Just MC and ready to try again? Pack your leathers, black nail polish, air guitar and jump in the mosh pit for some serious metalling. All welcome! (Part 17)

[MarathonMama]

Hello! Just miscarried and ready to start again, come and join us...

Hi Peeps,

Not so sure about sunshine! It's thick horrible drizzly fog up here! Starting to clear a bit now though :). Well, i've made an appt with an acupuncturist on Monday night (when I will be CD12) to see if he can help with my short luteal phase, but from what i've been reading most of us seem to be having WTF cycles just now!! I have had spotting before the last 2 cycles (first one was only 2 days which was okay, but last one was nearly 5 days which isn't acceptable!!). Plus I ovulated 5 days earlier than usual too. WTF WTF WTF!

It's my birthday next weekend (39 - GAH!) so arranging a weekend away (not sure where yet) with hopefully lots of SWI opportunites (need to work on DS having a lie-in so we can enjoy some 'morning' time, oh I do love my optimism!). I am hoping that although i'm turning 39 my little eggs don't know they are turning 39 so won't suddenly become too decrepid anymore! It feels like the last 5 years of my life have gone by in a flash!

summer - how are you today? I have been thinking of you and your DH since your sad news. Your attitude is sterling though with PMA all the way!! As you've had 2 recurrent m/c though is there any way they will do tests are you are over 35? It was my local EPU that told me they would test me if it happened again (there is a re-current miscarriage clinic attached to the hospital). Have the cramps and bleeding subsided?

eve Ooo have a good time in Skeggie with your family! Grrr for AF arriving but as you say at least you know where you stand now and i'll be 2ww mentalling with you very soon!

blue sorry to hear AF has come back! She is a right old pain isn't she. I looked at my last cycle on FF yesterday and I had spotting all the way up until CD10! I then started spotting again on CD21 (Pah!) for 4/5 days before AF came and announced her evil arrival.

manda checked out your chart. Those cross hairs look right enough to me and CD25 as O date looks realistic? Your temps look much more stable now so I would say you are def in the luteal phase. My temps are being very eratic at the moment as it's so warm in the evenings and i'm just finishing AF so hoping they drop a bit as my coverline temp for the past 2 cycles has been 36.36 and i'm still way above that at the moment (temps haven't dropped below the coverline yet despite AF!) I did a test yesterday when AF finished and of course! BFN! And you and your DH have been busy! That puts our efforts to shame! :)

missg sounds like I am nearby in cycle dates to you (well, am on CD6 today so near enough!) we will have some 2ww mentalling together! Am liking the Basement Jaxx! Might I throw in some Groove Armada too? :)

whats how long until you are Ibiza bound? I am so envious! That sounds blissful right now!

marathon how are you feeling today?

cuttle sorry to hear about the bleeding but happy to hear mini cuttle is staying put!

IQ we have a memory foam mattress and I love it! I am a right old wriggler in bed and it stops me moving about so much (which pleases DP no end!) I used to live on cola cubes when I was feeling sick!

Waves to baby, farfallarocks, pixie, shimmery late and everybody else I might have missed !

Hello ladies, I have a confession, I've just sneaked into our local Thai restaurant for their lunch special. I've come straight from the gym and I'm wearing the associated clothes and sweat! The waiter is quite bemused. Interestingly, when pg with dd I craved Thai food like mad. At 8 months pg I walked two miles in my work lunch break to get a Thai food fix! I'm hoping this could be a sign....

Will be Back later when I'm not using this bloody phone.

missg sorry the butch witch is back, grrr

Happy Weds all!

I mean bitch witch! I'm sure she's probably butch too...

Sorry have been a bit quiet today but trying to catch up on work. Feeling much better thank you all I just want to get back to normal asap. The bleeding seems to be getting lighter (although still there) and I haven?t needed codeine today so no cramping (FX).

Blue I think you are the queen of the WTF whether it be WTF cycle WTF AF ? just basically WTF????? Although FX for your SWI last night and yay for September!

whatso ?Poster girl?? why thank you. If I am on the wall with the metalheads does that mean I can be a ?virtual? rock chick with flowing locks, tiny waist and big boobies? Obv I am clad in foxy leather and looking cool rather than slutty hope you enjoyed your girlie night, I quite like it when DH is away (as long as not for too long) as I have the house to myself (and DS who obviously has taken over the complete area as his toddler pad )

Thank you for your nice words baby how is the decorating going?

