Due Jan 2010 - we're all bump now !

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Hi all - a new thread for all our new chat as teh old one is nearly full. No idea how to do a link though !

Good evening!

mrsjammi - sounds like you need a day off to keep yourself well. Its not worth it. Stay in bed

Sounds like everyone had a relaxing weekend.

Getting chicken pox younger is def better. DD1 had it this year on her 6th bday and dd2 also had it the week before and she was two and although she was covered she was not itchy or bothered by them but dd1 was in alot of discomfort.

My pram? I love it!!! Its called Firstwheels

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See the link above. It was a 2008 model so got it for £199 from Kiddicare. You can face it both ways and it came with a carrycot. It had fantastic reviews so I snatched it up before they all went.

Its really sturdy. Going to buy a lovely cosy sheepskin for the inside. The 2009 models are £299 and come in nicer colours.

I've never seen these in shops before so I was nervous about buying something I have not seen but when I got it I tested it out with my three year old and used it for a day then packed it away again.

I've been getting braxton hicks alot, glad I am getting checked again and maybe another growth scan this week, I'm worried the baby is stuck down there, can that happen? He or she never changed postion. Their head is low down, I can feel rumaging by my pubic line all the time. With other babies their heads were on different side different days but this baby just stays in that positio. I get lots of nudges and kicks and feel him or her stretch but just worried about their position so low. I will have to ask all these questions on Tuesday.

devotion i am sure little omne is fine head down already.
i think i had bh last night as kept getitng sharp pain lower down, could not get comfy as little one was also trying ot get comfy, almost like when i went into labour the first time when ds was moving into position for a good hour!
then after hardly sleeping my dd decided she would scream all night, i usually let her cry herself to sleep but figured she must have a reason as usually sleeps all the way through so got her a bottle and bought her in with me.
then this morning i punctured my tyre on my pram!
had to bring both dogs to work as my fence has blown into next doors garden and her garden is not secure and she would not appreciate my dogs destroying her garden as well as leaving little parcels all over it! i am now waiting for my small dog to poo in the office ot top off my great day so far!
rant over!
hope everyone else is good today. x

aww bethoo that is so not what you need on a monday morning, hopefully that's the weeks disasters in one hit. Btw I finished watching season 4 of BSG, I can't believe that it's finished, I'm a bit depressed now tbh. I hate the finales to programmes I like..or when the Dr. regnerates in Dr who takes me a good few weeks to get used to the new face and settle back down. Ok I'm so sad and pathetic!

Bless my DH seems to be getting an increasing amount of sympathetic pregnancy symptoms...he tells me about stuff then feels guilty 'cause he thinks he should be looking after me more and should deal with the irrationality on his own. I keep telling him that at least it isn't both of us getting them!

I'm booked for sf vaccination on wednesday, so at least I won't have to make the decision again and I no longer have to think about it.

Devotion - that pram was a bargain! Good for you! I dug the carrycot part to our pushchair over the weekend and got all emotional when I remembered putting DS in there!
DS does seem to have escaped lightly. Nearly all the spots are blistered over and although he had a few difficult days - he still slept through every night. So cannot complain. Think the rest will be blistered over by tomorrow so only one more day of quarantine! Yay!

Bethoo - what a start to the week for you! Hope it gets better!

SWH - i felt so relieved once I had had the vaccination! Was one less thing to worry about.

Hope everyone else having good Mondays!

bethoo your last night sounded like mine, minus the DD screaming. First night of properly waking up every few hours - think I am at a stage now where as soon as I go on my side to try to sleep, LO also keeps re-adjusting and last night, neither one of us could find the compromise position that let us both sleep!!

Plus the fact that I ate loads of seafood last night which apparently has a high histamine level so my carpal tunnel was playing up and both arms took it in turns to go numb! Have I really got 8 more weeks of this???

Mama2b5 I am glad you got a lovely restful Saturday. I can't even imagine what it must be like to have that many kids to look after. You must be some kind of superwoman!!

somewhathorrified Well done on having made the decision and booking it in! Still keeping my head stuck in the ground... waiting to make a decision in a few weeks when I have moved. I figured I have enough to worry about between now and then. Let me know how you get on!

i am still unsure whether ot take vaccination but by the time i see mw i will only have 6 weeks to go and so i will see what she advises. there is still alot of scarmongering on mumsnet, some saying not t take the one beginning with p which is hte one i ma being offered then my friend who works in health put up something of fb saying it is all a hype and hte only pregnant women who are high risk are those wiht underlying health problems and/or obesity. so like ohters here i am more or less fingers in ears humming tra la la la la or got my head in the sand!

