Due Jan 2010 - we're all bump now !

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Hi all - a new thread for all our new chat as teh old one is nearly full. No idea how to do a link though !

Hi all

Hope those of you having scans ect don't worry to much and all is well.

Says me, I have had a horrible week, I just want to cry. As of my previous post decided to have sf jab as I would rather be here than not and any adverse outcomes will be dealt with as and when. Anyhow went to have it on Weds, had a lovely chat with GP who would have given me celvapan but they didn't have any in building and weren't sure when they would be getting it. As I had psyched myself up for it I just said give me the pandemrix. Was a bit worried after and have a sore, swollen arm to boot but all in all feel I have made the right decision for me, dh and 4 other dcs.

Then when I got home a had an irate phonecall from secretary at surgery asking wether GP I saw today discussed my last blood test with me?? errr NO. And that I need it redone urgently, couldn't explain why or if I should be worried. Apparently something wrong with iron levels and liver function test (which I had done because I was itchy). Went to see nurse yesterday am for repeat test, and she couldn't tell me either!! She will get GP to phone me asap to explain. This was 09.30, went back to work rather upset, GP rang at 3pm, urgent my arse!
and just said don't worry all pg ladies levels will be out due to massive strain on organs looking after baby. Felt a bit better but not entirely convinced (he was GP that told me bleeding in early pg was normal - went on the have mc at 8wks)

What with that and glucose in wee, you watch i'll have to be delivered early - some info says 3wks early which will be christmas weekend, but we'll see.

Sorry for the long moan, but dh, bless him doesn't understand and just gets upset and worried about everything.

I will ring GP on monday to make an appointment with sf GP to explain.

On a happier note, I have 4wks left in work cut down to 4day week, and about 70 sleeps till we can cuddle baby.

Also dd2 7yrs swam a whole length without armbands (1st time terrifed of swimming) and dd3 6yrs gave us a lovely dance routine that she'd learnt at her 1st dance class. makes it all worth while don't ya think.

Hello everyone

All is ok

Phew!

Got there at 9.30am then had to wait an hour before I saw my consultant who said the baby was only measuring 23 weeks instead of 28 weeks. She also was cross when I told her about my friends boy jumping on my belly. She said I should of got checked out asap and it does not take much to rupture a placenta. So I was really worried! She told me to wait to see if they could fit me in for a scan so had to wait about another hour and then I had a lovely older woman who was a real pro done a growth scan and talked me through everything. She put my mind at rest instantly and told me my babies femur was measuring 29 weeks, tummy 28 weeks (which also means the placenta is fine as if there was a problem the tummy size shows this), head 27 weeks (small head ) and there was plenty of fluid and that everything looked totally normal and spot on for 28 weeks. She also said NOT to worry about the boy jumping on me and that babies are alot sturdier then we think and protected with all the fluid. Like someone else on here said to me.

She also printed out a fantastic profile shot of baby for me, she was so sweet and I think she could see how worried I was.

I then had to wait to see the consultant again. She said that because I am 5,7 and its my third the baby it is probably just very snug and low down. So this is why my fundus is not measuring 28 weeks. She said she wants to check me again in 2 weeks - not sure why and didnt question as I thought I was about to faint I was so hungry and desperate to get out of there. DD had stolen my fruit from my bag during the long wait.

So relieved now. Need to cut and paste this into a thread I started yesterday. I am such a worrier!!!

x

hello all,

just cos i like it

Am having the SF jab on Tuesday. I'm asthmatic. I think my DH has had it (drs reckon so) and he developed a chest infection after. He is otherwise a really healthy person; hardly ever ill. Me on the other hand ... Anyway also have friends with newborn (well she's about 6weeks now) and dh, dc1&2 have had it. Second child seems also to have chest complications. They're now concerned for baby. I just can't imagine having flu (ANY flu) at this point... have enough other lovely pg niggles to deal with already, plus hoping baby will be abit more immune too - IF i actually manage to breastfeed this time ...

great news devotion!! why do some hcp have to be so cross...hmmm. glad the scan was good though, and happy munching!!

So glad for you devotion...I think after all that you deserve some seriously naughty food!

Good news Devotion!

I restrained myself somewhathorrified and just got a couple of nappies for me for now and a really cute tiny Swaddlebee for a friend who is having her baby a few weeks early, and wants to use washables from birth. Her baby will be quite diddy for size 1 nappies. Seeing her this weekend for her babyshower, going to try and bake a cake in shape of a pregnant bump!!
I'm going to use DS1s old bambinex or muslins with fleece liner from birth, along with 3 small Itti bitti d'lish nappies for best! Then see what shape DC2 is before splashing out on a whole new supply. I got a bumgenius v3 today and already have a new Berry Plush and 2 Teddies to try out. Hoping to use Itti's as so cute, but want to try and wait till can go straight into Mediums, which should last till potty training. Not sure I'll resist though, DS1s bambinex a bit shabby and don't have much other baby shopping to do!
Have nice weekends everyone!

