so here it is, a new home for us newly updiffed ladies or still seeking that golden egg after a mc part 3

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ladies here it is our new home, ive tried my best, im not very good at the witty banter so hopefully this will do, get yourself comfortable it could be a bumpy ride with me at the helm!!!

Loads and loads of recovery hugs to you yellow and big kisses for Scarlett and thank you for taking the time to update us on your eye-widening experience. I'm absolutely thrilled for you that you are safe and sound back home with Scarlett and having those wonderful newborn snuggles and feeding sessions. Sounds like your DP is being an absolute trooper as well - steak and wine is the bees knees! Three cheers for the tomato family DH says big congrats too. Have you told your acu guy yet? I should think he's feeling pretty chuffed too! How is the feeding going? Also, had you any clues that she was going to be such a bonny size? Let us know if you have any qus about post cs recovery. One of the best bits of advice I was given was to keep taking the pain killers even if you think you're ok, don't wait for the pain to kick in. I did this once in the first week and knew aobut it! The digestive insides took a while to sort themselves out and I found prune juice helped. I can't tell you how much joy I took from reading all about your new found love. Tis true sparkly - I had quite a tear in my eye while reading her post. It is quite incredible how far we have all come and we'll be waiting patiently for kool next - so very sorry to read that DH has been so unwell. I do hope that you're getting lots of good support in RL. Huge hugs to you and bump xx

Big smooches and copious chocolate brownies all round in fact - you guys are officially the best xx

You've scared me sparkly ! I've sent it back and can now rest easy .

How's it going yellow ? It's just hit me that Scarlett is bigger than mine is now !

Just another quickie....all still going v well, she is so amazing and beautiful and I love feeding her and cuddles and just staring at her feeling like the luckiest, most blessed, contented person in the world. I really couldn't ask for anymore and just get tearing when I think how fortunate I am and that I never knew there were feelings loike this. DP is off for another week and he has just been perfect telling me how well I've done and I'm still yet to change a nappy!

Cs recovery seems to be going well, I've not had any pain but am regularly taking painkillers and not planning to stop til they run out. Finished anti biotics today and only 6 more injections yet so feels like I'm getting there.

V sorry to hear your news kool big hugs and love to you.

And gushings of love to the rest of you too, will work on reading and responding to your posts soon I promise. X

Aw yellow- you're making me all teary too! I'm soooooo pleased to hear it's all going so well, including feeding. Great that you have finished the anti-bs and that you're doing so well on the cs recovery too. I remember it started getting more sore for me after about a week (probably when the painkillers stopped!) It really is so lovely to hear from you - keep 'em coming when you can!

I also love feeding now, I'd say it was definitely about 6 weeks until I really got in the swing of things. IT feels very special to be the one giving them all the nutrition they need - I think I'll really miss it when we finish. It's so convenient too - I'm a bit of a lazy sausage at times and just wapping out a boob is soooo easy!

We tried Jack in his own cot in his own room last night as someone suggested that we can disturb them as much as they disturb us and as he's waking at least 4 times a night still, we thought we'd try it. I think he did sleep for longer periods so we might be onto something - will keep you posted.... looking at his moses basket without him in it though made me really though - it's true what they say about them growing up so fast....

Mum and dad get here for 3 weeks a week today which I'm actually really looking forward to - I think now that I feel as if I know what I'm doing a bit more and I know him really well that I'll be more settled around them. 2 weeks in to their stay, the MIL arrives for 3 weeks so we have visitors for 5 weeks in total - think I will need many then!

Love to you all and special cuddles for Scarlett x

Aw, sorry Worm, didn't mean anything by it, feel bad now!
Yellow, you sound amazing, it makes me feel quite guilty for thinking Gabes is a little shit challenging at the moment!
Can't post much as he is chewing my nipple off; expect I will miss bf when I stop but right now it's a chore, I don't think I'm producing enough as Gabes isn't chubbing out, and I'm doing it out of a sense of duty rather than enjoyment at the moment which is rather sad. The HV is round on Monday for the 8 week check, she's lovely so I'll see what she advises.
Wombat you sound together as always. You'll miss little one in your room, I suspect he'll be back for cuddles quite frequently
Right, hot bath then lasagne and red wine (for the calcium and iron, natch)
Quichey waves!

