Black women's message to the royal family: I believe Meghan **title edited by MNHQ at the OP's request**

[Detanglinghairtonight]

I name changed, I am a black woman and request primarily black women to send a message in support of Meghan to the royal family. We do not have to explain why we believe Meghan, this is a safe space/board for us.
post edited by MNHQ at the OP's request

@anewdispensation

I don’t believe for a second an intelligent worldly divorced celebrity and actress who has mixed in the same social scenes and has striven to meet a man like Harry didn’t know what she was getting into

Not saying for a minute if there is racism it shouldn’t be called by out, however my view is when they “stepped back” they ought to have made these reasons and the basis for their decision clearer then. They would really have been living “authentically” then

Something about it feels a little contrived to me and I continue to wonder whether had royal security nor been stopped or their son given a title some of this would have not just have been chalked up to bad experiences and the gap between the family and the couple widened

it was their chance to correct many lies circulating about them for years lies which the RF staff had put out themselves.

Exactly, that's how I saw it too - a chance to put across their side, to correct things that have been said.
If in by doing so they've upset a lot of racist views, not sure how that's anything to do with them, should they have rather stayed quiet instead?
Eh, no.
I admire them for speaking out.
I don't think it was anything to do with "challenging" people.
Just saying their view, and their experiences.

I believe her. I’ve endured both subtle and (admittedly much less) overt racism in the UK. Like a poster above I find subtle racism worse. I truly do not understand how she managed to go through it in public and I think she is so brave to have reclaimed the narrative about her life.

@BluesInTheSun

I believe her. I’ve endured both subtle and (admittedly much less) overt racism in the UK. Like a poster above I find subtle racism worse. I truly do not understand how she managed to go through it in public and I think she is so brave to have reclaimed the narrative about her life.

Is it “just “ a question of believing her though. That is perhaps naive There is nothing subtle about the allegations pertaining to their son’s skin colour if this is in fact true it is offensive beyond belief and would surely have been the catalyst for removing themselves form such a ghastly circus immediately.

My question would be why did she knowingly chose to shelve it in the first place? For love? Then her choice and implied resignation was initially seen as implicit by millions of women not all of them black but of other ethnicities whom also have reasons to denounce the regressive “norms “ of such a fucked up institution.

I am highly dubious of her willingness to be patronised and patted on the hand for retrospectively stating she had no idea what she was getting into. I am insulted by her narrative that as a successful achieving educated black woman she allowed herself to participate in a pantomime which if we are to believe her was denigrating and minimising her truth from the get go.

@TheWarbler

Why are white women commenting on here? I thought black women requested their own board.

Woah!! Wow.

Meghan is a mixed race/biracial woman - she's not a black woman anymore than she's a white woman.

Why are there people on the board now "debating" whether or not she should have called out, or whether she's telling the truth?
There's hundreds more H and M threads to add that kind of crap to, this one is unique in how it is black voices (for want of a better phrase, sorry) and their experiences and people could just do well and listen instead of just trying to bloody debate them.

@AnotherName1334

Meghan is a mixed race/biracial woman - she's not a black woman anymore than she's a white woman.

Quite

Meghan is a mixed race/biracial woman - she's not a black woman anymore than she's a white woman

True. But she will be seen as "non-white", rather than "non-black"

I believe her.

Status wealth beauty doesn’t matter - she is expressing an experience that many will share.

While we are at it, seeing a few comments above. As the black child of black parents I have no hesitation in calling “mixed race people” black.

@Quaagars

Why are there people on the board now "debating" whether or not she should have called out, or whether she's telling the truth? There's hundreds more H and M threads to add that kind of crap to, this one is unique in how it is black voices (for want of a better phrase, sorry) and their experiences and people could just do well and listen instead of just trying to bloody debate them.

