so here it is, a new home for us newly updiffed ladies or still seeking that golden egg after a mc part 3

[mrsb33]

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ladies here it is our new home, ive tried my best, im not very good at the witty banter so hopefully this will do, get yourself comfortable it could be a bumpy ride with me at the helm!!!

Ok.............so am having pains at the top of my tummy. I just searched the old jue in june thread to see if this happened last time and at what stage and it did..............so now I am in full on mental mood. Does it ever end? I actually look proper pregnant today as well and told someone.
I noticed when looking back at the old thread that me wombat and yellow all mc'd within 6 days of each other, we sure are on a bumpy ride together.
I need

Ooooooh yellow - how fantastic to hear your news. Sorry you're feeling quite so sick but so for you! Have been thinking about you all day but out and about and blackberry rubbish for mn.

Sorry to hear you're in full on mental worm - would you want to try and get to an EPAU or private scan for some reassurance? I am also getting tummy pains today and feeling a bit sick but no idea why....

Great to hear that you have the docs booked mrsb and would second yellow's point about going in with a good idea of what you're after. Perhas emma could give you some pointers given her recent success with docs....

Hope you are having a lovely time with your friend sparkly and had a successful shopping trip.

I feel as if I have been shopping today because..... drumroll please...... we picked up our Christchurch luggage today!! It was like Christmas opening it up and finding all the stuff we'd forgotten about! It all seems pretty intact and all there bar my electric toothbrush, but I'm really not too fussed about that one

We were very brave and positive today and went full-on stroller and nursery furniture browsing today - eek! It was a nice experience though and DH was making all the shop staff laugh with his formula 1 racing impressions with the various models

Oh worm you poor thing, are the pains similar to before? I've been having all sorts of random pains this time which I don't remember from before.

Sending you much love and hugs. Please keep posting let us know how you are.

What stage did you mc last time, was it a mmc or did it just happen?

So sorry you are having this mental, have fingers and legs tightly crossed.

((((hugs)))))

Grrr just typed long post to you wo and internet ate it.

So sorry you are having thus stress, is pain same as before, is it same stage?

Keeping everything crossed for you and sending love and hugs

((((((hugs)))))))

Thanks girls
Well last time was totally different in that I never got any sickness in that PG, so I guess I should feel a bit cheered that I still have this, albeit fading. The pain is exactly the same, right at the top of my tummy. When I had it when last MC started the doctor said that it was probably another issue ,not pg related and google comes up with gastric issues when I search. They are like contractions but right at the top, feels like tummy goes hard and squeezing.
Last time it started like this on the monday, tues I had a brown wipe, red blood and cramps by friday, a scan with heartbeat on tuesday followed an hour later by complete lose. So going on that I suppose it could be gastric, and just happened to preceed the MC. Let the knicker checking commence..............
Feel bad to have said this today yellow when we should be filled with good news from your scan, hopefully I'm being neurotic, someone put me to sleep and wake me up on january the 16th!

Please don't feel bad at all worm that's what we're here for and I am sure there are many more mentals to come from me.

I really hope pains stop soon, I guess pains there could be lots of things.

The sickness is a v good sign and you are at the stage now when you might start to feel less sick anyway.

Keep us posted and I'll be here for hugs and mugs of tea.

I did a post yesterday and it seems to have been eaten , happened a couple of times lately. It is me with a new name, honest Sparkly!!

worm so sorry you're worrying lovely, how is it this morning?

yellow fantastic scan news!! Sorry you're feeling sick but happy all at the same time x

I'm on phone and forgotten everything else, brain is shot! Be back later on laptop x

Blimey worm - you could be describing exactly the same pains I am feeling right now. I am fairly sure I can put it down to something gastro / digestive as my toilet trips this morning have not been pleasant - sorry if TMI.... how are you doing this morning? REally hope there's nothing else and that your mentalling can subside. Sending hugs.

How is DP after scan yellow and how are you now you've had a bit of time for it to sink in....? Continued mentalling to be fully expected so if you still are, please don't feel bad..... I'm still v for you.

Waves to all xx

worm I've been lounging in bed thinking of you and was wondering if you could have wind? Just that one evening quite early on I was in tears because my tummy was cramping, and it was wind! So hard to tell the difference! Hope you're ok x

wombat sorry didn't check for other posts. When are you moving? Must be coming up soon.

