December 2010 - Time to stop feeling sick. Please

[RaceyLacey]

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Hi there. Need some advice. I have had slight bleeding since Saturday - ranging from pinky-brown mucus to a little bit of red...I went for a scan on Monday and everything was fine. The consultant said it didn't matter where the bleeding was coming from as it wasn't affecting the baby. However it is still going and it is a little more pink this morning. I rang the MW and she said well, can't scan until bleeding stops - could be beginning of MC...etc etc. Now I don't know what to do. Do I believe the consultant or the MW? MW won't try for a heartbeat in case "one day it is there and the next day it isn't". WHAT is going on? I am SO stressed now - and I felt so great after the scan.

How terrible, slightlytired. I think the midwife was terribly unsypathetic and I would find someone else to talk to. Can you ring the consultant? Or maybe get a phone appointment with your GP and ask her/him where you should seek advice in view of the increased bleeding?

I have had the sad experience of a mc, but I have heard a few stories of callous midwives and I must say they piss me off.

Sorry, I ment to say "I have not had the sad experience of a mc..."

Thinking of you, slightly tired. I don't know any medical info but after trawling all these boards in the beginning, surprised to hear how common bleeding in pregnancy is. Often with no problems at all arising from it. Try to relax as much as possible, I would keep harrassing the midwife for another scan.

Good luck

As far as I know, Slightlytired, it's not true to say that you can't scan until the bleeding has finished. If there was a huge amount of bleeding (not like what you're losing) then it might obscure what else there was to see, but you could still have a scan even then, and lots of people do. How pregnant are you? Bleeding really is very common - loads of pregnancies suffer unexplained bleeding and it doesn't appear to affect the baby at all.

The MW does have a point about relying on the reassurance of looking for a heartbeat when you're in very early pregnancy (say before 10 weeks) because MCs are so common at that stage that you could see a heartbeat on a scan and then the next day, something could happen . But if you're upset and think it would help, then she should be on your side and helping you get a scan. She certainly could be nicer about it, anyway! Or did I misunderstand - is she saying she won't look for one with her doppler? She's unlikely to find one before about 14 weeks - doesn't mean it's not there, but they're notoriously unreliable before about then.

IME, callous MWs are far and few between, so you're unlucky in yours. Can you ask to see another one? Is she the only practice midwife, or is she attached to the hospital?

fordypops and velvetcu so very sorry for your losses . I hope you both have some happier news very soon. Take care of yourselves.

Lucypeanut wow, twins - double congratulations! I have a friend from a mum & baby group with twins the same age as DS and they are delightful. It's so lovely to see them interacting with one another.

SlightlyTired that's really unhelpful of your midwife to worry you like that! I'm sure the consultant is right and if the baby was fine on Monday, that's still the case. I can't see how the midwife knows anything more than the consultant. I can see why she might perhaps think it not worthwhile to check for a heartbeat because at this stage finding a hb is unreliable and just because she couldn't find one doesn't mean it's not there, and it might cause you unecessary worry - but she's already done that! Can you try to hang on for a few days then press her for another scan?

I'm working at home today which is great because I can wear comfy clothes. I'm really struggling for work clothes atm. I bought a few basic things before I went back after ML in April but they are all winter type things and I now need some stuff suitable for (a) warm weather and (b) to hide my huge bloated tummy. Can't wait to be able to tell people and not try to disguise it any more.

Hi all! I have avoided these threads so far as stupidly nervous and superstitious but going to be brave! I am due on December 12th so 10 weeks and 4 days today. I lost my son late on in pregnancy 2 years ago and have had many M/C so naturally very nervous but am consultant lead this time, have already had three scans and although vey high risk consultant seems to have a good plan of action - we have a lot of hurdles to get over but just taking it one day at a time. Good luck and congratulations to all X

Thanks Persnickety and Lucypeanut. I have made an appointment with a female GP for this morning as I really want a medical opinion here, rather than a MW trotting out the same old spiel. I know my sister had a lot of bleeding throughout her pregnancy, and everything was fine. And I am trying to take heart from the fact that on Monday I saw a very active little baby in there, kicking and rolling around...

I remember the EPAU midwives were distinctly unhelpful when I rang them re bleeding in my last pregnancy. She was just like, 'yeah, very common, nothing you can do about it, just sit it out and see what happens'. My community mw was equally reluctant to refer me until I told her in that case I was going to go for a private scan for reassurance (by this time I'd had the bleeding for 3 weeks and was getting really stressed).

Just wanted to add my sincere condolences to fordypops and velvetcu

So sorry fordypops and velvetcu, I know you must be feeling devastated right now. Thinking of you both xxxx

Thankyou so much to everyone who has responded. It really is so wonderful to talk to people in similar stages of pregnancy with lots of different experiences. RWD, I'm 11+4 today. Thankfully the MW I spoke to is not my MW (it's her day off today). She was fab the first time this happened at 7 weeks - just said - I can see you're worried - I'll book you a scan right away.

Loubilou09 - welcome, and best wishes! So sorry to hear about your previous experiences. It sounds like you are in good hands at the moment. Sending you positive vibes .

I have now updated the the Due December 2010 Stats Thread

If anyone has anymore edits, please go visit the thread. But, can you PLEASE just add your line of information and not copy the whole list. For example, mine is:

Persnickety; age 40; baby no.3; EDD 25 Dec; Lives in W London; Delivering at Chelsea and Westminster

Thank you!