@TheWarbler was right. The thread is being high-backed by those who think they know better about how a woman should react to racism, what does and doesn't constitute racism, stupid outrage at their voices not being welcome on BMN where they have a whole board to gaslight BW and other minorities. I called it earlier.

As another poster said - it is always the time to point out this is BMN.

BlackIsBlackIsBlack
Meghan is a mixed race/biracial woman - she's not a black woman anymore than she's a white woman

True. But it's the Black part of her that's instigated racism against her.

& Also caused non-Black women, some of whom would no doubt deem themselves as feminists, to support a White man systemically bullying and gaslighting her publicly, for years.

Quaagars
Why are there people on the board now "debating" whether or not she should have called out, or whether she's telling the truth?
There's hundreds more H and M threads to add that kind of crap to, this one is unique in how it is black voices (for want of a better phrase, sorry) and their experiences and people could just do well and listen instead of just trying to bloody debate them

Too many people who give them the time of day for their nonsense. I never address them directly. They actively crave attention from Black Women and I won't give oxygen to that.

Black Women and Allies alike should just talk around them.

Apologies for hijacking your board. I'm white, but I believe Meghan

Gonescone
Apologies for hijacking your board. I'm white, but I believe Meghan

I don't see this as hijacking. Black Women & non-Black allies is all good🙂

Just not the dry Daily Heilers spilling their guts for attention

@Cleverpolly3
The OP said this was a thread for expressing solidarity and it is only respectful to limit the conversation to that and take the criticisms elsewhere where a number of women myself included are happy to argue over them.

I really resent the implication that she as a person of colour should be responsible for altering the racism within that family. It’s not her responsibility it’s the responsibility of the racist person to educate themselves. They rarely do this though.

Can’t speak for all women of colour but personally I find it heartbreaking to continue to have these conversations. Every time I respond to a racist or ignorant comment regardless of the intention behind it, I do so knowing that it is negative for my mental health. I engage because the ramifications of racism have affected me and others so badly. This is a decision woc need to make for themselves and I fully support any woc who has chosen not to engage because sometimes it is pointless when you’re not going to be heard anyway.

@DeeCeeCherry

Quaagars Why are there people on the board now "debating" whether or not she should have called out, or whether she's telling the truth? There's hundreds more H and M threads to add that kind of crap to, this one is unique in how it is black voices (for want of a better phrase, sorry) and their experiences and people could just do well and listen instead of just trying to bloody debate them

Too many people who give them the time of day for their nonsense. I never address them directly. They actively crave attention from Black Women and I won't give oxygen to that.

Black Women and Allies alike should just talk around them.

You know what, you’re right. I’m going to ask MNHQ to delete my last comment because this is not the place for indulging this conversation.

Every time I respond to a racist or ignorant comment regardless of the intention behind it, I do so knowing that it is negative for my mental health

true
not worth the effort.

You know what, you’re right. I’m going to ask MNHQ to delete my last comment because this is not the place for indulging this conversation

It was a valid comment, doesn't need deleting.

Just from hereonwards, their antics are best ignored. Even when they crank it up, desperate for interaction.

We wouldn't give a racist the time of day in reality so give them that same treatment here, seems best.

I believe her

Quaagars
Every time I respond to a racist or ignorant comment regardless of the intention behind it, I do so knowing that it is negative for my mental health

We all do that sometimes. At least you're aware of the impact. & At least on this board, we can just let them stew or whatever they're doing.

I skim over their comments then just go on to the next.

Racist gaslighting is unedifying. There really aren't enough hours in the day to waste on debating with it

Sorry Quaagars just realised you were quoting someone else, same sentiment stands anyway

True. But she will be seen as "non-white", rather than "non-black"

I agree.

True. But it's the Black part of her that's instigated racism against her.

& Also caused non-Black women, some of whom would no doubt deem themselves as feminists, to support a White man systemically bullying and gaslighting her publicly, for years.

Very true.

Feminism seems to be for black women only when it benefits white women as well. You can always tell the difference in energy.