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Horrific birth experience - don’t read if your pregnant

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Parsley91 · 11/06/2021 23:17

No one will talk to me about the birth experience I endured so I hope it’s ok to vent as I feel horrible about it still and can’t talk about it.

So I should probably start off by saying my whole childbirth experience was affected by two things:
1.) awful midwife who didn’t give a toss about me and was as unhelpful as possible
2.) I had to be monitored during my birth as I was high risk

Essentially I was ignored when asking for pain relief as midwife didn’t think baby was coming so soon so postponed it and also was coerced to giving birth on my back, which was against my birth plan and there was not an especially good reason for it. Basically I needed help to move my body and the only person willing to help me move was my husband who had pretty much been told to butt out at that point.

The pain was absolutely horrific, and I say this as someone with a high pain tolerance. I ended up giving birth with no pain relief other than gas and air which did nothing for pain but made me feel ill and baby came very quickly, causing lacerations and I had an episiotomy. I only pushed for 20 mins and they kept shouting at me to push (hypnobirthing went out the window!) but literally nothing was happening, baby wouldn’t come out and I was losing energy and couldn’t push any harder. Later a different midwife told me that the pain would indeed have been bad with how fast things progressed - baby did come extremely fast in the end despite how it felt like he just wouldn’t come out. I am a very laid back person and went into the labour ward feeling optimistic and coping well with the pain. Dr and midwives literally exchanged incredulous looks as if I was a madwoman when I turned down their offer of paracetamol to help with the contractions. I then felt quite awkward about it, but I had thought it was quite normal for women to want to do without pain relief - but how would paracetamol have done any good anyway? It’s not exactly strong! I was all but tied to the bed due to BP monitor, drip, and two wires for monitoring baby and could do nothing more than lie flat on my back, perch on edge of the too-high bed or stand upright. Midwife didn’t want to get me a ball as she didn’t feel it was an optimal position for monitoring the baby - she eventually agreed but just didn’t fetch one. She didn’t help me move around at all, and my husband, who was currently quite unwell and also has a a bad back, had to help me as much as he could. Due to drip needle in my wrist I couldn’t even support my weight on my hands so I felt like I was trapped.

Afterwards I was stitched up, could feel a great deal of the needles going in and out, and they did this thing which I am guessing is normal when they kept pushing down on my stomach - I think they were trying to force out any more pieces of placenta, or maybe blood? All through this they were having light hearted conversations with each other while they dug their hands into my stomach and stitched me up as I lay there crying from the pain. It was horrible.

All I can think is, how is this normal? I felt like I had been tied to a bed and tortured. My vocal chords were shredded from screaming (two weeks later my throat is still healing). This, from me, who has a high pain tolerance, who is pretty unemotional and doesn’t over react to things. I’m generally calm and collected and cope well in a crisis and with pain. I later asked my husband if I had been overreacting, and he said definitely not. He said he thought I was going to die, and he felt traumatised himself from seeing me like that. We actually have become closer after going through that together.

I lay there in shock from what I’d just went through, at first sobbing, and then silent and shaking, while they all joked about me being ‘out of it’ or ‘tired’. If it weren’t for my husband I think I - well I don’t know what.

How is it normal for women to endure torture like this to the point where those midwives just shrugged it off and treated me like an object as they hurt me afterwards? Many women I spoke to afterwards either didn’t want to hear me talking about my negative experience (which i understand) or else just shrugged it off. Not one person, other than a solitary midwife later on, acknowledged that I had been through something awful. It would have meant so much to me if after the birth someone had put a hand on my arm and said ‘you went through a lot there’ or ‘that was a difficult birth’, but it was treated like absolutely nothing. At one pint, a midwife said ‘she’s in shock’, but no one did anything. My husband just held my hand and held the baby when I couldn’t.

I feel like I should have been offered counselling or something. I’m a strong person, I know I am, but that was the worst experience I’ve ever had, physically. Sometimes I have an emotional wobble and I just cry and cry. It’s so unlike me that I wonder if the traumatic experience has done this. I just feel like no one accepts that this awful thing happened, like I’m supposed to just be okay with it or get over it. I can’t accept this is what all women go through. I know there are a lot of factors actually which made my experience worse (lack of support, being forced to lie on my back, not being able to move or being given no privacy or peace to practice hypnobirthing methods like I planned) but my experience can’t have been that unusual or the midwives wouldn’t have brushed it off surely?