Morning girls
I am having a reasuringly vomitous morning got to admit I was testing myself by only having one breakfast, and vomit was the result!
I havn't had the pain today, guess it could be wind, just seems weird that I only get it when PG.

It just took me a good five minutes to work out who you were harassed/pup had to stalk you before I sussed it! [thicko emocion] glad you are still with us!

Well girls, if you are in the mood for parting with your cash then have a look at www.asos.com/Women/Sale/Maternity/Cat/pgecategory.aspx?cid=6413 I have my eye on quite a bit if/when I have a good scan!

Have a lovely weekend all, thanks for listening to me x

Morning all

Glad you are feeling a bit calmer worm hurrah for vomit!

I had a nap for an hour last evening then slept 9 hours. There are only a couple of hours in a day when I don't feel sick so sleeping is a relief.

Me and dp talked about the pregnancy for the first time last night, made it all seem more real but I'm very aware I am not in the safe zone yet.

I am thinking I might have to tell work sooner as am really struggling to sit upright at my desk never mind be effective.

Can't remember how did it go with your boss pup? my main concern is that I've only been there 3 months and I do a unique role and the client wanted continuity. I guess it can't be helped but they will be less than impressed. I'm wondering if I should share the donor egg diagnosis I was given to try to show that it wasn't my intention to start a new job and get pg. I know it's not really their business but thought it might help if they understand the background. Mind you after I had been offered the job and contract signed they sent me a form asking about all contact with drs over the past 3 years. I didn't mention the mc or erpc as thought it wasn't their business and it wasn't dependent on me getting job but wonder if I could get into trouble with mentioning it now. Does anyone know?

Also has anyone tried travel bands for sickness? I'm willing to try anything at this stage.

I have to write an essay for my course in the next 2 weeks and just can't face it, would be a shame to fail at the last fence though.

Waves to all

Ohhhh girls sorry your all going through abit of a tough time with your pregnancys and feeling a bit green! Yuck!! I don't envy that bit!
Been doing a lot of thinking recently about where I'm at in my life and how this whole mmc,ttc lark has affected me, and it didn't dawn on me till today really. My sister commented on a picture of me taken during my wedding last year and how relaxed and happy I looked! And she was so right, I did then, now I look at myself and I don't feel that way, this whole process has aged me terribly! So I've took the decition to step out for a little while.
I will keep dipping in to see how you all are, and give u some updates as and when I have anything to update but feel its time to take a break from the process before it sends me mad!
Thanks for all your support over the last few months, love you all lots, my mumsnet family.
Take care rachael x

Thanks Worm, just spent £58 in the asos sale! Pretty sensible stuff, did have the harem trousers in my basket before I remembered I was 37 and a size 14
I had to wonder who Pup was too; I don't know why I have a reputation for savagely attacking intruders innocent lurkers!
Marathon, I went to Sheffield Uni too, back in the day! We were tempted to crash Bar One but it's probably best left in the past! I met DH in the Leadmill, happy days. Had a lovely time bimbling about and reminiscing, seemed weird to be sat sedately having a cuppa in a cafe when normally we'd have been on a nostalgic pub crawl, but never mind, it's a new era.
Happy weekend everyone x

((((mrsB)))))) I know you must feel really down to have made that decision, life sucks sometimes, a break maybe just the thing you need, finding something else to focus on with maybe a bit of baby making in the background. Look at yellow she had virtually given up hope, got herself a new job to keep her occupied and now look! Wish I could do something for you x

sparkly no problem it's my pleasure! what did you get?

yellow could you be worrying too much over this? I mean surely it would be no surprise to any company employing someone of child-bearing age, that they fall pregnant? It may help if you explain, well from a personal level for you, but at the end of the day you don't need to. There are strict guidlines in place regarding discrimination that HR will know all about. Once you have a baby you will be amazed how much your mindset changes, and the things at work that you used to get stressed over just don't anymore. Believe Me you won't give a toss about work once bubba is here.

Ah mrsb - I am really sorry to hear that it's all getting to you and I completely understand you wanting to take some time out. I can imagine also that it must be v hard with some of us now updiffed and chatting about the stuff I'm sure you want to be involved with too. Sending many hugs - we will miss you and hope to see you back here soon xx

It's a real toughie yellow and I think your idea of taking in the egg donor notes is quite a sensible one (if you feel comfortable revealing that level of detail). Seems unusual that they asked for 3 years worth of doctor contact - surely that would relate to discrimination if they had known about your history and then not offered you the job. Mind you, I'm not up on the latest employment law.....

