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Black women's message to the royal family: I believe Meghan **title edited by MNHQ at the OP's request**

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Detanglinghairtonight · 11/03/2021 17:45

I name changed, I am a black woman and request primarily black women to send a message in support of Meghan to the royal family. We do not have to explain why we believe Meghan, this is a safe space/board for us.
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Orchidflower1 · 12/03/2021 17:14

With the title thing, it could even be a perfectly reasonable assumption by Meghan that her chn would get the title too as Kate and Williams children did. She may not have been aware that her chn would not have been entitled. I really think that fault falls there will Harry for not clarifying it for her.

Maassi · 12/03/2021 17:23

I believe her.

I believe there is a sickening amount of racism in this country.

I believe that MN is representative of the country.

These beliefs are due to my LIVED experience. Not because of any perceived "wokeness"

OnionsAreToxic · 12/03/2021 17:24

@AnotherName1334

Meghan is a mixed race/biracial woman - she's not a black woman anymore than she's a white woman.
WTF???!!!
eeyore228 · 12/03/2021 17:36

@Rege - don't you think that this is part of the problem? We don't know any of the people involved not H not M, not W or K. The whole world is condemning people left right and center on the basis of one side of a conversation. Did it happen? I have no idea and now there's a divide and nastiness over half of a number of conversations that have been had, spanning a few years. I've seen enough to know that perception on each side can be a huge factor.

DeeCeeCherry · 12/03/2021 17:43

Maassi
I believe her

I believe there is a sickening amount of racism in this country

I believe that MN is representative of the country

These beliefs are due to my LIVED experience

Same.

BlackIsBlackIsBlack · 12/03/2021 19:33

*DeeCeeCherry

BlackIsBlackIsBlack
Meghan is a mixed race/biracial woman - she's not a black woman anymore than she's a white woman

Not my quote. I was quoting someone else and my answer to that was:

True. But she will be seen as "non-white", rather than "non-black"

DeeCeeCherry · 12/03/2021 19:49

BlackIsBlackIsBlack

Apologies. I knew you were quoting someone else and I was aiming to quote you on your reply

True. But she will be seen as "non-white", rather than "non-black"

But somehow typed paras the wrong way around

Duloxeee · 13/03/2021 05:46

I believe Meghan 100%

BlackIsBlackIsBlack · 13/03/2021 06:47

DeeCeeCherry

Thanks, Dee.

On those that are nitpicking about when the conversation took place re the baby's skin colour, I am sure I recall M saying that there were "several" conversations?

Perhaps they were when they first got together, and then when she was pregnant.

May17th · 13/03/2021 07:03

I love them both H & M. I don’t disbelieve her at all.

I don’t think they should of even gone on Oprah at all they are royals and it was a bit classless. People will talk whatever and they do not owe the public an explanation for their movements.

I hope this is the last interview they do because it causes so much uproar I cannot see how it’s worth it especially whilst MM is pregnant.

Lessthanaballpark · 13/03/2021 07:19

I don’t think they should of even gone on Oprah at all they are royals and it was a bit classless. People will talk whatever and they do not owe the public an explanation for their movements.

They, especially Meghan, had been vilified in the press and were simply hoping to give their side of the story. I don’t know why that is so hard to understand.

Cleverpolly3 · 13/03/2021 07:38

@May17th

I love them both H & M. I don’t disbelieve her at all.

I don’t think they should of even gone on Oprah at all they are royals and it was a bit classless. People will talk whatever and they do not owe the public an explanation for their movements.

I hope this is the last interview they do because it causes so much uproar I cannot see how it’s worth it especially whilst MM is pregnant.

Well they don’t have to explain their movements now the Met Police isn’t covering their security detail I suppose Grin
Cleverpolly3 · 13/03/2021 07:39

@Lessthanaballpark

I don’t think they should of even gone on Oprah at all they are royals and it was a bit classless. People will talk whatever and they do not owe the public an explanation for their movements.

They, especially Meghan, had been vilified in the press and were simply hoping to give their side of the story. I don’t know why that is so hard to understand.

They could have released another of their statements
Lessthanaballpark · 13/03/2021 07:48

They could have released another of their statements

How would that lessen the effect of what they said? Besides, who cares? Focus on the substance of what was said rather than the style in which it was said, because otherwise you’re just derailing.

PurpleRainDancer · 13/03/2021 08:19

@TheWarbler

Why are white women commenting on here? I thought black women requested their own board.
I find this comment very disappointing and ‘exclusive’.
Orchidflower1 · 13/03/2021 09:03

I don’t think they should of even gone on Oprah at all they are royals and it was a bit classless

They aren’t “working” royals though.

