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Common racist comments you hear in 2023?

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SleepDreamThinkHuge · 28/04/2023 06:48

Compared to 30 years ago, how is racism different today?

For me, racism terms such as the n word p word are less used than they were 30 years ago. However, people have looked at other avenues. See comments below.

  1. "You have a chip over your shoulder" every time someone mentions racism or their lived experience it goes straight to denial mode. You are blamed for your lived experiences and told to get over it and how UK is not racist.

  2. "The UK abolished slavery. slavery was a long time ago." Every time someone tries to put forward a view of reparations of people who are still suffering from the effects of slavery they are shut down. "that was a long time ago we have changed and evolved."

  3. "I feel like a foreigner in my own country." Which is probably one of the most stupid statements considering that over 80 percent of the population is white. I always answer if you feel like a foreigner how do minorities feel?

  4. "name the racists" commonly said for Megan Markle that she should name the racists she claimed in the Royal family. But lets be honest if you did that the other person in whatever circumstance would just deny it and ultimately you will not be believed and be called someone who plays the race card and tarnishing other people's careers.

  5. "Why do black people have their own spaces if white people had it we would be accused of racism" This is commonly said by the same people who are not as vocal when other groups have their own space e.g. women, LGBT groups etc.. It just seems like whenever black people have their own space people have to put them down. Take Ngozi Fulani the media made it seem she was the bad person people argued why her charity helps black people suffering from domestic abuse. Sad how she was forced out Sistah Space due to the abuse she faced but the media never mention that and the racism she had to face.

  6. "Racism exists in all communities" this is another common one used and is a whataboutery technique. We have seen this with people like Kanye, KSI recently but what people forget there was a lot of criticism from the black community with their actions. So to suggest the black community or any other community does not do anything about racism is for the birds.

  7. "My best friend is black" This is something you would hear from the EDL or Britain First. But you would be surprised how often you hear this by a lot of people. Just because your friend or relative is black, Muslim, Asian etc does not mean you cannot be racist. Even if you are a white mother and your child is mixed race does not mean you cannot be racist. It is baffling how a lot of people seem to forget this and think that my saying I cannot be racist because of this automatically means they cannot.

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Desperatelyseekingcommonsense · 08/05/2023 23:27

Emmamoo89 · 08/05/2023 20:03

To saying to having a Chinese is not being racist.

I don’t think so either. I mean it’s probably insulting to people who cook authentic Chinese food in the same way Italians are insulted by Domino’s. I don’t think it’s racist though. A quick Google says British Chinese food is mainly Cantonese adapted for the local market.

Ineedwinenow · 09/05/2023 00:02

Hi , I hope it’s ok to post, I’m white but married into an East Asian family.

My nephew got beaten up badly at school in his country as he wasn’t “Asian” enough , (white dad, East Asian mum so he has typical East Asian features but a little paler ) and the bullying is still a big problem now despite the school getting involved! It’s been going on since he was young and he’s now a senior at his school

When they fly over to the UK to see us, people they meet out and about talk slowly to them and ask my SIL and DN if they understand! They speak perfect English ffs, yes they have an accent but they understand us perfectly fine and still carry on doing it even when they know this 🤦‍♀️

I’ve been asked to translate when we’ve been out somewhere as a family and then the person asking gets all huffy when they speak perfect English

Apparently they should be able to cook sweet and sour chicken balls and get the piss taken out of them regularly when here ( the usual unfunny Chinese food jokes people say to them)

Wheres their camera?

Are they part of a gang?

Do they eat Pangolins

Theres many more but this is just a snapshot of what I’ve witnessed, I’m so sorry you all experience racism in your day to day life! Because my family “look” Asian they get it all the time here when they visit so it must be very difficult for you to live it daily xx

LBFseBrom · 09/05/2023 05:32

Of course it's OK to post, it's good to have different perspectives.

I am appalled at the way your nephew has been spoken to; feel embarrassed and ashamed about the 'jokes' (I don't get the relevance of the 'camera'). One would hope we'd have moved on from that sort of thing but that is obviously wishful thinking on my part.