Oh Mrsb that makes me sad. I hope you enjoy some time away and manage to be happy and relaxed again soon.

Yellow I agree with what Worm says, you really won't care about work in the medium term. I was surprised how much I lost interest after dd was born. It all seemed so petty, the politics, endless navel-gazing, pointless meetings etc. It's still hard to know how to tell your employers and I don't see why you shouldn't mention the egg donor point if you're comfortable doing so and think it'll soften the blow.

Sparkly I was at the uni too, '95-98. I loved it there! Bar One, The Park and Foundry, Pajama Jump, the Leadmill, Roxy's etc. Those were the days! I haven't been back for years, bet it's all changed. I know all the Halls have been destroyed now which is such a pity.

Aw, MrsB, we cross-posted earlier, and it looked like I'd trampled over you to get to the discounted ruched jersey! Your post was very poignant, I hope you pop in, and re-join us when you feel ready. A break from it all will do you the world of good if it's affecting you so badly. Take care x
Marathon, work already seems really petty and pointless, and I'm looking forward to handing over to someone else come December. I'd like to go back 3 days a week next year, they won't give me back my current position but are, before Wombat gets out the statute books obliged to give me an equivalent role on the same pay. Less responsibility, same dosh, win-win!
Yellow, must be difficult, you seem to have a proper career unlike me tossing about so I can imagine you don't want to scupper anything. Do you want the full 9 months off when bubs arrives? I know a career girl who only took five weeks off for hers, she is lovely and enjoys being a mum but it's not her life. She's slipped back into being super-successful like she was never away (which, to all intents, she wasn't really!)
The asos sale was ace, I got some 'peg' trousers (possibly a mistake as am 5ft4), a couple of smart-ish wrap tops, a silk vest top and a couple of long-sleeved jersey numbers. I think my work wardrobe is now sorted, just need another nice pair of jeans; Gap had some decent ones the other week when I looked, that will see me through.
Oooh, Roxy's. Though I was more of a Kiki's girl myself when I wasn't indie-ing it up in the Leadmill of a Saturday night!

Awww mrsb33 I'll miss you. I totally understand why you need a break and another focus though. It really helped me to get this new job and take my mind off things....Please do pop in and/or lurk as it suits you and we'd love to hear any updates from you even if not baby related. Hope you manage to find your va va voom again. Big hugs and lots of love to you.

Thanks for the work advice ladies. I wouldn't really say I've got a 'proper' career but it is a properly job and my company and particularly my department takes work very seriously and everyone works extremely hard. Not to give too much away but most of my department are based in the USA and me and one other person were recruited to launch plans in Europe so we're the only 2 in the UK from our particular dept although we sit within the rest of the UK based company.

I am thinking of taking 6 months off, seems like a good compromise but tbh I am still not at the stage of thinking this will work out so it's a bit of an abstract concept to think about. And I've really got no experience at all with children or babies and so have no idea how I'll feel. A friend of mine went back after 3 months and she said that after 2 months she was bored and looking forward to going back. I just know that I love sleep and a new baby and sleep are not always that compatible! I also work long hours, often 10 or 12 hours so not sure what kind of childcare would work with that and DP is the same. I guess I'll just have to see. I have heard that round here you need to sign up for a nursery place when you are 12 weeks pg to get a place......eeekkk!

The thing is the contract was a done deal when they asked for the medical stuff which is why I was more comfortable with my omission. I know that if you lie on CV or about stuff before you get offered the job then that can be v serious but this was after. Tbh I thought it was nosy and unnecessary. Why would it help them to know I'd had 2 mc when someone else equally may not have had any but still go on to get pg soon. The rest of the company contains a number of pg people (3 at the moment) and the policies are quite generous. It's just the UK part is a kind of subsidary of the US part and I'm directly working with the US part although I've got a UK contract if that makes sense?

Anyway, worm you are right I am probably worrying too much....it's just that feeling as sick as I have been I was thinking I might have to tell them sooner rather than later so they can be more understanding and let me go home early when I'm feeling grim.

In other news I got some of those travel bands today and remarkably am not feeling sick for the first time in weeks! Was feeling very sick this am and then put them on and bingo, felt much better. Has anyone else tried them before? Seems like magic although I'll see how long it lasts!

Worm hope you are ok - I actually ended up on casualty with the first pregnancy as I had really back cramps at 11 weeks - they couldn't tell what was wrong but went home had a bath and yes, it was just wind (a lot of it mind)!

