Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings

[galwaygal]

This is a continuation of the "More ongoing and continuing conceptions and follicling ahead of Feisty, Fabulous Forty somethings"

I thought I would keep the title short as there are so many long ones out there.

I thought I would start the new thread so that you don't forget me

Louise you sound very well-adjusted and sensible, you sound like you know your own mind and you are taking care of yourself. I am so pleased that you are making time for things that will be healthy and fun (like swimming). I feel sure you will get through this time and you will always be the person that Georgie has made you. You will (I think) be more aware and compassionate because of her influence on you. From the inside out she has had that impact on your life. I am sorry if that sounds trite and if it does not resonate with you then let it go like dust.

With all best wishes on this rainy wet day.

Thanks Italian your words are lovely ....hope everyones had a nice day ?

You re quite right Georgie had influenced many people and changed me in a way. I think what happened with Georgie puts everything in perspective none of our material possessions matter any more petty crap doesn t matter anymore. Minor disputes , office politics doesn t matter any more. God bless little Georgie xxxx

Here here Louise . Hope your day was ok. I too like the idea of 'our Georgie' (iyswim) - I feel like I already know her from your posts (hope that doesn't sound too odd).
Italian what a lovely post. How are things with you?
Jollster switi, well no point as far as I see it, so curl up in front of the x-factor instead and watch your man Wagner Apparently he has been evicted from the house for lewd behaviour (offical reason being he needs to concentrate on his voice - can't argue with that
Love to all x

ok diege am happy to listen to your advice . Bored of SWI (terrible thing to say but I AM).

Look this Wagner thing is getting out of hand.... :) .

Jolly The switi theory is that the egg is more likely to implant if there is sperm present. But the research is a bit dodgy, and mostly about rats, and mostly geared at thinking about whether people with IVF should carry on shagging or knit scarfs from inside their slankets.

It sort of appeals to me in that it kind of makes sense that it makes more sense for a pg to get going where the bloke is still obviously around.

We did SWITI when I got pg - but obviously that means shag all... sorry shag all.. boom boom

As an aside, and whilst thinking about mad sympton spotting - I remember comign home one day a while ago, and thinking OMG I feel sick. I am never sick - then I actually threw up. IMmediately afterwards, I was ok. So it wasn't a bug or food poisoining. I remember thinking, well it can't be pg, because it's too early to be pg... But now, I'm wondering if it was an implantation sympton?

Is that a crazy though - when I got pg perviously, I had a really strong dizzy turn/nausea in the Cancer Shop - and I didn't throw up, but I recovered from it, - and just felt strongly I was pg and carrying a girl. Turned round and said it to my DH, who thought I was mad - but I was.

Anyway, I am (physically) fine - emotionally struggling - this bench is bloody hard by the way. We need to buy some cushions. Apologies for the low profile - but I have been lurking to check how everyone is doing.

gum spotty fingers crossed ladies.

diege glad you seem to be getting through the week.

Hippy symptons?

Jolls I don't think switi is that important either, but it can't hurt xx

Louise Just keep breathing sweetheart. It does get better xx

IG You are looking more glamourous by the day.

GG when are you going to update these stats

Did I leave anyone out - bet I did. Stupid prego head xx

Mwah, Mwah....

Yes, Tank, the bench is hard. It is going so interminably slowly! I just don't feel I can celebrate until 12 weeks
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However I'm pleased to be feeling like crap. I have insomnia (which I never normally have) and am wide awake at 4.30 a.m. So I drag myself around all day feeling so fatigued. I keep telling the kids it's because I get up so early, but it is compounded by the pregnancy and nausea and I can't tell them that.

The tww is awful, but the 8 week wait is a bit worse TBH. I was foolish enough to check out miscarriage statistics for 44 year olds on google. What an idiot I am.It hasn't put my mind to rest. On the other hand, there's nothing more I can do, so I should just relax and enjoy my little secret...

