December 2010 - good-bye flat tummies (as if I had one... ha ha ha)

[Persnickety]

Right, I've done the honours. This is our new thread.

And don't forget the stats thread

She broke her pelvicc bone... Oh.... my... OUCH!

This is baby number 3. DD born 2003 via crash section following failed induction. She was wrapped in the cord and was quite frankly never going to come vaginally alive. It still annoys me that they didn't think to scan when she was two weeks overdue and find out why. It still would have been a section, but we could have skipped all those drugs for induction and strangling her into foetal distress. But, she's fine, I'm fine, I guess I should be thankful.

So, when I was pregnant with DS I thought no f'ing way am I doing that again. Oh and I asked the midwives after DD was born if this could have been seen on a scan before induction and they told me it couldn't have been. I know now that they lied. So I lost all faith in the midwives (which is a broad sweeping stereotype and probably unfair to all the lovely midwives around). But, nonetheless what I wanted was to avoid an emergency section.

So with DS in 2005 at Queen Charlotte I requested a planned section. They were mildly opposed. I presented my case and stood my ground. And they agreed to it.

This time, at my booking, the midwife asked me about my surgical history. When I finished listing an emergency section under general anaesthesia followed by and elective under local she said "So, you'd like another section then?" And I smiled and said "Yes please." So, I think it's inthe bag this time.

To answer your question, yes, you can get a section on the NHS but choosing your hospital and having loads of infomration and really really standing your ground is essential. If you start a thread on this topic I can go talk to you there... and so will a million other people.

Eek, sorry Strix. . DF, welcome to the world of having children. I used to get them whenever we went to XMILs. Should have been a good reason to stay away.

DuelingFanjo - piles normally hurt when you have a poo (sorry if TMI). I've got some atm and they're agony. So glad we can use anusol suppositories!

CherylAnnTweedy - are you not going to pack an emergency bag for in case you have to transfer from home? I'm planning to just in case - my DH is useless at finding his own stuff so expecting him to be able to find and pack everything I'd need in hospital after a transferred birth is just not happening!

PJen - I'd avoid the scary threads! I'm trying to limit how much I read them as I get more nervous. I definitely don't want a section though - they're not the "easy" choice and carry their own risks. I know some people really are tokophobic (phobic of childbirth) though.

I should do really japhrimel, you'll probably all have to nag me to do it closer to the time!

lol

I don't think what I have is piles, maybe just everything backed up a bit

DF, are you taking iron supplements? If so you might want to cut the iron our for say a week and see if that sorts it. Otherwise , of course, you need lots of fiber (either in a supplement or whole meal, fruit, etc) and lots of liquid. If you go for a fibre supplement you want insoluable fibre.

only the iron in my pregnancy vitamin, the Midwife said my Iron levels were 13.5 and than anything under 10 is a worry.
I think I will get some all bran perhaps?

'Lo everyone
Am awed at all the organisation going on.
I don't want to buy anything for the baby yet, same as I didn't want to buy any mat clothes until after 12 week scan. I don't want to jinx it, which is stupid as I think superstitious stuff is irrational drivel..

Despite this I think I will only buy/pick up loaned things for the baby after 26 weeks i.e. when the baby has a fighting chance if born early.

Also I do not have the space and don;t want to start sharing space with stuff when I don;t need to: I want to enjoy my flat being tidy and uncluttered for the last time in years!

So far I have been promised the loan of
a car seat, a Moses basket, a crib nest,(just need to buy mattress)& loads of baby clothes, booties, mitts, hats, gro-things, sleeping bags etc.

Am hoping I therefore won't have to buy much at all apart from nappies.

Went and looked in Mamas and Papas Oxford St today. F*%k me, what a load of over-priced nonsense in there! The maternity clothes were foul and expensive, the baby clothes were stupidly expensive, the prams were bonkers, the nursery faff was ridiculous.

As I don't even know if we will be in the UK once the baby is 3 months old I am trying to keep kit down to a bare minimum. It's the baby I am interested in, not its bloody outfits. I don't see why a baby needs much stuff at all. How can they possibly need toys, for starters? rolls eyes

Miffster, I thought like you that I won't buy anything till third semester and that babies don't need toys but then I saw my cousin's 6 month old, who loves and recognizes a giraf he has. The plastic giraf is ugly and expensive (relatively to what you get) and is called Sofie! Aparantely Sofie is very popular in France (that's where they live)and the kid does funny stuff when he sees Sofie and looks quite happy! But then at the end I agree with you that kids don't need toys. I am sure they will get enough toys as gifts. My flat is tiny too (London life) and I have absolutely no place for even more kid's spoon... Not sure where I will put kids stuff..

erk, just spoke to my MIL who said something about finding DH's christening gown. I didn't even know he hed been Christened. I'm not and won't get mine Christened so might have to break it to her gently some time!

miffster im with you on that feeling!!

This is my 2nd, so we have a car seat / bugaboo and high chair all ready. Oh, and the cot and moses basket.

Went shopping today and bought some maternity jeans in Next (at 19 weeks I deserve decnet clothes that fit!!!!)

Didnt buy any thing for the baby, and wont yet either. Closer to delivery, I will buy some white sleep suits and vests etc, and some muslins, and thats it...

DP and I may go and buy some thing nice (like a teddy) the day of our scan if all is well.

good luck with that df i am dreading seeing the tat things mil buys. she has a heart of gold but my god the woman has no taste!