AAAAABBBBBCCCCC · 09/05/2023 06:21

There's a thread in aibu about the slave trade and what would Britain be mow if it hadn't have happened. A lot of gaslighting ln the thread..

Ineedwinenow · 09/05/2023 07:34

LBFseBrom · 09/05/2023 05:32

Of course it's OK to post, it's good to have different perspectives.

I am appalled at the way your nephew has been spoken to; feel embarrassed and ashamed about the 'jokes' (I don't get the relevance of the 'camera'). One would hope we'd have moved on from that sort of thing but that is obviously wishful thinking on my part.

Thank you x it’s used to be a stereotypical joke that Asians carried camera around with them all the time! (Similar the when they used to say French wear garlic around their necks and wear berets) I genuinely don’t get it but people still say stupid shit like that even now!

Also regarding the Pangolin comment, they came over just after the pangolin documentary was shown here so people were horrified they were Asian looking and kept going on and on about the bloody documentary to them and how they are single handily destroying the planet because of their food choices and use of Chinese medicine and do they know they are encouraging animal trafficking ( people got really irate with them over this) I’m not really sure that’s classed at racism but people were awful to them over it, they’re south Asian and not from China and genuinely had never seen a pangolin or knew about the issue but I noted it down as they got shouted a lot over it at one point! They were mortified

They get called slit eyed, been blamed for Covid, told to go home as there’s already too many chinkies here and lots more throw away comments like that!

The UK is very multicultural country we are very lucky, and the culture that has bought is ingrained in British life now but it’s a shame some of it’s people haven’t moved on, can I ask is it white people that insult you or all races ( in my family it’s shamefully just white but other races have been know to comment too!)

LadyKenya · 09/05/2023 09:01

That all sounds really hard@Ineedwinenow for your poor nephews. Incidents like that happening will take its toll on them unfortunately. I despair sometimes about how some people treat other people. The stereotyping is awful.

LBFseBrom · 09/05/2023 09:50

Ineedwinenow, thanks for your reply.

I am white, English.

It's possible I experienced racism when I was younger but, generally, not. I probably would if I went abroad to live. I don't think the British, English particularly, are all that popular. It makes me feel ashamed that so many white people in this country are racist, often subtly, sometimes unconsciously. I've witnessed it often, and prejudice against some religions. It depresses me. One thing I always hated was when a fellow white Brit would smilingly say something racist to me in a friendly, confiding way, as if it was assumed I agreed. As a younger person I often didn't understand what they meant.

I remember during covid people saying they wouldn't buy any more Chinese takeaways and students of vaguely Chinese appearance being subject to abuse. How ignorant can you get! I must tell you, if only to give you a laugh, that a pub landlord local to me posted on facebook that he was taking a stand against Russia by no longer stocking or serving Smirnoff vodka - Smirnoff is owned and produced by a British company!

Before Brexit, politicians such as Farage and, to a point, Boris Johnson, whipped up the anti with regard to EU nationals working here. It was funny when he had to import some Eastern European folk to help with harvest during covid. The other victims of racism are refugees and asylum seekers, especially those who risk their lives and pay good money to exploiters who facilitate travelling here in small boats. There's little compassion, few seem to stop and try to imagine walking in their shoes. The exception is Ukranians who have been welcomed.

There is of course racism between other races, I've heard that too but most of it comes from white. Many people dislike Jews, always have. David Baddiel did a marvellous documentary for channel 4 recently on the subject of antisemitism (specifically anti-Jewish); I've watched it twice and highly recommend: David Baddiel Jews Don't Count.

You know all this already, Ineedwine, you are British so apologies if I am teaching my grandmother to suck eggs (I hope that isn't ageist :)); metaphorically of course as I'm in my early seventies :-).

I have a very close relative who travels a lot for work. He tells me how it is in some states of America. He has an American colleague, lovely lady nearer to my age who is black. They often have to attend functions and he has said that people will talk to and ask questions of him but completely look through her, as if she doesn't exist. I find that so difficult though she says she is used to it. New York, where she has her home, is great. When they are working over here and in Europe, people clamour to meet her.

