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Black women's message to the royal family: I believe Meghan **title edited by MNHQ at the OP's request**

263 replies

Detanglinghairtonight · 11/03/2021 17:45

I name changed, I am a black woman and request primarily black women to send a message in support of Meghan to the royal family. We do not have to explain why we believe Meghan, this is a safe space/board for us.
post edited by MNHQ at the OP's request

OP posts:
ItsLoisSangersFault · 12/03/2021 07:10

Thank you for starting this thread. I wanted to but was nervous.

I'm a white woman and I believe Megan.

Lessthanaballpark · 12/03/2021 07:20

Also, why is everyone talking about whether or not SHE is lying?

It was Harry who said it! If she got it wrong and the RF member did just mean it innocently then it’s Harry who misinterpreted not her!

But noooo, let’s blame the outsider!

ItsLoisSangersFault · 12/03/2021 07:49

meghan

Denzelstowel · 12/03/2021 07:58

I believe Meghan!
Harry should be the one to name the racist who made the comments direct to HIM. Otherwise it is Meghan saying Harry said, he (racist) said..... but I agree it's easier for those who have it in for Meghan to blame her for everything rather than Harry who ultimately it is HIS family HE is complaining about. It is as if these people still see Harry as a 12 year old boy who is not capable of making a decision and Meghan has a gun to his head. HARRY is a grown man not a little boy following his mother's orders - please get a grip, those who continue to dismiss his statements and concerns with his family and the press and rather blame Meghan are more guilty of emasculating him than Meghan is- I actually believe that he is far
More confident and assertive since meeting Meghan. He is not just a Prince anymore but a husband and a father so quite rightly has the confidence to voice his opinions when he seems it as damaging the well-being of his wife and son. Angry

Orchidflower1 · 12/03/2021 08:10

@Denzelstowel that’s very true. She was actually repeating back what she’d been told.

It does make you wonder whether Harry should have told her, knowing how fragile her mental state was. Maybe he should have dealt with the issue there and then. Hmmm worth a thought.

Lessthanaballpark · 12/03/2021 08:24

I wonder if we all changed our chant from #ibelievemeghan to #ibelieveharry ?

That would confuse people Grin

Oh no but wait. Despite being a grown man, he was obviously led astray by Meghan.

Oh no but wait. He was the one who relayed the racist conversation. How can that be?

There is only one solution! It’s obvious: Meghan put on a headscarf, some shades and her best posh voice and pretended to be the royal family member expressing “concerns” about the baby’s skin colour in a bid to separate Hazzer from his family and bring down the British Royal Family.

Fucking A games Megs! 👏

DeeCeeCherry · 12/03/2021 12:24

Benelovencd
Methinks the squatters should go back to their vitriolic pages and congregate there. You are not welcome here

Yep

They need to be ignored. &
even skimming comments explaining to them why they're wrong = 😴

DeeCeeCherry · 12/03/2021 12:25

#IBelieveHarry

AnotherName1334 · 12/03/2021 12:40

Perhaps an I believe Harry thread will be even more powerful. Just saying...

Cleverpolly3 · 12/03/2021 13:14

[quote BluesInTheSun]@Cleverpolly3
The OP said this was a thread for expressing solidarity and it is only respectful to limit the conversation to that and take the criticisms elsewhere where a number of women myself included are happy to argue over them.

I really resent the implication that she as a person of colour should be responsible for altering the racism within that family. It’s not her responsibility it’s the responsibility of the racist person to educate themselves. They rarely do this though.

Can’t speak for all women of colour but personally I find it heartbreaking to continue to have these conversations. Every time I respond to a racist or ignorant comment regardless of the intention behind it, I do so knowing that it is negative for my mental health. I engage because the ramifications of racism have affected me and others so badly. This is a decision woc need to make for themselves and I fully support any woc who has chosen not to engage because sometimes it is pointless when you’re not going to be heard anyway.[/quote]
I’m not saying she is responsible for eradicating racism in the royal family. That’s your interpretation of my comment.

I’m saying she is responsible for her own choices and for exercising her right to stand up and call it out at the time which is what I believe they should have done. I would actually expect nothing less of an educated, modern woman in that position of privilege and with such a platform. She seems very comfortable in other occasions where this has been the case. She clearly saw marrying into the RF as a massive chance to spread her own values and visions globally so why fall short of applying that to her own life and retrospectively admit she

That isn’t a criticism of MM It was perhaps an expectation though so can see why you might see it that way if you chose to