Am I alone in having felt like I’ve been tortured?

Afterwards I was stitched up, could feel a great deal of the needles going in and out, and they did this thing which I am guessing is normal when they kept pushing down on my stomach - I think they were trying to force out any more pieces of placenta, or maybe blood? All through this they were having light hearted conversations with each other while they dug their hands into my stomach and stitched me up as I lay there crying from the pain. It was horrible.

All I can think is, how is this normal? I felt like I had been tied to a bed and tortured. My vocal chords were shredded from screaming (two weeks later my throat is still healing). This, from me, who has a high pain tolerance, who is pretty unemotional and doesn’t over react to things. I’m generally calm and collected and cope well in a crisis. I later asked my husband if I had been overreacting, and he said definitely not. He said he thought I was going to die, and he felt traumatised himself from seeing me like that. We actually have become closer after going through that together.

I lay there in shock from what I’d just went through, at first sobbing, and then silent and shaking, while they all joked about me being ‘out of it’ or ‘tired’. If it weren’t for my husband I think I - well I don’t know what.

How is it normal for women to endure torture like this to the point where those midwives just shrugged it off and treated me like an object as they hurt me afterwards? Many women I spoke to afterwards either didn’t want to hear me talking about my negative experience (which i understand) or else just shrugged it off. Not one person, other than a solitary midwife later on, acknowledged that I had been through something awful. It would have meant so much to me if after the birth someone had put a hand on my arm and said ‘you went through a lot there’ or ‘that was a difficult birth’, but it was treated like absolutely nothing. At one pint, a midwife said ‘she’s in shock’, but no one did anything. My husband just held my hand and held the baby when I couldn’t.

I feel like I should have been offered counselling or something. I’m a strong person, I know I am, but that was the worst experience I’ve ever had, physically. Sometimes I have an emotional wobble and I just cry and cry. It’s so unlike me that I wonder if the traumatic experience has done this. I just feel like no one accepts that this awful thing happened, like I’m supposed to just be okay with it or get over it. I can’t accept this is what all women go through. I know there are a lot of factors actually which made my experience worse (lack of support, being forced to lie on my back, not being able to move or being given no privacy or peace to practice hypnobirthing methods like I planned) but my experience can’t have been that unusual or the midwives wouldn’t have brushed it off surely?

Am I alone in having felt like I’ve been tortured?

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annie335 · 12/06/2021 06:59

This is similar to my first experience too. No pain relief, couldn't push her out, had to be cut. So so painful. I was blue down there afterwards and felt like I'd been kicked by a horse. Had vaginal prolapse later.
I sympathise with you op but unfortunately I think it is just the way it goes sometimes. Try to focus on the fact that you have your beautiful healthy baby. Some mums including a friend of mine lost her baby girl shortly afterwards due to complications. I can only imagine how painful that would be.
Take care x

MaybeCrazy2 · 12/06/2021 06:59

Sorry to hear this but mine was similar in close to every way. Except I didn’t have time to demand things and argue with the midwives as my baby was coming like lightening!

Whilst it sounds traumatic, child birth is. It doesn’t sound like anything particular was off to the point where it put you in danger.

I’m not having anymore kids, the last birth out me off and was horrible.

Baycitystroller · 12/06/2021 07:01

OP…apart from paracetamol did they not offer other pain relief? That seems unusual.

Slayduggee · 12/06/2021 07:02

No your experience was not normal.

You have a had a traumatic birth.

It’s good that your husband is supportive and felt that it was a traumatic experience as well. The worst think about birth trauma is that people dismiss it and tell you to ‘get over it’ or ‘pull yourself together’.