Hi Persnickety I just noticed you are delivering in Chelsea and Westminister. I am now with UCLH and love it so far but need to move further south by end of this month and UCLH would be too far. My closest option would be the Chealsea and Westminster and I was wondering how it is... Have you had MW or scann appointments there? How are the facilities and is it a new well equiped hospital? Thanks in advance for your advice...

Loubilou09 - welcome, and good luck with your pregnancy all sounds like it is heading in the right direction and you have a good consultant.

Persnickety - i was just about to add my details and realised now I am having twins, I am not officially allowed in the Dec thread as I will be doing a November birth! I'm staying anyway

So I would be Lucypeanut; age 30; babies no.1&2; EDD 16 Nov; lives SW London; Delivering at Queen Charlotte if I can be transferred from West middlesex.

SlightlyTired hope you manage to get a more sympathetic response from your GP. I had a scan during my period (Different I know) and they didn't seem to think the fact I was bleeding was a problem.

Loubilou09 welcome and sorry to hear about your previous losses, I can understand feeling superstitious about joining the thread.

SpangleMaker I spent ages trying to find something to wear today and now I am boiling! Roll on June when I plan to let the cat out of the bag at work.
Off topic, I just sneaked a look at your profile and you and your DH look AMAZING in your wedding photo!

Lucypeanut, you are not getting off that easily. You are still due in December. And I'm sure you are not the only one who won't actually pop in December. Incidentally, DS' identical twin buddies were not born early. And their mum is tiny. If she can carry two babies to full term I dare say anyone can. I don't know if that's good or bad news! Can I please have your actualy due date (i.e. the 40 week date)? I am a pedant for accurate and consistant data (hence "Persnickety").

Also, I had DS at Queen Charlotte 5 years ago (5 years ago yesterday). And I rate them very highly. I though about asking to go back there this time. But, to be honest, travel for midwife/consultant appointments will be a bit easier to C&W so I referred myself there. The aftercare at QC was on par with any other NHS hospital (a bit lacking due to be understaffed) but the medical team for section was fantastic. A really good hospital! But, I think C&W is also good so hopefully I made the right decision.

PJen - I haven't been yet. I can give you my opinion tomorrow, as my booking in appointment is tomorrow.

Oh, and Little B, I've been meaning to say hello. We were on the same antenatal thread last time (2005). I'm sorry, I've changed my name so I can type about babies in disquise without announcing my pregnancy to the whole of MN. I'm not really ready to broadcast my "condition" to the world yet. But, if you CAT me, I'll gladly tell you who I am.

Hello can I join you please? I'm due 30th December and have had two previous mc's in first trimester. I was putting off joining but have been feeling incredibly lonely and isolated with it all. Been to the docs today and he is writing to EPU to request an early scan.

Read up the page and fordypops and velevtcu I'm very sorry for your loss

Of course you can join. You might like to go check out the stats thread.

Welcome

Hello everyone & welcome new people x

SlightlyTired Sorry to hear your MW seems to be so unsupportive. She's probably being so flippant because she thinks there's really nothing to worry about because bleeding is so common at this stage.

Loubilou09 I have a friend who also lost her son very late in her first pregnancy a couple of years ago and I know how utterly devastating that can be. She now has a beautiful daughter and I'm sure you will have a similarly happy experience this time.

I also just want to draw your attentions to a thread I started on the pregnancy forum about donating umbilical cord blood, which can be especially valuable in helping people with cancer.
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/968780-Umbilical-Cord-Blood-Donation

I'm so sorry for your losses fordypops and velvetcu my thoughts are with you. Good luck for the future.

Congratulations and welcome loubylou09 and ClaireDeLoon

I could quite happily have strangled DH this morning, he kept me up most of last night with his constant tossing and turning. Then whenever he stopped moving and I was almost asleep he started snoring! To top it all off the lack of sleep has given me one hell of a headache which I'm hoping won't trigger a migraine like it usually does.

I'm craving chips with salt and chip shop vinegar at the moment, normally I can't stand vinegar but I can't get enough the last few days. It's got to be chip shop vinegar though no other will do.

hi,
was just wondering if I could join in?
I love reading everyones posts but feel a bit odd as I am younger...
I am 19 and due december 2nd, so 12 weeks today
x

Well, GP didn't really know what was going on (on her own admission). Tried to listen to the HB with doppler but couldn't find anything. Am obviously hoping that that is because it is too early to pick it up. Bleeding is slightly heavier now. Am pretty stressed out now. Can't understand how I could see healthy baby on Monday and now be in this position. Another scan next Monday - another weekend of uncertainty and worry. Oh, and parents in law coming down on Saturday - absolute last people I want to see.

I'm sorry for what you're going through SlightlyTired. Can you cancel in laws? Just to try and help you with stress situation?

SlightlyTired Oh that is pants - you poor thing. Did the GP say they were going to do anything else, like refer you to somewhere that can find out what's going on? To be honest it sounds like your suffering from a case of serial medical professional failure!

Welcome aimee0211. I only wish I was your age - your body will spring back to normal in no time! You're certainly not the only younger-un on the thread though. Have a look at the stats thread for ages:
www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/955118-Due-December-2010-Stats-Thread-please-no-chat?msgid=1978 8838

ClaireDeLoon You have the best name ever!