IQ isn?t it funny that you only feel positive when you are feeling crappy?! I remember when pg with DS I was a complete metal head when I was feeling good ? I longed for vomiting and exhaustion And as for your morning ?kitchen? I am all astonishment!

missg I am a rock chick at heart but I always have a little room for a bit of a dance so yay for Basement Jaxx ? but can I have rendezvous? As that one makes me bop my head like a look

manda you have just given me a hangover with your list of booze! Sounds like a good night was had though

typo:

missg I am a rock chick at heart but I always have a little room for a bit of a dance so yay for Basement Jaxx ? but can I have rendezvous? As that one makes me bop my head like a loon

MarathonMama Not sure when the next scan will be as it's going to be a private one and I'm still in "discussions" with DP as to when would be best. He's really keen on announcing the pregnancy now that we've seen the heartbeat, but I'm still a little bit petrified after the bleed. Maybe at week 10? Won't have the NHS scan till 12 weeks now. Glad your previous craving has come back - now put your feet up and enjoy more thai!

Summerbird I would be ignoring the advice to wait too, and getting straight back in that mosh pit!

Manda I must admit that the charts are completely beyond me, I'm very much a dtd every other day person! But am now metalling on your behalf because of the nipples and sickness...

Takes non-alcoholic cocktail from BlueCrane's tray. Thank you, I never get round to making these at home! Becks Blue is a really good non-alcoholic beer, but I'm a cider drinker, and haven't found a decent one yet.

Whatsoever I've just found a weekly pregnancy yoga class in my area, I'm mega excited to start, but as we haven't announced yet, I'm a bit paranoid they'll be someone I know there - how would I explain that one! Hope you and Babysaurus are feeling a bit less exhausted soon.

InsomniaQueen, I also know have a second kitchen, but I need to get a mini fridge as at the moment I'm demanding an activia type yogurt drink in the morning, and my DP has exactly 12 seconds to comply from the kitchen fridge. He doesn't understand that I need to drink it before I open my eyes!

Have just bought my groceries online again - have told DP that this is the only way we will be shopping for the next 8 months!

summer you can be styled in whatever way you wish to grace the poster - personally I have nothing against slutty but cool is fine too!

Pie 4 sleeps until Ibiza! Went for a big toiletries shop today and booked my bikini wax - so I'm pretty much sorted

DH called from Japan today. He sounded knackered but he was very pleased with himself as he had been brave and eaten raw octopus and tomorrow they are going to a big baseball game at the Tokyo Dome after work.

I am contemplating going to the cinema on my own tonight. DH didn't fancy Bridesmaids and I do so might as well go while he's away and I'm at a loose end. How odd that I have got to 30 and never cinema-d solo before.

cuttle when do they let you start the pregnancy yoga class? I only ask because I enquired about one in my area and they only took ladies from 14 weeks onwards, so I never actually made it there. I will definitely go WHEN (PMA: not if) I get upduffed again. You get all the usual benefits of yoga but it's also anecdotally supposed to make labour a wee bit easier. Presumably because you are bendier but who knows?

Hello ladies, had my ERPC yesterday and feel absolutely fine, no pain and pretty much no bleeding - phew! Can I pick your collective brains please?

I literally just did an opk strip and it's showing a feint second line - I know that's not a positive but it's something I've noticed in the past as a precursor to a positive... I got a negative pg test over a week ago (after first scan at EPU but before ERPC).... could I be about to get an LH surge? Am I getting a bit ahead of myself? Am I about to lay an egg already?!

Hi late glad to hear you're feeling well and not got any pain...sometimes the bleeding will come and go so you may not be through it all yet, but here's hoping you might be! The extra line on the opk is likely to be caused by left over hcg still in your system I think rather than you being about to Ov! It took me 4.5 weeks from my ERPC to get a bfn on a pregnancy test though others have had shorter and longer waits...it's totally up to you but I would personally avoid unprotected sex until you have a bfn so that you know where you're up to (so if you then start testing to see if you get a bfp before AF arrives you can be confident that if you do get one it's new and not left over IYSWIM)...the docs will often say wait until after first AF for SWI but for me as soon as I knew the old hcg had gone I was happy to start SWI again!

