Charters Anonymous : Volume 2

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Volume 2 starts here ladies!

MrsA you can never tell "what went wrong", as you look as though you did the best you could. I keep reviewing mine to see if something will stand out as to why it didnt work - but there' nothing to see :(

Sorry about AF I would count yesterday as CD1 (we're you sure at 10.30 last night that it was AF?) I don't think FF takes in to account spotting, but definatley any light bleeding.
Fingers crossed for this month :)

Oh bummer, sorry MrsA, I hope you're ok.

It was definately AF last night, so i will count that as CD1.

Thanks for the comments, am feeling OK as we've not been trying very long. I just remember what it was like trying for DD - most months ended up feeling crap so not looking forward to it but I am, IYKWIM.

I am old and overweight. Sigh. Going to the docs after a few more months will be so depressing.

Another tech qn though - looking back, my post ov temps seem to fluctuate and never get very high, although there is a definate chemical shift. Does this suggest anything obvious? eg am I ov but don't have enough hormones to make any implantation stick perhaps?

Did you chart when you were having DD, MrsA? Maybe that will even up the odds and you'll fall a bit quicker this time? I think on your chart as long as you can see a def thermal shift and your luteal phase is long enough (over 10 days or so) there shouldn't be an issue with supporting pregnancy. If you got pg you start producing more progesterone anyway and your temps would go up more.

My temps have dropped loads everyday and are now in a nice pre-ov range so hopefully hormones have settled into a better pattern [[http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/2fee7f
here]]. It's interesting as I don't normally bother charting during AF.

Hello all

Sorry for appearance of Af MrsA . Come join us on the July bus!!

Here is my latest chart temps seem to be fluctuating but definitely below the pre-AF temps (not sure if I should be happy I did OV last month or gutted that it didn't work!)

Quick question - when should I start using the OPK's this month? The instructions say I should start on CD9 but FF reckons I might be fertile from CD10 so don't want to miss the surge. WWYD??

Aggghhh EWCM on CD 5 - now what should I do with this?!?!

Terrys if it were me, I'd start testing. I bought shed loads of the OPK from amazon for just a few quid, so it costs pennies.
And I often notice EWCM early days, even mixed in with AF (TMI!!). If you're clear of AF and generally ov by CD14, I'd start SWI and testing.

LadyGGG no, I didn't chart with DD. Didn't even know about it. I only found mumsnet after i got pg. It wasn't until the ladies on my postnatal thread recommended TCOYF that I became aware. Amazing book.
I keep reading about all the problems that could exist and thinking the worst. I know that's bad of me. I should focus on the positive and it's only been a short while of SWI.

Anyone know of a good supplement for DP to take BTW? I'm on pre natal vitamins but I've heard zinc is good for sperm. I've also ordered some preseed lubricant as it got good reviews.

Hmmm, it is mixed with leftover (doesn't that sound lovely!) AF so maybe its not the right stuff??

Also ordered pre seed today MrsA - lets hope it does the trick!!

Sopunds strange Terrys, sounds like is remnants of AF to me? And on the question of OPK's I'd start using them as soon as you start to see fertile quality CM. I reckon buy the cheapies but buy loads and test loads so you don't miss it!

I'm on last remnants of spotting so SWI campaign to start shortly. Going to go for every other day and then go for it when we get the signs! That is plan anyway.

MrsA don't Pregnacare do a His and Hers pre-natal vitamin? My DP not done any of that...yet!

hi, been lurking for a while and keeping an eye on you all

Yes, lady pregnacare do his and hers conception vits (actually cheaper if you buy it like that) Thats what TB and I were on as soon as we found out about his slightly defunct white goods. This has zinc and all sort of other stuff in.

mouse so sorry to hear your DP was being a bit of a dick, hope he has sorted himself out now and is being nicer to you.

Hope both you and spilt are bearing up, v impressed that you are getting back on the horse. Hope it works out for you both very soon.

Hi rocket, thanks for asking. I'm still going but having a very hard day. It's exactly 2 weeks since we had the scan and found out Bobbie had died. I'm feeling a bit better now, but as the appointment time approached (it was 1.30 we had the scan) I got more and more panicky and frightened and cried and hyperventilated my way up to 1.30 as all the fear and memories of the scan day built up again and I re-lived lying there with the lady leaning over, touching my arm and saying "I'm afraid it's bad news...." Strangely once the time passed I've calmed down a huge amount and feel more peaceful.

Starting on the chocolate hobnobs again now xx

Oh crap. I have killed the thread again

Please come back!