It is better here than in some places but there's no point in being complacent, we have to sort out our own house. It starts with children who have acute hearing and take on board things they hear the adults say.

I could go on all day but will stop now as I have no wish to bore. Cheers and thanks for explaining about the cameras. I had never noticed that but probably will now. I presume it applies to tourists - don't all tourists carry cameras, not just Chinese?

HadalyEve · 09/05/2023 12:40

@Ineedwinenow yes that is racism and so sorry your family goes through that.

@LBFseBrom interesting you mention the USA and differences between states. I have been a few times on holiday/business. In NYC it wasn’t too bad, pretty normal feeling but one thing that shocked me was in Charlotte, NC. I got on a lift in the hotel on the 4th floor and all the white people already in the lift, immediately got off the lift, so I had it to myself. I thought, very strange they all were coming down to the 4th floor. I go eat breakfast and then go to the lifts to go up, brush my teeth and grab my work bag. I’m waiting and lift arrives and I get on and the white people who were also waiting, I hold the door and say…aren’t you getting on? They looked at me like I had sprouted two heads and one said “we will take the next one”. That when I realised Ah, this must be that famous southern USA racism, because it clicked.

I mentioned it to a local at my business meeting, and they said it’s common for many white people to just not share a lift with Black people and it’s just ignored. What can you do? Insist they get on or stay on a lift?

I have to say that first morning in Charlotte NC really made me on edge for the entirety of that trip.

LooseFit · 09/05/2023 12:51

I hear a lot of ‘white lives matter too’ type comments from people who ‘aren’t racist but…’. I think it’s the new way of being able to express racism in the bane of equality (misunderstanding what equality actually means).

My teen DD is mixed race and she gets a lot of shit on social media from white and black people.

‘Stop begging black’
’Youre not black so you don’t have an opinion on black issues’
’Why do you support BLM? You’re not even black’

  • list of nasty misogynistic ‘why do light skin girls think they’re so nice?’ Type nonsense.

Shes a tough cookie and gives few fucks, but it feels like not much has changed in 2023. People are more likely to deliver their racism disguised as faux concern for the country etc in RL, and on social media they still let rip in the most basic, aggressive manner as racists of yesteryear.

LooseFit · 09/05/2023 12:51

Bane = name of equality

debbrianna · 09/05/2023 17:33

"All lives matter."

debbrianna · 09/05/2023 17:36

My favourite, " why can't say the N-word if you use in music videos? " My question is, what benefit is the N-word to or your usage of it?

DojaPhat · 09/05/2023 18:40

I don't know about anyone else but David Baddiel is to anti-racism work what a double cheeseburger is to a weight-loss plan.

LadyKenya · 09/05/2023 19:27

DojaPhat · 09/05/2023 18:40

I don't know about anyone else but David Baddiel is to anti-racism work what a double cheeseburger is to a weight-loss plan.

The problem with DB is the fact that he donned a pineapple, and ghastly fake locs, and blackface to parody a black footballer, Jason Lee. Causing Mr Lee pain, humiliation, and having to endure comments arising from what DB did. Quite rightly DB will call out anti-semitism, it is unfortunate that he was not so charitable to Jason Lee, by not only causing him pain, but taking many years to even acknowledge the pain he had caused.

Ineedwinenow · 09/05/2023 19:29

You all suffer in your daily lives! I’m so sorry for you all, I see it with my nephew a few times a year so I can’t imagine what you go through, as a white woman with Asian family I don’t see their skin , it’s just my family but I genuinely am not sure if I have ever been unconscious bias towards other races without realising it but your experiences really have made me sit up and reassess my actions xx

ArianahX · 09/05/2023 19:38

I think there is still plenty of overt racism too, maybe Brexit has made racist people feel emboldened.
My cousin's husband is Nigerian and they live with their two children in the small town where she grew up.

He was knocked unconscious outside a small supermarket, he remembered being racially abused beforehand by the man who hit him.
The local Police said they were committed to finding the perpetrator but strangely could not locate any cctv footage from this well lit place full of cameras.

