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Horrific birth experience - don’t read if your pregnant

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Parsley91 · 11/06/2021 23:17

No one will talk to me about the birth experience I endured so I hope it’s ok to vent as I feel horrible about it still and can’t talk about it.

So I should probably start off by saying my whole childbirth experience was affected by two things:
1.) awful midwife who didn’t give a toss about me and was as unhelpful as possible
2.) I had to be monitored during my birth as I was high risk

Essentially I was ignored when asking for pain relief as midwife didn’t think baby was coming so soon so postponed it and also was coerced to giving birth on my back, which was against my birth plan and there was not an especially good reason for it. Basically I needed help to move my body and the only person willing to help me move was my husband who had pretty much been told to butt out at that point.

The pain was absolutely horrific, and I say this as someone with a high pain tolerance. I ended up giving birth with no pain relief other than gas and air which did nothing for pain but made me feel ill and baby came very quickly, causing lacerations and I had an episiotomy. I only pushed for 20 mins and they kept shouting at me to push (hypnobirthing went out the window!) but literally nothing was happening, baby wouldn’t come out and I was losing energy and couldn’t push any harder. Later a different midwife told me that the pain would indeed have been bad with how fast things progressed - baby did come extremely fast in the end despite how it felt like he just wouldn’t come out. I am a very laid back person and went into the labour ward feeling optimistic and coping well with the pain. Dr and midwives literally exchanged incredulous looks as if I was a madwoman when I turned down their offer of paracetamol to help with the contractions. I then felt quite awkward about it, but I had thought it was quite normal for women to want to do without pain relief - but how would paracetamol have done any good anyway? It’s not exactly strong! I was all but tied to the bed due to BP monitor, drip, and two wires for monitoring baby and could do nothing more than lie flat on my back, perch on edge of the too-high bed or stand upright. Midwife didn’t want to get me a ball as she didn’t feel it was an optimal position for monitoring the baby - she eventually agreed but just didn’t fetch one. She didn’t help me move around at all, and my husband, who was currently quite unwell and also has a a bad back, had to help me as much as he could. Due to drip needle in my wrist I couldn’t even support my weight on my hands so I felt like I was trapped.

Afterwards I was stitched up, could feel a great deal of the needles going in and out, and they did this thing which I am guessing is normal when they kept pushing down on my stomach - I think they were trying to force out any more pieces of placenta, or maybe blood? All through this they were having light hearted conversations with each other while they dug their hands into my stomach and stitched me up as I lay there crying from the pain. It was horrible.

All I can think is, how is this normal? I felt like I had been tied to a bed and tortured. My vocal chords were shredded from screaming (two weeks later my throat is still healing). This, from me, who has a high pain tolerance, who is pretty unemotional and doesn’t over react to things. I’m generally calm and collected and cope well in a crisis and with pain. I later asked my husband if I had been overreacting, and he said definitely not. He said he thought I was going to die, and he felt traumatised himself from seeing me like that. We actually have become closer after going through that together.

I lay there in shock from what I’d just went through, at first sobbing, and then silent and shaking, while they all joked about me being ‘out of it’ or ‘tired’. If it weren’t for my husband I think I - well I don’t know what.

How is it normal for women to endure torture like this to the point where those midwives just shrugged it off and treated me like an object as they hurt me afterwards? Many women I spoke to afterwards either didn’t want to hear me talking about my negative experience (which i understand) or else just shrugged it off. Not one person, other than a solitary midwife later on, acknowledged that I had been through something awful. It would have meant so much to me if after the birth someone had put a hand on my arm and said ‘you went through a lot there’ or ‘that was a difficult birth’, but it was treated like absolutely nothing. At one pint, a midwife said ‘she’s in shock’, but no one did anything. My husband just held my hand and held the baby when I couldn’t.

I feel like I should have been offered counselling or something. I’m a strong person, I know I am, but that was the worst experience I’ve ever had, physically. Sometimes I have an emotional wobble and I just cry and cry. It’s so unlike me that I wonder if the traumatic experience has done this. I just feel like no one accepts that this awful thing happened, like I’m supposed to just be okay with it or get over it. I can’t accept this is what all women go through. I know there are a lot of factors actually which made my experience worse (lack of support, being forced to lie on my back, not being able to move or being given no privacy or peace to practice hypnobirthing methods like I planned) but my experience can’t have been that unusual or the midwives wouldn’t have brushed it off surely?

