Common racist comments you hear in 2023?

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Compared to 30 years ago, how is racism different today?

For me, racism terms such as the n word p word are less used than they were 30 years ago. However, people have looked at other avenues. See comments below.

1. "You have a chip over your shoulder" every time someone mentions racism or their lived experience it goes straight to denial mode. You are blamed for your lived experiences and told to get over it and how UK is not racist.

2. "The UK abolished slavery. slavery was a long time ago." Every time someone tries to put forward a view of reparations of people who are still suffering from the effects of slavery they are shut down. "that was a long time ago we have changed and evolved."

3. "I feel like a foreigner in my own country." Which is probably one of the most stupid statements considering that over 80 percent of the population is white. I always answer if you feel like a foreigner how do minorities feel?

4. "name the racists" commonly said for Megan Markle that she should name the racists she claimed in the Royal family. But lets be honest if you did that the other person in whatever circumstance would just deny it and ultimately you will not be believed and be called someone who plays the race card and tarnishing other people's careers.

5. "Why do black people have their own spaces if white people had it we would be accused of racism" This is commonly said by the same people who are not as vocal when other groups have their own space e.g. women, LGBT groups etc.. It just seems like whenever black people have their own space people have to put them down. Take Ngozi Fulani the media made it seem she was the bad person people argued why her charity helps black people suffering from domestic abuse. Sad how she was forced out Sistah Space due to the abuse she faced but the media never mention that and the racism she had to face.

6. "Racism exists in all communities" this is another common one used and is a whataboutery technique. We have seen this with people like Kanye, KSI recently but what people forget there was a lot of criticism from the black community with their actions. So to suggest the black community or any other community does not do anything about racism is for the birds.

7. "My best friend is black" This is something you would hear from the EDL or Britain First. But you would be surprised how often you hear this by a lot of people. Just because your friend or relative is black, Muslim, Asian etc does not mean you cannot be racist. Even if you are a white mother and your child is mixed race does not mean you cannot be racist. It is baffling how a lot of people seem to forget this and think that my saying I cannot be racist because of this automatically means they cannot.

It was David Lammy who criticised her and the posters on WFWR hate him so they will probably love her. Admittedly Lammy said something stupid about women wanting to "hoard rights" but that doesn't mean he's wrong about everything. Look at their veneration of the likes of Matt Walsh!

Thank you Socrates, you are my warrior queen when it comes to calling out this stuff on FWR. I have called out white feminism a few times on MN, can’t say it’s been received well. I’m adding the Amy Shuller book to my reading list.

Ugh, another thread on "Karens". Apparently we shouldn't use it because we don't go around referring to all young black thugs as Rashids.

Thank you for taking the time to explain it in a meaningful way. This very much reflects the experience my DW has in the corporate environment she works in.

Right back at you HadalyEve, it's an honour to stand shoulder to shoulder with you and others in these discussions, as depressing as they are.

There is a surprise perpetrators trying flex their privilege. I would love not to use the word Karen but a more apt name is likely to result in suspension. 😏

I’m BillaBong on the Karen thread.
We almost need to get IP rights for our memes and culture at the rate they get appropriated and twisted so that they can either be deemed cool money makers for the white “inventors” or deemed offensive and stomped into oblivion.
I’ve read about First Nation peoples and Amazonians doing this…but as a diaspora not sure how we would go about it?

Wow@HadalyEve . I salute you. How you are able to keep on going, on that thread with so many defensive voices trying to shut anyone down who thinks differently to them. I confess, I do not have the strength to deal with some of those posters. If only they had the same energy that they find to object to the Karen tag, they used as well to fight against racism on MN.

@CoparentingDad @HadalyEve perfectly summarizes my experience as a brown woman in the corporate world. Tired of being whitesplained to. There's a thread going on now about how Karens is a misogynistic label. The greatest irony is the people who have treated me with the most condescension have always been white women who fit the Karen stereotype.

@HadalyEve sorry just saw below that you're on the Karen thread too. Hats off to you for standing up x

I dropped the white feminism tag.
I truly do think that this whole Karen is misogynistic, ageist slur feminist movement is DARVO white feminism whereby the entitled racist Karen becomes the victim of the misogynist slur hurling Black or brown aggressor.