Oh sparkly - don't you worry, Jack too is definitely "challenging" and if you remember, back in the earlier days, I posted about finding the boredom and reptition quite hard to take. And yes, bf can be a chore. One thing that everyone says is that you do produce enough milk as it's the whole clever supply and demand thing. Will be interesting to hear what the HV has to say. I'm going to take Jack into the docs for a weigh and measure this week - it's not routine here but I'm keen to know that he is progressing as he should be. this is a good link for any time you're fed up of bfing - makes you remember why you do it!

Funny that you think of me as together - there are many times when I'm not, trust me! We did however have a lovely weekend - lots of time cooing over Jack together and marvelling at his small achievements and we even managed some sexy time! Embarassingly that is only the 2nd time since junior arrived - hopefully our record will improve!

Hello to the rest of you - molten chocolate cake all round x

That's a brilliant link thank you wombat. Interesting that it puts 6-8 weeks as being when the fussy period peeks, as we have a fussy madam here this week. It's boredom most of the time I believe, sometimes I just put her in her pram and it's like she knows this means she is getting out the house and instantly settles. It is going so quickly and she doesn't feel newborn anymore already. I am lapping up every moment, even the grizzles as I know they soon get over it and become such fun. Also as this is definately our last baby.
Congratulations on sexy time twice! Thats 2 times more than I have managed! I have body issues, and feel so fat and unattractive that I can't bring myself to go there. Poor DH

Ah it wasn't because of what you said that I sent it back sparkly although it did cross my mind that you could actually work for them!
It wasn't sitting right with me and I'm a believer in karma, as it was we got something for nothing anyway as the policy is paid for by DH's work so keeping the overpayment would have been greedy.
I have become such a miser since i've been off work. I am living on ebay and have kitted her out in the most gorgeous second hand outfits for hardly any money. I never would have bought secondhand for older DCs and we had alot less money then too. Anything that has sat still for longer than 6 months is being flogged too and I'm off to sell the family gold today! Its all part of my plan to not go back to work and prove to DH that we can easily manage if I don't. How long are you having off sparkly and yellow?
How did it go with the health visitor? I hope she was able to alay your fears about your milk not being enough, like I said before my DCs were all over the centiles and they were fed formula in robotic fashion.
Meg has decided she doesn't like bottles......only straight from the tap! so I guess I will be keeping up the BFing!

Glad to hear all is going well with you guys yellow and how happy you and DH are. Just thinking about how doubtful you were this time last year about ever being able to realise your dream of motherhood makes me all warm and fuzzy now that you are out the other side.

Here are some crudites and homous..........

Thanks Worm, feel like I am being weaned
Just waiting for the late HV, we have had to have a hurried change of clothes thanks to a rare vomiting episode, typical! So my carefully chosen 'impress the HV with how together we are' outfit is now languishing in the washing basket, and Gabes is wearing a random, slightly too small mishmash of cosy fleece and granny knitted cardie.
He was fussing again last night, pulling off the breast and then thrashing around in a panic. DH gave him 3oz of expressed milk which he downed in no time, and was then a lot more settled, so think it's a supply issue in the evenings. Will aim to stay hydrated, and buy some fennel tea.
Will look at the link later, thanks Wombat. Is Jack settled in his room? How many times do you go in to check and prod him?
We have had sexy time 3 times, nah! Out of condoms now though, plus finding a decent window of opportunity is getting harder. DH seems ok, we are open about discussing it, and once a fortnight seems sufficient for both of us for now. I have a wobbly belly but always have done, and I don't think he notices anyway.
Right, time!

Wow - can I please borrow your magic pram worm?! Something like that would work wonders with Jack - he grizzles quite often when he's not with someone. HE can play on his own for about 10 mins but generally not longer - is this in the realm of normal? Can't believe how old Megs is already!

Why do they know exactly when to vomit sparkly?! I'm sure the HV has seen the most untogether peeps! Hope the HV went well and she was able to allay your anxieties. We didn't make the weigh and measure today as he was sparko after being awake for ages and I didn't want to disturb him. Trying again tomorrow.... Is it fennel tea that's supposed to be good for bfeeding? I had it in my head it was fenugreek which may explain why I haven't been able to find any in the shops! How do you rate bfeeding versus f feeding worm? I guess it helps with your budgeting! V impressed with your thriftiness - let's hope DH agrees with you.