On the official day of the Uk leaving the EU, my cousin was informed by anonymous letter that her husband was no longer welcome to park in his usual space near their council flat!! He's taken no notice of the letter (my cousin says it's probably someone they often get racial abuse from) but it leaves a bad taste.

It also makes you understand just how thick some racists actually are. I mean, Nigeria is not even in Europe so why they think Brexit would affect my cousins husband I don't know!!

My own family are mostly White European but have another ethnic background mixed in on my dads side so some of my family members are of a mixed race appearance, particularly my younger sister.
Now you would think that shouldn't be an issue but again in our small town area growing up it was awful for her in our small town and for anyone else who stood out as of a mixed or different ethnicity.
I thought moving to a large town would be an end it but 25 years later, Brexit happens, and a man on the beach tells her "go back to your own country".

Thick twat.

Nothing ever changes does it!!

ArianahX · 09/05/2023 19:41

Ps I hope no one minded that I commented, I just feel very strongly that racism is definitely still a problem as I hear and see things. And challenge things when I can too.

LadyKenya · 09/05/2023 19:48

You are right @ArianahX . Racism is still a massive problem. Your cousin's husband being attacked like that is just awful. It is not a surprise to hear that the Police were ineffective. It is hard having to deal with racism.

DojaPhat · 09/05/2023 19:56

@LadyKenya Indeed. I don't think I could have a lesser opinion of DB. I hope one day media classes explore the concept of gaslighting an entire race in which an entire module focuses on the life and work of DB.

LadyKenya · 09/05/2023 20:01

That sounds like that would be very interesting@DojaPhat .

PinkButtercups · 09/05/2023 20:41

Racism is still about and it's sickening.

Just on Sunday I was in a city centre outside car park paying for parking whilst DP was getting the kids in the car.

Lots of adults and their children exiting the church, gathering around talking. They all looked so smart and the women looked beautiful in their African gowns (I'm sorry I don't know if there is a name for these specific gowns).

A car goes past and shouts the n word to them. I was bloody mortified and instantly felt for how they must've felt being called such a disgusting name. I asked DP if he heard what was shouted and he did and he said the car in question had to stop at the traffic light and he got the reg of the car. He reported it to the police.

It's disgusting and I just can't believe people are still like this, it's sickening.

PinkButtercups · 09/05/2023 20:43

Also sorry to jump on this post I just realised what section of mumsnet it is on. Apologies x

PinotGroggio · 09/05/2023 20:47

It is disgusting but it sometimes feels like that's the racism white people in general are comfortable with calling out. The moment you mention more insidious or systemic racism they don't want to know about it.

LBFseBrom · 09/05/2023 20:56

It takes a while for the penny to drop with some people, Pinot.

PinkButtercups, I too did not realise what section I was posting in before previous posts. I just went straight to 'Active' and didn't notice. We haven't said anything wrong though, have we; does anyone mind?

PoorlyDS · 09/05/2023 20:58

HadalyEve · 09/05/2023 12:40

@Ineedwinenow yes that is racism and so sorry your family goes through that.

@LBFseBrom interesting you mention the USA and differences between states. I have been a few times on holiday/business. In NYC it wasn’t too bad, pretty normal feeling but one thing that shocked me was in Charlotte, NC. I got on a lift in the hotel on the 4th floor and all the white people already in the lift, immediately got off the lift, so I had it to myself. I thought, very strange they all were coming down to the 4th floor. I go eat breakfast and then go to the lifts to go up, brush my teeth and grab my work bag. I’m waiting and lift arrives and I get on and the white people who were also waiting, I hold the door and say…aren’t you getting on? They looked at me like I had sprouted two heads and one said “we will take the next one”. That when I realised Ah, this must be that famous southern USA racism, because it clicked.

I mentioned it to a local at my business meeting, and they said it’s common for many white people to just not share a lift with Black people and it’s just ignored. What can you do? Insist they get on or stay on a lift?

I have to say that first morning in Charlotte NC really made me on edge for the entirety of that trip.

This is horrendous.

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