I had a traumatic birth which on paper was routine. Labour progressed rapidly but baby got stuck and I ended up with forceps in theatre. In reality I was induced with a back to back baby and went from not even a twinge to pushing in 3 hours (first baby). It was incredible painful. However, the midwife would not believe I was labour and dumped me in the bath so I spent most of my labour on my back (most painful position). I was denied any pain relief dispute my repeated begging. I was convinced I was going to die. Eventually, I told the midwife that I was pushing and she sighed and reluctantly examined me and discovered I was indeed fully dilated (dispute not being in labour 10 seconds earlier according to her!) I was lifted onto a wheelchair and wheeled round to the labour ward at supersonic speed as the thought I was going to deliver on the bathroom floor and not make it to the labour ward!

Unfortunately, baby got stuck and I ended up with forceps, tear, episiotomy, and haemorrhage.

It was the cruel and non-supportive midwifes that caused my birth trauma and being in controlled pain.

What I found helped was -

Email PALS and ask for a birth debrief (google PALS and your hospital name). This will involve a senior midwife going through your notes with you and they should be able to explain what happened and why. The midwife saw I was traumatised and referred me to a peri-natal counsellor.

Join the birth trauma associate FB group.

Depending on what you read in your notes may decide to complain to the hospital. I did and received an apology in writing.

Two years later I had DC2 at home. It was so different. I had two supportive midwifes. I was able to use a birth pool and change positions multiple times and I was immediately given gas and air when I requested it.

frumpety · 12/06/2021 07:07

You can be a very strong, emotionally resilient person, who copes well in a crisis, have a very high pain threshold, have prepared in every concievable way and still be absolutely poleaxed by the excrutiating pain of labour and birth. The latter doesn't stop the former from still being true. Flowers

FindingMeno · 12/06/2021 07:08

You are obviously traumatised by this and thank goodness it sounds like you have a lovely dh.
Birth is traumatic in many cases but you don't need to assess whether you are allowed to feel like this.
You do, and that is valid.
I hope you can begin to feel better about this, and if you are struggling to please look for help in processing this.
I hope it helps that lots up us are listening Flowers

SlipperyDippery · 12/06/2021 07:08

I’m not sure why people are so keen to tell OP her experience was standard or not that unusual - I don’t think she has claimed it was the worst possible birth, and it comes across as minimising her experience which was traumatic for her.

OP, your feelings around your birth are valid. I’m sorry you weren’t treated with more respect. I had a difficult birth which I was very upset about, but a debrief really helped.

I had a really lovely midwife and obstetrician though. I think the fact they were making light hearted comments while stitching you up, and the fact they didn’t care you didn’t have proper pain relief for the stitches, is disgraceful. Even if the birth was not unusual to them, they should recognise the subjective experience of the patients they treat. That’s fucking basic. My husband is an oncologist and it’s not unusual for him to deliver bad news to patients but doesn’t mean he is blasé about it because it’s normal to him - it isn’t normal to the patient and that’s what matters. Same with maternity services, or rather it should be. No one gives a fuck about women giving birth and we are told we have to be grateful for our baby and not complain about what may have happened to us.

HildegardeCrowe · 12/06/2021 07:09

God, what women have to go through 🙁 I’m a wimp and had an epidural but that meant that I had a long labour and couldn’t push towards the end so ended up having forceps. It didn’t hurt though. Before the epidural I endured a very long night of incredibly painful contractions (I was left in a bath at the hospital and they forgot about me) and can only try to imagine the torture you describe. I’m so sorry for what you went through OP and hope it hasn’t affected your relationship with your child. I agree that you probably have some form of PTSD and you need to process what you went through - talking about it here is a good start. All the best to you and your baby.

Secretsout · 12/06/2021 07:14

Hi OP, midwife here. I'm sorry you had a negative experience.
You definitely need to arrange a debrief with the hospital to go through each of your points.

It's obvious the birth didn't go according to your plan and expectations but a debrief will help you understand why there were differences.

Sorry I'm not quoting you word for word in my examples because I now can't see your OP (I'm not very tech)

A debrief will explain, for example, you say you felt your were stuck on the bed and asked for a birthing ball....but if you've had 2 previous CS you are pretty high risk, hence the IV's and continuous monitoring, so it's very probable that midwife wasn't able to effectively monitor fetal heart rate from a position of you being on a ball and this is why you were on the bed.

