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Reasons for not breastfeeding in public

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DitaVonCheese · 12/04/2009 14:10

A discussion on another forum I frequent has got me thinking and I'd love to hear some other people's views. If you didn't/don't breastfeed in public (or if you do but are nervous), is it because you're worried about showing too much, or anxious about being told off by a security guard/interfering old bat/unenlightened male, or for some other reason I've missed?

When I first started I was worried about getting told off but now would probably quite happily cause a scene if necessary I think now I'd be more annoyed if someone just kept tutting but didn't actually say anything, so I'd end up being annoyed all day rather than letting rip!

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sasamaxx · 18/04/2009 21:57

Ouch!

sasamaxx · 18/04/2009 22:01

What about the determination to show your entire breast to the world by doing the let-go-and-lean-back-suddenly-while-simultaneously-pushing-top-up maneouvre. Preferably while you're holding the phone in one hand and holding them in the other so are helpless to protect your modesty

TBM · 18/04/2009 22:08

I don't mind feeding anywhere, I'm not worried about how much I show. However last week I was feeding in church during our Easter play, sat near the back on an aisle seat because I was late, one of the characters ran to the back of the room and the spot light followed and I suddenly found myself lit up with all eyes on me! As happy as I am to breastfeed I wouldn't want to do it on the stage in the middle of the church service and that's pretty much what I did!

ruthosaurus · 19/04/2009 23:13

TBM:

Mind you, I bet Mary breastfed Jesus for ages. But it would have been more appropriate in the middle of the Nativity, no?

My LO has started patting me on the boob quite loudly, a bit like a tiny baby slap. How do you train a baby not to do that? Also, today he was blowing rasberries, slurping and grinning - milk is apparently now hilarious. As is my face when he does that. Bless.

sandjandp · 20/04/2009 14:00

Quite frankly don't give a monkeys what people think! Animals do it in public so why can't we!?!

chipmonkey · 20/04/2009 21:07

As far as I know, there was no Cow and Gate available in Bethlehem at the time.

sasamaxx · 20/04/2009 22:50

Maybe we should get custom made vests or t shirts for babies, emblazoned with 'Breastfed - like Jesus!' across the front... lol

TBM · 21/04/2009 00:46

No there wasn't but I wonder if Mary would have sat on the stage during a service breastfeeding an uncooperative baby? Actually probably wouldn't have bothered her because it was just what you did, unlike now!

It reminds me of the story of an American doctor working in Iraq (or somewhere similar) he walked into a maternity ward and all the women very quickly covered up...

their faces!

Breastfeeding, fine. Face, not so. Whilst I would't want to be in a place where covering my face was normal, I would like to be a place where breastfeeding is as normal as that.

BonzoDoodah · 21/04/2009 13:49

I love that story about the ladies covering up their faces! Great!

My mum had a terrible time when she had me. She was struggling to BF me on the big open maternity ward (in the days when they kept you in for a week) but not in visiting hours. She was finding it really difficult anyway ... but one of the nurses came in - saw what she was doing (trying to BF) and said " have you NO shame!" and slammed the curtains shut round the bed. So much for the liberal 60s!
And thank goodness times have changed.

ruthosaurus · 21/04/2009 20:32

Hear hear. I get encouraging glances from old men but then I will bf in the pub...

juanitad · 22/04/2009 09:47

I'm not massivelt confident about bfing in public, but am meeting a friend today at a playground and it will be time to feed DS while I'm there, so I guess I'll just have to bite the bullet so to speak!! At least it's a sunny day so hopefully won't be too cold on the old nips!

MrsHD · 22/04/2009 10:01

I have no worries about BF in public per se, but I have a let-down like a fire hydrant, so when DS decides he's going to be fussy because although he's hungry there's something terribly interesting going on over there, yep, just crane my neck a bit further round to the right, oh sod, let go Mummy's chewing gum nipple, hey, look at that, that milk's spraying a pretty impressive distance. Way to go Mummy! Milk sprays over anyone within a 10m radius, which can be a bit embarrassing, not to mention the drippy marks all down me

ruthosaurus · 22/04/2009 22:59

Mine was fussy in Ikea today, so lots of people got the whole view. Plus, he managed to get the left one partially out while feeding from the right one (sorry if TMI). Again. I need a better bra.

Never go to Ikea with a stomach bug, a MIL on crutches and a grumpy, hungry, hot, tired, bored baby... In fact, kill me now.

Samantha28 · 22/04/2009 23:38

"What about the determination to show your entire breast to the world ...maneouvre. Preferably while you're holding the phone in one hand and holding them in the other so are helpless to protect your modesty shock"

Clearly i don't go to the right places as i have NEVER in my life seen a woman BF in "public" showing her entire breast.Is this an urban myth? Y'know, like the one about the woman verbally abused for bottle feeding her baby when she has had a double mastectomy?

Onestonetogo · 23/04/2009 00:09

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ruthosaurus · 23/04/2009 09:52

I have yet to have an in-law say how wonderful it is that I'm still bfing at 5.5 months. They all think DS should have been weaned onto weetabix and baby rice at about 3 months. I cannot tell you how much I love hearing sentences which start "Well, when I had our Sally"... Our Sally is 41 and thinks she can psychically communicate with cats and dogs. This does not make me want to take my in-laws' parenting advice.

Poledra · 23/04/2009 12:32

Samantha, the poster is referring to when your baby decides to expose your breast for you, by pushing your top up with their hand, and unlatching and leaning back at the same time. usually done, as she says, when your other hand is occupied so you can't cover yourself up.