Ha - you know me well sparkly! I have been in to check he's still breathing a couple of times each night. He does seem to be quite happy there and we were only up 3 times again last night as opposed to the usual 4 - please keep your fingers crossed for me!

Now ladies, we only have 14 posts left on this thread!! There is no way I'm going to lose contact with you [stalker emoticon] so we really need wellie to step up and start us a new thread so she gets her bfp - are you out there m'dear?!

Big waves to kool and yellow xx

I thought it was cake or chocolate that was good for breastfeeding.
I am loving it. When I had the DC's I did everything by the book and I mean that very literally. The book said feed 4 oz every 4 hours so that is what I did.... not a minute earlier or later!! Poor DD . I was worried her head would start spinning or something if I deviated (sp) from the routine! The boob is great.
Hungry give the boob
Tired give the boob
Bored give the boob
Sore tummy give the boob
Not sure yet about how to get her off it, but I guess I will cross that bridge when I come to it.
The only downside for me so far is that she now won't take a bottle. She totally refuses all the teats I have as well as every dummy I have tried [bad mummy emocion] which means I am tied to her. I guess I did have another baby to feel needed again and certainly do that now

I hope wellie you do decide to stay with us. Maybe we should find a new home rather than conception? Off the beaten track maybe? Then it doesn't all need to be focused on babies? I hope you are well.

Thread title suggestions :-
Bugger off we are mini chicken pie?
our wit sparkly could come up with a funnier one.

Here is some carrot cake and fenugreek tea (is that as vomitous as it sounds)?

Hello ladies

I've just been reading through the last few posts and it's lovely to have all you wise ladies up the road ahead of me......

I have calmed down a bit now and feel a little less like Mary Poppins on drugs still very happy and enjoying Scarlett but slightly more tuned into reality. Had the HV today, she seemed wise and gave loads of info and stuff but smelt looked like a bag lady. We're on the 4th floor I thought she was going to have a cardiac arrest by the time she got to our flat.

After an angelic first week when Scarlett fed and slept like an angel I think she's woken up a bit now. She now keeps wanting to feed at random intervals but often just for a minute which I've read from you wise ladies is just for comfort. She also now won't sleep unless we are holding her or lying next to her with our arm/hand on her. Cos of my cot bed i'm able to fall asleep like that but it probably isn't the most practical or sustainable situation! I'm not sure if I should be going along with it but there doesn't seem to be any other option except hysterical screaming and I really can't stand to hear her cry even for a minute. Last night DP had the first shift from midnight but by 1.30 he hadn't been able to settle her and so had got up and put her in the buggy and was just staring at her screaming hysterically hoping she'd calm down. So I got up and cuddled her and then put her down, immediate cries, fed her 1 min, cuddled 15 mins, put her down, immediate cries.....repeated once more and this time she settled with my arm resting across her body and hand on head. We both fell asleep and obviously my arm slipped off but we managed 4 1/2 hours before waking again. I think it's safe enough as she is actually in her own cot......any thoughts/ideas? Is this normal?

The HV told me fennel tea is good as it calms their stomach or something but I shouldn't drink caffeine or orange juice.

Bf is going well, I'm enjoying it and she has a good latch but she does sometimes do that disgusted face when she doesn't want any more which is quite comical. And a kind of beavis and butthead snigger previously referenced by sparkly.

We've been out for a short walk every day and also been to lunch at a cafe and italian restaurant so feeling good about that. On the downside DP is back to work on Monday and after my CS I cannot manage the stairs carrying Scarlett so unless someone comes over I'll be housebound. My Mum is keen to come over but I have to work out a balance between how much that will help or drive me more crazy. Also he'll be sleeping in the spare room so I'll have to do nights and days. At the moment in the night I mainly just feed and he does other comforting/nappies etc. So i am feeling a bit nervous about how I'll cope.

MW is coming again tomorrow for another weigh (I think) so hopefully that will be good and we're off to register the birth Thurs. As we are not married we have to both go for DP to be the father on the birth certificate. So it'll be the first big adventure on a train etc....see how that goes!

I'm happy to go off the beaten track or wherever, we prob shouldn't stay in conception unless Wellie wants us to because we are a little past that now.

Well done on your sexy time wombat and sparkly the HV today asked me about contraception and my parents were here. I wanted to say abstinence!

how did it go with the HV sparkly? What advice?

