Common racist comments you hear in 2023?

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Compared to 30 years ago, how is racism different today?

For me, racism terms such as the n word p word are less used than they were 30 years ago. However, people have looked at other avenues. See comments below.

1. "You have a chip over your shoulder" every time someone mentions racism or their lived experience it goes straight to denial mode. You are blamed for your lived experiences and told to get over it and how UK is not racist.

2. "The UK abolished slavery. slavery was a long time ago." Every time someone tries to put forward a view of reparations of people who are still suffering from the effects of slavery they are shut down. "that was a long time ago we have changed and evolved."

3. "I feel like a foreigner in my own country." Which is probably one of the most stupid statements considering that over 80 percent of the population is white. I always answer if you feel like a foreigner how do minorities feel?

4. "name the racists" commonly said for Megan Markle that she should name the racists she claimed in the Royal family. But lets be honest if you did that the other person in whatever circumstance would just deny it and ultimately you will not be believed and be called someone who plays the race card and tarnishing other people's careers.

5. "Why do black people have their own spaces if white people had it we would be accused of racism" This is commonly said by the same people who are not as vocal when other groups have their own space e.g. women, LGBT groups etc.. It just seems like whenever black people have their own space people have to put them down. Take Ngozi Fulani the media made it seem she was the bad person people argued why her charity helps black people suffering from domestic abuse. Sad how she was forced out Sistah Space due to the abuse she faced but the media never mention that and the racism she had to face.

6. "Racism exists in all communities" this is another common one used and is a whataboutery technique. We have seen this with people like Kanye, KSI recently but what people forget there was a lot of criticism from the black community with their actions. So to suggest the black community or any other community does not do anything about racism is for the birds.

7. "My best friend is black" This is something you would hear from the EDL or Britain First. But you would be surprised how often you hear this by a lot of people. Just because your friend or relative is black, Muslim, Asian etc does not mean you cannot be racist. Even if you are a white mother and your child is mixed race does not mean you cannot be racist. It is baffling how a lot of people seem to forget this and think that my saying I cannot be racist because of this automatically means they cannot.

I’ve just started reading “Maybe I Don’t Belong Here” by David Harewood. Only read the foreword by David Olusoga so far. My daughter got the book and has given it to me last weekend saying mum you have to read this. Even just having read the foreword this morning which was about the silencing of racism as well as belonging and having this conversation with you, I’m now thinking about belonging and how for Meghan she would have been completely untethered and felt silenced and unable to speak up about the racism.

Thank you for the recommendation, I am going to get this.

The racism directed at Meghan from the start set the tone for how she would be treated and judged. People say often, everyone makes it about her race but I don't like her because of things she does... blah blah. But the judgement over 'the things she does' is not the same as the judgement for the rest of the people married in. It's clear and obvious. The way the royal boards talk about her mother is so so awful, and yet they feel sorry for her terrible father who tried to blackmail her. There's lots of obvious things but the slip ups when they are talking to posters of colour, names like 'angry woman', laughing when the posters brave enough do speak about racism in general... any time I peek in, it makes me want to leave the forum.

People say often, everyone makes it about her race but I don't like her because of things she does... blah blah. But the judgement over 'the things she does' is not the same as the judgement for the rest of the people married in. It's clear and obvious.

This with knobs on. She has been held up to far far higher standards than anyone else within the RF. It cannot be the things she does, as she's hardly done anything! So what is it then...

For instance.. this morning I have heard that the outrider escorting Sophie Wessex that collided with a woman... well.. two weeks in a coma and the poor poor woman has died.

I can only begin to imagine if this awful tragedy had occurred with the paps chase in NY with Meghan and Harry. She would've been called a murderer.

There will not be a mention of it on MN today I guarantee. If there is, it will just be sympathy for Sophie (well deserved, I should add). I am just trying to highlight what the difference would be if it were Meghan.

this morning I have heard that the outrider escorting Sophie Wessex that collided with a woman... well.. two weeks in a coma and the poor poor woman has died.

oh no! that's so sad... her poor family, horrible way to lose someone yes u r right that it would be blamed on Meghan if that happened with them

Yes, a senseless tragedy and I feel sorry for Sophie. However, that sympathy would not have been extended to Meghan.

Well yes you are imagining that.

As my pseudonym would suggest, I am a 'baby boomer' and I get rather tired of people blaming us for most of the economic ills of the last fifty years, and for stealing the birthright of subsequent generations

@Roussette do not take the bait, you are not imagining, you are observing the different treatment a WOC receives.

Yes, barely a squeak in the press about the poor lady losing her life. If it had involved Meghan the papers would be blowing up about it, there is no doubt about it. On MN there would be countless posts about it. I await to see if there is even one thread started about it today, I highly doubt it, as Roussette has already pointed out.

She said herself she was imagining it. She can't do anything else as it hasn't happened so she can't report on it or comment on how terrible it is because it hasn't happened. Aren't there enough things to talk about without us having to go into fantasy land?

How can any of us observe something that hasn't happened and isn't happening?

I haven't read the papers but it was on all the major news channels this morning, I flick between channels and it was reported and her families comments were reported. At least one channel showed a picture of where it happened and all channels reported the police are asking for witnesses to come forward.

I was talking about on MN. Not on the News. That is where I heard about it.

It was in reply to @LadyKenya saying "barely a squeak in the press" As I said I haven't looked at the printed press but it was well reported in the media.

I do apologise, I read the thread too quickly!

Waits patiently for the myriad of posts on MN to begin regarding this.

Come back again when you have then. If this had involved Meghan it would be front page news on all the papers that the woman had died. Front page! When I said the press, I was talking about the newspapers hth.

Can you let me know the numbers for tonights lottery. I could do with a big win.

I'm always reading things too fast and sometimes thread titles shock me and then I reread them and realise that I've read a word as something completely different.

One for my reading list. Thank you for the head up.

Completely empathise with the feeling of not belonging, it really resonates with me. I love how this country pats itself on the back for being as bad as the states. Yes a sly racist is better than an obvious racist...

Considering that the Daily Mail implied heavily that Meghan was causing human rights abuses in Mexico due to eating avocados, it doesn't take a huge stretch of the imagination to say that if her team had been involved in a fatal collision then yes, the tabloids would've said she was to blame and MN would've found a way to savage her too.

Yes, but as you can see on here, some people will always indulge in wilful denial of that being the case for some bizarre reason.

Thanks for discussing this - I’m sometimes shocked with the absolute denial of racism that goes on MN - that and the covert racism that happens on niche boards - and the POC cheerleaders co-signing the covert racists - it gets exhausting.

I agree@skullbabe . The constant deniers of racism on MN is shocking. Either the constant deniers do not recognize the racism in its many guises, which I understand will be the case with some people, who have no direct personal experience of racism. But to continue to deny it even when it has been pointed out to them numerous times, well that is going somewhere else. I personally think that when they keep hammering on, and refusing to take on board what is being said, well I just think that they obviously have an issue themselves. This latest discussion here about the coverage, or lack of, in the press, (PAPERS) about the poor lady that has now died following the collision, is a case in point. It speaks for itself.

WRT MM, a certain poster has even started a thread about her on the FWR boards, asking if posters consider her a real feminist. I'm pretty sure I haven't seen this poster on those boards before so I think it's safe to say they're slightly deranged.

@SleepDreamThinkHuge My apologies, but I am responsible for part of your opening post making it onto the feminism board.

@HypocrisyRules you are famous too.