July 2010: Our babes are due! Within the month, they'll all début.

[Chulita]

Thanks to spirael for the title, hopefully we'll all pop before this thread ends!

mlic thanks for your response, I just needed to vent somewhere!
I keep reading that 2 weeks is too soon to try to establish any sort of routine but Im the same as you I do everything round here too.

Ive been given a leaflet by the mw about my local breastfeeding group at the Sure Start centre I was going to go down there tomoro to get out the flat and see what other groups they've got there.

I would love him to have a routine but I dont think he has anything that even slightly resembles one at the mo.
He just seems to sleep all afternoon and is awake all night.

It just all seems so hard to cope with when Im up alone with him at night and DP is snoring beside me.

mlic yeah I agree with you that its better for them to be in a quiet room with no tv etc, in fact I wonder sometimes if thats some of the problem, Dylan is so used to being around noise during the day and sleeping through it that maybe its too quiet at night and people have suggested having a radio on or something but then I wouldnt be able to sleep!

mlic and dh i agree that lo needs silence at night. We have black out curtains that also help as she doesnt think its time to get up at 5.30 lol. She gets last feed at 10 and wakes 2 or 3 times, she never takes a full feed. If i dont need to change her i dont so try to have her back down within half hour. My problem is she often pukes after being laid down, which scares me in case she chokes. Having a baby is a minefield lol x

dh mt dh went back to work today 2, ive been dreading it, alarm went off at 4.30 5 mins after lyndon got up for his feed, dh took over as he was expecting to be away over night and wanted a cuddle, then changed him, he passed him back to me then he just projectile vomited all over himself, me and the bed, dh was still here and ended up cleaning bed and trying to help with lyndon, i just sat there crying i cant do it while peeling puky clothes off lyndon, not the best start to the day, luckily he is actually coming home tonight now!
my bit of advice for you is something i got told while pregnant, no matter how tired you are have a wash, get dressed and take baby for a walk fresh air will do you both good and it usually soothes baby, its worked for me ive gone out everyday for at least half an hour since 2 days old. another one is when he naps you nap, stuff the cleaning you need to look after yourself! sorry for long post hope everything eases soon! x

totally agree memphis dp went back to work today too, wasnt supposed to go back till wednesday, i was meant to be going for shopping today with him, bugger.

Looks like it's back to just us ladies. Meant to ask before how often are lo's feeding and how much at a time? Rileighs every 3-4 hours and shes taking between 3.5 and 4.5 ounce at a time. X

Hello all!

Congrats to all the new mummies who've posted since I was last on, I've skim read but it's all a bit blurry at the mo so sorry for not responding properly.

Got released from hospital today so this is the first time I've been online for 3 days. I'm feeling a bit rubbish after the whole baby experience so just skip to the next post if you don't want to read, lol!

I think I've had the crappy birth so you're all in the clear to continue the positive/quick labour stories.

I phoned the labour ward early Friday morning to say I was having ctx about 3.5 mins apart lasting an avg of 45 secs and she said since it was my 2nd and a vbac I should go in. Got in at 6am and was told I was 2cm. They didn't send me home because they thought it would happen quite quickly...10am I was 3cm, 12:30 I was 4cm, 4pm I was 6-7, midnight I was 8-9cm I'd opted for an epidural at 4pm cos I thought I was going to die from how much the fricking things hurt (I'd fully dilated with no pain relief with dd but these were a whole different thing!) The epidural only worked for about 3 hours and then stopped but I couldn't move my legs so was stuck in agony not being able to do a thing except groan. I was desperate to have a vbac though so agreed to keep trying, only when at midnight the doctor came in and said that Sam was back to back and wedged at an angle so no matter how long I tried he was never going to come out...[sigh] I agreed a cs was an inevitability So he was ripped out at 0126 on Saturday and is doing fine. I'm gutted to have had another cs despite doing all the OFP and trying as long as I could. Now I'm just trying to get my head around looking after a toddler when I can't pick her up or run after her. And those 2 weeks of warm up ctxs did sod all...
Never mind eh! Hope the rest of you have lovely natural births! I'll try not to post anything til I'm feeling a bit more positive about the whole thing

tsc - we've only been home a couple of hours so the most DD's done is take his 'bear' (which is a gorilla but hey ho). She's only 20 mths though so I'm hoping we'll get away with less than you're getting [hopeful emoticon] Give your DD2 time though and she'll be loving him to bits!