Unbelieveably hot here - I just took my temp and it's 37.9 which is TOO HOT.

late I would say it's possible you're about to O, but as you had an erpc yesterday, your linin wouldn't be able to sustain a pregnancy if you did catch the egg.

But, other than that, many women who use opks find they get a few surges/patches of fertile cm before but do not necessarily O in the cycle directly after the procedure. Can I ask how many weeks you were? And, I presume you're looking to ttc straight away?

Uh, I'm gonna expire I think.

late I've just realised that I totally didn't read your post properly at all tired, too hot...sorry...disregard my comments about waiting for bfn etc etc!!

Thanks Bluecrane and Manda
I would have been 12 weeks tomorrow (should have been having my scan ), started bleeding at 10 weeks, the baby hadn't made it past 4....
I've done a couple of pg tests since the bleeding started and all were bfn which kind of helped me accept the pregnancy was over. I just did the opk sticks on the off-chance (yes, I'm trying to get up-diffed as soon as I can - age-paranoia!) and 3 have shown the surge now... it's so difficult to know anything at this stage in the game isn't it - a friend of mine fell pg 2 weeks after her mmc, but hers was a natural one not an erpc. Good point about the lining, hadn't thought of that.

Hi everyone, can I join? I used to post on this thread after my mc in jan but it got too much thinking about it all the time.

Fast forward about 7 months and after looking for any sign that I could be pregnant I really think I might be this month had bleeding last 2 days, only spotting but not af not till monday. Boobs are hurting and have felt and been sick last few days. Did test this morning and bfn. Its driving of slightly mad.

shorty welcome back so when is your AF due? i am thinking that if your sore boobies were a PG sign then the pg test would be a BFP - however - what kind of test are you doing? i find that the only reliable ones are the CB digi's although they are pricey - the boots digis are cheaper and just as good i think.

good to hear from you late i was hoping you would be lurking DH and i decided to wait for one AF to get out of the way before starting again (the last time) but that is totally your choice, although i agree with manda that the lining may not sustain another pregnancy so soon. good luck though, i see you are in our camp of PMA all the way! how old are you BTW? there seem to be a few in the late 30's on this thread (or nearly 40s in my case!)

whatso did you go to the cinema? i went on my own after DS was born (DH looked after him obv!) and went to see The Lovely Bones - there was only me and another woman in the cinema. It was quite refreshing being on my own actually - you dont get DH digging you in the ribs for more popcorn etc! Do you go to the Trafford Centre or the Lowry? I go to either of those or the little one in Alti.

cuttle loving your online shop - you will be soooo grateful for that when your LO comes along - you will be doing midnight orders for sainsbos basics ginsuppliesifyouareanythinglikeme--- whilst feeding DC!!

oops i posted that too quick

ok so my mum is being fucking useless a tad unsympathetic. she rang again tonight and said 'well yes i was talking to betty/agnes/florence (delete as appropriate for her colleagues name) and we were saying that in our day you didnt even know you were preggy until you had missed a period and the GP wouldnt even entertain you until you were circa 8 weeks yada yada. i said 'yes well i know that but i KNEW i was preggy - that is the difference' she then got all defensive and said 'yes well i am not taking anything away from the situation yada yada'

FFS i was so fucking angry i cut the conv short and said i had to make DH's tea all i want is for her to say 'oh no i am so sorry pet (shes a geordie)' here is a virtual 'down the phone' hug from me. because that is what DMIL said

i have decided not to fucking bother in future - when i started this counselling she said that i could talk to her anytime - yeah right

[lush] but she makes me so fucking angry sometimes

[lush]??? i meant

Well my cycles are still all over since mc, but going on last month my af is due on monday.

I have been spotting last 2 days so think if I haven't started by friday theres a good chance I could be pregnant.

I just did a really cheap one as I didn't expect it to be positive.