Bethoo - thats interesting!

I was in a bank queue today when surgery called to say they have their vaccines in and If I want to book in.

I said I do but I only want the Celevpan one (which is the one most people want to have if they can) but she said I can only have the Pandremix. I then said but why do I keep reading bad things about this one and why has other countries and America chose not to give pregnant people and under 18's this one?

She came back on the phone and said the nurse said that Pandremix is the safest option for pregnant women.

I think I am going to just stop reading stuff about the vaccine and make a decision next week to have it or not. The more I read the more I dont want it and then I reminded about the dangers I am putting myself in and think if I weigh it all up, it is worth having it.

ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHH!

I am so glad so many of you are just getting on with it and booking in, I know I will most likely do this I just need to get my ass in gear. As soon as I do it I'm sure I will relax about it all.

I think some of the threads on here are so against it and really scared me when I read them. But most of the people who write these comments are also really against other vaccinations like the mmr etc and I am not so you have to weigh it all up. They are not professionals and they have got their facts from somewhere that may not be 100% fact.

I think when I have the vaccine I will not read any of the threads about it or join discussions and that way I will not feel worried about the decision.

I am so indecisive when pregnant which does not help

hi all - i do believe a 100% its totally up you to get the swine jab! i personally aint doin i think its not been around long enough for me to feel safe that i will not be causing baby or myself harm weather now or down the line! a few weeks ago i decided not to get my daughter the new 15years old jab for cervical cancer, also not enough info about it for us to make the right choice so until We feel ok with it not giving in to the school, advert campaign, press pressure my DC are a true gift and i never had this jab and im ok!
baby movement is constant my gosh i think a party is happening in there! 8 working days left!!!!!!!!!!
hahahah flyingma - not a superwomen only 4 kids in the house and i have a wonderful DH who helps alot im so thankful because some dont get the support whilst pregnant and its a shame we go through so much the DH/DP should help and support and cherish and love us even more whilst carrying their child for 9 months!

Well we have swine flu here also although they are calling it Mexican flu. They are not vacinating anyone, and there is no panic about it. They are taking the wait and see approach - which suits me. I am not saying the approach here is better but it's quite funny that it's the total opposite of the approach in the UK. Also the Netherlands have said if they do vaccinate it will be youg children who are at school where it would spread easily.
I don't envy any of you having to make the decision.
Mil was here for the weekend and kept trying to feed me particularly cookies and ice cream she's great.

Shinybaubles - are you saying in the Netherlands they are not vaccinating pregnant women?

Mama2b5 - we are due the same day and I was worried about going through the worse time of year being so heavily pregnant. I kind of made my decision last night and now you have made me rethink again?!?!

I have no underlying health problems except I have five weeks left working with preschool children. My youngest goes to nursery two days a week and she gets a snotty nose every other month from there, they constantly have runny noses when I collect her. So I know that I will get swine flu being around these little germ bags but the question is whats the risk that I could get serioursly ill?

I just wish they could give me a statistic so I could make a decision about it. They never released health background info in the pregnant women who died. So how can we make a choice based on all the true facts. I know they are looking out for our best interests but how much of it is over reacting???

......Anyway I will say no more on the matter because I am still 50/50 and I know many mums here have already made their decision and from what they tell you it seems like the best choice to make.

I had my check up again to check the growth, at my 28 week app my fundus measured only 23cms. I am 30 weeks tomorrow and today my fundus measured 30 weeks so I am delighted with that. Baby must have just moved up higher.

So much kicking!!!

Hope you are all feeling well.

I feel great just so so tired.... my bloods came back ok so just must be a pregnancy thing.

x

i am a hormonal mess today, things that would not normally bother me have had me in tears today liek dp left me last night as apparantly there are too many men in my life, i am sneaky and apparantly according ot dp still in love wiht my exh. strange since i am not allowed ot even acknowlege male neighbours so heaven forbid how whilst looking after two babies and being pregnant i have managed to sneak around meeting other men. sick of being accused and made to feel like a tramp for past behaviours i can not change, sick of living in guilt for the way i ended my marriage which haunts me anyway. so i am in two minds as to whether i want him back anyway tbh. just angry that he chose 7 weeks before due date to dump me especially as most of my stuff is at his house and have no freezer here and am now what wiht redundancy expected to find a new home befroe christmas!
sorry for rant just bloody fuming and keep shedding tears which is embarrassing as at work!
and just had someone ring for my sofa as i was selling it to move in with dp so if i do sell it i will have no bloody chairs but then it makes it less to move should i get a council house within the next month
sorry ladies!

devotion that is great news, i think sometimes people depend too much on fundal height as it is only a rough estimate. babies lie differetnly so one day you are right for dates and another you are not. i am always 1 or 2 cm smaller than my dates but then i am small and it happens in all my pregs so mw is never concerned.
i look massive and think i am big for dates but am small for dates, i just look bloody huge!

bethoo hope your day gets better today!
devotion my little one has been head down for ages, also with low down movements. Growth scans have shown all ok.

