The PESH Deli - The one where Cheggers Goes Pop-Pop!

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BESH BABYWIN STATS

This isn?t a fucking list ? right?

BESH BAYBEES
dontrythisathome, Bay Amaryllis born March 25.

UPDIFFED
Cheggers, she won 2 baybees, due soon
Ponymum, the one with the worst hips, due mid June
CUNextTuesday, takes no shit from the Daily Mail, due June 28
IggyPiggy, The one who loves BUMSEX, due July 20
CurlyCasper, the ginger with the dodgy joints due July 21 (girl)
Skihorse, cradle snatching web geek, due July 22 (boy)
Carrots, organic hippy hunter, due July 25 (boy)
Cosmosis, the one that likes a good ride, due August 22
Pandora, She's got wings, due September 6
skatergrrrl, the one that overtook the rest, September ??
VAG, lives in De Nile, due 19 September
Honeymoo, puppy lover, due November 1
silversky, the biggest farter, due 21 October (first baybee)
okiecokie, self-confessed control freak, due November 6

honey / rots She was being nice and I'm sure she didn't realise how rude it was coming across. The awful thing is she was speaking as though it must be obvious to me (and everyone?) that there is something wrong with my absolutely perfect daughter! Luckily I have no worries, but it was pretty shocking to realise that she thinks this.

rots Your walled garden sounds lovely. We have just had the first barbeque of the year but sadly without such surroundings. Had to make do with baby lambs bleating and a lovely sunset.

Aww pony how awful having lambs bleating around you . We're planning a BBQ this evening, just the two of us. Hope today is as nice as yesterday.

How bizarre of that woman though. Is yours on a very low percentile or something (if you bother to check nowadays)? LC was always around 95% and other than being told I couldn't possibly BF him (despite my mother, for instance, looking after a lady who BF triplets and quite frankly that's just a leetle more milk than even one big baby can drink) noone batted an eyelid so I figure that conversely a child on, say, the 5th percentile is perfectly healthy and "normal" (not liking the word but you know what I mean).

Anyway, moving on, clearly you're just ignoring her silly comments. I know I've said things that came across the wrong way to people about stuff like that but hopefully not as bad as that!!! I said to someone recently who'd just had her second, a boy, and she has an older girl, and I made some trite comment about it being nice having a boy and a girl. I didn't know this lady but she pointed out that just having two live births after trying for 10 years and about 5 rounds of IVF was more than enough and she had no care at all for the sex . It was just one of those things you say, you know, but it made me think that actually, these comments are, as I said, trite, and while I think it IS nice to have one of each, other people's opinions may be quite different.

Just as I'm getting REALLY REALLY sick now of people saying, "oh well, you can try again next year" as I'm gonna have two boys. I may have wobbled myself at the beginning but the only people who know that are me, YOB, my mum and my best friend, and you lot. To everyone else, a boy may have well been perfect for me. I feel most irritated that people assume that I'd prefer this one to be a girl whereas once I got used to the idea - literally within about 24 hours - I was and still remain totally over the moon about another boy and I'm quite in love with this one and wouldn't change him for a girl for anything. Ho hum.

Right, me porridge is ready so I'm going to crack on with the day. Lots to do. Seems like my dog has been going for a dip in the pond, and has put his claws through the liner so that needs fixing. I wonder if it was him who ate all the fish . So nice job for the day is fixing the liner, clearing it out of nasty, manky smelly bottom of pond stuff and preparing it for new fishies. And asking for some child safety gates from Freecycle to stop him getting into that part of the ruins where the pond is.

Oh VAG I just remembered, I wanted to ask you, do you know where I can get hold of a knitting pattern for baby socks? No, I'm not turning all vag-like domestic goddess (although I did make a loaf of bread in the bread maker the other day!) but my MIL wants to knit, knit, knit for baybee and about the only thing I now don't have is socks! Any ideas??? I have to say that I truly aspire to being able to make my own stuff but I just don't have the patience. I really admire those that do...

rots I also think that two of the same flavour is nice, and sometimes I scratch my head as to why the world at large seems to think that you won't be happy until you have at least one of each. (That being said, I'm glad I have a girl, and while MrP loves the foal to bits he is pretty excited about also having a son.)(Although, as the sonographer said, we may actually be having a girl with a willy.)

