Feisty Fabulous Forty somethings - part 3

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As you were ladies

Good luck Italian with your work thing. X
gum even though it's easy for me to say please don t worry however you feel will make no difference tonthe outcome. Of course you know this so not to patronise but my attitude was / is for today I am pregnant and if it all goes " tits up" I ll have to deal with it then. I ve come the the worst situation ever so ad horrible as the thought is we ll deal with
Whatever whenever. Not long to your scan , it ll be here before you know it!!
hippy hope there's plenty of swi ongoing. New House new baby x
BB hope alls on schedule for your move also.
Hi Diege hope you re ok?
Hi LOL watched your link. Our very own tv star in our midst!!! I vaguely remember your ex , I think, how are you doing?
Hi shandy
Hi Curly
Hi panache
hi anyone I ve missed. Awake at stupid ' o clock as this bloody cough is driving me mad!!!! Ant off on his " misters holidays" for 3 days to Benidorm. I will miss him very much and do worry about the fact he ll be highly intoxicated for the next 3 days!!!. My mum and sister coming up later ad I ve taken AL for the next 3 days so got nice stuff lined up for us such as a manicure party etc..,.work hectic yesterday.
GBOS fine not felt any movement yet lazy bugger!!!!
Off to sleep again this is no good!!!!
Love to all xxxxxxx

Thanks so much for the reassurance. It really does help

Turns out I've had the soapy/metallic taste in my mouth all day. Yippee!

Charlie asleep, so will take this opportunity to sit by the fire with knitting and Gavin and Stacey. Lovely!

gum I think it is hard after a loss to think of anything else. Not long now until the scan, I know it's so easy for us to say just relax etc and if I ever get preg again I'll be feeling just like you but as Lou says - today you are pregnant - if that keeps happening for enough days - you get a baby - whoop whoop

lol you look lovely in the vid. I don't remember your hubbie but am very glad you let us have a peak at him and you. Alas I do not have a link to you tube where a very glamerous me and my hubbie are presenting a tv programme Did your AF turn up yet?

nicole any news from you. AF arrived/not arrived???

italian you keep your end to yourself, mrs! Good luck with the work thing.

My temp was nice and high this morning so I am happy that I've ov'd for definite. Last lot of troops were dispatched last night - so that's it - just gotta wait and see if the tabs work.

I am feeling very lucky today. I've been in touch with an old friend. She didn't have any kids, basically they tried for a while and her hubbie was very negative about being tested. Eventually they went to the docs and found that HE was the problem. They had IVF with ICSY (sp?) but it did not work. He then went on to die in his early 50s. Hence she is now about 50 and has no hubbie and no kids. I was telling her about how we were moving to our dream location - I felt like I'd won the lottery, havign a hubbie and 2 lovely boys when she has been left with nothing. It really made me think about how lucky I am. I hope she goes on to meet someone new and maybe even gets step kids but for the moment she says her work is what keeps her going how shit is that!

Anyway, just a little reality check for me. I am a lucky lucky Hippy!

hi Italian appointment at the clinic is on the 14th am alternately dreading it wondering what it might show and looking forward to it lol

gum glad to hear the pregnancy is getting stronger - it was my birthday yesterday and I spent a lot of it in tears sparked off by a lady that's just returned to work and was rabbiting on about her birth and the baby and how 'if she'd known how much work it would be having 2 she wouldn't have bothered'

I could have knocked her out! I'm starting to lose all hope wondering what's wrong with me (other than my now advanced age of 43)

tina - so sorry you spent your birthday feeling sad. What a horrid bitch at your work. SHe really ought to think before she opens her big fat gob!

Tina happy belated birthday. Sorry you had to listen to " whingy" woman. I know exactly what you mean . In April we went to a 40th birthday meal with Ants friends and wives they all have kids , 1 of the women got pissed was loud and was whinging on about how " hard" bath time is with her 2 kids and how she hated it etc...... . I got so pissed off with her I had robots my Tongue from grabbing her and shouting in her face " FFS do you not realise how lucky you are and look at who you re talking to. Open your eyes" Instead I ignored her. Wouldn t want to see her again. People are incredibly self centred and selfish. Hope you feel a bit better today xxxx

Hippy what you sat us very true . At work I ve seen/ cared for some patients who have experienced truly awful stuff that makes me realise how lucky I am in many different ways. Patients who have been raped or abused, homeless patients and all the hassle that goes with that. Indeed , we all need a wake up call like that sometimes.