Dp has gone to London for the day for work and dd has no pre-school today so it's me and dd.

Dd woke at 5:30 am with a nightmare and then calmed down and kept chatting on and off until 6:30am gggrrrr. I finally managed to get some sleep and then she woke at 7:30am telling me it was morning. Not happy. We are getting her a gro-clock that shows morning/night for her birthday. It can't come too soon . She usually sleeps well, though.

Today I am waiting for our new bedside cot to come . We have an armsreach which can also be a travelcot/playpen not cheap but as definitely having c-section and will co-sleep seems best option. With dd we had a crib that rocked leant to us: wouldn't recommend them as she could always partly roll over from birth and ended up stuck in the bars.

Have dug out steriliser and breast pump. Timer on steam steriliser not working (it doesn't really owe me anything as was given to us for dd and has been through 4 babies already!) so I am about to see if I can find instructions online as to how long it is supposed to sterilise for!

Bethoo - are you serious? You are sending me a lovely message and you dp left you last night accusing you of still being in love with your ex? You are havily pregnant with two children and nowhere to go?

I am so sorry you are going through this right now, how horrible for you!!! Why do you have to find a new home? Can you not stay where you are?

Why is dp being like this? Has thing being going on a long time, are you pregnant with his first child? Could it be he has just got cold feet and its all too much for him. In which case that is actually quite common and he just needs to talk to you about it. Sounds like he is using "you still fancy your ex" card as an excuse to hide something.

If its worth saving then wait a day or so for both of you to calm down and think about if you really love him abd do want him back. If so then try and meet for a talk and see what his feelings really are. If he suffers with a jealousy problem and you can not even talk to otehr males withour upsetting him then he needs to see its him with the problem not you and it does not matter who he is with it will always mess his relationships up. He needs to go for some councelling.

Of course I could be talking out of my butt here, I dont know the background but I really feel for you and want you to know you can talk to us here about it. Or if you prefer you can send me a message.

Have you got a friend who can come over to you later for a good old vent and shoulder to lean on?

Take care
x

bethoo how many times has your DP done this to you during this pregnancy? Hardly the actions of someone responsible enough to make a good dad. Get your stuff back and if you move then a 'man with a van' is perfectly capable of moving a sofa for you! You don't need this shit atm, focus on yourself and your children's needs.

Regarding the SF vaccine, everyone has to do what's right for them. The problem with the stats that are being thrown around is that a lot of them are from other countries not just the UK. But each country has different vaccine types. I think the best any of us can do is work on the principal of 'can you/your families live with the worst case scenerio' of either having the vaccine or not.

Bethoo I hope things get better for you.

Devotion I am in Belgium and there are currently no plans to vaccinate any one at the moment. My mil is a nurse in the Netherlands and says they may vaccinate young school children in the New Year depending on things etc. I find the Dutch and Belgians to be much more pragmatic about things like this and the UK vaccination program actually makes the news here - it is seen as a bit of an over reaction here. I am not saying it is but the approaches are so different I find it very interesting.
DS is at school and I suppose may catch it but I am quite happy not to have to make a decision about it.
anniemac I am so busy nesting lol.

Morning all. I have a day off work today which I am spending just pottering about as I managed to get myself completely overtired at the weekend, thus turning myself into an exhausted wreck yesterday.

I have had a lovely lie in until I was woken by the postman delivering my birthing ball at 10am and I've hung the washing out and had some breakfast since and that's it.

My mum came up at the weekend and we bought all the baby stuff I have been making lists of but not getting round to buying. DH and I had just been wandering into the relevant shops, looking confused and wandering out again empty handed. It was really useful to have someone with me who had done it before (albeit 30 years ago) to tell me what I needed. And, more to the point, she cleaned my bath out as I can't bend over to reach and DH's attitude is unless a new species of mould is growing in there, it doesn't need doing.

I'm having the swine flu jab on 30 November. I weighed up pros and cons and decided to definitely go for it. I'm so short of breath anyway that the chances of getting pneumonia as a complication are much higher (that's what kills) and that has influenced me towards it.