Summerbird know how you feel about people being unsympathetic, I have no one to really talk to about it. Dh says I am being impatient and what will be will be which drives me crazy. I'll send you a virtual hug x

Hello all,
So sorry I have been unable to post. We are trying to sort out the house (well, now we have a finished bedroom, sort out other rooms in the house in a temporary way as much as possible - we both work from home you see) and I am frigging knackered now!
I have only skimmed through today's posts as my eyes are closing but will try and read properly, and respond, tomorrow where I am more likely to get the right person / details and so on.
Night all! x

Shorty welcome back

Summer sorry to hear your mum pissed you off. Didn't get to see a film Got to the cinema (Trafford Centre btw) and it was rammed. Queued for 10 minutes to find Bridesmaids had sold out so gave up and left - didn't fancy anything else. Then checked twitter and someone had warned me it was Orange Wednesday and would be chocka - Doh! Wish I'd checked before I left. Never mind.

Morning all,

I will catch up properly later but just wanted to entertain you with my current life......I have a works meal tonight and so was looking for something to wear. I tried on 6 dresses all were too small - I actually got stuck in one and got to the point where I thought I would have to get DH to cut me out of it (image of me hoping around the spare room in dress stuck around my shoulders and neck and totally covering my face) - everything seems to be too small in the bust and the arms......I was fully prepared for this but not really right now. Have managed to find something which fits up top and conceals my growing tummy - thank god!!!!

Went in to say bye to DH and told him of my outfit escapades and his reply was "don't blame me blame the biscuit".....it's the first time he has refered to mini IQ by the name I've given them and has made me slightly weepy.....really what is the world coming to when despite having 2 wardrobes of clothes I can't find anything to wear.....I feel a shopping trip coming on!!!!!

Speak later xxxx

IQ you have given me a few smiles with your hopping round in a too-tight dress image! Also makes me laugh because when I was pg DH (and he was right in my case it turned out) had a theory that I was getting biggger due to the food baby and not the real baby, so "blame it on the biscuit" had an entirely different meaning in my case

Hoep you enjoy your works meal.

Morning all...anyone for chocolate cake...need to share the large cake brought in by a colleague this morning before I guzzle it all!!

whatso I also had similar weight gain for what turned out to be food related reasons rather than mini-blue! IQ am sure it was an interesting sight of you hopping around in too tight dress! I had that happen in a changing room at Debenhams once and was contemplating having to ask the assistant to help when I managed to work my way free

summer so sorry to hear about your conversation with your Mum...mine was a bit similar with my MMC...she'd never heard of an MMC before and really couldn't get her head around it at all...to the point where I think she was wondering if I'd actually been pregnant at all and referred several times to it not really being a baby even though I kept reminding her that it was the start of life etc etc!! I can't imagine not knowing until 8 weeks+ but maybe we now live in a time where everything is instantaneous and so we're less patient?! But then once you do know you do make a space in your life/start planning etc etc as others have said so the loss is still very real! Hope you're doing ok today?

I think...hopefully...that AF might have finally departed...had some brown when I wiped this morning (sorry TMI!) but no more spotting and at CD12 I should hope so!! Not going to manage any SWI until Saturday though due to DH's shifts but no sign of any EWCM so not too stressed about waiting. Had another friend announce her pg last night - she knows about the MC so was v sweet and rang me to tell me rather than me find out at her BBQ on Saturday and said she totally understands if I don't feel I can go etc. Said she's only 8 weeks but showing already so they've had to tell everyone (it's DC3 for her) seems quite early so really hope it all works out ok for them!

Must get back to work so

Hello ladies, sorry for being AWOL, my wireless has been down and I've been all jittery without my hourly dose of the fabulous metalling thread

So, I booked with the midwives this morning. I had the same midwife I had last time and she clearly knew she'd seen me before and kept saying congratulations again until I told her about the mmc. The appointment wasn't any shorter, she had to put all the info into the system all over again (note to David Cameron, I see an efficiency saving here). I'm a bit concerned because at my last booking appointment I had raised leukocytes (sp?) in my urine and the baby must have died around the time of that appointment. I have raised leukocytes again now and need some more tests so am totally paranoid I'm going to mc again. The midwife was reassuring but couldn't really say what it means, apart from that it can be a sign of infection.