The comments thing... when the foal was very young and I was just getting used to the unsolicited comments thing, I quickly discovered that mostly people just say the first thing that comes into their head in order to make conversation with the person who has the cute little baby. At first when people said, oh she's big for her age (Monday) / small for her age (Tuesday) I would go running to the HV clinic in panic. But then I realised that what they said didn't mean anything, they just wanted to chat. I have ever since ignored any such comments.

As for what percentile she's on... I don't know and don't actually care. [shock, bad mother emoticon] Our local Health Visitor is frankly an ignorant pro-formula harridan who appears to have had no training since about 1952, so I stopped bothering with all that. I go direct to the GP if anything's troubling me, and she thinks the foal is fab and I'm sure would have said something by now if she thought there were any problems.

She eats well, she's growing all the time, she's the same size as the other kids her age at nursery, she fits the right size clothes for her age group... I think that's good enough for me. At some point you have to be confident in yourself as a parent, or you would simply go mad.

There is a woman in my street who I got to know quite well when on maternity leave and has a daughter similar age to my son. I don't see her all that often anymore since we are both back at work but I bumped into her the other day, and as I peered into her pram to take a peek at her daughter I found myself saying "oh, isn't she big?". It just rolled out and it was meant totally innocently in that the last time I saw her daughter she was 10 mths and now she is about 15 mths. I felt totally terrible as I know she is sensitive about her daughter's size although she really isn' big - she is just 5 mths "bigger" than the 10 mth old I remebered and that was all I meant. I sweated about it for days, contemplated texting her to say I hope I hadn't offended her etc.. (I didn't text her as I just thought that would make things worse). Anyway, what I am blabbering on about it it is true what pony says and that sometimes comments are just made as conversation openers but I realised I need to think before I engage my mouth!!

For you second timers out there, it seems my tummy has expanded at 10 weeks!?!!? I am still in normal jeans my tummy looks huge, especailly at night. Is this normal?

beginning to feel a bit stuck in limbo here. Nothing else matters, so just waiting for baby. it's going to be a long last trimester...

Anyone else feel a bit "down" with it all? I'm desperate to have my girl. BUt lack of sleep and permanent bump aches are really draggin me down now.

Then again, house limbo isn't helping either.

soz for the misery trip. Just feel a bit stuck at the mo.

will go eat more chocolate.

Hope cheggers is ok?

Curly you sound as if you need some random violence, or a three day break at a swanky pampering place! What I prescribe is self indulgence for the last trimester. The waiting is hideous, but believe me after repeatedly getting up in the night for the first few months and then at 7.00am for ever and ever, you will long for a lie in and a bit of "me time". It is so hard not to wish the time away but try and make the most of it. Treat yourself and go out for dinner with your OH occasionally, lie in at the weekend (and if you can not sleep, just read the papers and watch TV), read books and magazines and just enjoy the time.

Believe me, July will be here before you know it. Also, try and programme yourself in to the fact your little one could be late!

Curly what you need is some box set action. The Wire? Seinfeld? Only kidding, it won't be too long now - I wish I didn't have 6 months to wait! I can imagine lack of sleep not very helpful. What's your situation with work again?

Okie what do you mean tummy expanded exactly? I have put so much weight on generally that I think it will be a bleeding miracle to notice any bump showing through. Let's say there's a fair bit of padding at the front and nothing fits anymore. WAAAHHHHHH. Does this mean I will have a fat preggy belly? Yuk.

Thanks both. I've just had a couple of major slaps from reality/another thread too.

Found out relative just undergone major surgery. No idea how well (or not) he is. And an MNer from another thread just had her baby about seven weeks early . I should be very careful what I wish for...

Let's share some virtual gin as a nightcap. We're allowed when it's virtual

You can have it if it's not virtual - it won't do you or the kid any harm whatsoever. Just get it down you

it's my body rather than my mind that's refusing the stuff. All alcohol makes me feel sick - i have tried!

Hope you all had a good weekend - mine was spent in the garden getting all that good vitamin D and spending OH's money on a new patio table and chairs .