chulita if you cant vent and talk about how your really feeling here, where can you talk about it? seriously we all have our ups and downs so post away. very disappointing to not get the birth you wanted especially with the weeks you put in beforehand .but on the upside your little man is here now! have no advise on trying to keep up with your toddler though.
dh my heart really goes out to you. your doing absolutely brill to keep going with the breastfeeding this long when your getting no sleep. agree with everyone about getting out for a little fresh air. really hope it gets easier for you soon hun. and it makes it all the harder and emotional that dp went back to work.
memphis and stac how are you both after your day by yourselves? it does get easier to be at hoe by yourself.
right my madam is chomping her hands in her sleep here! she's too lazy to wake up for her food and she's due now! oh yeah stac we at least always get the 4 hours out of her and she takes the same as riliegh but we need the dummy during the day to spread it out til the 4 hours sometimes. she goes longer at night but not going to talk about that when so many of us are really sleep deprived xx

memphis hope your feeling a bit more positive now. A friend came over with her 7mo earlier, it was so nice to speak to someone who had been through it all before and has survived! I hope Im not as tearful tomoro when DP leaves, think it all depends on how Dylan is tonight.

stac Dylan feeds every 2ish hours, can be a bit more or a bit less but as hes breastfed I dont know how much he takes at a time.

chulita sorry to hear about your long and painful labour must be very frustrating not to get the labour you were hoping for, at least you have a lovely healthy LO

Dylan has been feeding/sleeping beautifully all afternoon, I even managed to have a nap when he did (really not as easy as people think!) Im really hoping he carries this on through the night.

Evening everyone.

Well I have survived my first day alone with the 3 kids

Also had the health visitor come round today, to do the hearing test, which needed quiet in the background, which was pretty intersting with my 3 & 4 year olds there! Oh and 3 yr old DS decided to ask the health visitor if the baby could pick his nose yet . Boys, don't think they ever change!

DH I know all the advice now is to feed the baby whenever they want to feed, and I went with that for DD (my first baby) and I found it a complete nightmare, and eventually gave up BF at 6 weeks. This time we have tried routine from about 3 days (when I got the 'proper milk') and Thomas has settled brilliantly on it. He feeds more or less every 4 hours, having his last feed at 10pm, and then only waking up once in the night. I'm sure he would feed a lot more often if I let him, but with the other 2 kids to look after as well it just isn't possible - I need to have some sort of plan for the day so I can fit in the other kids activities. I know he might just be an 'easier baby' but this has definately worked for us.

Another thing I have found, which again I know isn't the standard advice, is that they all settled much better at night in their own bedrooms than in with us. Also agree with MLIC - try and join some groups. Things always seem less bad if there are other people to talk to about it.

chulita don't you stay away, thats what we're here for hun. Sorry you didnt get the birth you wanted, hope your ok

kk just wanted to see if she was taking an average, ds was eating constantly at rileighs age lol. I got on fine without dp, even went to docs and shops so i'm sure we'll be fine. Ds is still off school and being helpful which is good.

dh should dylans feeding not settle down soon? Or could you express so dp could help out?

tsc do you dream feed?

Are we making a new thread here since we're nearing the end and still have babies coming? Don't want to leave others behind, why dont we use the same name but part 2? X

yeah good plan stac. how many is left to have babies? we should start throwing out a few thread name for the post natal group. spireal your normally good at that!
feeling totally back to myself today thank god. even dp noticed the difference in me when he came home from work. hope im not jinxing myself by saying it out loud! hope it lasts

congrats chulita sorry it wasnt the birth you wanted at least you are home now, i was gutted not to have birth i wanted but was just relieved to get home!
kk i survived the day but an so tired shocked so really it makes me realise how much dh was doing while at home, it was lovely he managed to get home, he looked over the moon to see his little boy!
stac Lyndon is feeding the same as rileigh 3.5 to .4.5oz every 3-4 hours, he keeps trying to hold his own bottle which he can manage when its the last oz in there he is so strong always trying to hold his head up!
kitty lol at ds asking hv if he lo picks their nose yet, we have a home vid of my bro holdinf me at 3 days old asking does she trump? he has never lived it down!
quick question to ladies who had a vaginal birth, my stitches are all healed fine but my pubic bone still feels like ive been kicked with a doc martin is this normal after 2 weeks?
next monday is 21 days since his birth which means i should be having my contraceptive injection, it seems rediculous as my current feelings are dh isnt coming near me again