Gum glad you feel a bit better x

Excuse mistakes !!! Bloody phone !!! " robots" what's that about????

Oh Hippy that poor woman. That truly is shit. And I'm sorry for everyone else who has had to sit through crass crap at dinner parties. We can all forget where we are and what we're saying - it's good to be reminded from time to time. Was it Thumper's mother who said, 'if you can't say something nice, don't say nothin' at all?' Disney. So profound.

YEAH - AF arrived this morning. Phew. Hippy your tea leaves were correct. Delayed ov (in desperation, hoping that he'd change his mind) and stress combo = 5 days late. Big deal. I'm never going to moan again. Until tomorrow.

Tina happy belated birthday, have a glass of wine .

How annoying about that lady at work! My friend has three kids (my ideal number) and keeps moaning about how much work three is! I know they were planned so it does upset me a lot!

AngelGeorgie what should the word 'robots' have been??

Work thing was good. I shared a bit of stuff. I said how good it was to be real with people and share our weaknesses, I've had enough of them! OCD/Overeating/anxiety/Infertility/IBS! But I know many more who have had much worse! A friend of mine lost her little boy when he was five, she knew he would probably not live very long and he lived longer than expected but still, he died, and it was heart breaking. Only really reading Tanks blog has helped me understand what she has been through, my other friend and Tank, and made me realise that sometimes we need to tune into others sufferings a bit and understand instead of being in a bubble! For me in my work and in my personal life I think being honest about our weaknesses is a good way to start but ONLY when we are ready. It has taken me a long time to admit I had OCD as a teen and I've got eating problems etc! It's actually very liberating BUT I know not everyone can say how they feel all the time. We are all different and sometimes (especially for self preservation) we need to keep some of it inside us. Sorry, getting heavy.

Hugs to all

Aww thanks Italian - that's nice to hear...

Insensitive folk - I could do it as a Mastermind Specialist Topic - folks are always moaning about their kids to me - worst still their sick (i.e. minor bugs and colds) to me.... I don't think people mean much by it - they just forget permanent griefs (like dead children and infertilty) and focus on their own day to day worries... selfish sods...

LOL you're way too gorgeous for that bloke who dumped you... your ex-DH sounds (and looks ) quite nice. We don't watch telly, so I have no idea who he is. Any chance of getting back with him instead?

Gum Hang in there sweetie... Focus on the bits you can enjoy and be gentle with yourself. It's probably unrealsitic to expect to enjoy this pg till you feel about safer - but the most likely outcome is a healthy baby -do focus on that. By the way, love Charlie's yellow trews...

What I really popped by to say thought was....

Hippy I hate to be prescriptive, but I reckon you ought to SWI tonight - one for the road and all that.. I think the mistake we were making in the beginning was to not keep going long enuf. Oh go on - one more won't hurt xx

Hello! Back from Whitby - pretty good though very cold apart from our last few days that were red hot
Have had a skim read through - so sorry fireflies had been thinking about you when we were away.
Hippy sounds like you're in the thick of it SWI-wise - how are you feeling on the clomid?
Gum echo what others have said about anxieties and worries. I think as long as you accept that it's normal to feel as you do, that's the best you can really hope for at this stage, but this stage will soon move to another so isn't forever xx
lol I am in awe of you and your television fame The best I have ever done is clog dancing with Harry Seacome and Rolf Harris on 'Highway' as a teen I do remember your x dh!!
I know I have missed lots but I will pick up over the next few days! All fine here - baby wriggling, though very low which feels odd. NOt long till 20 weeks scan, pretty nervous!
Love to all and good to be back x

Can't stop laughing at Diege's post. Clog dancing with Harry Seacombe and Rolf Harris? Laughing so hard I'm having to do kegel exercises.

So excited, though, to hear you can feel the baby. Oh, I love that feeling! Well done - sounds like it's all going fantastically well.

Ex dh2 (on vid) won't be asked back, no. He is very very sorry for messing me around for 14 years and is now with very lovely new lady who's considering having a frontal lobotomy for the same reasons I did, before I realised a divorce would be less painful.

Ex dh1 (oh yes) is also very very sory for being a complete TIT and giving me £40 a week for food and clothes for 8 years while he hoarded the rest in case it was needed for a rainy day. He's now living with his mother so he can save even more money. Enough said.