Sorry i've not been around for a while really struggling with the pregnancy feel ill and tired all the timeand get awful headaches and now I can't even sleep all joys of being pregnant.
I feel so alone atm as my friends and family live miles away have spent the last week at my mums just crying and now my DH has brought me home which doesn't feel like a home but work since I am self employed.
I've used mumsnet for support but feel too much bullying goes on and after I was accused of being pro formula for sticking up for someone who was getting attacked for their comments and had my posts removed I am leaving mumsnet.
I feel like my last line of suppport is gone and don't know what to do but I wish you all the best in your pergnancies and hope you all have lovely beautiful healthy babies in December a lovely Christmas bundle of joy.

I have enjoyed getting to know you all. Goodbye.

Oh Seomum, don't leave
We're all here to support eachother and not to judge other people's choices. Could you stick to just this thread for a while?

I hope you stick around specially as you are finding the pregnancy hard-going. I don't think people mean to bully it's just that mumsnetters are such a vocal bunch about all sorts of things. Hope you do pop back in but if not best of luck to you too for your birth and the rest of your pregnancy.

Seomum - stick around here. I tend to just post on threads I know & ones that are unlikely to kick off. I let MN wind me up too much after one incident of name calling when I was simply putting my opinion across and that upset me far more than I should have let it.

As DF says, we're here for support. Stick around here, especially if you're having a tough time yourself.

Miffster - Yay! Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so much is simply overpriced and ugly. It seems the price goes up in direct relation to the ugliness. But I seem to be in a distinct minority! (I do like the look of some of the icandy's (I think) but way too expensive when you can get something just as good and will last the same amount of time for around £150).

oh seomum thats horrid, you wont be treated like that in this forum - email MNHQ and tell them how you feel.

19 + 1 today - everyday that passes I feel so excited, however, kind of on hold til the 20 week scan, Im assuming others feel a little like that too?

Does any one know if you can request a further scan to pick up a birth defect (that we've had in our family) that only shows itself in the last trimester?

Not going to be sorting any of the stuff out, putting cot up etc until we've moved to our new house (3 weeks time YAY)

hope everyone has a good day x

Please don't go Seomum

Oh Seomum don't get upset and leave us
The last thing of the day I do is to read the posts here from my ipod touch and the first thing in the morning to check if there is any new post... I really feel this forum is helping me as there are like minded people with same pains and worries and am sure it will help you a lot too.. Stick around... Don't let others get in to you... Just hide that thread from yours

Oh no, Seomum. Don't go. Just choose your threads. Talk to us and stay away from the bullies.

The whole breast feeding vs formula topic can be very emotive and has been known to upset many a mumsnetter.

Seomum, do stay. I know what you mean - I have seen some nastiness on MN (quite often around the BF issue) - but never in this thread. Everyone is very supportive and although people will of course have different views on things from time to time, that's the beauty of it - it means you get the benefit of all those experiences and knowledge that might be different from your own, as well as the camaraderie of a group of women in the same boat as you.

Really sorry I haven't posted in ages. I have been reading, just too busy to post.
I'm 16wks today and am definitely feeling some kicking - sometimes little movements, sometimes kicks, sometimes bubbles.
i've been reading all your buggy / equipment advice [shocked] at the amount of kit required! we have started gathering things tentatively though. SIL bought us lovely moses basket and i have bought a bulk lot of newborn clothes from ebay - for, wait for it, 3 pounds.
we will probably try and get most other stuff from ebay or freecycle as money is an issue and i see no reason why a baby would notice the difference!

Yes, seomum - stay on this thread, even if you change your name we still want you to stay!

DF on the christening thing with your MIL - I know its the sort of thing that can be very emotive if its something you feel strongly about either way, and I've seen similar reactions in relation to civil/religious weddings. I'm sure your MIL will respect your decision, but perhaps a good salve for her is to say that you'll let your children decide if they want to be christened when they can make their own decision? I've seen that happen to at least one (very non-religious) family. The son got to 8 and decided that he wanted to be christened totally out of the blue! Obviously its your MIL, but might be a useful thing to respond with if it causes problems!

I can't remember who it was, but on the piles front - I know they're exacerbated by constipation, which is a constant threat in pg. I started suffering at the beginning, but have discovered that snacking on dried fruit (apricots, raisons etc) really really helps. Actually, I notice it even if I miss a day of dried fruit!! Plus, dried fruit tastes so much nicer than all bran, IMO

To be honest as far as I know MIL is not that religious but I think she is a one for a big family occassion. DH is with me on the no christening thing, we would rather wait and let them decide when they are older. I am an Atheist, for want of a better word, in that I was raised with no religious teaching at all until I had to do it at school.

MIL is coming over from abroad in Dec for 3 weeks from my due date and as I predicted has said she would like us (and her other two sons) to have Christmas with her. I have basically told DH that I will let my mum down and do Christmas with the MIL but not if I give birth days before and if we do go it will be for a few hours rather than an overnight stay.

DF - Why not have a humanist naming ceremony? You don't even need to have an official celebrant. Some friends did this with their 1st and it was basically a big party at their house for loads of friends and family. People who hadn't already got to meet the LO met him, the Dad made a speech, people took gifts and everyone had fun.

The BHA have info on naming ceremonies on their website here: www.humanism.org.uk/ceremonies/humanist-namings

We're atheists too (well I prefer the term humanist!) and will be doing something like this.

chloesbaby - I've bought a few things off ebay too! I'm trying to not buy too much, so I can see what I've got and try to stick to the recommended amounts of various bits so I don't go overboard and end up with a million babygros that'll only last a couple of months!

WhatWillSantaBring - I think I'll get DH to get some raisins! Tx for the tip.

To be honest (and I maybe shouldn't be as my brother had one) I think Naming Ceremonies are a bit naff