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As a parent, would you find this too bossy?

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Snap8TheCat · 14/06/2017 21:54

I'm a well established childminder and when a new family starts with me I provide them with a pack of my policies and procedures and all the forms I need completing.

I'm thinking of adding a page to iron out little niggles that invariably crop up. Things like, please name clothing, don't drop off early without prior arrangement, i prefer nappies instead of pull ups, no lace up shoes etc etc

It's all worded very friendly but firmly. I feel it's better to air these things before they become a problem and I have to find a way of bringing it up.

However I'm dithering over whether to include it or not. Parents, what do you think?

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mctat · 22/06/2017 19:39

'YET child will happily lie down/keep still while i change as a nanny ......'

Someone said something like this up thread - don't we all know that children are likely test their parents more than they would a nanny/childminder?!

I don't mean this as an argument for pull ups, but it's the implication that the parent is doing something wrong as the child is resisting that I take issue with.

HSMMaCM · 22/06/2017 19:43

Mctat you are right. When parents are upset because I child will happily do something for me and not them, I reassure them it's because I am not their parent and children challenge the people they love the most.

zzzzz · 22/06/2017 20:30

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Blondeshavemorefun · 22/06/2017 22:01

yes children play up their parents more then a nanny/cm

but i cant see how stripping a child off fully from below the waist to put a pull up on is easier or quicker then laying child down and changing nappy

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jannier · 23/06/2017 08:35

mcat....

"I've already accepted that of course childminders will have less time, & if you're out & about of course it's a bit different, but the practically boasting about 30 second nappy changes doesn't sit well."

I don't think anybody is saying every nappy change is a 30 second one...but as a parent if your baby poohs as your about to leave home and your choice is change now and make the children late for school or let the baby get sore that is your choice. As a cm its I cant let baby get sore I cant get the children to school late so yes it has to be quick.

As a parent the cm's clients can use whatever they prefer I don't understand why that means there is a problem buying a pack of nappies for the cm to make her job easier and benefit all in her care rather than a pack of nappy pants. The cost is the same the parent does not have to use them even if they bring their child home in them changing into pull on's is the same remove trousers/bottom half, nappy and put on pull ups.. Both sides happy cm s life easier parents nappy changes unchanged.

jannier · 23/06/2017 08:46

zzzzz Thu 22-Jun-17 22:54:00

"The lying down wiping etc is the same. For a pull up you take trousers/shorts off and put them on again, for a nappy you stick tapes either side (or Velcro). So the fundamental time difference is feet in trousers or tapes sticking down, and I suppose if the the child's legs are held together at the ankle wiping might be a bit slower.
I doubt there's much in it."

When you hold babys ankles the baby is laying on back but in a natural sitting position so wiping front to back and in all the creases is very easy. The dirty nappy is folded in as you open up clearing away worst of mess and leaving the outside clean area under baby you then use wipes for the rest the new clean nappy is already under baby. Once you have cleaned the back area old nappy totally removed legs down ensure front is clean and fasten. If baby stands you can pull up trousers as they stand and if old enough they help you.
If baby is in pull on's and dirty you have to lie them down so surely they still flip wriggle an crawl away even easier as they don't have anything on their ankles so are free to move easily? In which case it basically goes back to the assumption you have to strip off to change a nappy which you don't.

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Trampire · 23/06/2017 09:08

OP, going back to the original question - I would have like the additional 'requests' page.

I've used a CM for 12 years. Yes 12. My dd originally went to her as a baby. Then my son. They then went for a few hours after school when older. We formed such a bond that CM is now a family friend.

At the beginning my CM told me all her do's and don'ts in a lovely friendly way. I've always stuck to it. I totally see where your coming from. My CM is always busy, booked up with waiting lists etc and great OFSTED ratings.

It's s good idea.

strawberrygate · 23/06/2017 14:34

I'd have an issue with the OP in that she seems to just completely dislike and resent parents TBH. No willingness to work with them - just a "I want it this way for my own easier life". With elements of "I'm too good to be changing nappies" as well - nasty attitude

How the frig did you arrive at that conclusion?

strawberrygate · 23/06/2017 14:37

It's weird on mumsnet. There seem to be a lot of cm haters out there. I've always assumed it's a jealousy thing coupled with resentment that some people believe cm's are paid a lot of money for just moochimg about their house. I'd love them to see the realities and how the minded children usually take up more of your time/ attention/ thoughts/ worries than your own children

AvoidingCallenetics · 23/06/2017 14:50

I used to be a cm and my aim was to follow as closely as possible the way the parents would look after their child. I think parents are looking for a home environment, not something that is a mini nursery.
I don't really think you should be telling parents what shoes or nappies to buy. It makes you look lazy and as if you cba to take time with the children in your care.
I think you are entirely reasonable to state that you will only take children early if previously agreed.

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