where you're coming from.

Whatso you should definitely enjoy your pre-child time. Having a child is amazing but you get so little time for yourself. If I were to have my time again I'd really appreciate every lie in, every shopping trip buying clothes etc just for me, every relaxed cup of coffee drunk in a quiet cafe, every opportunity to leisurely read the paper/ a book, every night on the town where I didn't have to get home to a babysitter and/ or worry about being woken up at 5.45am to start my day with a hangover. I'm sure the other mums will agree and have things that they miss too. Having children is amazing but it's bloody tiring and your life will never be the same again. It is so worth it though

Manda any news?

Summer how are you feeling?

Nothing to report here. 8 weeks today. Scan is at 11.15am tomorrow and I'm trying not to think about it. Easier said than done as I'm sure you all understand. Am also waiting for the leukocyte test results. Interestingly, the midwife told me yesterday that mmc are very rare, less than 3% of 12 week scans result in a mmc. I was surprised at that number given that there are so many of us here who have experienced it.

My news, seeing as marathon and blue are asking is this:

Today, at supposed 8 dpo, my temp crashed to the coverline. This is exactly what happened last month, only last month I crashed at 9 dpo followed by af at 10 dpo.

So! Either I'm having an even shorter lp this month (woe!) or it's an implantation dip (yeah, right).

Tomorrow mornings temp will be very telling as last month it fell another fraction and af had started by mid morning.

Once I haven woken, though, and got my temp out of the way, my thoughts will be (almost entirely) with you, marathon. Can imagine how you're feeling right now - so hoping its good news for you. Also, I believe a crunchie emotion might look a tiny bit like a turd. Just sayin'.

Oh! And how frckin self absorbed of me: welcome to iam and boob and welcome back to late

Hey mandahugnkiss! Sending good luck vibes your way )))))))))
and glad you're enjoying the cupcakes blue crane. In reality, my cakes are not quite as fancy as you describe :) think less nigella, more hundreds and thousands and shit loads of calories -mmm calories!

Our network and email have crashed...but internet still working...can't access any of my files...but can get onto MN

whatso I have been trying to think of that as well and make the most of the time DH and I have just the two of us before I'm pg again and too shattered to do anything/we have a DC and can't get out as much etc so PMA it is!

marathon interesting stats from your midwife about MMC...kinda feeling as though most of the 3% are on MN so does seem low from the number I've heard about! It was strange...on the ante-natal thread I was on there were 3 or 4 of us who found out about MMC at out 12 week scans in the same week which is crazy!! Though because a couple of them posted about it a couple of days before I went for my scan I was more prepared for it than I would've been otherwise IYSWIM. BUT...thinking VERY positive thoughts for you tomorrow!!!

manda here's hoping it's not short LP and is in fact good news

Right...need to keep myself looking busy even though I can't actually access any of my files...

Manda I suspected you were correct and I was just being a nut case and after checking my tonsils this morning it is clearly a throat infection which usually make me feel drained and horrible......felt much more relaxed and after consulting with NHS direct they advised fluids and rest so I'm home today trying to chill out.

I had a burning and tingly sensation around my belly button yesterday and I'm ashamed to say that I had convinced myself last night that i had an infection in the amniotic fluid around biscuit - my auntie had this and ended up losing the baby at 32 weeks so am slightly paranoid - despite having no medical training I was fully convinced and so spent most of last night lying awake worrying. Which has been proven pointless now by the state of my throat and the reassurance of the nice lady at nhs direct.

Bloody hell......what a nut I am I'm turning into!!!!

Welcome to iam and boob and big wave to all the rest of you metal heads - will do a proper catch up when my body stops trying to reject my glass of milk Xxxxx

Manda when they design the emoticon they'll just have to leave the wrapper on. Talking of turds, have you read the "things kids eat" thread? If you're symptom spotting and want to feel sick, that's the thread to read.

fx for tomorrow, will be thinking of you too.

IQ get well soon!

Boobeez I'd rather have hundreds and thousands and normal icing than fancy pants stuff, cup cake this way please...

Whatso have a fab time in Ibiza!

Feeling furious at the moment as I've stayed in for most of today and yesterday afternoon waiting for a glazier and the buggers have just phoned to say that they can't now come. Grrrrr!!!

Forgot to mention that I went to get my hair done yesterday and it turns out my hairdresser is pg and due two days before I would have been with the mmc baby. Very weird to see the size of her bump and think that I would have looked like that now. Felt a little pang of sadness.