I do pick 'em. I've been going on this dating website to look at who's out there. Just to see - not to go out with. And I tell you, it's no wonder they're single. They all take photos of themselves on their own cameras in the mirror so you can see the hideous flats they live in. And most of them take pictures of themselves topless. EEuuuch.

Oh Lol, that does sound bloody grim! You are gorgeous though, so I'm sure someone lovely will find you.

Deige your claim to fame is hilarious. Is there such a thing as "clog dancing"? Why oh why is it not on You tube????

Thanks everyone for the lovely reassuring thoughts. I know it is just one day at a time, but I didn't anticipate it being quite this difficult. I am busying myself with a whole lot of sewing. The yellow trousers (for Charlie - I'd look silly in them)as Tank mentioned, and I'm being very optimistic and planning my maternity sewing. Haven't actually cut anything out, but reckon I will soon, because most of the designs are wearable as flowy tops with or without baby belly (besides I permanently look 5 months pregnant). I now wish I'd done some abdominal work after each baby, but alas....

Doesn't matter anyway, Hippy, you are so right to remind me of how lucky I am. It is so sad to hear of your friend, alone at 50, with her work to keep her going. I have a friend who is also 44, and after several bad relationships has come to a point in her life where she'd like children. She's talked about it for years. I wish she had just gone and done it with donor sperm years ago, because she won't do it now.She thinks she is too old. I'm sad she won't get to experience the joy of having children, but I know she is a wonderful aunt who spends loads of time with her sibling's children.

Tank, you know I think your advice on going one more time (for Hippy) is sound advice. I think I've worked out that I conceive when we have SWI on the day of O. All the advice says it is too late by then, but I think that's how it works for me, judging on the charting I did for the last 3 pregnancies.

Deige and Lou, I can't believe you are almost half way through. It seems to have gone so fast, but I know it hasn't for you, has it? What date is your scan? Mine is 15th June at 3.30 pm. That's going to be a long day!

lol I love the clip. You look fab. How fun to be on TV, do tell, do you still do it?

lol love the clip! I think your ex dh2 looks quite dishy. Pity he was a knob!

I had a scan yesterday and saw my expensive dr - they think I ov'ed a couple of days ago, which matches the temperature rise I've had. No peak on monitor though. It was interesting actually - she said that the only reason I haven't conceived is my old eggs as I have alot of eggs and everything else looks fine too. Apparently such a dramatic decrease in fertility at 40 isn't at all unusual. I thought it would be more gradual. she also said that she has all of her patients taking progesterone after ovulation because it doesn't harm. so I started today - double dosage! (hippy is it worth you popping into see your lovely helpful dr to get a prescription?)

gum I dtd on the day of ov this time too - so fingers crossed! I'm not sure I've managed that for a good few months, as I normally get too stressed when I see the peak on the monitor.
tina happy birthday, sorry you were feeling low. I had my birthday a couple of weeks ago too. It wasn't my best day of the year - I just remember how I was still in this boat last year too.

Hello to everyone else. feeling very positive today (beginning of 2ww of course I always feel like this) - we have 3 school places, dh has a job offer and it's lovely and sunny!

Morning! Not such a sunny one here - absolutely throwing it down. Working from home though, so not so bad although I have 5 charges to look after at the same time, with dd2's best friend over for the day. Hope the conference call-ees don't suss
Well you may laugh about me Harry and Rolf, but we (the 'troop') were on for a whole 3.5 mins, and they all photographed us for a postcard (sans Rolf (who was lovely) and Harry (less so) . I don't know if I've mentioned that I'm Welsh? (welsh-speaking too) and clog dancing part and parcel of the whole Eisteddfod thing in Wales that most school children enter (though only a small minority do the clog dancing) A massive festival of singing, dancing, acting, crafts, poetry etc etc that I really miss (they still televise it on S4C every summer).
Gum that's interesting about conceiving on day of ovulation, as that's exactly how I conceived this one and ds. IN fact we only swi twice this time, 4 days before ov and on the actual day, and I'm pretty sure it worked on the latter try.
BB does sound hopeful that there's no obvious reason (other than ageing eggs, as we all have) that's stopping you. It sounds like you are geting good medical advice there. Am I right it's not the NHS giving it?
Lol also very intrigued about your television past (in a non-stalker way). Have you kept your hand in so to speak?
So we have Gum's scan on the 15th, mine is on the 20th June, think Lou's around same time?