Hippy, when will you POAS? You are so good to wait. How many dpo are you now?

Is anyone else gearing up for testing?

I got that book "Inconceivable" by Julia Indichova the other day. It is a good read and has a lovely happy ending.

Thanks Diege you re more than welcome to share my Georgie XXX

hI tank hope you re well?? again, thanks for your kind words.

Had a nice day been to the gym again, awimming then out for a meal with parents.Lovely .

Hope all are well XX

hello all
as an aside from christmas cake baking - caustic soda ing floor tiles and painting ds one bedroom i am now inserting large coloured bulbs in humungous outdoor lights which will NOT adorn my house until mid december but i like to plan - they look good - big bulbs blue green red yellow orange (need white) old fashioned and lovely. Children will gaze!

Ah !!!! Feeling better as mc appears to be almost over - tests have started fading which makes me feel huge relief.

to the future

I cannot name check as too tired - suffice to say hello all 'snuggle in sweetie its cold out there' ( a line from one of the greatest films of all time - any guesses?)

Tank fear not - the bench cushion is complete. It's in a blue/grey with cream piping - velvet dontcha know and it was 40 quid a metre so don't moan. I know it looks a bit formal now but a couple of weeks with a few nice weighty women's bums on it it will age beautifully and become loved and homely. Just like us!!

Have a lovely sunday all x

40somemum Edward Scissorhands?

Thanks for the cushion - should be a bit easier on the piles (tmi)

Hi everyone. Sorry to report a big fat negative yesterday followed by some spotting and AF today. Boo hiss. I am aware that worse things happen at sea but of course I'm now full of negative thoughts and all kinda - it's too late, it's never gonna happen again, why am i bothering? etc etc.

i know - yawn yawn. i wont even bother moaning about it all cos I KNOW that in about 9 days i will get EWCM and the whole thing will perk up.

What does annoy me is the fact that i feel preggo every bloody month. My boobs really do like the old progesterone and they fool me sooo easily. Next time I'm on the 2WW and i mention my boobs tingling - somebody SLAP me - please???

louise I too have grown very fond of 'our' Georgie. You did your absolute best for her sweetie. The loss that you have suffered is so hard for most of us to even imagine and we want so much to say something, anything that will make you feel just a tiny bit better. But ther isn't much we can actually say. i hope that wherever Georgie is right now, she's waiting for you and she knows how very much you and your hubbie love her. i like to imagine her playing with a little girl (who is nearly 4 and wearing a beautiful party dress.)

louise and tank Your strength is amazing and i send you both hugs.

italian you wrote some lovely words for Louise.

To all on the bench - enjoy the new cushion and sit tight - I am trying to join you all honest.

BB Any news from you.

diege we should try to get synchronised this month and have another shag-fest. I seem to have a fairly decent LP now (which is one good thing).

gum what were the odds for a 44 year old? (do I wanna know?) Actually, as you say there is no point in looking it up. Odds are just numbers and we are people not statistics.

jolls I forgot to say. Switi came about a while back when someone red up on it all. i do agree that if we are going to go all cave man and look at things from a nature point of view then the presence of sperm might convince the embryo that 'daddy' is gonna hang around. BUT, I did Switi this time and it made bugger all difference.

When GG does the list please put me on CD1 and wearing big baggy pants. Ta

40some glad to hear that it's nearly all over for you. good luck for next time. You sound like a busy-bee.

muchlove How are you my dear?

porth I hope you settle in here soon.

hippy is the 4 year old your daughter ? ( if you don t mind me asking ) . Again , your words are beautiful I know nobody can say anything to " make things better " but the sentiment conveyed through your words is just lovely.

You are all soo nice ( Louise sat here looking stupid with a big gooey smile on my face !!!!)

Soo sorry for your bfn it really is very dishearting Isn t it ?

Sometimes I wonder how we have the strength to keep going ????

Hi to everyone hope all are well ? Off to the gym to kill some time. Happy 6 th week anniversary Georgie xxxx

No louise she's not mine.