What a way to embolden all those racists out there to claim that a gendered slang word for racist behaviour is somehow a “slur.”

And we wonder why hate crimes are on the rise in this country.

There's a brilliant documentary on iplayer, George Alagiah about the history of mixed relationships/marriages. He interviews some older people who talk about their parents and what they went through. There were some things that I'd never heard of like in early 20th century a white British woman losing her nationality because she had married a Chinese man, she literally had to register as an alien. Two women showed their mother's registration card. They were talking about foreign sailors and the restrictions on them and I can't remember if this was just in relation to women who married sailors or any non white man. Also that they were subject to a curfew at 8 pm. A Welsh women whose home was attacked complained to the police and was told it was her fault for marrying a black man. Some of the articles he read out about attitudes to white women who married black men were vile, we are all prostitutes and sex mad apparently, ruined for a white man.

I haven't watched it all yet, I think there are three episodes and I've only seen 1910 to 1939.

I am white married to a black man, I absolutely regard my children as a mixture of me and their father and I've helped them research their family tree on their father's side, helped as my late FIL knew the name of the plantation his grandparents (or it might have been great grandparents) were on and we could access records so we can trace their history back quite a few generations. We then found a link to another plantation on his GGGgrandmother's side. We know what some of them did on the plantation and the others were probably working in the fields. I can't relate to how that woman felt, how could she have fallen in love with her husband with views like that? It seems really odd.

RIP George, I think he was a brilliant journalist/newsreader/presenter and he always seemed like a genuinely nice man. A sad loss.

I meant to add the Welsh woman whose house was attacked knew they were coming, she'd forced her husband to leave and hide because she knew the mob were after him. They said she cried when she saw all her little china ornaments smashed but I guess they were lucky they were tipped off as it sounds like her husband could easily have been killed.

One of the things that was said repeatedly was how kind the men were, much kinder than the British men the women had been used to. Says a lot about the myth of violent men of colour.

Gosh, astounding racism on the Karen thread.

Yes, but it is not that important, being called a "Karen" is the real indignity to get enraged about, above all else. The thread is getting to be too much. I am not going to waste my time with those posters who are showing their racism. I take my hat off to those who try to get through to them though.

Can you imagine if the only thing that you have to worry about is men and being invisible?

They're incredibly bothered by ageism. Rolls Eyes There's no explaining that will make them understand.

It is an astounding thread.

OMG - Ageism the worst thing that can happen to a woman. <<snort>>

The gaslighting of the appropriation of the name is beyond ridiculous. I cannot deal with that level of denial, and defensiveness. Not to mention the glossing over of racism, and cheap digs.

Not one of them have expressed concern about racism.

Exactly@GoogleMeNot .Even when one poster was asked if they had any sympathy for the racism people faced, that poster evaded that bit of the question to just continue to waffle on about the use of the name. That tells me all I need to know. There is so much racism on that thread coming from surprise, surprise..... The very same posters objecting to the very word which correctly identifies plenty of them!

So much gaslighting. My jaw dropped when they came out with the no one on this thread is misusing Karen, you’re preaching to the choir. Then it was oh it’s apparently my job to change the world…how can I do that when they won’t even concede that Karen was stolen from us in the first place and keep pointing to that Reddit thread where a white man was venting about an ex-wife actually named Karen! That’s like saying Chicago rap was invented by Eminem FFS.

I'm the poster who raised the lack of sympathy. I'm not surprised that was brushed off.

The way they're piling on Billabong makes me shudder.

You know what gets me? The talk about how they need to advocate for themselves at the NHS. Pfft, statistically Black women are more likely to be ignored in maternity wards not only in the UK but also in the US. I'm not Black I'm Brown but was poorly treated by a Karen midwife in the NHS despite me forking out for private maternity.

But hey ho, the white woman is the biggest victim of all, and none of them fit the Karen stereotype they're all bloody saints.

I admire your tenacity @HadalyEve . I just could not take them on like that. I take it you had ready brek this morning!😁