Cleverpolly3 · 12/03/2021 13:15

@Denzelstowel

I believe Meghan! Harry should be the one to name the racist who made the comments direct to HIM. Otherwise it is Meghan saying Harry said, he (racist) said..... but I agree it's easier for those who have it in for Meghan to blame her for everything rather than Harry who ultimately it is HIS family HE is complaining about. It is as if these people still see Harry as a 12 year old boy who is not capable of making a decision and Meghan has a gun to his head. HARRY is a grown man not a little boy following his mother's orders - please get a grip, those who continue to dismiss his statements and concerns with his family and the press and rather blame Meghan are more guilty of emasculating him than Meghan is- I actually believe that he is far More confident and assertive since meeting Meghan. He is not just a Prince anymore but a husband and a father so quite rightly has the confidence to voice his opinions when he seems it as damaging the well-being of his wife and son. Angry
I’m assuming she overlooked him dressing up as a Nazi that time Hmm
C130 · 12/03/2021 13:29

Please ignore the troll/s. There are plenty of other threads they can indulge their bilge on.

C130 · 12/03/2021 13:30

@DeeCeeCherry

#IBelieveHarry
Yes.
NeedanIdea · 12/03/2021 13:35

I for one am glad Meghan got out of that horrible environment. I would hate to be trapped there with 18th century old codgers discussing my skin colour behind my back. No wonder she got suicidal. William & Kate are disappointing in my opinion.

CheltenhamLady · 12/03/2021 14:44

@Haydugi

I wanted to believe her, and in her.

But so much of what she said was obviously not true.

This.

The timing of the comment about the colour of the skin of any child differed from Meghan to Harry. He said it was before they were engaged, she said it was while she was pregnant with Archie.

I do think she either really believes what she said, or she is a better actress than she is given credit for.

Rege · 12/03/2021 15:05

#IBelieveHarryandMeghan Smile

AirportLounge · 12/03/2021 15:14

@NeedanIdea

I for one am glad Meghan got out of that horrible environment. I would hate to be trapped there with 18th century old codgers discussing my skin colour behind my back. No wonder she got suicidal. William & Kate are disappointing in my opinion.
This was my overarching, visceral feeling in my gut watching her speak. Thank GOD she escaped and took her baby with her.
NeedanIdea · 12/03/2021 15:33

He said it was before they were engaged, she said it was while she was pregnant with Archie

This again. I don't think it matters exactly when it was said, just the fact it was said at some point. Harry was there and heard it. There's no need to be FORENSIC about it. Let's get the FBI in! HmmGrin

KevinBaconsMoustache · 12/03/2021 15:57

Of course it matters if she/he is to be believed. It's generally one of the cornerstones of being believed, having an explanation that is unwavering and consistent because it happened, especially with such a difference in times.

AIMummy · 12/03/2021 16:05

I believe her.

DeeCeeCherry · 12/03/2021 16:15

NeedanIdea
I for one am glad Meghan got out of that horrible environment. I would hate to be trapped there with 18th century old codgers discussing my skin colour behind my back. No wonder she got suicidal.*
William & Kate are disappointing in my opinion

Definitely. Who'd want to put up with all that, & also expected to stay silent about it all?

I like Meghan & Harry's style🙂. They left the table, and racists who didn't expect that, instead thought H&M would stay here to be villified by they and trash British media, just can't stand it. Then they arrogantly wanted her to remain silent but, nope.

Bullies always squawk when the object of their nastiness sidesteps them.

Out of the grey, into the sun. Nice one

DeeCeeCherry · 12/03/2021 16:22

C130
Please ignore the troll/s. There are plenty of other threads they can indulge their bilge on

This, again.

Why even give a damn about or engage with what they say?

Otherwise Board will eventually become another version of you know where, having to scroll through a load of boring arguing back and forth before finding and getting to the point of what OP was about.

They've even reduced themselves to coming to BMN to discuss and argue amongst each other about it. Sad crave for Black Women's attention.

Leave them to whatever they're on about

KnottedFern · 12/03/2021 16:47

I'm mixed race. I believe most of what they said, especially the racial comments made about Archie. Other parts seem fabricated or stretched versions of the truth to me. I do think Harry has misled Megan on certain things, especially Archie's title. I think he's done a piss poor job of realistically portraying to her how their life would actually be and the rules about being a royal.

CheltenhamLady · 12/03/2021 17:08

@NeedanIdea

He said it was before they were engaged, she said it was while she was pregnant with Archie

This again. I don't think it matters exactly when it was said, just the fact it was said at some point. Harry was there and heard it. There's no need to be FORENSIC about it. Let's get the FBI in! HmmGrin

Hardly forensic. It is a glaring;y obvious discrepancy. It does matter as it goes to back up or undermine the credibility of all of the statements made.
OnionsAreToxic · 12/03/2021 17:13

@debbrianna

I also belive she left out a lot, give it time. It will comeout.
Me too.

I believe her. I'm white, and aghast that William so many ppl can't even see their own prejudice.

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