IMHO some people have gone completley batty

[RTKangaMummy]

IMHO some people have gone batty

Some of the mad ideas I have read on here in last couple of days

Bonkerz the lot of them

How they treat their nannies or au pairs

They work long hours for not much pay.

There are some very fair parents who are working hard AND treat their au pair with

RESPECT

KINDNESS

But others

who spend all their time finding something to moan about.........

Why can they not treat them the same way they would like their DD to be treated if she wanted to become an au pair?

Would they want their DD to work in same circumstances?

LOOKING AFTER CHILDREN IS THE MOST IMPORTANT JOB IN THE WORLD

THEY ARE OUR FUTURE

It is also the best job in the world and the most fun,

seeing their faces when they have completed a jigsaw puzzle

learnt how to build a tower with 3 bricks

Please remember to treat others as you would like to be treated

.......

You know, it would be altogether easier if you just came out and said exactly and specifically what you mean. Talking about people in groups in not helpful and potentially offensive. Do you mean to be offensive?

here is what respect means

and in your own words?

OK I just had an idea based on several things that I had heard and read about how the world could become a better, happier and safer place for everybody.

IMHO that starts with RESPECT

If we show it to the people who care for the children whoever they are

Then the children will grow up to learn that if you show respect for others it will be shown back again

And then hopefully in the future the world will be a better place.

IMHO

/snore

I don't think you're getting anywhere Ameriscot
All very bizarre.
Seriously, RTKM, are you OK?

I don't think Kanga respects me...

snort. Stop that now!

Well I am not now I am sitting here in tears

Cos people are having a go at me for my opinion and why am I not allowed to have an idea on how to make the world better for our children to grow up in.

I can't beliefe that I have once again looked at this thread and see it is still going a total 358 messages.

Again ladies can i RESPECTfully suggest that everyone stop posting because Kanga lost the plot a long time ago and obviously is unable to answer other peoples questions because she keeps throwing up cows manure every time.

Get a life Kanga!!!

Ameriscot I completely appreciate every point you've made along the way but it's a bit like you're the one who's being offensive now? Not very nice imo

Critiquing your opinion is the correct way to debate.

It may have been more helpful to all concerned if you had padded out your opinions with details, examples etc. instead of repeating the same ideas over and over.

very supportive watershipdown

Jeez Kanga can you make up your mind what your whole point is. First it is the kdis, then its the childcare (in what ever form) and it goes on, and on, and on, and on. Here take a happy pill.

Ouch, o salty fish

Steady one, watershipdown.
RTKM, I'll say again, are you OK? I just thought your repeated posts seemed a little strange. Is everything OK?

Kanga - no-one quite understands what you are arguing about. Everyone agrees that children are important, and that everyone looking after their children needs to be caring, nurturing, and above all responsible. no-one is going to leave their children with an Old english sheep Dog a la Peter Pan.

In all honesty, you seem to have got yourself in a confusion between wishing to argue particular points on some other thread and making general 'be nice, care about kids' comments. When people discuss the specific complexities of this, the difference between cost and value, market forces, qualifications needed, what we value when we agree cost - you are taking it as a criticism or disagreement of your 'love the kids' message - which it doesn't need to be!

And to be honest it does sound from your postings as if you have been drinking or are upset.

Anything you want to share with us?

Come on, you can't accuse someone of thinly veiled attacks and then expect to get away with blatent personal attacks on that person.

KM, don't get upset, none of it is worth being upset about.

Thanks blu. You have put it much better than I could. Something seems awry here.

I agree with Crunchie, Uwila and Ameriscot.

"I never asked anyone to come on here to comment on my opinion.." (quoting RTKM).

Well why post it then? Do you not think that people who post on MUMSNET (note the name!) do not care about their children? Would we be posting here at all if we didn't give a shit about our kids or who looked after them? As I've said, everyone wants the best they can afford for their children (and money is clearly an issue for you as you have mentioned it in your first thread). I don't see anyone here who is treating their nanny/au pair like shit and paying them peanuts. I'm sure there are some about, but I don't think you'll find them here.

I'm sorry you're upset, but I also see this as a veiled attack on a few mumsnetters, and probably leading on from my thread about nannies and market rates.

look

Tanzie I think that was established long ago. Think people are just concerned about RTKM

I'm very concerned if she is supposed to be looking after children...

RTKM The thing is people totally agree with most of the points you have made, I know I do. I agree that children are teh most important thing and how we bring them up/what childcare we have is also vital as it does impact hugely on their lives. Therefore what you say about respecting our childcare providers once again is spot on.

Personally, and I am sorry if I upset you, what I didn't like was the money arguement. That unfortuneatly seemed to cloud the main point you are making, and that is what I am others I feel got riled about.

I didn't mean to upset anyone, I was angry as I felt you were demanding we respect everyone who came in contact with our children, but were not offering up teh same respect yourself. I hope you accept my apology as I know through other threads you are a nice genuine person