Quick question to all - how many of you got scanned before 12 weeks? I've been thinking about not having my scan until week 13 or 14 and it's p*ssing me off. Not only because of the wait and not knowing if all is ok, but I was hoping to tell all my friends at my birthday bash which will be on the 15th May - when I'm around 12 weeks. I'm not sure I want to announce it to all and then (god forbid) something goes wrong at my first NHS scan.

Advice anyone? If I do go for a private scan, when would be the best time to do it?

hello again everyone.

regina I had mine at 9+6 (xmas hols) - I'm not sure I could've waited until 14. I think nearly everyone has had a sneaky private one before the 12 weeks. At 9+6 we were able to make out head, heart, arms & legs.

curly I get it. Most mornings I'm awake from 3-6 and it's hard to get those hours back at any other point in the day.

I had a lovely weekend. Saturday morning we went to the attraction park and I went on a ride which had a sign next to it with a big cross through a preggo. I compared bumps and decided mine wasn't as big as theoretical preggo. So I jumped on. I had a moment of worry when the safety bars came down - then I figured if women were really going to spontaneously miscarry by going on a a ride or two then people's hernias would be popping left, right & centre too (logically). So I decided to enjoy it and it was brilliant - got swung around upside down, did some screaming. Poor Julesbert hahah - he didn't seem to mind at all. We then talk a really long walk through the forest & sand dunes - I say really long, it was probably 2 miles tops but it's the furthest I've walked for months and it fucked my pelvis. Took a few photos so we can say "this is the day your mother was 6 months pregnant and took you on a fairground ride upside down!". Had to sleep in the afternoon due to dodgy hips/spine. Yesterday we took to the beach which was not warm at all but lovely and much easier to walk on, came home last night to a dog free house which is a joy in itself. Am very glad in a way I didn't take Ginger - as predicted, the girl who won't use the brakes galloped off down the beach last seen heading towards The Hague, meanwhile 2 others fell off (different directions)... sounds like a big bunch of stress. 'Course if you don't hack your horse out for a year then take it to an 8 mile long windy beach...

cheggers must have her baybees by now as she was booked in for a sunroof fitting last friday! I can't wait to hear her news¬!

reg I had 2 at 5 +5 and 8 weeks (1st due to spotting) and was well worth it. Saw feint heartbeat
at 1st and decided to have second as it was so early before and wanted to check all growing normally. Which it was... And also v emotional seeing and hearing heartbeat. That said it has been a month now and feeling paranoid about scan on fri (also private as have not got hospital scan through yet!!). But dr was very reassuring and said was 95% likely to have the baby and I keep reminding myself of that...

Go for it anytime after 6 weeks I'd say(and ask for vag scan if v early as better) you won't regret it.

PS regina With regards to weight gain, my midwife asked me at the first appointment how much I weighed, told me not to put on "too much" and hasn't mentioned it since. I got on the scales 2 weeks ago and have put on 22 lbs which I can live with - and quite frankly "fuck it" if I put on more - my baby is very healthy thank you very much! Obviously you want to eat foods filled with nutrients, but if you're going through an "I need cheese & big macs" phase there's not so much you can do about that either. Practice your withering looks.

Morning ladies!

rots - sign up to ravelry.com and you will have access to all manner of free knitting patterns. The site hasn't sent me any emails at all so it's easy to ignore after it's served its usefulness. (and befriend me there too so I look popular!)

I'm another one who speaks without thinking of potential upsets - but then I'm so socially inept if I filtered all my comments I would be totally mute. Er I have nice hair.

Anyway....honey glad FMC went well. Reggie, I had a private scan at around 7 weeks and it was really reassuring.

And I'm quite partial to a two-the-same combination, I'm one of two girls and I don't think we'd be as close if we were one-of-each, so I am quite biased. Though I'll gratefully take what I'm given to be honest, despite my grandmother pleading for a great-grandson

curly TSF & I were saying last night how we feel so eager to get to the next stage that we're forgetting to enjoy the last remnants of peace and quiet of this stage. It's such a limbo feeling.

Sorry - t'was Silver who went to FMC. Am confused.com today due to a cold, please feel free to ignore me.

Hi all,
Monday morning again already - how did that happen?!