Ooops, tiny nappy a Fuzzi Bunz not a Swaddlebee, its lined with fleece and doesn't need a separate wrap, so should be good for friend in new mummy days I hope!

Goodness what a lot has gone on since I posted on Monday! Glad you are all ok devotion I had growth scan at 28wks last wk too.

Well, dd and I have been quite poorly. Rant alert!

Monday, dp talked to gp about me having bad cough and being pg and asthmatic, she said ok but to contact the surgery if got worse.

Weds we had another gp (not one we normally see) come round as I couldn't keep down fluids even and had a temperature. He said it could be Swine Flu but wouldn't recommend tamiflu/relenza as we had had it for a few days - yes, but we didn't have all the symptoms. He also seemed to know nothing about the vaccine as I hadn't yet been invited in to have it, implying I didn't know what I was talking about . Well, it's not in the surgery yet so that's why I haven't been notified...

Last night dp took me to the emergency dr as although temperature fine I was having trouble breathing. Emergency dr was great and something of a local expert on Swine Flu as on hospital boards etc. He said it was definitely not sf as I would have had flu-like symptoms for longer. He gave me a nebulizer and told me to double inhalers and use steam to relieve as necessary. No prompting he said I absolutely should have the vaccine as I was very high risk and the virus is very dangerous for pg women.

I feel a bit better today, cough more manageable but need to go back if my peak flow goes down. Have horrendous rib/back pain from coughing/vomiting too.

Dd luckily has had just temperature and cold symptoms, no asthma.

Apologies for long me, me post but I needed to get it off my chest!

quirkychick - poor you sorry to hear you have been going through all that. i think if i were you i would definitely get the vaccine! its just not worth risking it.

when my gp offers the jab i think i will take it too.

i hope you are getting lost of tlc and rest!

get well soon x

Hi all- ( breath out) so glad the scan went well Devotion

with time passing quickly i have 2 issues to get sorted - Baby shower date and gift list and my travel system buggy!!!!!!!!
ahhhhhhh HELP!!!! with baby due in Jan when is the right time!

DH - has taken a very strong interest in the buggy and really likes the Quinny Zapp with Maxi Cosi car seat!

Also Im soo i finish work on the 27th!

please help me also with labour ward issue!

When i had my last DC my mum was around as well as my DH,mum passed 8months and now my dear MIL is assuming she will be there! i dont want her there because that was an experience that i only want to share with my mum! which i cant do so with MIL it will feel like im replacing my Mum.
With this being a new hospital im hoping they will only allow one person in so i wont have to tell her that "i don't want her there"!

Now is that bad?

Mama, it's not bad that you don't want your MiL there, after all it's a private moment that you share with those peeps you feel most comfy with! Just out of curiousity, who's looking after your DC during labour...couldn't that be her job?

Maygirl I'm slightly jealous of your growing nappy collection...how sad is that. They are ultimately cute shit catchers, but cute non the less.

Bethoo meant to say thanks for the nipple reassurance earlier, but got side tracked...apologies .

So pleased for you, devotion!

Partyofsix - hope everything sorts itself out - I hate it when people present some worrying news and then can't tell you anything constructive. I've had a different thing in my wee every test (blood, glucose, etc.) but each one seems to sort itself out by the next time - my midwife always says "probably nothing to worry about - it's very common".

Haven't cried at all today, so am feeling slightly more normal (and better about my SF decision - especially since reading a few of you posting about having it too - I thought I was going to be the only one on the list having it). Arm is still quite sore, but haven't had any other side effects, and baby is moving around as much as usual.

FakePlasticTrees LOL @ car seat. Not so funny re the rest of the situation though. I like crumpette's suggestion re the list. Hopefully this goes to people who won't offer you seconds of their old stuff - my colleague warned me of this.

LOL @ FlightofFancy's mum. Bless!

maygirl Snap re the high bump although I have to say everyone at work's commented that mine changes shape from day to day. I seem to have a fidgit of a child in there!

devotion I am glad that it all went well and you are in the all clear!

quirkychick you poor thing I hope it clears up soon!

Re the SF jab, I am putting my head in the sand until I hear from my GP's re coming in. Same tactic as baby shopping - I am more or less done with the gift list but we still have yet to agree on the mainstays and big purchases.