Am I alone in having felt like I’ve been tortured?

Afterwards I was stitched up, could feel a great deal of the needles going in and out, and they did this thing which I am guessing is normal when they kept pushing down on my stomach - I think they were trying to force out any more pieces of placenta, or maybe blood? All through this they were having light hearted conversations with each other while they dug their hands into my stomach and stitched me up as I lay there crying from the pain. It was horrible.

All I can think is, how is this normal? I felt like I had been tied to a bed and tortured. My vocal chords were shredded from screaming (two weeks later my throat is still healing). This, from me, who has a high pain tolerance, who is pretty unemotional and doesn’t over react to things. I’m generally calm and collected and cope well in a crisis. I later asked my husband if I had been overreacting, and he said definitely not. He said he thought I was going to die, and he felt traumatised himself from seeing me like that. We actually have become closer after going through that together.

I lay there in shock from what I’d just went through, at first sobbing, and then silent and shaking, while they all joked about me being ‘out of it’ or ‘tired’. If it weren’t for my husband I think I - well I don’t know what.

How is it normal for women to endure torture like this to the point where those midwives just shrugged it off and treated me like an object as they hurt me afterwards? Many women I spoke to afterwards either didn’t want to hear me talking about my negative experience (which i understand) or else just shrugged it off. Not one person, other than a solitary midwife later on, acknowledged that I had been through something awful. It would have meant so much to me if after the birth someone had put a hand on my arm and said ‘you went through a lot there’ or ‘that was a difficult birth’, but it was treated like absolutely nothing. At one pint, a midwife said ‘she’s in shock’, but no one did anything. My husband just held my hand and held the baby when I couldn’t.

I feel like I should have been offered counselling or something. I’m a strong person, I know I am, but that was the worst experience I’ve ever had, physically. Sometimes I have an emotional wobble and I just cry and cry. It’s so unlike me that I wonder if the traumatic experience has done this. I just feel like no one accepts that this awful thing happened, like I’m supposed to just be okay with it or get over it. I can’t accept this is what all women go through. I know there are a lot of factors actually which made my experience worse (lack of support, being forced to lie on my back, not being able to move or being given no privacy or peace to practice hypnobirthing methods like I planned) but my experience can’t have been that unusual or the midwives wouldn’t have brushed it off surely?

Am I alone in having felt like I’ve been tortured?

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Thisisus909 · 11/06/2021 23:50

@MissM2912

I am going to be brutal and speak as someone with some experience in this field- what you are describing would be fairly run of the mill to the midwives and not what THEY would see as a traumatic birth. This could explain their lack of empathy. I would suggest you speak to your health visitor about arranging a birth de brief when someone will go through it with you step by step. You could also arrange some private counselling? It could be a long waiting time before an NHS appointment becomes available.
Lack of compassion or callousness in a vulnerable time is absolutely unacceptable regardless of how (sadly) common it may be.
RHTawneyonabus · 11/06/2021 23:52

I’m so sorry. I had a horrific second birth involving the crash cart and loosing 3 ltrs of blood. The worst part though was still to come as I developed full blown PTSD which felt like I was loosing my mind. CBT made things much much better so I’d advise you to try and get some help talking through your experience.

QioiioiioQ · 11/06/2021 23:53

and they all wanted to hold her while I was trying to give her her first feed
😟😟😟😟
how awful, disrespectful, how invasive...I'm speechless
I also had narcissist acting out and humiliating me, and the ex who was a cunt and was with his other girlfriend when our child was born

Twillow · 11/06/2021 23:55

Sorry you are feeling so traumatised. I had two straightforward and fast deliveries, each was THE MOST painful (and weird) thing I have ever experienced in my life. It's kind of like dental treatment - you can't see it, don't really know what's happening and you just can't practise for it!
I also had birth plans for various things that went completely out of the window in the moment. I agree that some midwives could definitely do better at communicating with their patients, but I do see where their focus rightly is and that is the safe delivery of the baby.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 11/06/2021 23:57

@SoSadAboutMyDad

Had 2 awful birth experiences in incompetent NHS hospitals with shitty midwives. It’s pretty much the norm in the UK and no one gives a fuck.
Yep. No pain relief, too.
Workingfromhomeishell · 11/06/2021 23:57

It sounds like you had a normal birth. Perhaps you were a little naieve about what labour entails?