I'm going back to work in September which will be about 7 1/2 months off altogether but i'm only going back 4 days a week. Seems a long way off now but I'm sure it'll fly by.

I've found that I am also totally paranoid about her stopping breathing. We have a tiny flat but have an angel care monitor which detects breathing and movement which reassures me a lot. I love it. monitor

must go my angel is screaming her head off so gonna try the boob again!

Is it normal? Well............ they are all different but generally they do love being near you pretty much all the time at this stage. After all you have been cuddling them for 9 months. I am finding now at night that M knows I am there next to her but she does settle quicker if I lay my hand on her . I am trying to move away from putting her in her bed asleep now . So after bath and boob I now put all the lights low and lay her in her basket which is right next to my bed and at the same level. I then lay next to her while reading mn and bidding on ebay until she goes to sleep. She grizzles a bit rather than cries and I keep peering over and whispering to her until she eventually settles. She is now regulary having a nice 5 hour stint of sleep after this. If she does start proper crying I do get her out again and offer more boob. There is a big difference though between a 7 weeker and a 2 weeker.
In time you will learn when Scarlett is actually crying rather than what I call shouting. M shouts alot during the day. I can zone it out a bit, and when she wants to do this I put her in the sling on me while I potter about and let her get on with it, rather than obsess over jigging her about. It is usually just overtiredness causing it. Other tips are putting them in a chair next to the running washing machine or putting the hairdryer/hoover on. They like the noises. Remember crying is the only way they can communicate and doesnt always mean there is something wrong. My DD12 used to scream/shout all the time and it hasn't done her any long term damage.

A good way to tell if they are crying out in pain with wind for example is to look out for them drawing their knees up I find putting her on her tummy across my knee and masaging her back a bit sometimes works it through.

M is not as settled during the day and we end up boobing alot of the time and going for walks in the pram. She screamed blue murder on tuesday when I tried to do the supermarket shop. I ended up abandoning the trolley and boobing in the car before returning . More screaming ensued and I had to continue shopping to glares from old ladies as there were no washing machines or hoovers I could put on to settle her!

Glad to hear breastfeeding is going well, are you still getting the 10 second toe curler when she first attatches? It was about 2 and a half weeks for me until that stopped thank the lord and lanisoh.

Re being housebound next week, if you could get a sling would you be able to manage the stairs? I know carrying a pram is out of the question but that would allow you to get out and about a bit? Even if it just for a little walk around your local area. I ended up driving at 2 and a half weeks against medical advise as the cabin fever was getting to me.

I had the health visitor yesterday for her 6 week check, I asked for advise as I have been getting lumpy boobs because I lose track of what boob we used last time, she gave me a good tip.... moving a hairband/bracelet from one wrist to the other to remind you which one you need to use. So simple!
One of the ladies on the january board has been hospitalized with mastitis, it sounds horrific what she has been through so I am very keen to avoid that.

I will leave out pancakes ,nutella and ice cream as I forgot to yesterday.

Hello ladies!

Yes I am still here, and unfortunately still TTC! However, I agree that conception is prob not the best place for us now, and if you are happy that I stay with you and start the new thread, then where do you think we should go?
Today is CD1 of cycle 14 :( but tbh we had a bit of a break for a few months as it was all just getting too much and this was our first month of proper trying again....so we'll just have to wait and see...but I want to stay chatting with you lovely ladies and I am perfectly happy to do it away from the "I slipped on a banana skin and had sex once in the last year, could I be pg?" which you can find on conception....

Just let me know what the plan is and I'll set something up...xx

Thanks for all the info/advice worm'very helpful and reassuring. I really haven't had contact with babies before so don't really know. Bf hasn't really hurt at all, I get sore boobs occasionally if she doesn't feed enough and they get hard, good tip re knowing which side but I can usually tell which is v hard.

Great to hear from you wellie glad you can do a new thread for us. Hopefully that will do the trick for you. I think 'off the beaten track' would be a good spot for us to continue our chatting.

Need to go as Scarlett is getting hungry

And the breakfast and baby club has now moved to OTBT here

Please join me for croissants and coffee (or should that be camomile tea for you mummies?!) over in our new home - serving up now with lashings of jam and cream....pull up a pew, I've purchased us some new comfy couches where we can chat to our hearts content - see you there....