We have 3 more days of SWI - and then blood tests on Wednesday - hope awful if I didn't even ovulate.... the OPK never seem to work for me :(

Mrsb I'm with you - this time last year I was running 1/2 marathons on a regular basis and fitted some really nice clothes, now I am not even buying clothes in the vague hope that I will be pregnant soon.

I have a heap of stuff from ASOS that arrived 2 days after I miscarried (I was getting big at 11 weeks and thought I was home and dry). It still sits unopened in my office at work...

Night off from SWI tonight and then carcking on tomorrow so won't be online tomorrow :)

Waves to all and have a wonderful sunny day tomorrow

yellow your situation sounds exactly the same as mine before dd was born. I put her name down for three nurseries when I was 7 months pg to start full time when she was 6 months old. I didn't get a place until she was 10 months old and then it was only for one day! Would definitely recommend putting your name on the list asap.

I ended up staying at home and not going back because my DH and I both worked 10-12 hour days and also commuted into London but the nursery hours didn't cover the time we were away. I wasn't comfortable with a nanny (I used to go to a childminder after school and she used to strap the babies she looked after into pushchairs and then watch the snooker, she didn't engage with them at all). I also didn't like the idea of not seeing dd at all during the week and my job wasn't something you could do part time, so I gave it up and became a SAHM. It was scary and I do miss some elements of work, mostly the adult conversation and male company, not the actual work (which seems trivial now).

I am also the same about sleep! I remember stressing soooo much about the labour and birth (I'd been told I had a low pain threshold) but that bit was ok, the bit afterwards with the sleep deprivation was far worse! It does get easier though, relatively quickly, although doesn't seem like it at the time.

Sparkly 5 weeks? That's impressive, she must be superwoman! I'm afraid I was talks in a whisper a Pop Tarts girl on Saturdays I'm sorry, please carry on talking to me Btw, would definitely recommend Topshop maternity jeans, I'm not usually a Topshop person (being elderly) but I loved their maternity jeans.

Heavens above - there is no hope for us! If yellow describes working for MI6 as not really having a "proper" career then I'm not sure what is - answers on a postcard please!

I found that some months I didn't get a smiley face with the opk emma which was really frustratin (not to say expensive too). I am wondering what "carcking on" is.... some strange tradition in your part of the world?!

And how are you today worm? REally hope the pains have settled and there is nothing else to report for now - the days are ticking down to your scan.....

Never tried travel bands yellow as my sickness never got that bad, but I have heard others swear by them and I guess not an expensive remedy.... maybe you could try experimenting with taking them off too (if you dare!) Your 6 months off sounds like a good compromise although I'm told it whizzes by. Am I right in saying that in the UK you can extend your time if you want to providing you give them enough notice? I am actually leaving the company here as I really wanted a couple of months off before junior arrives and as maternity leave here is only 45 calendar days then I would be back at work before he was born! People tend to work right up to the point of popping - not for me thanks.... I have this rose-tinted vision of doing the lady what lunches for a couple of months, in reality, I wonder if I'll actually get my a*se off the sofa!

Good recommendations on the mat jeans purchases ladies - thanks. I'll be raiding those stores when I'm back next month. In the mean time marathon what was so bad about Pop Tarts? Never been there (or to Sheffield in fact) but I'm intrigued now....!

Forgive my ignorance sparkly but what on earth are peg trousers? They sound a tad painful....

In other news, I should be meeting up with one of the ladies from the Freak Out thread on Tues as she is here on hols. Will be very interesting (I think....) - I don't think I've shared as much personal stuff on there as I have with you lot, so hopefully it won't be too embarassing. I think I may have felt junior making some movements yesterday but with all the digestive gurgling going on it could have been something else entirely - am still v impatient to get something more definite.....

You're meeting up with someone Wombat?! Am
I think with peg trousers, picture the old-fashioned wooden pegs that taper and are shite stylish (I have some, oh yes). Then picture a 5ft4 size 14 podgy 37 year old attempting to carry off the shape I think this is the time to indulge in crazy fashion, at no other time would I team pegs with a horizontal stripey top, but, oh yes, it's all coming out this season!
Hope you're all enjoying the sun ladies! Gave me a headache but an icecream and an afternoon nap helped. Now contemplating a rose wine and soda.....just a wee one! I think the baby must be craving grapes.....