GMTV about to present findings of their breast vs bottle survey..... 8.55

[Jackstini]

Article here... www.gm.tv/index.cfm?articleid=33217

Lovely balanced article there.

Dr Hilary Jones is such a massive knob!

What was wrong with that?

'Modern formula milk, teats, and other equipment are already making bottle feeding much closer to 'the real thing' than ever before. ' from a doctor, that opinion is worrying

Hmm. I'm not sure that what he wrote there warrants Dr. Hilary being called a massive knob .

Interesting that all the women who chose to bottlefeed were all bottlefed themselves. Just shows the influence of family and environment.

why is that wrong? if he had said that formula was a mirror of breastmilk then that would be wrong but he didn't. He said that formula is closer to the real thing than it has previously been which is probably true. Most likely research is ongoing to try to make formula milk as close to breastmilk as possible. No-one said formula was as good as breastmilk.

Nah - Dr Jones already confirmed my opinion of him as a massive knob here. "Dr Hilary Jones believes that breastfeeding should not be extended. He said: "After the age of one breast feeding is bizarre, unusual and not necessary. After a year the mother gets more out of breastfeeding than the child does. This act is more for the mother's comfort than the baby's. The bonding process is over and nutritionally the baby no longer needs the milk."

Twunt.

they didn't say though how many of the women who breastfed had been breast or bottle fed. A generation ago bottle feeding was much more common than breastfeeding so it stands to reason that a higher proportion of women will have been bottle fed.

It will be interesting to compare these statistics in generations to come as breastfeeding becomes more prevalent.

Breast milk and formula maybe 'closer' than before but are still miles apart in terms of nutritional an immunological factors. They will never be able to replicate breast milk. If there was a chance they would have done it already.

i just watched this on LK.
Love how they made out that all FFers are made to feel bad because they FF by the eeeeevil health workers and militant BFers..

Seriously. they should hang out where I live for a while. Trust me, it's not like that here. (where some of the maternity nurses will slip a thing of formula in your bag 'just in case')

Another incisive interview by Lorraine

Extended feeding is bizarre? Oh OK then. until it's illegal I'm happy to be bizarre if it means my baby ahs the best I can offer.

Twunt.

And yes purle I thought that ab out the meanie hcps. Boof crigging hoo, if you ant to FF fine (heck I have done with other babies once past 2 weeks, and mixed fed) but theya re health workers: not pussyfoot workers. Their job imo is to promote the WHO guidelines.

If a Mum makes the decision to FF great givce encouragement, good advice but its an alternative to the healthiest choice (for most of course there are exceptions) not the healthiest

Oh super, glad I missed that then.

(Proud to be bizarre and unusual)

I must be thick, i didn't find the article said anything i didn't already know (im good at working things out for myself me!) but it presented both sides. And i agree bottle feeding mums are made to feel bad - I breast fed for six months but had to mix feed as i was poorly with gallstones and it affected my milk supply. BUT i would be less embarrased to get my breasts out in public than i was to bottle feed as i could feel the penetrative stares of other mothers boring into my head. Also, the whole attitude of "oh, you poor thing, you had to give up and bottle feed" is annoying too - i remember a woman who battled with BF at baby clinic, i think the other women's patronising attitude stopped her from coming again when she switched to FF.

Oh, i didn't realise he said that about the extended BF - i will add to the chant of TWUNT TWUNT TWUNT!! I am of mothers who extend BF, i probably think that it is actually an emotional/comfort thing after a year, when a child can be weaned onto cows milk, but SO WHAT - if i could have done it, i would have! I think emotional/comfort are actually as important as nutritional factors.

I agree about comfort being important (but would love to be able to wegive my baby cows milk- he's high riosk of ASD and casein iontol so BM by far a better option imo than synthetic second best shite)

(cows as a in food choice, adore being abe to BF him after 2 give ups and one mixed experience)

I agree peachy, it is great that you are still giving him your milk, you are making TONS of difference to his health - but then you knew that alread . LEM wistfully admires ladies who extend BF, although i guess at 3.5 i would be pushing it a little with DD.

"Most women who responded said, that there first choice was to breast feed"

And the punctuation!!!! [cries]

Oh thanks Dr Hilary - I have been trying to persuade my employers NOT to send me on a week's residential course at the other end of the country when I return from maternity leave (when baby is 1) as I will still be bfing as per WHO requirements - your comments will be so helpful! You do hear a lot of comments about bfing past a year not being necessary, but this is the most extreme attitude I have come across from a health care professional - I would suggest that it's his comments and attitude that are bizarre.

'Most women who responded said, that there first choice was to breast feed but due to complications they had to bottle feed their new born babies. The difficulties mentioned were problems with latching on, fears the baby wasn't getting enough food, not enough help and support and not producing enough milk.'

inordinately sad but wht we have been saying here for years

The reasons to ff portio9n control intrigued me: are weturning our young people into a nation obsessed with dietary control?

of course women who bottle feed are made to feel inferior. No-one would dare start a thread on mn about the pro's of bottle feeding without being either jumped on for daring to suggest any good about the bottle or being a troll. And admitting that you "could't" breastfeed is certainly not greeted with any kind of support on mn. I was once told that i was mistaken that I hadn't produced milk, despite the fact i was actually there at the time and the well-meaning poster wasn't.

Could we report him to the GMC? En masse?

I'll sign up Georgi.

Wannabe I did feel inferior when FF but you know what milk wise FF is inferior except for people like yourself with genuine problems. Other problems are still shite and its the fault of lack of support not the Mum but yes ultimately the milk is inferior.

I cant stick the way FF mums get flamed when asking for advice bt then I make my MN living going on threads lately and saying be nic to the OP we don't know the circs: sadly jumping on seems to MN de riguer. crap, isn't it?

Well, this is the GMC's protocol for doctors (or part of it) and I think with that statement he is in breach of it:

Good Medical Practice (2006)
The duties of a doctor registered with the General Medical Council
Patients must be able to trust doctors with their lives and health. To justify that trust you must show respect for human life and you must:

Make the care of your patient your first concern

Protect and promote the health of patients and the public

Provide a good standard of practice and care

Keep your professional knowledge and skills up to date

Recognise and work within the limits of your competence

Work with colleagues in the ways that best serve patients' interests

Treat patients as individuals and respect their dignity

Treat patients politely and considerately

Respect patients' right to confidentiality

Work in partnership with patients

Listen to patients and respond to their concerns and preferences

Give patients the information they want or need in a way they can understand

Respect patients' right to reach decisions with you about their treatment and care

Support patients in caring for themselves to improve and maintain their health

Be honest and open and act with integrity

Act without delay if you have good reason to believe that you or a colleague may be putting patients at risk

Never discriminate unfairly against patients or colleagues

Never abuse your patients' trust in you or the public's trust in the profession.

You are personally accountable for your professional practice and must always be prepared to justify your decisions and actions.

I'm going to complain about him. I think he is a twunt.