The thing with releasing a written statement rather than the interview is that it doesn’t give as broad an insight into what they were trying to say. A written statement gives no scope for questioning, body language, tone of voice etc.

Videoed interview was by far the best way IMHO.

May17th · 13/03/2021 09:19

@Orchidflower1 Orchid I like them both. I’m sick of having to hear people defend them both even when I watch loose women.... it’s endless.

They wanted a private life and that is what they should do. They will never really win like the saying goes about when your trying so hard to put yourself in the right you can end up in the wrong.

Harry is a Royal. No arguments weather he works or not it is what it is.

You can be middle class and work in Mc Donald’s tomorrow your still middle class...

Let’s be fair going on Oprah? Come on!!! It’s not a good look I will confess I haven’t watched the full interview I just think when you have a certain status you shouldn’t really be doing certain things. It’s not really right Blush can you imagine other royals doing a part 2? Kate and William?

It’s like Jezza Kyle.

They also do not need to write or release any statement. It’s a choice. They can keep quiet and live their best life in America.

May17th · 13/03/2021 09:25

@Lessthanaballpark what are Harry and Megan achieving? Because they will not win!! I agree with the poster who stated the issue is in the Royal family Megan is viewed as a black woman there most definitely would not be this fuss if she fit the “physical narrative”.

Megan should not be upsetting herself whilst pregnant so no I will say it again I don’t understand the logic and I don’t think it was a wise move personally!

DeeCeeCherry · 13/03/2021 10:55

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Cleverpolly3 · 13/03/2021 11:09

@Lessthanaballpark

They could have released another of their statements

How would that lessen the effect of what they said? Besides, who cares? Focus on the substance of what was said rather than the style in which it was said, because otherwise you’re just derailing.

The substance of what was said?

At this stage it is speculation raised in a spurious manner - ie through her talk show host pal. Not exactly Frost and Nixon was itGrin

If they really wanted to give their allegations substance this was the worst way to do it in my view.

It was utterly contrived and ironically for a couple who have been savaged by the British tabloids - and claim to want privacy whilst posting staged photos left right and centre not even on the (Remembrance Day) - made them look like attention seekers and gave them more bullets to fire.

People can believe what they want to believe. The overarching impression I get from this young couple is that the only truth is their truth even before any of this has actually been investigated

I am not a fan of the Royal Family btw
I would not be surprised what came out in the wash with this for all parties involved and that includes Harkle

DeeCeeCherry · 13/03/2021 11:32

BlackIsBlackIsBlack
DeeCeeCherry

Thanks, Dee

On those that are nitpicking about when the conversation took place re the baby's skin colour, I am sure I recall M saying that there were "several" conversations?

Perhaps they were when they first got together, and then when she was pregnant

Yes that likely is the case. Not that it matters when it was said, as we know. It's the fact it was said at all.

Racism is so sly in the UK. It's been interesting here and there online to see that being picked up on more and more; that it exists here

Rege · 13/03/2021 12:01

I think if white posters come on here to start debating, black mners only have themselves to blame for engaging. You ignore and continue with YOUR conversation. Unfortunately, it seems some can't do that and allowing this back and forth to continue.

DeeCeeCherry · 13/03/2021 12:03

Rege
I think if white posters come on here to start debating, black mners only have themselves to blame for engaging. You ignore and continue with YOUR conversation. Unfortunately, it seems some can't do that and allowing this back and forth to continue

In a nutshell.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 13/03/2021 12:27

I believe her. My parents are/would have been the age of the senior royals. One of my parents wasn't white. This parent wasn't very dark-skinned, but even as a child, I knew they were not English (as such). I was always corrected - 'No, they are white'. About five years before they died it came to pass that a distant relative outed them. Their reaction was 'I know and I was always scared you'd come out black'. It was a generational thing for them and I remain so sad that they were unable to acknowledge their heritage and pass it on. I believe MM because of that insidious and deep-seated racism that pervades so much.

Orchidflower1 · 13/03/2021 12:56

@YetAnotherSpartacus

I believe her. My parents are/would have been the age of the senior royals. One of my parents wasn't white. This parent wasn't very dark-skinned, but even as a child, I knew they were not English (as such). I was always corrected - 'No, they are white'. About five years before they died it came to pass that a distant relative outed them. Their reaction was 'I know and I was always scared you'd come out black'. It was a generational thing for them and I remain so sad that they were unable to acknowledge their heritage and pass it on. I believe MM because of that insidious and deep-seated racism that pervades so much.
Previously accepted social norms from older generations may have explained some racism ( not that that makes it acceptable).

However it’s been clearly stated that hrh and DoE were not the perpetrator which means that can’t be wheeled out as a reason/ excuse.

I’m sorry that you didn’t get to explore your heritage. My mums family were the same.

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