Castlepeak · 11/06/2021 23:57

Op, your account reads like many others. It’s not even very remarkable. I don’t say that to discount it’s impact on you. Quite the contrary. Women really are hurt every day by how we are treated during childbirth both physically and emotionally.

The reason the staff acted like this was all perfectly normal was because for them it was a typical day. There may have even been a woman in the next room having a remarkably similar experience.

It’s wrong and it needs to change but as we know, this is a long and hard battle to fight.

osbertthesyrianhamster · 11/06/2021 23:59

@Workingfromhomeishell

It sounds like you had a normal birth. Perhaps you were a little naieve about what labour entails?
It doesn't have to be like that. But they love their oral paracetamol here.
Parsley91 · 12/06/2021 00:00

Yes, my baby boy is here and safe and that’s what truly matters.

He’s actually my third - I had two previous elective C sections for different reasons but really wanted to try for a vbac for this one. I guess that I’ve been taught a lesson there lol. It’s weird how much it’s helped having a few comments from strangers on the internet. I would have been happy with the same from friends and family but for some reason people don’t want to talk about it. I know it’s in bad taste to talk about negative birth stories to people who haven’t had a baby, so I haven’t, but even the others don’t seem to want to talk about it. As far as birth plans and hypnobirthing go, I was prepared for things to go wrong or not to plan at least. I really am a laid back person and was ready for anything. The bloody midwife kept talking about her dogs and other stupid things and wouldn’t give me straight answers to my relevant questions the entire time, so I didn’t get a moment to ‘get in the zone’ or whatever but was stressed out having to labour while perched on the edge of the bed. Not wanting to labour on my back was the only stipulation on my birth plan, which is why i was annoyed at being ignored.

Anyway, thank you all so much. I do feel this has helped me so I can move forward. It’s horrible thinking that you maybe imagined how bad something was but you still feel awful about it

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ShinyGreenElephant · 12/06/2021 00:01

@QioiioiioQ I know, actually baffles me looking back that the hospital let everyone come piling in while I was clearly in shock and just wanted to hide away with my baby. My last birth was at home and I took myself straight off to bed with dd and didnt let anyone near us

Thisnamewasnttaken123 · 12/06/2021 00:02

I have had 4 births, only one with a decent midwife.
The rest incompetent, didn't listen to me, didn't care. Didn't give me pain relief when requested. Ignored notes written by my physio all over my birthplan. She told me they would ignore her instructions that I wasnt to lie on my back and they wouldn't let me get up when I said that that's what the physio had said. (I needed help to get up due to severe SPD)
Eye rolling and annoyance from a male Dr whilst I was crying in pain because the baby was stuck.
No pain relief given. It was absolute agony so bad I wanted to be put out of my misery.
I have had a male Dr stitch me up complaining my legs were shaking whilst he's trying to stitch me up getting visibly annoyed with me and telling me "will you just stop shaking" like I can control it after an awful birth experience.
There is such a lack of empathy from the staff.
You get a few good ones. But all in all the care quality is low.

CruellaDeNile · 12/06/2021 00:02

Christ OP, I could have written your post almost word for word, right down to it taking 20 mins. I was forced to give birth on my back in stirrups after the gas and air was removed and the midwife didn't put any of it in my notes.
I had a birth debrief and it was suggested I made a formal complaint via PALS which I did and it was taken seriously. They won't tell you what action was taken against the midwife (probably none) but I was told she was the most senior midwife on at the time and also that she had no recollection of any of this happening. Of course she didn't, I wasn't even human to her.
It did help although it's been five years and it still really upsets me. Not sure this is useful but you are not alone Flowers

Estasala · 12/06/2021 00:03

I understand. There's a great book called "How to heal a bad birth" by Melissa Bruijin which helped me a lot. If you can find a psychologist who specialises in birth trauma I would also recommend going for a few sessions. I had about 6 and I got there in the end.

I even went on to have another baby, with a private midwife, which was a completely different and positive experience, despite the fact that it was "objectively" from a medical perspective more complicated and difficult and ended up with baby innNICU. The difference was being supported by a midwife who was connected to me emotionally and psychologically and was able to "be with me", see me, understand me.

belimoo · 12/06/2021 00:06

OP, that sounds horrendous and I'm sorry that you went through it and that you haven't been given the compassion you need after it.