May swing by Mothercare this weekend to see if the Philips sterilizer set is still on offer. Would everyone say that a sterilizer is a must-have even if you are planning on breast-feeding? I got talked out of buying it buy a friend who does not have kids and still now have doubts.

Morning!!

Hope everyone is ok.

Flyingma - I just popped onto answer your question re. the steriliser. I bought the avent microwave sterliser even though I was planning to bfeed. I Bfed DS for 5 1/2 months but from 7 weeks expressed every morning and DH gave the dreamfeed (10pm nightfeed) with the bottle every night. So the steriliser absolutely got used on a daily basis even when bfeeding.
DS got used to the bottle, didnt get any nipple confusion and happily fed from me and my supply was absolutely fine.

HTH

That is a great idea mistletoekisses, my sister did say she thought it important to introduce a bottle in the first few weeks - though she is still bfing at 1 year.
After many of you commenting a few weeks ago about itchy boobs - mine have now started with avengence! Bump is pretty high up still which makes it worse, I just can't wait to get my bra off when I'm done at work! For those who had it, has it gone away yet? Hoping it's just a phase...

So are many of you having a baby shower? And what do you do? It is something I had only first heard of a couple of years ago, but had no idea what it was.

Not finishing quite as early as I hoped at work as the new boss wants me to deliver another programme before I leave but will still leave me 3 1/2 weeks before due date and 2 weeks of only 1 pt job.

Have a great weekend everyone - we have no rain today! And we all know that means a couple of loads of washing

flyingma - not sure about the steriliser TBH. We got one even though I was planning to BF and I think we only used it a handful of times in the end. I ended up BF DS til he was 13 months old and the only time it was used was to sterilise nipple shields when I first started BF. That said I tried to feed expressed breast milk to DS and he hated the bottle and I was rubbish at expressing. I would have used it more if he had taken to the bottle.
I have heard that if you have a decent ie hot dishwasher and your baby is not premamture then you can just wash bottles etc in that and they will be sterile. Don't know if its true though - anyone else know ?

Thanks SomewhatH!
The thing is shes so pushy and i know looking after the children is not an issue because have bro's and sis for that job!

Also the last time i went into a hospital with her was when my mum died so it brings back loads of horrible memories! ahhhhhhhhhhh how do i let her down gently without her feeling i pushing her away!!!!!

Baby shower - before or after christmas is my issue!
Fraochsmum-
this is when all your friends give you gifts for the baby or for yourself you can give out wishlists or you can tell them a theme to which they then buy things! like the changing mat, bath set, hat and glove set, babygrows etc
your friends usually offer to host it to allow you to relax and enjoy! you also can play games like guest the sex, the weight, choose a name, guess the time! etc

OOh that sounds quite nice! Mind you, with a wedding and a 3-week programme to organise, I might bow out!
However, my stepmum gave me an extremely nice cheque last night "just for you to pamper yourself", so think I will see if I can get a relaxing massage today and get rid of the shoulder knot [serene emoticon]

Thanks everyone for nice messages. I am feeling a lot better today, but very washed out. Dp has been a star and is going to take dd out- she's loads better and has cabin fever!

I had already decided to have the sf vaccine after reading loads on the sf thread but I know it's not in the surgery yet. Emergency dr (who used to be at our surgery and is quite senior/expert) said I could have seasonal flu and sf at the same time. I had awful flu/chest infection last year so am tempted.

Mama2b5 can't you tell MIL that you are only allowed one birth partner ie your dh on the delivery suite so she can't come? Ours only allows one. As it's a new hospital/new rules or...due to swine flu they are restricting numbers on delivery suite. We have quite strict rules about visitors on post-natal ward too. Partners fine, but other visitors only pms. Perhaps get your dh to tell her...

I'm not having a baby shower, really not my thing (which is good as I only have 2 female friends here, both partners to my male friends). However I would think going for one before christmas would be best so that those that bring pressies haven't had their bank statements through from xmas. I don't know that baby stuff really goes into the Jan sales. Plus it also covers you if you're early.

I wasn't going to bother with a sterilizer until it became obvious that one will be needed. Will start off with sterilizing stuff...or boil water, see how that goes as intending to BF with DH doing occassional feed.

sorry if I'm missing any 'd's on this post my key seems to be tempramental.

Hello all, hope you are enjoying the weekend.

I'm getting my swine flu jab next Saturday. It's just arrived at the surgery.

I think some of the media are going a bit silly with the anti jab thing. There is nothing in it which wouldn't be given in other jabs to pregnant women.

