GMTV about to present findings of their breast vs bottle survey..... 8.55

[Jackstini]

Article here... www.gm.tv/index.cfm?articleid=33217

Ninky, it's ok, I get what you mean!! It was all very funny, in his bit of the article he is very damning of Natural Term Breastfeeding, but to my face he was terribley pleasant and polite about it all. It does worry me when I hear him giving advice about other medical issues now, if he can give advice on bf that goes against the guidelines of the WHO, NHS and DoH, what other duff advice is he giving?

When we recorded the program he was very keen on having me come back to do more, webchats etc, but for some reason they haven't been back in touch........

StayFrosty said "Wow, Hilary Jones knows better than the WHO? Woman's-name-having twat."

I loled

That thought also occured to me GreenMonkies- I happen to know bf beyond a year is beneficial and the physiological norm, not 'bizarre' and some sort of sex evasion tactic (!!!) but I might not know very much at all about the next topic he spouts forth on.

However I am unlikely to really have very much faith in any of his musings now!

Dr Hilary added: "Women breastfeed their children for longer for a variety of reasons. It can be to avoid renewing sexual relations with their partners

How on earth did I manage to get pregnant with dd while still breastfeeding ds? Obviously I wasn't supposed to be havung a sex life!!

Yes, the avoiding sex thing doesn't wash, considering the number of tandem nursers I know!!! And if you are avoiding having sex with your husband then there is something wrong with your marriage, stopping bf won't solve that, the real reason you're avoiding sex will still be there.

Agreed, GreenMonkies. What about the women who always have a headache when their partners try to initiate sex? They'll still avoid it, even if they take Anadin

I hate to go off topic but apparently there has been research done and sex can actually cure a headache....

www.scienceagogo.com/news/19990622022254data_trunc_sys.shtml

Wow Greenmonkies...you're still breastfeeding!

(Not supposed to sound like you're STILL breastfeeding!!).

Hats off to you.

Charliegal, thanks, yes, we are still going, DD1 is almost five and a half (and I confess I am starting to nudge her towards weaning, as much as anything because we are getting bunkbeds soon, and I draw the line at climbing up onto the top bunk to nurse her off to sleep!) and DD2 is now just over two and a half, so she has a couple more years of boobing ahead of her yet I guess. Sometimes I have visions of nursing them when they are in High School!!

You never imagine that you will continue so long, eh. DS is 27 months but I can't imagine how it's all going to end, if you know what I mean.

Well done for showing up Dr Jones. I wish he would stop spouting his ill advised views on national tv.

oh I am , , at all those that succeed to bf truely extended...
I think it is brill...
I really wanted to do this wiht ms and ys...but well...my lonest was 13 month...just didn't work out for us, I guess...dummyusers, wicked children (well, ms was a bit wicked...thinking it was hilarious to bite mummy every feed and laughing when I was crying...) and very sensible ( me being all worried about biting due to previous experience and sensitive nips...and ys biting and me crying out...all it took to put him off ) )
Breastfeeding is such an amazing experience...I don't think it can be described in words really...because well...there are no words for it...and if you try to find words, than you probably end p offending someone else...

Well, I have just read that Dr Hilary Jones apparently had sex with his wife 2 hours post partum so I would count that as "bizarre, unusual and not necessary".

[Freak emoticon]

His wife clearly wasn't able to avoid renewing sexual relations with him!

[wince]

2 hours post partum?

Surely he'd know that you should wait 6 weeks or until the bleeding stops because of infection risk?

I remember reading about an affair he had when his wife was either pregnant with or newly delivered of thier twins........

Read all this with interest. Got to go though - my three year old is trying to bond with me over some lego. What a freak. I've told him his bonding is now complete and he is ready to get a job.

Blimey I had no idea I was extended breastfeeding so I could avoid shagging my husband!

Maybe that's his experience but then I wouldn't want to sleep with such a bigoted twat!

I respect the right of mums to formula feed if that's what they choose, I respect the right of breastfeeders to do this too - what a stupid bloody survey though - totally biased (as you'd expect from the programme).

Shame on them!

lol NJB, those toddlers just do not give up do they?

Have told DD what Dr Hilary says. She says **

well that sounds more intelligent than what he usually has to say

how many here have complained to gmtv? i did, stupid ill informed idiot.

Saying that babies in the developed world don't need the immune system benefits of bf is very simplistic IMO.

Yes, a baby in Milton Keynes is less vulnerable to cholera because they have access to clean water, and less vulnerable to pneumonia because they have access to antibiotics.

But that's not the whole immunity story by a long chalk. Your immune system has to be perfectly and precisely balanced because if it isn't, you're at risk not just of infection, but also of a host of autoimmune and inflammatory diseases - typically, the diseases of the Western World. (Heart disease, for example, is now recognised to be an inflammatory disease.)

It seems that your risk of all these conditions is at least partly determined by your early life growth and nutrition - this is known as the "programming effect". I was having a look round the literature the other day and there's a lot of research interest in the way that breastfeeding directs the maturation of the immune system.

I think we (as a society) hugely underestimate breastfeeding.

...am still lol-ing at "Woman's-name-having twat."

Oh, he's a twunt, of course he is. He has a long string of previous on un-Doctorly pronouncements on BF and loves himself something rotten. Can't quite believe the story about him having sex 2 hours after his wife gave birth - why on earth would she let him anywhere near her?? Takes all sorts, I suppose.

I bond, in a way, every time DS feeds, and can't imagine that this will magically change in a couple of weeks, when he turns one.