As a pp has said - child birth is one of the most dangerous things you can do. It's up there with some of the most traumatic things that happen in life which you would hope/expect to never happen to you.

If you were in a life threatening car crash/plane crash etc you would expect sympathy and understanding but for some reason women are supposed to just suck it up when it comes to childbirth.

Thanks to you (but you really should be a feminist Smile)

ScrollingLeaves · 12/06/2021 00:10

Thisnamewasnttaken123
“I have had a male Dr stitch me up complaining my legs were shaking whilst he's trying to stitch me up getting visibly annoyed with me and telling me "will you just stop shaking" like I can control it after an awful birth experience.“

I have no words to describe what I think of that doctor. He should be sent to build walls. He has no place in that profession.

21Flora · 12/06/2021 00:11

My birth was quite similar, although I didn’t need an episiotomy or stitches. My midwife and student were very dismissive and I wish I’d been more vocal about my wishes. It was early on in the pandemic and my husband wasn’t allowed it so I felt bullied into making decisions I didn’t want.

They insisted on putting in a cannula for example, I didn’t want one as there was no reason but they insisted it was essential. When I finally gave in I told them it hurt and I couldn’t bend my wrist properly. Hours later they had to give me some anti sickness medication because I couldn’t stop vomiting and the pain shot up my arm. They’d put it in incorrectly but didn’t once apologise. Their incompetence snowballed from there as I still find it frustrating that women are treated with such contempt by people who are supposed to be caring for them.

Parsley91 · 12/06/2021 00:11

@CruellaDeNile you know what, mine was the most senior midwife too. She openly admitted she was looking forward to retirement, didn’t enjoy the job anymore, hated night shift etc etc. She also treated the lovely junior midwife with her like crap. I’ve no doubt this lady will also say she doesn’t remember any of it, she exactly made me feel less than human. Incidentally, I was talked through my labour afterwards because I did ask about all this and was recommended to complain to PALS however I still can’t find a way to complain for NHS Scotland, it only seems to be for England, but I will have another look just in case.

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Maassi · 12/06/2021 00:11

It sounds like a totally normal birthing experience. Childbirth can be a brutal business and there's a whole industry built up around it to disguise that, so sadly women can be unprepared sometimes. Midwives are pretty hard-core medical professionals (every HCP knows not to mess with a midwife!) and if something was going traumatically wrong then I guess they would have behaved differently. Getting a birthing debrief is a good idea to come to terms with it x

Maassi · 12/06/2021 00:15

Having said that, I think there is no reason at all not to show care and compassion for a woman that is giving birth.

PanamaPattie · 12/06/2021 00:18

Midwives and obstetricians don’t see you as a person. You are just a lump of meat. All they care about is getting the baby out alive with as little paperwork as possible.

OnTheBrink1 · 12/06/2021 00:47

@Parsley91

I know my story isn’t that unusual, and it wasn’t like there were especially bad complications either - but it’s just the pain was so damn bad, and I thought I was going to die. And to just come back from that and everyone else was just treating it like an every day situation...I do feel like a drama queen. I’m not particularly a feminist btw but if this is what child birth feels like for everyone I can’t help but feel a bigger deal would be made of it if it was men who had had to deal with the pain.

There’s not a lot of women who I am close to, but all of them just kind of either acted like they didn’t want to talk about how bad it was (like, I expected them to tell me how it had felt when they went through it) or just passed over it with a light hearted comment. My husband even had to convince me I didn’t just imagine it or make it out to be worse than it was.

It sounds like it was a really difficult and very painful experience. I really do think that it’s partly down to sheer luck plus babies position and the woman’s body internally that makes it so different for everyone. Midwives attitudes and bedside manner can contribute hugely to how things go. You weren’t supported and that counted hugely to how you felt about it and may have also hindered the birth itself. Women are designed to give birth in private, quiet, stress free environments. Horrible unsupportive midwives is totally counter to that. As is hospital beds and rooms, harsh light, drips, medical intervention. All these things hinder the birth and can make it far more difficult and painful. Not all women have this experience although I know a few who have had similar to you. One of my best friends described her first birth as 3 days of pure torture. Meanwhile, I had my first very quickly with just gas and air in hospital but the MW was ok thankfully. It was painful (very painful at 10cm and with the ring of fire) I started to shout / scream at one point but the MW said put all that energy into the push and thankfully for me that worked well. I had stitches too but they gave an injection down there to numb it- did they give you anything to numb the area? The MW sounds horrible for chatting whilst doing it and I’m not sure what the pushing stomach was about- can’t remember them doing that. I’m any case, every woman is different. Being a ‘strong woman’ and having a ‘high pain threshold’ I don’t think has much to do with it. I am the total opposite- extremely low pain threshold, very weak with medical things, but thankfully for me all was fine- it was just luck, I didn’t do anything much to control it, just all down to luck. I think you should definitely speak to someone professional about this. You went through something really difficult. With time it will lessen
watingroom2 · 12/06/2021 00:49