Bethoo - hope things improve. You do need to make him see that his jealousy is his problem, not yours. Not easy, I know.

Oops, cross post with Anniemac (though hers far more informative).

good advice for bethoo anniemac

thanks ladies for hte support, i feel as though he is mentally tormenting me as he creates situations in his mind as to how i am thinking or how i have behaved in the past. he tells me how i was in my marirage though i never knew him then but according to him in his mind i was a slag who got used by every man i ever went with and no one ever loved me so all past acquantances should no longer be friends wiht me. i had ot remove all attractive male friends from facebook and am not allowed to make any more. i cant have male friends over for a cuppa because i am actually offereing sex! if a man smiles at me (not recently!!!) or says hello i get hounded as to how i know him and if i have shagged him. now if i see men i know i look at the floor so i cant acknowledge them and have a row about it later! but he makes me feel as though i am dirty as my past is so bad what wiht his perfect catholic upbringing (he is irish) i have led a life of shame. i cheated on my husband which i regret and am tormented by it daily, i try to call him to aplogise and ask for his forgiveness but i am so ashamed. i threw away a good man for a tit who did give me two beaustiful cjildren but in turn cheated on me and spent all my life savings what was for our children nand spent his weekends doing drugs. i met dp when i was 27 weeks pregnanat with dd and he virtually moved in and only 6 months after having dd i fell pregnant again and hoped he would see how serious i was in this relationship but he just pushes me and pushes me. if he was to read this now he would say i have twisted it round and i am in the wrong and as ususal i try to make him look like the bastard but i try to keep the peace by doing everything he asks but there is always something else i have to do.
gosh sorry ladies!!!
so now you see that i deserve to be untrustworthy thus justifying his behaviour, sometimes i feel he is my punishment for my past and i have in all honestly changed but he still thinks i am on the prowl for other men!
bet you regret asking me now

bethoo, that is completely out of line of your not so DP. I really hope you can work out what's best for you and your LOs. anniemac is very wise.

I just had "the call" from MW about swine flu jab. I have an appointment today, and can have the jab after if I want it.

I said yes (but am bricking it now) DH has had the SF and I saw how ill it made him, and he is generally fairly healthy. I emailed him at work and he said to definately get it.

I have never "nested"... I am faaaar to lazy. Washing up seems to leave me out of breath, so will leave the tidying to DH (who never does it anyway so it just doesn't get done)

Am I the only one who doesn't get BH? I didn't the last two times either. Feel bad for those of you that do get 'em. Sounds like not much fun at all.

Hi all

Sorry to hear your news bethoo hope you get it sorted out soon, and like others have said maybe dp is just getting cold feet, but that really doesn't help you when you have two little ones and another coming soon. I remember at the beginning your posts were not good but you've seemed really happy for a while. Hopefully dp will see sense. I know its easier said than done but try not to get to stressed for all your sakes. Take care.

devotion my bubes seems to be lying right across my tummy all the time, last mw visit she said it was head down so I'm hoping she is right.

Antenatal tomorrow - mw will test wee for glucose - fingers crossed everything will be ok otherwise I have to have GTT. I'm not convinced it will be okay as I have stayed relatively the same weight all the way through but since about 5 weeks ago I have put on a stone, and I'm not fatter anywhere else just a huge bump.

Ctoafn your pg sounds just like mine, worries and all, spd, liver bloods and low iron. I'll be joining you in the fruit juice aisle along with the movicol lol.

Hope everyone else is ok. check back later.
31+4

bethoo- im totally praying that your situation sorts itself out!im a emotinal wreak at the best of times never mind a DP who has some serious trust issues!!!!!
Do you think the reason he is accusing you is because this is his own behaviour
Men are so strange and i dont understand that he is doing this to you know and adding stress you so dont need now and ever while pregnant with HIS child! sorry it sounds like something i see constanly on the "Jeremy kyle" show in the mornings!
I dont understand his thought process and why he would even consider you to be unfaithful and call you such awful and demeaning names! and your suppose to share abed with this man?
I would not move if he is done let him move!

i have never had that for my DH is so not like that but i can really say i have been and alway will bea strong person and no one should make you feel like CRAP! Hugs and kisses to you!!! let the situation calm down and then talk to someone about it and see if you can get some housing advice you are intitled to council houses you have children!

when i read some threads i dare not complain about my stupid woes! it seems so pointless and trival compared to others really going through some rough times!

Im a prayerful person and believe God only gives us things He know we can handle!

Hug hug hug and kiss, kiss kiss to you and your children - Bethoo