She is the beautiful daughter of someone who used to be on this thread a while back. She very sadly died earlier this year and again we were all so so sorry for the mum and wanting to say something to express how we felt and once again stumbling around looking for the right words.

Suffice to say that we are here and we are listening. XXX

Arh.... I see. Well I hope that lovely little girl is looking over my gorgeous georgie. Xx

oh hippy sorry about the BFN. Arsicles.
And you made me cry, and I don't mean about your BFN (sad though that is...).

Hi to everyone. Hope the cushion is helping the "Farmers". x

Hippy you made me cry too...

Kiwi lovely news, congratulations!

And here's to Diege and Hippy both joining the growing throng on the bench as bump buddies next month. Sorry about the bfn, your Xmas bfp will be great though.

Big hug for Louise

Hey there just checking in with you all -

Not much to report really - I started taking Agnus Castus this month not really to regulate me but read that it can maybe help with fibroids (of which I have 2 small ones) and thought that it might also give my fertility a bit of a boost. Was a bit worried it would send my OV awol but it came on time thank god but not sure if OV on day 11 produces a mature enough egg ???
I am OV day 11 / 12 now where it use to be 13/14 anybody any ideas or knowledge in this area ..... Well i am gonna stop taking the Agnus now as I read you should only take up to OV (some do take all cycle especially those with a LP defect as it is suppose to regulate that and make it longer)
All seems to be OK in the sperm making dept ie Hubby has got his arse in gear and is performing on cue, I think our problem was he was seeing right thru the vest and shorts stage and feeling a bit used.... twerp of course he's being used .....DUM DUM give me GUM GUM (from Night In The Museum) .... Now how to arrange a little argument to see me thru Slanket stage mwahaha mwahaha.....

Oh anyway I not been about much as Im having renovations done at home and its been bloody chaotic here... so I may take next month off as ther will be decorators here and im gonna be really busy...but I will still be checking in and reading your posts x

LOUISE I read your posts with a heavy heart and feel so sad for you I guess everything you have to go through is a process and sometimes you are gonna get knocked down again (i wish you didnt have to be going thru any of this) but I guess just being here in this group is a small step forward for you ..... Your Georgie girl will send you another bubba .... and while you wait we are here for you...when your low and when your up and don't forget you have still got a lot of hormones floating around trying to sort themselves out again x

Hippy Sorry bout the BFN honey I know it's flippin disheartening when you cover all the bases and then get a -tive.... grrhhh....

How are you DIEGE gradually getting yourself together I hope x

Hey to JollsandItalian ,40SOMEMUM,CURLY BB and the lovely GG (glad you are staying around I would have missed you and of course your cakes) xx

Sending tons of luck and love to all those little bubbas baking away on the bench there hope you girls are ok (TANK...GUM...SPOTTY...)

Oh yeah and for roll call ;

Muchlove CD 12 and approaching Slanket stage
yeeha xxxxx

Oh yeah and for Roll Call purposes

Louise and Diege thanks for your kind words. No news for me. No af. Diet sevearly limited by fact that relatives arrived with a box of chocs and we bought cakes (celebrations for hubby's birthday).

Gum this book is fab, enjoy. So what is your secret.

Muchlove so sorry and Hippy sorry it is not for this month.

To the on the bench all the best, to the rest of us, may we all end up on the bench (it's a big bench, there is room for us all).

Love to all.