Well, the big news is: we have told some people! We were spending the weekend with boyfy's lovely parents, and it seemed too weird not to say anything. We had been holding out, as I can't tell mine 'til the end of the month when I go home and I didn't want such a huge gap between them knowing, but what the hell, we were there and it felt like the right time. They were over the moon. It was just amazing. What's really strange though - I am sure this must have been similar for you - is that other people are totally "reckless" in the planning/anticipating etc. They instantly start saying things like "gosh, Christmas will be quite different this year", when you're still at the stage of saying "let's see how the 10 week scan goes, hmm?". So apart from the urge to temper their enthusiasm, it was a wonderful feeling.

So, there's been lot's going on here too. Ski I hope the work situation has sorted itself a bit: I (totally irrationally) want you to also stay nearby in the Netherlands and not go back to the UK.

Reggie I had a scan at 6+2 and the doc then informed me that we would be meeting up once a month with, I presume, a scan everytime. He does the scans in his office anyway. My next appt is this day week when I will be 10+1. Then I have another one for the nuchal fold at 13+1. Maybe 12 weeks would be a good time? I think that the nuchal check is possible from just before 12 weeks (you could check this) and then you could know in time for your birthday how it's all going.

Okie I also have a weird impression of a kind of bump. I presume this is impossible, and is actually just fat, but it is kind of taut, as opposed to floppy, so I have no idea really. Boyfy felt it at one point and said "gosh what's that?". Also does not seem to be there all the time? Noooo idea....

Pöny (not sure where the dots came from, but I quite like them) I am so glad the CS conversation went as hoped! It sounds like your own reading of the situation was spot on and that has now been confirmed!

Silver - so exciting that the scan went well. I am really couting down to that 12/13 weeks hurdle.

Curly Fingers crossed on the house. It sounds divine - I really don't know are we every going to get our property aspirations sorted before November. I wish we could - would love to have space for baby, visitors etc.

Anyway, sorry for the super long post! I have loads to do here - hence the time-wasting.

Hello everyone! Been up at sister's, catering for her little boy's second birthday. Lovely to see DD and her cousin playing so nicely together. I give it about another year and they'll be slapping each other to get on the trampoline first! Had a little bit more retail therapy - bought some plants for the garden (and bought my sister lots of soft fruit bushes for her birthday present,) bought a dozen duck eggs after the complete and utter excitement that was the chick hatch on Thursday and Friday - way better than TV! and also, ahem, managed to buy a tractor. It's a little lawn tractor with a trailer, but will cut the grass and be fine for yard jobs, and it was a bargain at £400 - what's not to like? The only problem now is that it is 200 miles away. My last foolish purchase - the racehorse - has his vetting today, so fingers crossed for that. Did anyone see the National - the horse that just stood by the start and watched the rest run off? That's why this one was up for sale. I think it's a fab quality to have in a horse that will be required to walk at the back when all the other horses run off when I take DD out hunting on a lead rein next season.

Glad everyone made the best of the weekend weather. Ski, you are clearly mad - was it 6 Flags you went to? There are some serious rides there! We went when my brother used to live in Utrecht. Let us know when you get Ginger back, won't you .

Reggie there is a fab private clinic called Beard Mill Clinic near Abingdon. They will do a scan whenever you want, and will be happy to chat about the various options if you give then a call. We had a scan there at 12 weeks which I reckon will be better than my 20 weeks NHS scan next week. We're going back at 25 weeks to let DD see the baybee, since she is getting excited about it.

Cunty What treatments were they able to do when you were pregnant? OH and I were discussing our upcoming 20 year anniversary, when I will be 29 weeks. We could go on a long weekend abroad, but I think that Europe in the summer with a bump that I have to have a doctor's letter for will be hassle. At our 10 year anniversary we went powerboating round the Exuma Cays, but we're looking for something a bit more sedate this time round. Maybe a bit of pampering is what we need?