Oh spilt - I'm here! :)

It's completley understandable that you will have a wobble every now & then. You've had such a horrendous time :(

x

Sorry split I thought I had killed it and then had to do some work. As If said you are bound to have wobbles, it's such early days, but like any grief it will get easier, you will never forget but it will get less painful with time. Each landmark is part of the process, I suppose. I hope you are feeling a bit better now. Big hugs. xx

I'm still here too! I did exactly the same thing on the day that would have been my 12 week scan. I just got worse and worse as 1pm approached thinking of what might have been and how happy and excited we were. Like you said though as that time passed I started to calm down. This will happen for us x

my news? I was asked to go in to see the gp today re some hospital results. I've got MRSA. Aaaggh!

xx

Spilt and Mouse it is natural to feel like that. I have a mini-wobble every Tuesday as that would be 11 weeks, 12 weeks, 13 weeks etc. Is horrible. I know I'd feel a lot better if I was pregnant again . Something else to focus on. Hopefully soon for all of us.

oh mouse MRSA??

What do you have to do/take now for that? Is there no end to the bloody nightmare for us all?!

I know! I have been prescribed nose cream, throat spray, shampoo and body wash. I have to be reswabbed in a week then for another 2 weeks after that. If it doesn't go away then the anti biotics will begin. Ttc seems a long way away at the moment. I'm supposed to be back at work tomorow but I think the boss will freak out. We also have a teacher whose DD is in remission from cancer so I'm a risk to her too.

At least it's half term so I'm not having to ask for more time off

oh mouse what a pain in the arse!!! On top of everything else too :( I hope the scrub downs do the trick and you get the all clear asap. :(

Oh god, Mouse. How did you get that? Can you be signed off a bit longer?

AF is just about buggering off now (the tail end spotting seems to be lasting forever) so now just the wait for SWI time. This is the most dull part of a cycle I feel. I keep feeling like my body revs up and has a go at laying around the typical day 14 and for whatever reason doesn't quite manage so has another go a week or so later - seems to have happened quite a few times like that. anyone else have this?

Sorry Mouse sounds horrid, but hoping the various methods work for you and there is no need for drugs!

Spilt others have said what I was thinking, you are bound to get difficult days and for what it's worth, I think you sound amazingly strong and are dealing with things so well.

Am sharing my chart as an update here as I think it looks promising but have absolutely no symptoms whatsoever. I've disregarded one temp from last weekend as it's out of sync with the others and I'd been awake for a while before I remembered to take it (after a night of drinking at a wedding) so I think it's a bit misleading. QQ - is there such a thing as an implantation dip? I've read conflicting views and wondered what your thoughts are. I'm thinking of testing on Monday if no AF by then, as this will be 14 DPO.

Well my post partum bleeding appears to have stopped now, so I guess I'm on the watch for ovulation now. CD14 today if I take Bobbie's date of birth as CD1 - does that sound right?

We are going to leave it for this cycle and probably ttc next time round. We've both been ill with vile colds/stuffed up faces and temperatures so I think a chance to recover would be good for my body!

Lady I know what you mean about the dull wait for the fertile zone. I remember finding it very frustrating, not least because the day I ovulated changed a lot so I never knew quite when it was coming. Hope it's not too long for you this time.

Truff you can get implantation dips, but not always. I suspect you could only really identify one if you got a BFP and then looked back at your chart, - otherwise it could just be a random blip again. Do you know how long your luteal phase is usually? Just remember, even if you do get a BFN on Monday but no AF then it ain't over! Sometimes peoples BFPs don't turn up until 18-21DPO (by which point most of us would be gibbering wrecks with the suspense...)

Truff looks good so far. But I've had "implantation dips" the month I did conceve and the month I didn't. FF say they are twice as likely to appear on pg charts as non-pg charts so encouraging but not conclusive. I'd test on Sunday but only cos I like testing on a weekend in case of BFP/upset by BFN!

Spilt you can count that day as cd1 but is prob a bit arbitary. It will take your body a while for the hormones to all settle and the hormone chain to get going again. My temps were all over the place last cycle. Higher temps than normal for first half and lower temps than would expect post-ov and only a 7 day luteal phase. Sounds like will be good for you to hae a cycle off as your hormone levels must have been much higher from Bobbie than from mine at only 7 weeks. It will prob feel agonisingly slow and you will get pissd off waiting. I was obsessively looking at chart gallery on after miscarriage charts to see what typically happended. whatever gets you through.

Thanks Lady. I'm not expecting any form of textbook or typical-for-me type cycle, it's just a wait and see game really. Gives me something to ponder amongst all the rest of the misery

Hope you get a more normal cycle this time. The odd ones feel like such a gutting waste of time don't they?