Diegemines on the 16th June so not long!!! Hi to all xxx

Hi all. I've had a lovely half hour catching up with all your fab posts.

We have a star in our midst lol and your ex dh. Your students must be very impressed. Thank you for showing the link and what a shame diege yours wasn't recorded, what a great opportunity.

I am Welsh too but never did much of the Eisteddfod scene. I did do a quiz show for kids in primary school which I would love to see again as my memory is very poor and I can't imagine now having the confidence for it.

I've been having a really low week since dh came back off hols. I think I was keeping it all in the week of my mmc treatment when he was away. I did struggle in to work and wonder why I put myself under such pressure, but it's such a hard thing to explain to others. I've only told my manager, close family and friends and it's very difficult to carry on with others who are none the wiser but I can't bring myself to tell all. I do wish that others talked of mc more as it would make it easier. I know loads who say oh yes it's so common and so and so has had two etc but you rarely know in a present personal tense.

Anyway having been very low and dh getting a lot of flack I today feel a bit better. We had our first swi last night, not much intent, but it was nice to get back to a more carefree happy place.

Now I'm thinking, forget carefree, help I'm fast approaching 41 and I need more help. I've done charting and ov sticks. What is the monitor thing? The temps I had didn't really help. Also when I did get pg last it was the first day I'd spotted ewcm ever, so maybe that is a problem, and also we had swi every other day rather than every day at the peak time to see whether that helped?? Any thoughts please?

By the way gum please have faith but also from talking to others post mc it is always going to taint the excitement of any subsequent pg, so try and accept your feelings of gloom as part of a normal pg for you and not be too hard on yourself.

shandy it's still early days - you are bound to feel shit. Do not despair - 41 sounds positively young to me

lol I have always said that if I were single I'd do speed dating. I did a few blind dates in my youth and I pretty much knew within the first 2 seconds if I fancied them or not (usually NOT). Go on - give it a go, what can go wrong???

gum I found it best to try to be positive but to guard my heart a little and not plan ahead at all. However you choose to get through the next few weeks is, of course, your choice - I hope it doesn't go too slowly.

diege a welsh bird - huh! Now have visions of you clog dancing all around the snug!

TT you bossy thing - I think i did SWI on ov day and the day after, so hopefully I'll be ok - you sound like my DH - "We should do it today, honest, Hippy!" You must be only 4 weeks from D-Day now - how exciting

Nothing to report here. Nice high temps (have been temping this month cos of the clomid) and tingly boobs but then again we all know about my boobs, they'd react to any old progesterone!

Take care all. XXX

Morning . Shandy, agree with Hippy that it is relatively early days, so please don't feel too despondent. You are def on the young side of 40 (I've just turned 41 so pretty similar? - ok, you're younger ).
Hippy very excited for you and this clomid business - it does sound like it's doing what it's supposed to! High temsp are excellent
Having a bit of a nightmare here trying to book a reasonably priced family room by Hyde park for July. Have booked yet another but just read some awful reviews...only for one night with 3 dds though so not the end of the world if things aren't great! Def not going for the breakfasts (£15 per person - £60 for a bf for 4!!!).
Right, better focus on my charges!

I just had a really weird pain - it shot right up my bits and on the right hand side of my tummy at the same time. It took my breath away. Too high to be ovaries but didn't stop me thinking oh God ovarian cysts!!!!

I guess we just over analys everything when were on the drugs. ....

yeah man, drugs can mess with your head . May be something conception-related perhaps?

I was just getting up from drying my hair so I must have caught a nerve or something.

Be nice if it was something conception related but a bit early TBH.

Hello everyone, sorry haven't got time to name check. dd is 16 on sunday and bbq party tmrw and new house = busy Fee.

I'm a bit fed up, day 26 some symptoms but just started pinkish spotting like when I had mc so not sure. Met a lovely lady today who has 3 month baby and is 41 and she said midwife said to her week before her baby was born the ward was full of mums over 40 !!! And one lady was 46 having her first !! So I thought it might bring us all a smile.

Love to all xxxx

Catch up next week, enjoy your weekends.

Happy Birthday sweet 16 to little panashe

Good news about all the 40+ mums. Sorry you think it's not your month panashe.

The shooting pains that I'm getting are mainly up my girly bits after I've done a wee so I'm thinking urine infection. Have been out and bought 2 big things of cranberry juice and am drinking it like a loon!