My first birth was similar - it became the thing of my nightmares - I couldn't watch call the midwife for years - due to being so traumatised

I decided if I had another child I would not go to hospital - had a home birth with my son and it was so much better (much better midwife care - felt far more in control and my body knew what to do .. I was surprised) ..

Birth is truly hideous - and I felt it was more taboo to talk about than many other topics (including periods and menopause) ..

I guess I wanted you to know that you are not alone :)

Jellybabiesforbreakfast · 12/06/2021 00:50

I'm sorry you had such a horrible time Flowers.

Childbirth in this country is a pretty brutal experience. Denying women pain relief is common.

So is not keeping women properly informed of what's going on. I ended up with my legs in stirrups when I'd said I wanted to be free to move about and no one properly told me what was happening. I still don't know to this day why it was necessary. There were some issues while I was pushing and people wandered in and out and poked their fingers into me (including male doctors) without even talking to me. They talked over my head as if I wasn't there. I believe that's quite common.

I think part of the reason the brutality of birth is underplayed is because women are required to go straight from having given birth (often after days of painful labour) to parenting a newborn with minimal support when they're battered, torn, exhausted and frail. If the trauma of giving birth was properly acknowledged, postnatal wards would have to be much better staffed to help women recover. It's easier and cheaper just to tell exhausted, blood-soaked mothers to get on with it and stop moaning.

elliejjtiny · 12/06/2021 01:22

I'm so sorry OP. My last birth started off very similar to yours. I can't give birth like that, I need peace and to be allowed to move around. I ended up with sepsis and an emergency c-section. I was lucky that the midwives and Drs were all really kind but I wish I'd been told beforehand what a high risk monitored induction would be like and that the interventions would make my labour slower and more painful.

EarlGreywithLemon · 12/06/2021 02:29

I’m so sorry to hear OP! I had a difficult birth too - failed ventouse, forceps, episiotomy, 3b tear, and lost 2.3l of blood. Our daughter was back to back then half turned, and the registrar said afterwards that I was probably having a placental abruption. I had no end of urinary problems afterwards too, probably because of a bruised and traumatised bladder. A few things I thought, at the time and since:

  • The attitude of your midwife and medical staff can make the difference between a good and traumatic experience. The first midwife I had on antenatal (I was induced) sounds like yours. Cold, dismissive, patronising. I was screaming the place down in absolute agony and she was insisting I couldn’t have an epidural until my waters had broken (turns out I could and did). The midwives and two registrars who looked after me when I was moved to the labour ward couldn’t have been more different - like night and day. They were absolutely lovely, and what should have been a traumatic experience on paper wasn’t, because of them.
  • I don’t think I was under any illusions about giving birth at all. I did my research, spoke to friends who’d had difficult experiences (the vast majority of them!) and was prepared for what could go wrong. My birth plan was largely a request for an early epidural. I was fairly calm and pragmatic about it, and chose the labour ward over the midwife led unit because I find monitoring etc. hugely reassuring. I was so relieved to be put on the monitor and know the registrar was keeping an eye out, as I felt I was now under control and we were both safer. But even so, I was shocked by how brutal birth is, the level of pain, during and after, and the level of physical trauma involved. It felt like war time in the trenches. Support from the staff is beyond important to get through that. You didn’t get that and you have every reason to complain. Don’t accept the poor treatment of the midwives as normal - I don’t think any of us should, not least for the sake of other women giving birth who will otherwise continue to have the same traumatic experiences.
-Most of my friends were supportive and very kind after the birth, except for one who was very dismissive, and I know how upsetting that was, especially in my then fragile state. Hugs OP, and I’m so sorry you went through all this! It really shouldn’t have to be like that, for anyone.
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