To echo VAG, I too, always always always say the "wrong" thing but it's never with any malice because I would not try to hurt anyone.

switty I calmed down a lot over the weekend about work - I was just so angry last week obviously. I only have a very short time left at work before maternity and it seems daft to take redundancy before starting ML... in addition, I'm one of the highest paid in the building - if they really want to pay me that much to sit on my arse more fool them eh? It'll give me more time for the baby and let's see how things are in the new year. I'm going to try and find out where I can work in NL because we don't want to move to one of the big cities in the north but we'd be happy with e.g., Alkmaar. Anyway, you and I must have a euro-meet at some point because meet-ups create cosmic forces which will make more BESH girls get diffed.

curly I want to meet my little man too but am terrified I won't sleep for the first 3 months - how can I possibly sleep when he might sleep "too" deeply?

reg I had scan at 7 weeks after threatened MC (which clearly showed HB) then 12 weeks for nuchal fold. I think if you want nuchal fold you want to be as close to 12 weeks as poss.

ski Sounds wonderful! Glad you had a good time and also good all on not taking Ginger!

Hips thing I'm also getting - quite a lot of pain actually. Swept out another room in the ruins which was full of winter crap (leaves, broken mortar where the frost popped it etc) ready to put out some nice BBQ tables etc, and it was def too much. We were really looking forward to a relaxing BBQ just the two of us last night, but at last minute we remembered our niece and nephew were coming to stay for a few days (easter hols, mum working) so no peace for us! Lovely kids (aged 7 and 8) and they were perfectly behaved and good company, but we were really tired and whereas LC goes to bed at 7, we didn't get these two off until 9pm.

Couldn't do much better - normally their mum lets them get ready for bed at 9 in the holidays which I think is nuts, but then they don't get up until about 9 the next day so I guess it gives her morning peace (father, YOB's brother, died so she's on her own). For us, we get LC to bed at 7pm, then we have all the evening to ourselves and he amuses himself in the mornings until we get up (and we leave his breakfast out too) so it works well!

Done lots more gardening and put in some nice new plants - it's starting to look nice

Oh I got my new Dream Genii pillow thing finally! The main pillow part is lovely and supportive on my back and bump, and I really like it. I'm not sure about the penis it comes with though... I think a normal pillow between the legs is much more comfy, and easier to roll over in bed with. It certainly doesn't stop me lying on my back as I kept waking up on it .

pony / okie yes, you're right about random comments. I wrote a reply yesterday but lost it...!

curls sorry you're feeling down. It's totally normal and I guess we all feel a bit in limbo from time to time, and you have the added problem of the pain you're getting. I've been really wanting this baby to come too, especially when I get painful hips, but then lying in the bath yesterday I remembered that for so many years I've been desperate to be pregnant again, and it's for such a relatively short time, I'm going to really cherish the time when this baby is totally mine (in a Nemo "mine, mine, mine" sort of way ). And, it's easier to garden painfully when pregnant than not painfully with a little baby to amuse .

pandora thanks for the tip - I had been looking around at the weekend for private clinics and I'd put this one on the shortlist so it's reassuring that you mention them too, and they are not far down the road which is even better.

Did any of you tell your midwife that you went for private scans? Reading that most of you had early scans I think it's defo something I'll do now, for my own sanity! Plus it'd be kinda cool to see what's going on in there

ski re the weight - all I can do is go with the flow right? My biggest concern at the moment (and this is how irrational I am at the moment) is that I'll turn up for an abdominal scan and they'll go "ooo, no belly jelly for you, we'll not see nothing through that layer of flab" - I mean what's the worst result from that, they'll have to get the periscope out and venture up the foo. I can cope with that I think...

regina For an early scan it mightly likely be dildocam - they've not had any troubles at all getting through my fat tum to see or hear the baby. In fact jailbait's been able to hear the heartbeat (now) by putting his ear against my tummy and before that by listening through a cardboard tube. As pandora suggests, the equipment at the private clinic is likely to be far superior to what the NHS have on offer anyway...

Regina I am no expert, but I think that the transvaginal scan (for that is its name) is really quite standard in early pregnancy. How far are you now by the way? I am not sure at what point they "switch" but I think the earlier scans are done by the foo route, pretty much as standard. (Disclaimer: I am not in the UK so cannot be sure how things go there...).I have my ten week scan next week and kind of expect it to be internal as well...

It is fine. I certainly coped and if I can anyone can. It is a great feeling to see that heartbeat!

switty I'm 8+2 and feeling every day of it .

ski looks like the place pandora mentioned also do 4D scans - anyone for a home video?

My 7 week one was not via dildocam (though I'd worked myself into a bit of a state in the fear that it would be, and even warned TSF in case it was). Just an abdo scan.