Another example was that you said they were shouting at you to push but nothing was happening but then say baby was born after 20 mins of pushing? 20 mins of pushing is quick. And if they were shouting at you (sorry if they were) perhaps there were indications with either yours or baby's well-being to suggest an quick delivery was necessary and that's why they were trying to get you to push hard and quickly.

You also say you refused analgesia (paracetamol) then say you had only gas and air so it was a very painful experience. Paracetamol is an effective analgesic and is always the first level of analgesia offered. We would always offer this first then move on to stronger stuff. Did you want an epidural? Was it in your birth plan? It sounds like you wanted to hypno birth and have everything 'normal' so this would be kind of at odds with an epidural. An epidural would have meant you'd have been on the bed? As I say, perhaps your birth plan wasn't clear on what you did or didn't want?

The pressing on your abdomen after the birth was probably to keep checking your uterus was contracting, perhaps you were bleeding or trickling blood and they were trying to 'rub up' a contraction to prevent bleeding. It's pretty uncomfortable/painful but necessary.

As I say, it's sounds like to you it was an awful experience but a debrief will try and explain why events happened and help you understand.

I hope this might explain a couple of things but do contact your hospital and go through it all with them

1AngelicFruitCake · 12/06/2021 07:15

It’s like someone said, one person’s normal, is another person’s horrific.

My second I was in labour for 7 hours, the last few absolute agony on gas and air. Midwife getting annoyed at me. Baby back to back, tore badly, blood transfusion. It was horrendous for my husband and for me at the time but I’ve tried to let it go, forget about it because it’s done and I got my baby from it. My attitude might not be right but that’s why some women might not want to discuss it because they don’t want to tell you there’s was similar or worse and are trying not to dwell on it.

The whole birth propaganda about natural births, breathe snd your baby will appear etc is so dangerous. Some people are lucky and have easy births and can’t understand why some of us struggle with ours.

SushiGo · 12/06/2021 07:17

I had a similar experience with my first birth. Afterwards, at my first appointment with my community midwife at home she apologised about my birth without me having said anything which really confirmed to me the fact that I had been ignored and refused pain relief for no reason was not acceptable.

It's okay to talk about, and your feelings are completely valid but do try and take steps to move on. I would say after a few months the memory wasn't so fresh to me.

I had my best baby under the NHS homebirths service, you can only have gas and air, but you get a dedicated midwife 1 to 1 through your birth and are treated like a human being. I highly recommend it.

SushiGo · 12/06/2021 07:18

Best baby! Sorry that should next baby.

Dailywalk · 12/06/2021 07:19

I felt the same way after my first. I think your experience sounds traumatic and I think you’re right to talk about it.
From the midwives perspective I suspect they see similar situations all the time and perhaps haven’t realised what it may be like for you.

Robinkitty · 12/06/2021 07:21

It’s been 15 years since my first and I still feel bad about it reading your story op brings back those memories especially the bit about them stitching up at the end.

Ladybug82 · 12/06/2021 07:22

@Parsley91 so sorry you went through this with no support from the midwifes. I had a similar experience. There should be what my hospital calls and after thoughts program. It's where you sit down with a member of staff with your notes and go through step by step what happened and explain. Giving you every chance to express how you felt. It's a way of seeing what went wrong and what was right also explaining to you the reason why somethings happened. You also get a chance to make a formal complaint if you both fee necessary. Most importantly you can get refered to a councillor if needed. Call your health visitor and ask about the after thoughts program or local midwife. Hope this helps x

Stanleysaysyes · 12/06/2021 07:24

Secretsout not being goady, this is a genuine question , I noticed you didn't mention the stitching without pain relief, or adequate pain relief anyway. What could be a possible reason for that? As you can't see the text the op said ;

"Afterwards I was stitched up, could feel a great deal of the needles going in and out"

ChocOrange1 · 12/06/2021 07:28

The thing with birth is one persons ok is another’s horrific.
Yes I think this is definitely true. I had a quick birth (10 mins pushing Stage according to notes), no pain relief and was on my back and I found it fine. I had some tearing to which they stitched. Did you have pain relief for the stitches I.e. local anaesthetic?