Samantha28 · 23/04/2009 14:15

oh i SEE poledra , that explains it . i wondered if i needed to get out more

ruth - maybe if sally had been bf/for longer things would be different . someone should do a study

Debs75 · 23/04/2009 17:54

Only got to page 10 but have to comment.
All this rubbish about 'extended breastfeeders' putting mums with newborns off really is utter crap. If a mum is feeding a 2 year old she didn't just start yesterday. She will have gone through all the cluster feeding, cracked nipples, spurting nipples etc that a new mum has to cope with. Instead of being off=putting she is a fountain of knowledge and proves how you can bf for as long as you want.
My mum didn't bf and she was around loads of bfeeders, therfore me and my sis didn't have much experience of bf yet we tried and succeeded. we looked for help wherever we could get it. My gran at 77 was a great help (done it 5 times)
When dd1 was 8 weeks i went to a support group and 1 mum was tandem feeding a 10 week and a 2 year old. she inspired me and had loads of advice on breast feeding in general. She was a great advert for breast feeding and i learnt more from her then i did the other new mums.

I don't come from a deprived area but was living in one when dd1 was born and was quite shocked at how many other mums bottle fed, considering it is free, best for baby and in the long run easier.
I do hope that when dd1 has children it will be the norm again.

Debs75 · 23/04/2009 18:17

finally got to the end and the tone of the thread has changed completely.(could it be the absence of sleepless??)

Ruth I had a 'gold top' comment once and from an old man in the pub. weird

TBM what you sais a few pages back about discreetness is so true. you cant please everyone.

ruthosaurus · 23/04/2009 19:44

NB - Our Sally was fed by teaspoon from a week old as she wouldn't tolerate bottle or breast. Fair enough, but a bit like looking after a baby lamb, I should imagine.

Kezzabell · 28/04/2009 09:23

Hi

I am a new mother of 33 to a 3 week old. I have been reading a lot of bfing threads as I have been having problems and have wanted to get as much idea of other people?s experiences and advice as possible.

I was very interested in the debate going on in this thread. I am of the discreet bfing in public opinion. Mostly because I do not really want other people to see my breasts. I still consider my breasts very much part of my sexual identity and as such I don?t really want just anyone to get an eyeful. At present I still feel very inept at bfing, and have difficulty sometimes getting my son latched on as he can get very over excited and wave his head around so much that passers by are more likely to get sprayed by milk than my son is to actually get it in his mouth. That said I have breast fed in a café in Kingston, with my back to the café, but my boob to the window! Fleeting glimpses from people walking past apparently being more comfortable for me than sustained exposure to others in the café. This possibly deranged attitude of mine was borne out on Friday at a wedding, where I went off to a quiet room to feed my son, and due to the type of dress I was wearing I had to get the whole top down to be able to feed. 5 minutes after I got son latched on, in walked the DJ getting a fantastic view of very engorged breast, out he walked again must to my amusement at his embarrassment. However, if it had been one of my friends or colleagues that had walked in, I would have been the one to feel humiliated. I also find that I feel very uncomfortable feeding in front of family ? even in front of my sister who bf both her sons very well (although that could be the competitive nature of our relationship and me feeling insecure about how I am doing). So maybe this has a lot to do with the fact that for the most part, you?re not going to see strangers again and have the knowledge that they HAVE SEEN YOUR BREASTS shock horror! But this also extrapolates to me not wanting to see a lot of breast of others who are bfing. I think it?s great to see others bfing, and encouraging for me, but it does make me uncomfortable to see lots of boob and nipple on show before a baby gets latched on.

Someone earlier mentioned that why was it a problem when you get topless pictures on page 3 in the rags. Maybe when it?s no longer acceptable to have so much over sexualised nudity in the press, which among other things can make women feel insecure, then for me I won?t be so embarrassed as I will not associate boobs just with the sex theme that is promoted in media and our culture, and I will not feel insecure that my breasts are not the perfect perky shape. So yes, more bfing in public may help change public opinion and what is deemed acceptable, but I think that whilst boobs are promoted in culture as only sexual objects, this will be difficult. I don?t think people are ashamed of boobs per se, but embarrassed by the sexual side of them. Myself included!

As to the other debate that almost took over the thread for a while, Tiktok asked a question whether or not a new mother would be put off by extended bfing. Whilst I have said I am encouraged to see bfing in public, I have to admit I am thinking of people bfing babies as that is what I currently identify with. I can?t identify with the concept of extended bfing, although that may well change in the coming months, depending on what decisions I make regarding feeding my son. But, at the moment, I think I would find it offputting. Logically I realise that if I sought advice from someone feeding a toddler, surely it?s sodding obvious that they have managed to bf successfully and consistently and therefore will know what they are talking about. However at the same time I don?t think that at this stage I am thinking particularly logically as this whole bf malarkey is very emotional and stressful and I would quite likely think that only someone who is going through it right now, or has just gone through it, could possibly understand. I realise at times like now that this is a totally dumb way of looking at things, but when I have been sitting on my sofa crying my eyes out at trying to get Hayden to feed for more than a couple of minutes, when I feel like a failure and want to just walk away and give up, I am not capable of rationalising this.

I hope I haven?t rambled on too much, and that my response is of interest to some of you!

tiktok · 28/04/2009 09:28

Kezzabell, don't apologise for your post! I think you have a really interesting level of insight and understanding into your own feelings and into the whole social aspect of breastfeeding and breastfeeding support, and when I checked back to the start of your post to see how old your baby was, I was amazed to see only three weeks!

You should think seriously about becoming a trained breastfeeding supporter at some stage.

For breastfeeding support including all the aspects you write about, you can call any of the breastfeeding helplines.

Debs75 · 28/04/2009 15:01

Kezzabell Grerat post and you sound really level-headed which is what this thread needs. Good luck with the bf, 3 weeks is a hard time. Constant feeding no real routine. It does get easier I promise.

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