I've also bitten the bullet and arranged a scan for Sat. I phoned to book an appointment in a few weeks but the consultant is going away for 4 weeks so can only do this Sat or in 5 weeks time. Eek!

Hello Shorty keeping everything crossed for you!

IQ glad your biscuit is making life difficult, such a good sign. With my mmc I was still wearing my skinny jeans at 13 weeks and I thought I was doing so well and would wear my bump just like all those skinny schelbs who barely put on a pound. Can we add "Jelly Belly Rules" to our mantras?

Blue Woohoo to AF buggering off... now on to business...

Whatso DH and I went to see Bridesmaids last night, what a coincidence! DH quite enjoyed it but he was the only bloke in the cinema, he said it had enough toilet humour (literally) to keep him amused, so you may find your DH enjoys it too. The cinema was absolutely chocca with queues into the car park and now I understand why. Do you get free tickets on Orange Weds? Luckily I'd booked in advance.

Summer sorry to hear about the lack of understanding from the olds. They really are clueless sometimes. Hope you're still feeling eye of the tiger and are ready to get back on the wagon soon.

shouts hello to everyone I missed! Pad Thai all round....

blue - yay for the end of your AF (hopefully)?.and yes please for some chocolate cake?just had a subway and feel hungry again!!! My ever expanding tummy is bloating from my ?sluggish? digestive system?..i normally have a very flat stomach and so being sat on the sofa yesterday in a bikini trying desperately to keep cool whilst DH looks at me in horror was disconcerting to say the least!!!

missG - when I read that your DD was 15 I had a little giggle.....for some reason I just assumed that she would be little!!! Plus sorry the evil AF got you as well?..that makes a number of you all going into the 2ww at the same time over the coming weeks.

manda - ok I will let you off being a tease if fertility friend is being annoying ? so when would you normally test?..that way I know how long I have to wait!!!

pie - I hope that the acupuncturists work something out for you?..keeping fingers crossed for positive results.

marathon - thai food?.yummie!!! ok well we shall be waiting on tenterhooks on Saturday for your news. I have now had my 12 weeks week scan letter (10th September)?.praying that we get there!!! Pad thai?.make mine a large please!!!!

summer - I love the way you apologised for being busy at work rather than being busy on MN??I believe we should be worried about work but then I think ive given up with work at the moment, MN and you ladies are so much more interesting. Morning kitchen is a life saver?.now I just need to convince DH that his beer fridge would serve me better as a place to keep my water cool and everything would be amazing!!! Bloody Dr?s and mothers ? drive me insane?..i just wish they understood how much TTC and pg can take over your every waking thought maybe they would actually think before they say things to you ? like the lovely Dr who when I got pg again and told her about the previous MC said ?well its very common so you just have to try to put the pg to the back of your mind and not let it worry you?? ..yeah right or my mother who said ?well at least it happened now and not later??......I lost my temper and shouted back "really - well I just wished it hadn?t happened at all" - you can imagine thinsgs were a little fragile for a while!!!

cuttle fully agree on the fridge (try argos that?s where I got mine from). As for shopping online I have been lucky that my sister has been around to come with me and help with bags ect when DH was away. Once he goes I will back to online cos I just cant carry the stuff!!! I?m having a private scan done on the 17th (scared but excited) so DH can see biscuit before he goes away - just hoping all is still ok in there.

whatso raw octopus?..sick face!!! He he he. Sorry you couldn?t see your movie ? don?t worry it will be on DVD soon enough.

late welcome back?.glad that the ERPC went well (IYSWIM) and that your not suffering too much. Im going to go with my gut and say its all in your hands. The best advise given to me by the Dr was that ?it will only happen if your body is ready??..so if your body is ready to ?lay and egg? (brilliant image by the way) then it will, you may or may not become pg and both of these scenarios are something to think about.

shorty welcome to the thread?..i agree with the resident test expert (summer) depending on what your using you may or may not get a positive. I used an IC 3 days overdue and got a faint positive, used CB digi and got a result straight away.

Waves to baby, eve (hope holiday is going well), shimmery and farfallarocks?whew I think I got everyone!!!!