Thanks for the support in the "MIL drama" i just started a thread to see how others cope with the MIL dramas - shes a lovely person dont get me wrong very supportive we get on so well! but well dont think i want to share my labour with her!

Good evening all!

Mama2b5 - I dont blame you not wanting your mil there. I really get on well with my mil but you dont need an audience. You just want your partner present. The less people the better. It is your special experience for you both.

I like someones suggestion about saying the hospital are only allowing one birth partner. That should do the trick. My mum assumed she would be present at dd1's birth. It took me months to pluck up the courage to tell her I only wanted dh there. She was totally fine with it and if she was upset she did not show it.

Maybe you should also speak to someone about preparing yourself for going into hospital to give birth. I know you probably have negative feelings attached to hospitals since you lost your mum so it might be worth having some councelling to remove negative feelings about hospitals or turn it around to positive iykwim. x

RE: Sterilisers, it depends on how long you plan to breastfeed. With dd1 I originally planned about 6 mths because that was when I planned to go back to work 2 days a week so 6 weeks in I started trying to give her expressed milk in a bottle and that summer of 2003 was a real scorcher so I use to try her with a few sips of water during the day. When it came around to going back to work I could not go because I had not kept up the expressed bottles and so she refused the bottle. So there were a couple of months of real stress and anxiety before I managed to get her to take a bottle. I stopped bf at 8 mths so used my steriliser all the time, you should continue using a steriliser and boiled water for drinking up to 1 year old. Then after that they can have tap water but you must sterilise bottles of they are drinking milk from them. Dd1 loved her bottle of milk and gave up years later!

DD2 was bf until 10 mths and I was working for myself so did not need to give her expressed milk. After 10 mths she refused all milk so I had to give her lots of calcium rich foods and milky cereals. She loved her dummy so I actually only used her steriliser for them so did not really need it 2nd time.

So I suggest you dont need one straight away and if you could borrow one then that is even better so then you can decide on buying a one if you fing you will be using it alot. 2nd time too I never used a breast pump and 1st time around it was my best friend

I never really understood dream feeds. 1 - you have to express to make it anyway so you are doing extra work. 2 - at that time you can be lying in bed anyway and stick them on then back in their cot. I just always found it was easier and less hassle to do all the feeds myself. Expressing and sterilising was extra work... I sound so lazy! Thats why bf suits me so much

I am really looking forward to bf again. My favourite feeds are the night time ones where I lie on my side in bed with dimmed lights and feed baby watching them grow heavy and sleepy with a belly full of milk x

quirkychick - great to hear you are feeling alot better. Your DP sounds lovely.

RE: Babyshowers, I had one with baby 2 but will not have one this time. Kind of feel a bit greedy doing it again But I think all mums should def have one baby shower and get showered with gifts. My last one I had about 12 friends, my sister sent out invites and arranged a lovely spread. We planned lots of silly and fun games and lots of alcohol (not for me). I got some great gifts and felt a bit embarassed at my friends generosity. I think that is why i dont want to do it again. But it was lovely.

Plus its great to hear about more people getting the jab, makes me feel like I am planning to do the right thing too.

Hope everyone is having a great weekend. x

Glad you're feeling better quirkychick

Well my bump-cake for friend's baby shower is much more glam then my bump!! I used a pudding basin for bump, with choc cake and madeira cup-cake boobs, covered with a swishy icing dress! Hope it survives the 2hr trip on the motorway!!
We usually play a guess the bump size game, where you guess how much string you think is required, also guess babies weight, sex, name, eye colour, DOB, and write all down with a wish/word of advice and a drawing of the mum to be for her to take home! And eat lots of course! We all live miles apart, so it's a good excuse to get together. We wonder how we'll ever meet up soon, once we've all finished having weddings and babies! I want all the attention to be on friend as is her first and mates already did a lovely one for me with DS.

I exclusively breastfed DS but did use a microwave sterilizer a fair bit for my expressing stuff. Didn't often give him a bottle of ebm before I went back to work, but expressed milk to mix with weaning foods at 6 months. I expressed at work, but just used Milton to sterilise stuff there, quieter and more discrete than steam sterilising, just chuck the stuff in and leave it! A friend passed her sterilizer onto me so never had to buy one, I'm looking out for an electric steam one on Freecycle right now, as I found my avent pump got brittle and cracked over time in the microwave one, plus my electric lactaline pump can't be microwave sterilised, just used milton last time, but prefer a steam one for home.

Feeling a bit sick, with a v hyper baby- ate a bit too much leftover icing!!