Hi all,

I know it VERY late in the day, but please can I join your gang??
I am due today and feeling very down as I was convinced that they had my dates wrong (my dates worked out to be around the 14th July- so in my head I am about 2 weeks overdue!)
I have a sweap today so hoping that that does something.
Went for a walk last night and had a curry, but doesn't seem to have done anything

I just want this baby out!!!!
Sorry for gatecrashing

chulita your labour sounds very similar to my other than mine ended in forceps. glad you LO is here safely.

my pic has finally uploaded after much dismay at how to resize it for mumsnet.

with regards to routine Dreya was not keen on breastfeeding as she is slightly tonguetied but not enough that they will snip it but due to this she will not open her mouth very far and made me very sore. We breastfed for a week with much stress and the only way i could get her to latch was to force my breast into her mouth and hold her there. i had a revelation that something that is supposed to so natural was so forced and i gave in to bottles.
i'm still expressing 3 times a day but Dreya is much more settled and having regular 3-4 hourly feeds as opposed to every 2 hours trying to get her to latch for more than 5 minutes!
It's lovely getting to spend time with her when she's awake rather than worrying how much milk she's taken.
Had her registered yesterday so she is officially a person now.
no news from gracie yet i think her planned cs is today if she hasnt gone already

The trouble with Dylan is that no matter when I feed him in the night he wakes himself (and me) up by doing this weird grunting/straining noise. It can be really loud sometimes. I try and burp him after every feed, sometimes he will do a burp but more often than not he doesnt and this obv all accumulates inside him into a alot of wind and Im wondering if thats why he does this odd noise as its usually followed by alot of farting. He doesnt look/sound in pain at all though its just annoying cos he wakes himself up and I have to sit there for ages stroking and shushing him.

Last night wasnt AS bad but he still woke quite regularly, he seems to sleep best between 9 and midnight then after that hes pretty unsettled, waking every couple of hours, sometimes less.

welcome munchkin hope your sweep goes well hun

Shes gorgeous nixter its lovely to just enjoy them isnt it.

dh rileigh does a lot of grunting and farting as she doesnt always break wind, its so frustrating. During the day she breaks wind no probs but at night it seems shes to lazy to do it, i hear it try to come up but it doesnt, its a pain x

welcome munchkin fingers crossed things get moving for you soon.

dh have you tried giving Dylan infacol before a feed? it's suitable from birth and just seems to help them bring their wind up a treat. i give it to Dreya for her night feeds and she farts/burps like a trooper!

thanks stac it is so nice to have the pressure off and just spend time with them.

mlic hope your lo and ds1 are feeling better soon and dont infect you as well.

tsc dream feeding is when you feed at say 6pm then again at 8pm and then at 10pm even if lo is still asleep hence the name. it basically means filling them to the brim to thelp them go through the night.

Morning all! Thanks for the Mum and Baby cinema info. Sounds like car seat and taking a friend is the way forwards!

Mindy frequently goes on a feeding frenzy. DH and I are starting to think we should have included 'Bottomless Pit' as part of her name!

Last night was particularly epic with feeding... She must have had around 8 fl oz over three continuous hours. She drained me on both sides, then we gave her 3 fl oz of formula as she was still hungry. Then I fed her again on both sides and she was still hungry so got another 2 fl oz of formula!

She went straight to sleep (yay!) then woke 2 hours later (boo!) and wanted both breasts again before she'd settle. Two hours after that... Thus it continued through the night. I'm guessing (hoping?!) this is just a growth spurt!

I know she's getting milk from me because she dribbles a bit when she's done. When I express I can get around 1.5 fl oz from each breast at present. Her latch has been checked and is fine. So I guess she's just a particularly hungry baby at the moment!

One thing we have discovered is that she doesn't seem to like it if I eat onion. That results in a colicy baby after a few hours and for a few hours! Has anyone else found the same thing? Interestingly, while I was pregnant, it was onions (and only onions...) that gave me bad heartburn! I wonder if there's a connection?

Anyway, heading out shortly but as requested...

July 2010: We're nearly done. Just a few more to join the fun!

July 2010: Just days to go. Time for the last few babies to show!

July 2010: The end is nigh... To antenatal we say goodbye!