Thanks everyone for your words of welcome. Saw doc on another matter on Friday and asked about the lack of peak on the Clearblue, and he said even young women may go a month and not ovulate, and that also the monitor might have missed it, and also said all I needed to do was keep trying and that he has had patients get pregnant at 52 (!).
No idea if any of that is true , but, whatever, I went away feeling better and reassured and happier.
As I keep reading that as long as you're healthy, then age shouldn't be a barrier to getting "Oop Duff", I am trying to sort out my various health as fast as poss so I can crack on with TTC. Have even paid to go private on a number of things. Can't waste any more time on NHS waiting lists!!
Not at my age anyhow...
One of you said yes there are risks at our age, but they are risks worth taking , and that helped me feel more certain that I should go ahead. My DS gives me more happiness than ANYTHING else ever has, so worth a try for a second.
DS really wants a brother or sister too

Morning all, looks like my faint tests were a sign, my temps right down this morning and I have a back ache so just waiting.
Feeling very emotional about it all never did get to tell dh and don't think I will.

Keep the bench warm for me.

Morning! Ah buggeration Spotty Understandably you must feel all over the place. Would it help to tell dh? I'll admit to doing similar a few months back, when I didn't tell dh about an early bfp that faded over the next few days, but sort of wish I had now and of course it all came tumbling out eventually. Thinking of you x
Italian those chocs sound nice . Could you ration out say 1 or 2 a day, or is that a stupid proposition?
Porth glad you are feeling reassured about your cycles. It may well be that the monitor didn't pick up peak - heard that a few times of threads where people have acutally got pregnant. Do you use opks/temping at all?Hippy still on vests and pant stage here, so will quite happily hang around with a slanket over the top for a few days so that you can catch up. Temps still very low, but am slowly contemplating getting back into the saddle!
muchlove don't think early ov has much of a relation to egg quality (I read somewhere that very late might, though Marilyn glenville doubtful..) I am an agnus castus devotee - it sorted my lp out from 9 days to 12, and that was stopping at ovulation. I've not taken it post-mc, but will start again next month.
THanks for the cushion 40some. My initial thought was that cream might get a bit grubby? But that is my mother talking so I take it back . Looks like we may be cycle buddies too? HOw are you feeling?
Big hello to Alba, jollster, tank, Louise, BB, GG and anyone else I've missed x

Arh...spottysox hugs to you xxxx

muchlove I , too, ovulate early in my cycle usually cd 10/11 and have got pg 4x ( although obviously with not the outcome it should have been)

Hi tank, joules, italiangrey hope you re all well ?

Feel a bit grotty here not sure if I ve got an infection.have lower back ache and " gripping" pains . My swab results are negative but think I ll take some an , just in case..,.. Don t want any long term effects if there is an infection there.

Off out for lunch later, have a nice day x
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Oh hi to * gum, diege and alba

• hope you re all well xx

Hi Louise, yes I'd say take something for any possible infection if you can - hope you're not in too much pain, and enjoy your lunch out!
On a totally unrelated note, did anyone see Gillian (McKief? sp?)'s 'faint' last night on on I'm a Celebrity?? Still making me laugh now

Spotty Will keep my fingers crossed for you anyway.

Hippy poo poo poo to your AF. Xmas BFP it is then.

It is very brave trusting Catherine with a newborn! I hope Georgie likes being breastfed (have to say C had excellent positioning) and changing outfit regularly - very regularly!

Louise you're doing just great - do get the infection checked out. You've suffered a huge emotional shock, and I think that makes your body more suspectible to physcial stuff.

I have decided today is positive story day. Here are my contributions:

Stakeholder phoned me up at work last week - she's 41 now. I have known her for years, but she revealed that her 4 month old had died 3 years ago It turned out to be a rare genetic condition. Little boy had been healthy and had just collapsed, died later that day. They had lots of tests, and were advised it was not a good idea to have another child as it ran the risk of the same condition. So... they went the donor egg route, and she is just about to go on maternity leave

Chatting with my MIL about my "high risk" pg yesterday we worked out how old her mother had been. She had had 6 children betweeen the ages of 28 and 43!! All born healthy - though one tragically died of mengititis as a baby. My maternal grandmother also had her last child at 46, and my mum was almost 41 when she had me. And all those babies were fine, normal and healthy So there you go, before we were all neuroticised by the medical profession testing us for every god damm thing, women were happily getting up the duff and having babies well, well, into their 40s.