For those of you who wrote negative things to Ema76 about her CS will you please read this.....

[Shooflypie]

because I am really, really shocked by some of the things that were said to her. I am repeating some of what I wrote on the original post on the basis that I think this issue is important.

I recently had an el cs for exactly the same reasons as Ema76. My mother had a 48 hour labour, forceps delivery, severe tearing which led to incontinence in later life (and further operations), was sectioned with severe PND, which lasted for over a year.

She said it was the worst thing that ever happened to her.

My experience was that my consultant took my fear of VB VERY seriously and his view was that a VB would put me at risk of PND and not bonding with my baby. (And btw I am perfectly robust in all respects other than this particular issue.)

I did have counselling, which was great and sorry but their goal is NOT to persuade you out of a CS as some posters assume.

I had an elcs and it was a fantastic experience. And the recovery was fine. And DS did NOT having breathing difficulties and he DID BF while I was still in the theatre.

Please take note of the following in particular:
A significant additional part of my anxiety and distress prior to the cs being offered, was that I was afraid of other women being judgemental of me.

I was so afraid of this I considered lying about the reasons for having a cs, or even trying for a VB (in the hope it would end in an em cs).

Due to a clued up consultant, a hospital psychologist, and a wonderfully supportive DP, I had the birth that was right for me and it has got our life as a family off to a flying start.

I am now very upfront about why I did have an el cs in the hope that it will be helpful to women like Ema.

I really don't understand why having a VB matters SO MUCH to some people that they think it is OK to behave with such viciousness to a pg woman? Or anyone.

Please will you reflect on the experience that I've outlined here and maybe try to be a bit more empathetic when someone tells you she wants a CS.

And bear in mind that a consultant and a pychologist took the opposite view to you.

Wannabe

Did you see this thread:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/1365/587254

This post:

KtBaby on Fri 15-Aug-08 13:36:21

i have read ema's story on her thread, i just pray to god im as lucky as she is, ema we have alot in common darlin'!

made me wonder if they might have quite a lot in common

Agree with you Wannabe - I couldn't help thinking that no consultant would bother seeing you before at least 12 weeks no matter what your fears were because the pregnancy could end in miscarraige before then and it would have been a waste of their time when they were seeing someone who actually needed to see them!

But that is what you have said isn't it - I am just befuddled with packing and can't think straight!

Can't see her profile though Tigger - I wonder if Ema is the only one that can see it and vice versa!

or if they're the same poster under a namechange.

'And the op is going to have scans and tests from 30 weeks to establish when labour will happen? really? If that was so easy to predict then women would be given these scans later on in pregnancy surely in order to save on having to perform so many inductions. '

Yeah, and the scanning the cervix. Eh?

Never heard of that except in women who may have incompetent cervix.

But even in the US, land of overscanning and testing, they do internals to access the cervix and cervical thinning.

It seems there are a number of brand new posters, too, starting similar threads.

Something's not adding up.

oh and look, ktbaby is new to mn as well. Ain't that sweet.

If any of these people are trolls I have wasted my breath and raised my blood pressure over nothing. Crumbs, I hope not

Yep bet you feel a bit silly now!

you ladies are so tenacious, all dem hunches.bet you could locate Osama Bin Laden too

LadyThompson

Far more people read these boards then post on them, even if the OPs are trolls it doesnt mean your advice is wasted.

SM, eh? Bit early for the Buckie, even if it is Friday.

I thought the new thread by ktbaby was a bit odd too but felt there was NO WAY i was going to say anything for fear of being jumped upon

Its the scan thing that sparked my negativer remarks

I have worked out that a troll is someone who's not really genuine and posting made up stuff just to provoke reaction...

but why?

What does a troll get out of it? Are they just bored with too much time on their hands? Seems like a ridiculous way to spend your time. But then I am on here all day and have a full time job so what do I know?

They have no life!

if she was a troll then full marks for sparking a great argument debate

i did not start anything for a heated discussion. I asked for advise if refused wales nhs and to get one in wales privately. that is it. certainly did not expect this. I hoped someone out there had extra knowledge in that exact field to help me.
yes i've seen my midwife twice, a hospital one once, two doctors. what's your problem? got an appointment end of August too. why should you care?
I fight for what is important to me. If the rest of you don't that is not my problem.

that was for wannabe by the way. sick of this rubbish. it is a done deal.

irrespective of whether ema is troll, the responses are indicative of how touchy CS is on MN

it is an emotive topic

if a troll this is likely why she picked it, throw bait get a response

it is a MN perennial for an argy bargy - every time

whatever, ema. really and truly.

Osama is probably working in a Welsh hospital, moon-lighting as Ema's ob consultant.

I found it surprising that she got her ELCS agreed that early, and in one day. But I don't know. I feel awful for even thinking she might be a troll in case she isn't. Well...everyone's views were genuine so I guess that's what counts....

Nah on second thoughts Ema76 has posted on a few threads and with some nice/kind comments
too

We must stop being so suspicious

10 weeks is a bit early to see consultant.

And why would one post about getting a c-section the day before visiting a consultant?

So Ema how did you get to see a consultant so early in your pregnancy, at what stage did your doctor confirm your pregnancy just after DH hopped off!

FFS you have been rumbled love!

good luck ktbaby. i am genuine and have feelings like anyone else and yes this is an emotional issue. but why get upset if someone wants to do something different, i don't mind what you decide for your birth, i don't have to do it. Thanks to comments from those like Ladythompson and qually etc... you know eho you are and seem balanced and non-judgemental women, mumsnet lucky to have you and so was i.