This is probably why the midwives were just carrying on chatting because, to them, you had a fairly straightforward birth.

The issue here is that you weren't listened to, when you asked for pain relief or to birth in a different position or anything else which they ignored you about. You can contact your hospital's birth debrief service or PALS to make a complaint about this.

spittycup · 12/06/2021 07:29

@Stanleysaysyes

Secretsout not being goady, this is a genuine question , I noticed you didn't mention the stitching without pain relief, or adequate pain relief anyway. What could be a possible reason for that? As you can't see the text the op said ;

"Afterwards I was stitched up, could feel a great deal of the needles going in and out"

Isn't it always like that? I felt the stuchhe
Mummyto293 · 12/06/2021 07:29

I’m sorry you had such a traumatic time it really does sound awful.
I am a mum and a midwife. And although you may have had a ‘normal’ birth that doesn’t mean that it can’t be traumatic and I think sometimes people don’t realise that.
You sounded completely unsupported and not listened to which is really sad. It doesn’t take much to get a ball and get you up and mobilising (with or without continuous monitoring). Dim the lights, keep the noise minimal to help with hypnobirthing and have a supportive midwife by your side. Not every midwife is like the midwife you had and I’m sorry you weren’t supported.
Have you thought about speaking to your GP and getting some counselling sorted? X

Baycitystroller · 12/06/2021 07:30

You can feel the stitches but there shouldn’t be pain. It’s unusual not to have a pain relief injection prior to the stitching.

ChocOrange1 · 12/06/2021 07:30

@Stanleysaysyes

Secretsout not being goady, this is a genuine question , I noticed you didn't mention the stitching without pain relief, or adequate pain relief anyway. What could be a possible reason for that? As you can't see the text the op said ;

"Afterwards I was stitched up, could feel a great deal of the needles going in and out"

With local anaesthetic you can feel the sensation of the needle going in and out, you just can't feel the pain. I wasn't sure what OP meant by this statement. If she didn't have any pain relief for stitches that is really awful
Sunnysideup999 · 12/06/2021 07:33

Sadly this is all very standard.
I had a similar experience. Trauma is the correct word. I’m so sorry you experienced this. Seek counselling which might help

spittycup · 12/06/2021 07:33

Whoops phone messed up

In regards to stitches, i thought its normal to feel the stitching motion itself if theres no pain? I remember feeling it after a very good birth

I am scared of something like these stories happening with the next one. Childbirth and pregnancy is so unpredictable, anything could happen. These are awful. I'm panicking and about to faint having blood taken, some of you are extremely brave.

huuuuunnnndderrricks · 12/06/2021 07:34

I'd have taken a death pill in labour if they offered it .. bloody horrific and I consider myself tough!

RidingMyBike · 12/06/2021 07:38

You can arrange a birth debrief via the maternity unit, usually. A midwife trained in counselling goes through your birth notes with you and explains why things happened as they did. It helped me to understand why some things happened during my DD's birth which turned out to have been very necessary.

You can also complain to the hospital - I found it helpful to get down on the screen a list of where things had gone wrong and how it could have been different. My debrief only happened after I complained but the complaint letter gave them several areas where things hadn't gone well and which they could easily have improved or which shouldn't have happened in the first place. I ended up meeting with the Chief Midwife to go thru this, although it took a while for my complaint to be acknowledged.

Also worth mentioning your antenatal classes if you did them at the hospital as it sounds like they weren't good preparation for the reality of giving birth. Hypnobirthing is all very well - I did the classes but was a high risk pregnancy and knew I was being induced - I used the techniques to help keep calm but was also well informed about what would happen in induction and when to ask for an epidural. If you did private antenatal classes and they didn't prepare you for induction, cover pain relief options etc then complain to them too as they haven't done their job. Eg whilst you can plan to move around (I did initially with my induction) once you're on the drip and on monitoring then it's often unrealistic and it sounds like no one told you this. But, I knew to get an epidural before that. So what preparation were you offered in terms of what to expect?